0 INFO-VAX	Wed, 12 Jan 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 24      Contents:, Alphaserver console environment variable ???0 Re: Alphaserver console environment variable ??? An interesting little SSD ! Re: Basic virtual memory question 0 Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK config new/flush in CSWS 1.3% Re: DECwindows window manager problem # Re: Energy Star and VAxstation 3100 ' Re: Hardware Today: HPC Server Snapshot ' Re: Hardware Today: HPC Server Snapshot ' Re: Hardware Today: HPC Server Snapshot P Re: HEADS UP - Brand new white paper re: OpenVMS on Integrity Server - Total Cos Re: HP and SAP Re: IA64 versus Power  Re: IA64 versus Power  Re: IA64 versus Power  Re: IA64 versus Power . Re: List of DEC boards to be auctioned on Ebay. Re: List of DEC boards to be auctioned on Ebay mod_python for Apache 1.3 . Re: Multiple-site Fibre Channel configurations. Re: Multiple-site Fibre Channel configurations Re: Need Word-11 Re: Need Word-111 Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist CD Media... Should I buy it?  Pipe command to VMS 5.5-2  Re: Pipe command to VMS 5.5-2  Re: Sun shocka - take 9  Virtual Alpha on OpenVMS AXP  Re: Virtual Alpha on OpenVMS AXP  Re: Virtual Alpha on OpenVMS AXP  Re: Virtual Alpha on OpenVMS AXP  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 11:15:31 -06004 From: kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow)5 Subject: Alphaserver console environment variable ??? 3 Message-ID: <R379jSemdNej@eisner.encompasserve.org>   L I can't remember the name of the Alphaserver console environment variable toH change the display ont he front of the system form "Alphaserver 4100" toI "Bob was here". I thought it had "console" or "display" or something like H that at least as part of it. It's not pre-defined, so a "SHOW *" doesn't give me a clue.    Any one remember what it is?  1 	Bob Kaplow	NAR # 18L	TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" & 		>>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<K Kaplow Klips & Baffle:	http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf L     www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/    www.nira-rocketry.org    www.nar.org  K "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, except F to encourage attendance in Christian churches; or prohibiting the freeG exercise thereof, except to require prayer in schools; or abridging the K freedom of speech, except for those questioning the Bush administration; or J of the press, except that not owned by Rupert Murdoch; or the right of theK people peaceably to assemble, except those protesting pre-emptive wars; and L to petition the government for a redress of grievance, except those we don't" like." -former U.S. Sen. Gary Hart   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:12:04 -0500 < From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>9 Subject: Re: Alphaserver console environment variable ??? , Message-ID: <34l7jmF4ajnloU1@individual.net>   Bob Kaplow wrote: B > I can't remember the name of the Alphaserver console environment@ > variable to change the display ont he front of the system formE > "Alphaserver 4100" to "Bob was here". I thought it had "console" or C > "display" or something like that at least as part of it. It's not 4 > pre-defined, so a "SHOW *" doesn't give me a clue. >  > Any one remember what it is? >...  : IIRC it was OPC_TEXT or OPCTEXT? But I wouldn't bet on it.   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:00:28 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> " Subject: An interesting little SSD, Message-ID: <GOWdnbISRpEfpnjcRVn-qQ@igs.net>  G Could something like this work on an Integrity server with VMS, perhaps 6 something similar in concept if not this exact device?     Manufacturer) http://www.acceleratedlogic.com/index.htm    http://www.hyperos2002.com/ . (more info ATA-100 version - scroll to bottom)  3 http://www.hyperos2002.com/07042003/img/HD2zoom.gif 
 (large image)    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 09:05:04 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org* Subject: Re: Basic virtual memory question3 Message-ID: <AOZchiDVpU1j@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <ThFDd.183344$8G4.9066@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>, Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com> writes: E > The size of page file quota has a limit in physical space. I don't  G > remember the exact size at this second.  Virtual page count has been   > made obsolete. > K > If Working sets grow larger than page file quota, the process will crash.  > This is common in sorts.  2 You are confusing virtual memory with working set.  E It is virtual memory usage that is [roughly] constrained by page file  quota.   	John Briggs   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:21:58 +0000 E From: Tim ffrench-Lynch <tim-DOT-ffrench-HYPHEN-lynch@baesystems.com> 9 Subject: Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK . Message-ID: <41E4FA46.1ABEFDD0@baesystems.com>   John Laird wrote: E > I have one on my desk - the SCSI and 10Mb Ethernet capabilities are K > built-in.  You can add a suitable DE500 100Mb card for better networking, B > but I don't think the machine supports other SCSI options.  It's3 > fast-narrow, I think.  (But not all that fast...)   = Indeed, SCSI on motherboard, ethernet on a small daughtercard F connected via a ribbon cable to a larger daughtercard plugged into theE mainboard. Both built in and not transferable to new a new system :-(    Tim    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 10:52:51 -0800! From: jy@dymaxion.ca (June Young) % Subject: config new/flush in CSWS 1.3 = Message-ID: <d1160002.0501121052.4d0ddb04@posting.google.com>   F I am running CSWS1.3 on OpenVMS7.3-2. config new/flush works fine withF mod_ssl turned off. But when I turn on mod_ssl and restart the server,E once I request a simple page with http (not https yet) then do config 9 new or flush, the server dies with memory dump showing in  apache$$server.log.   - Is this a known problem? Any patch available?   
 June Young   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 05:53:44 -0800 From: martinkirby12@yahoo.co.uk . Subject: Re: DECwindows window manager problemB Message-ID: <1105538024.236151.72100@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   JF Mezei wrote: " > martinkirby12@yahoo.co.uk wrote:F > > If the new process has been created but the old one hasn't exitted itG > > must have got hung up during the exit. What state is the DECW$MWMEX  > > process in?  >  > D > It is in LEF mode, with no image being executed, and with one file opened:  >  > VUE$SUBPROCESS_INIT.COM  ! > F > (Remember that if the MWM window manager is started from the session	 manager).  > F > A running MWM, as started with the session managers "Window Manager" menuF > option runs VUE$LIBRARY:VIE$MWM.COM and when that exits, it probably	 goes back 3 > to the session manager for re-use of the process.  >  > (On VAX, of course).  ? I see. When I tested it I had DECW$MWM set to run as a detached < process. I changed it to the sub-process and it worked fine.  @ Is it possible that the definition of DECW$USER_DEFAULTS in yourE LOGIN.COM is only being set for INTERACTIVE jobs - or are you using a D DECW$LOGIN.COM? Otherwise, I am out of ideas why it works for me but not for you.   Martin Kirby   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:56:28 GMT * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>, Subject: Re: Energy Star and VAxstation 31002 Message-ID: <gxdFd.5650$a%6.4691@news.cpqcorp.net>  ; The VAXstation graphics do not have the logic to remove the 1 sync signals that trigger one of the sleep modes.   : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message< news:1105483793.fec1f293fac5856f73a549a0c1894274@teranews...K > I have a vaxstation 3100-30. I managed to build a vaxstation to VGA cable  to* > hookup to a NEC LCD display. Works fine. > I > However, the "sleep" mode is really just a black image being displayed,  with) > the monitor remaining fully powered up.  > D > Does VGA have input signals to cause the monitor to go into energy	 efficient I > sleep mode ? Is there a lead in the VAXstation 3100's monitor port that  could @ > be used to turn the montor on and off its energy saving mode ? > C > Or is this just too "legacy" to have such energy saving feature ?    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 07:33:55 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 0 Subject: Re: Hardware Today: HPC Server Snapshot3 Message-ID: <vdN7JgeBqQE3@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <1105489135.370330.5170@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, susan_skonetski@hotmail.com writes:  > H > Was it Mark Twain who said that there were three kinds of statistics - > lies, lies and Damn Lies?   @    IIRC:  three kinds of lies:  lies, damn lies, and statistics.  H    But keep up the good work.  We can always tell when you're out of the
    office.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:58:19 -0000 * From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>0 Subject: Re: Hardware Today: HPC Server Snapshot2 Message-ID: <cs3adr$ag3$1@blackmamba.itd.rl.ac.uk>  . <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> wrote in message; news:1105489135.370330.5170@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...   H > Was it Mark Twain who said that there were three kinds of statistics - > lies, lies and Damn Lies?   H A tricky question: Twain himself attributed the quotation to the BritishF PM Benjamin Disraeli but there is no primary source for this. He might/ have misremembered, or just invented the quote.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:10:16 +0100 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>0 Subject: Re: Hardware Today: HPC Server SnapshotB Message-ID: <41e52fc8$0$23113$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:  ? > In article <0FSEd.9830$hQ6.2089313@twister.southeast.rr.com>, ; > 	"Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com> writes:  > = >>"Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message  / >>news:iHCDxEENH439@eisner.encompasserve.org...  >>G >>>In article <34i2bdF48vk52U1@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill   >>>Gunshannon) writes: >>> B >>>>In article <T1JEd.17535$dt3.1162451@twister.southeast.rr.com>,< >>>>"Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com> writes: >>> K >>>>>Remember to visit this article a couple of times.  We need to maximize  >>>>>visitor count.  >>>>K >>>>Which is why no one with half a brain takes those statistics seriously.  >>> I >>>That is not an issue.  I am sure Ken only plans to present the figures  >>>to advertising executives.  >> >>L >>True.  The visitor count on my site is used for advertisers.  I certainly % >>need visitor count to sell banners.  >  > K > That doesn't disprove what I said. It merely shows your advertisers don't  > have half a brain. >  > M >>I would like to see people originally get to the article using OpenVMS.org  N >>then go back directly to ServerWatch later in the day to read it again.  Of I >>course they can feel free to use OpenVMS.org to get back if they wish.  O >>Regardless, ServerWatch needs to see the interest in the article via visitor   >>count. >  >   I > Why not just write a program (something akin to SETI@Home) that fetches G > these articles and then send it out to everybody you know.  Lets see, F > create a mailbox with a special name.  Create a program to read thatF > mailbox.  Then everytime a new article shows up al Ken would need toH > do would be send mail to all these mail accounts causing them to fetchI > the article and discard it.  :-)  If your going to stuff the ballot box 0 > you ought to at least do a good job of it. :-) >  > bill >   I Actually, I have heard some hackers are starting to rent the services of  D   Zombie PC's they have compromised in the Internet to Spammers and I others. Ballot Stuffing/Web Statistics Skewing would also be a potential  E business case for these Hackers, allowing for instance businesses to  J influence the decisions of competitors which rely on their web statistics.  F This is similar to the speculation (heard already in the 1980's) that > hackers would be hired to produce Virus' to cause competitors H applications to seem poorly programmed, buggy and instable. Either this F is happening without anyone noticing; or it's unnecessary, since most G competitors are already more than capable at producing buggy, unstable  H software; or probably closer to the truth, the most successful software H platforms are so buggy and instable that customers have been trained to G have low expectations. That what the customer has not yet experienced,   can't be missed.  I Then by definition, OpenVMS customers have innately higher standards and  9 are more sophisticated than those of other platforms. :-)   H And, you probably thought I wouldn't get this posting back on-topic. :-)   Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:28:00 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> Y Subject: Re: HEADS UP - Brand new white paper re: OpenVMS on Integrity Server - Total Cos ' Message-ID: <41E56C30.7000301@MMaz.com>    Skonetski, Susan wrote:   G >This is an excellent white paper, "Improving Availability and lowering I >TCO with HP Integrity Servers and OpenVMS" please notice the box on page H >4 which is quoted in the message below. HP OpenVMS on Integrity servers+ >is 59-84% less expensive than SUN and IBM!  >  >    > ? How does the TCO of VMS/Itanium vs. VMS/Alpha compare, however?    Regards,   Barry    --    < Barry Treahy, Jr                     E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com< Midwest Microwave, Inc.                  Phone: 480/314-1320< Vice President & CIO                      FAX:  480/661-7028  I                        ... but it's a DRY HEAT!                              ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:35:47 +0100 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> Subject: Re: HP and SAP B Message-ID: <41e527b4$0$17049$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>   Jan van Mastbergen wrote:   < > "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message> > news:1105466886.5a6aaddce3cce78e9c7c6aa1680b88e2@teranews... >  >>John Smith wrote:  >>K >>>I was flipping through a magazine this moning and came across an ad from  >  > SAP  > J >>>which was extolling the benefits of the SAP application has provided to >  > HP > " >>>in their recent SAP conversion. >>C >>Funny that you went to the "if SAP ran on VMS". To me, my initial  >  > reactions  > I >>was: considering that SAP costed HP a lot of money in lost sales, it is K >>interesting that SAP would dare advertise HP as a customer since they are  >  > not  > 1 >>exactly a success story for SAP implementation.  >  > G > That is not so strange. Most SAP implementations are long and painful 
 > excercises. L > Rather than limitations in the software, the key question is 'How to eat a > dinosaur?'> > One bite at a time, of course or you'll have an indigestion.H > Btw and even more OT, here are some SAP nicknames that crossed my path > recently:  > Sorge, Aerger und Probleme8    (translated from German: Worry, Trouble and Problems) > Sanduhranzeigeprogramm7    (translated from German: sand clock display program)  > Software aus Polen1    (translated from German: software from Poland)  >  > Any more?  Jan van Mastbergen  >   F Officially, SAP  is an acronym for "Systeme, Anwendungen, Produkte in G der Datenverarbeitung", which means "Systems - Applications - Products   in data processing".3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_Aktiengesellschaft   H Perhaps a definition of sap less-known by readers who's native language  isn't English...  0   a sap is a weak or gullible person, or a dupe."   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sap    2 Just to get this posting somewhat back on topic...F I once spoke to the project leader responsible for porting SAP R/3 to D OpenVMS at CeBit. The port was done very quickly and smoothly in, I B believe, about 3 or 4 months (about 1995 or 1996 I believe, maybe D someone here remembers more or better). The porting was done by DEC E personnel. However, SAP refused to allow the port be commercialized.  F Over the years I have heard various rumors concerning why SAP decided  this...   D 1) SAP didn't want the extra expense to build up a cadre of OpenVMS  Version support specialists.  H 2) The OpenVMS Version was/would-be running too stable, thus creating a F Version of SAP with low after purchase support and consulting revenue.  : 3) HP paid SAP to keep the OpenVMS Version off the market.  B Although, I haven't heard of anyone doing this, I wonder what (if C anything) prevents one from using Oracle Classic on OpenVMS as the  E Database back-end for SAP? Probably only because SAP doesn't support  " this as a certified configuration?  = By the Way, there are many alternatives to SAP for OpenVMS... D http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/msg/1a12ebf21aec4653   Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:53:52 GMT 1 From: Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com>  Subject: Re: IA64 versus Power1 Message-ID: <4SaFd.5624$PQ6.154@news.cpqcorp.net>    JF Mezei wrote: ( > IA64 is worse off than Alpha ever was.  	 Not true.   I Intel makes (and promotes) IA64. Although DEC did a dog-and-pony show in  H the early '90s to try to get Intel to adopt Alpha, that attempt failed. I In contrast, HP was successful in getting Intel to not only adopt but to   co-develop Itanium.   B Despite DEC's efforts, Alpha remained tied to a specific computer B manufacturer. Itanium is now independent of any specific computer 
 manufacturer.   D Alpha lost Windows support. [PowerPC lost Windows support, too.] In G contrast, Microsoft continues to sell Windows [2003 Server] on Itanium.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:27:09 GMT   From: CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> Subject: Re: IA64 versus Power* Message-ID: <41E54FDE.3020205@prodigy.net>   Keith Parris wrote:  > JF Mezei wrote:  > ) >> IA64 is worse off than Alpha ever was.  >  >  > Not true.  > K > Intel makes (and promotes) IA64. Although DEC did a dog-and-pony show in  J > the early '90s to try to get Intel to adopt Alpha, that attempt failed. K > In contrast, HP was successful in getting Intel to not only adopt but to   > co-develop Itanium.  > D > Despite DEC's efforts, Alpha remained tied to a specific computer D > manufacturer. Itanium is now independent of any specific computer  > manufacturer.   @ What other chip manufacturer can one turn to as a second source? > F > Alpha lost Windows support. [PowerPC lost Windows support, too.] In I > contrast, Microsoft continues to sell Windows [2003 Server] on Itanium.      --  D The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt toC minimize spam.  Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 11:24:08 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: IA64 versus Power3 Message-ID: <cIN14$pEAV0D@eisner.encompasserve.org>   M In article <41E54FDE.3020205@prodigy.net>, CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> writes:  > Keith Parris wrote:  >> JF Mezei wrote: >>  * >>> IA64 is worse off than Alpha ever was. >>   >>   >> Not true. >>  L >> Intel makes (and promotes) IA64. Although DEC did a dog-and-pony show in K >> the early '90s to try to get Intel to adopt Alpha, that attempt failed.  L >> In contrast, HP was successful in getting Intel to not only adopt but to  >> co-develop Itanium. >>  E >> Despite DEC's efforts, Alpha remained tied to a specific computer  E >> manufacturer. Itanium is now independent of any specific computer   >> manufacturer. > B > What other chip manufacturer can one turn to as a second source?  " Keith said "computer", not "chip".   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Jan 2005 17:41:26 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: IA64 versus Power, Message-ID: <34l5q6F4cdlq6U1@individual.net>  3 In article <cIN14$pEAV0D@eisner.encompasserve.org>, 0 	Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:O > In article <41E54FDE.3020205@prodigy.net>, CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> writes:  >> Keith Parris wrote: >>> JF Mezei wrote:  >>> + >>>> IA64 is worse off than Alpha ever was.  >>>  >>> 
 >>> Not true.  >>> M >>> Intel makes (and promotes) IA64. Although DEC did a dog-and-pony show in  L >>> the early '90s to try to get Intel to adopt Alpha, that attempt failed. M >>> In contrast, HP was successful in getting Intel to not only adopt but to   >>> co-develop Itanium.  >>> F >>> Despite DEC's efforts, Alpha remained tied to a specific computer F >>> manufacturer. Itanium is now independent of any specific computer  >>> manufacturer.  >>  C >> What other chip manufacturer can one turn to as a second source?  > $ > Keith said "computer", not "chip".  A In that case, it was/is no more true of Alpha than it is of IA64.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:38:45 GMT 1 From: Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> 7 Subject: Re: List of DEC boards to be auctioned on Ebay 2 Message-ID: <VDaFd.5620$CQ6.2634@news.cpqcorp.net>    VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:9 > I got it... here's your DUMP... (sans the hexadecimal):   . This may be a bit more readable than the dump: --- 4 Digital Equipment Corporation parts to be auctioned.7 Highlighted items have gone up for auction as of 1-6-05  Ebay seller:  KURTM2E Please email me at kurtm22@netscape.net with your choice of items you > would like to see put up for auction sooner rather than later. List as of 1-11-20051 DEC #   Qty DEC Number/description; Barcode or SN + W984A    1  Extender Board    (1) on 1-6-05  W987A    1  Quad Extender Board  W9040    1  Extender Board* W9512    1  Wire wrap module 5012352C 503B, M8063    1  KXT11-A 5014484D-P2 509B 3569349/ M8063BA  1  KXT11-A 5014484D-P2 226A AB44006178 0 M8044BB  1  32K 18bit mos memory 5013128DP1 943C8 M8044DB  1  32K 18bit mos memory 5013128DP1 129D 09884DB5 M8044DF  1  32K 18bit mos memory 5013128DP1 832B 1156 : M8044DE  1  32K 18bit mos memory 5013128DP1 049D M005103060 VT10     1  Expansion Backplane 5013383B 5413384@ BE3-0       2/4 MB mem option 5016801-01-D2 L6  NI70301131 A1 BH9 M7651    1  DRV11-WA       REV B 2J-5056A-00 422A TQ01829 9 M7941    1  Parallel Line Unit 5011573DP1 638J AG63703442 1 M3104    1  DHV11 5015588701 B1 720 D1 AG719C0284 = M8029    1  RXV21 RX02 CONTROLLER 5013080D-P3 217H AB2160VI69 * M7676    1  5016277-01-A1 446B1 SG172144270 M7555    1  RQDX3 5016674 01C1 635 D1 SG631B6811) M7504    1  5016028-01 C1 531D  2 AS14122 B M0843    1  SLU (Serial line unit?) 5013216F1 P2 936 L1 AG933FLN72> M8192    1  KDJ11-A Processor 5015394-01 B1 *00  48418 2525623= A8000    1  Data Acquisition Module EP074 Rev. E  132794-A082 4           1  VT125 Paddle Board 5014274E  AB44506A25K ADV11-SA / A1008-PA 1 Data Acquisition Module 30-25269-01/03 MLD0032 233753 J ADV11-SA / A026-PA 1 Data Acquisition Module 30-18689-02 M_90400083 2866198 M8639    1  Rdrx disk controller 5015649-02 A1 M8639-YB  SG526A4116/126FS152-9 0 BUA T1010AA 1 Cpu? 5016150-01 B1 BX09 NI54300078 M8189    1  KDF11-B 5014313A; M8190    1  KDJ11-B CPU 5016017-01-C1 51 37143 BC SG7299631 ?           1  LR01 54-20826 JO5 5020825-01-A2 5420826 GA13503570 7           1  KA810-AA 5016138-01 C1 L10 0AB1 NI54600216 = M7546    1  TK50 CONTROLLER 5016268-01-D1 632 F1 EN49808  05A 2 M7270    1  LSI-11 CPU 5013004E 938H  K AB925503344 M7551 AP 1  Q22 MOS MEM 5017547-01-D1-P2  HK631147803 M8186    1  KDF11 CPU 5013326D-P4 319 D0 AB31706R35 5 M7554-PA 1  KDJ11-D CPU 5016760-01-C1 A3X3 AG63602664    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:52:04 -0600 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>7 Subject: Re: List of DEC boards to be auctioned on Ebay D Message-ID: <craigberry-99002C.08520412012005@news.isp.giganews.com>  B In article <1105478247.b0f6641c507f66a08b948bae8df3c5d7@teranews>,/  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:    > "K. Marden" wrote:4 > > Please follow this link to an Excel spreadsheet. >  > 8 > How can I view an excell spreadsheet on a VMS system ?  3 $ perl  dumpspread.pl sys$login:dec-parts-list1.xls $ FILE  :sys$login:dec-parts-list1.xls COUNT :3 AUTHOR:Kurt M. Marden 4 Digital equipment corporation parts to be auctioned.7 Highlighted items have gone up for auction as of 1-6-05  Ebay seller:  KURTM2F Please email me at kurtm22ATnetscape.net with your choice of items you> would like to see put up for auction sooner rather than later. List as of 1-11-2005D         Dec number:     Qty available:  Dec Number/descr:       Dec : Number/descr:       Dec Number/descr:       Barcode or SN:G         W984A   1       Extender Board                          (1) on   1-6-05+         W987A   1       Quad Extender Board &         W9040   1       Extender BoardD         W9512   1       Wire wrap module        5012352C        503B?         M8063   1       KXT11-A 5014484D-P2     509B    3569349 B         M8063BA 1       KXT11-A 5014484D-P2     226A    AB44006178D         M8044BB 1       32K 18bit mos memory    5013128DP1      943CH         M8044DB 1       32K 18bit mos memory    5013128DP1      129D     09884DB H         M8044DF 1       32K 18bit mos memory    5013128DP1      832B     1156H         M8044DE 1       32K 18bit mos memory    5013128DP1      049D    	 M00510306 G         VT10    1       Expansion Backplane     5013383B        5413384 P         BE3-0           2/4 MB mem option       5016801-01-D2 L6                 NI70301131 A1 BHH         M7651   1       DRV11-WA       REV B    2J-5056A-00     422A     TQ01829 H         M7941   1       Parallel Line Unit      5011573DP1      638J    
 AG63703442B         M3104   1       DHV11   5015588701 B1   720 D1  AG719C0284H         M8029   1       RXV21 RX02 CONTROLLER   5013080D-P3     217H    
 AB2160VI69B         M7676   1               5016277-01-A1   446B1   SG17214427B         M7555   1       RQDX3   5016674 01C1    635 D1  SG631B6811?         M7504   1               5016028-01 C1   531D  2 AS14122 H         M0843   1       SLU (Serial line unit?) 5013216F1 P2    936 L1  
 AG933FLN72E         M8192   1       KDJ11-A Processor       5015394-01 B1   *00    48418      2525623H         A8000   1       Data Acquisition Module EP074 Rev. E             132794-A082 H                 1       VT125 Paddle Board      5014274E                
 AB44506A25@         ADV11-SA / A1008-PA     1       Data Acquisition Module  30-25269-01/03  MLD0032 233753@         ADV11-SA / A026-PA      1       Data Acquisition Module & 30-18689-02     M_90400083      286619P         M8639   1       Rdrx disk controller    5015649-02 A1   M8639-YB         SG526A4116/126FS152-9 @         BUA T1010AA     1       Cpu?    5016150-01 B1   BX09    
 NI54300078(         M8189   1       KDF11-B 5014313AH         M8190   1       KDJ11-B CPU     5016017-01-C1   51 37143 BC     	 SG7299631 H                 1       LR01 54-20826 JO5       5020825-01-A2   5420826 
 GA13503570H                 1       KA810-AA        5016138-01 C1 L10       0AB1    
 NI54600216I         M7546   1       TK50 CONTROLLER 5016268-01-D1   632 F1  EN49808    05A @         M7270   1       LSI-11 CPU      5013004E        938H  K 
 AB92550334P         M7551 AP        1       Q22 MOS MEM     5017547-01-D1-P2                
 HK63114780@         M8186   1       KDF11 CPU       5013326D-P4     319 D0  
 AB31706R35H         M7554-PA        1       KDJ11-D CPU     5016760-01-C1   A3X3    
 AG63602664       And here's the program:    $ type dumpspread.pl use strict;  use Spreadsheet::ParseExcel;  ) my $oExcel = new Spreadsheet::ParseExcel;   % my $oBook = $oExcel->Parse($ARGV[0]); ' print "FILE  :", $oBook->{File} , "\n"; - print "COUNT :", $oBook->{SheetCount} , "\n"; ) print "AUTHOR:", $oBook->{Author} , "\n"; " my $oWkS = $oBook->{Worksheet}[0];
 my($iR, $iC);  for(my $iR = $oWkS->{MinRow} ;D                 defined $oWkS->{MaxRow} && $iR <= $oWkS->{MaxRow} ;  $iR++) {    for(my $iC = $oWkS->{MinCol} ;>                             defined $oWkS->{MaxCol} && $iC <=  $oWkS->{MaxCol} ; $iC++) {(     my $oWkC = $oWkS->{Cells}[$iR][$iC];(     print $oWkC->Value . "\t" if($oWkC);   } 
   print "\n";  }  __END;    F This assumes a simple case of one worksheet -- you might need another % loop if you have multiple worksheets.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:56:44 GMT . From: "Jerry Alan Braga" <jabraga@flanagan.ca>" Subject: mod_python for Apache 1.3, Message-ID: <wxdFd.85006$dv1.72971@edtnps89>  M Does anyone have an build mod_python module around.  I have installed latest  L vms python build and would like to use it with apache.  But when I download I the mod_python kit from the apache web site for version 1.3 I get errors  A about missing .h files like "http_connection.h", "util_filter.h".   I I downloaded the entire apache source kit from the HP web site and these   files are not in the kit   thanks in advance    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:33:12 GMT 1 From: Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> 7 Subject: Re: Multiple-site Fibre Channel configurations 1 Message-ID: <YqbFd.5626$LW6.697@news.cpqcorp.net>    Ed Wilts wrote:   I > In the SET DEVICE/SITE online help, there is a restriction that this is 6 > ignored for multi-site fibre channel configurations.  I No, what the documentation is trying to say is that from inside the box,  F there's no way for Volume Shadowing to tell which Fibre Channel disks G are local and which are remote, since they all look the same to it. So  G unless you take a bit of extra trouble to tell VMS which are local and  F which are remote (i.e. which site the disks are at and which site the H hosts are at), Volume Shadowing must simply treat all the Fibre Channel H disks the same (which may be the desired result for multi-site clusters ) with insignificant inter-site distances).   D You may find the $SHOW SHADOW DSAnnn: command output to be helpful. @ Here's a sample of its output from a 7.3-2 system (but not in a  multi-site cluster):  . _DSA320: SITE_DATA3 - Shadowing Level 1 In Use7    Virtual Unit SCB Status: 0401 - normal,write logging 3    Local Virtual Unit Status: 00000010 - Local Read   9    Total Devices         2       VU_UCB          81C26FC0 9    Source Members        2       SCB LBN         021E8C26 9    Act Copy Target       0       Generation      00A3DC15 9    Act Merge Target      0        Number         AB0E1707 9    Last Read Index       0       VU Site Value          0 9    Master Mbr Index      0       VU Timeout Value    3600 9    Copy Hotblocks        0       Copy Collisions        0 9    SCP Merge Repair Cnt  0       APP Merge Repair Cnt   0   .    Device $10$DUA970             Master Member*      Index 0 Status  000000A0    src,valid      Ext. Member Status    00 '      Read Cost             501   Site 0 .      Member Timeout        120   UCB  81A0AA40      Device $10$DUA971*      Index 1 Status  000000A0    src,valid      Ext. Member Status    00 '      Read Cost             501   Site 0 .      Member Timeout        120   UCB  81A0BE80    Of particular interest here are:  I "VU Site Value" - the site this particular VMS host system is located at  I   (this may vary on different VMS systems, if they're at different sites)   D "Site" - the site the disk is at (this would be the same on all VMS C systems for a given disk; different disks may be a different sites)   H "Read Cost" - the relative cost to read from this disk. If a disk is at H a different Site than the VMS host system, then Shadowing sets the Read G Cost higher for that disk than for a disk which is at the same Site as  D the host. VMS adds the local queue length to the Read Cost for each D shadowset member and reads from the member with the lowest combined H value. This tends to direct the reads to local member disks (unless the I load on the disk and thus the queue length gets extremely high, in which  ? case VMS will start directing some reads to the remote member).    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 11:13:49 -0500/ From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) 7 Subject: Re: Multiple-site Fibre Channel configurations - Message-ID: <GwDPmwZ9AozZ@cuebid.zko.dec.com>t  % Ed Wilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org> writes:b > F > Are you saying that if I set the sysgen parameter for the host site,I > and do a set shadow/site=n $1$DGAnnn that the shadow driver will prefer  > reads from the local member?   Yes.  E > BTW, the help for SHADOW_SITE_ID in SYSGEN is incorrect.  It statess= > that this is a dynamic parameter when it isn't (VMS 7.3-2).d  I Yeah, sorry.  I *think* this has been fixed in a remedial kit for V7.3-2.e   --    M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.comd   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:35:02 +0100 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> Subject: Re: Need Word-11 B Message-ID: <41e51977$0$17049$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>   > N > Poking around their site, it looks like they're out of the Word-11 business.  G DPD's old Word-11 page can be found in the Internet Archive (otherwise e known as the Wayback Machine).  Z http://web.archive.org/web/20031219191924/http://www.goldfax.co.uk/GoldFax_VMS/word-11.asp   Cheers!A   Keith Cayembergh   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:44:38 -0500e From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: Need Word-11-Q Message-ID: <OFA32736E7.29F3294F-ON85256F87.004B1C2F-85256F87.004BB118@metso.com>a  F winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)  wrote on 01/11/2005 11:52:30 PM:  ? > In article <Ne1Fd.14044$by5.2359@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>,e: > "Anthony E. Scandora, Jr." <AEScandora2@acm.org> writes:J > >I've been presented with a load of valuable documentation written on an oldu3 > >VAX in Word-11 and a serious request to read it.  > >aH > >Google can't find Data Processing Design.  I found them on DECUServe, butlK > >their 800 number is disconnected, and their 714 number is a modem or faxt  5 > >machine.  Might that mean they're out of business?l >KK > No information on whether they're in business, but DPD.COM is still alive. andpE > redirects to a page about GOLD-FAX, which is one of their products.r	 Accordinga' > to http://www.goldfax.com/contact.aspr >gD >  ----------------------------------------------------------------- >nB > Or, for immediate service, please feel free to call us directly: >b > Corporate Headquarters > sales@dpd.com  > Phone: +1 714 695 1000 > Fax: +1 714 695 1010 >e > DPD International, Inc.e > 17310 Red Hill Ave > Suite 200f > Irvine , CA 92614yD >  ----------------------------------------------------------------- > D > Poking around their site, it looks like they're out of the Word-11	 business.U >  >. >r > >t? > >Does anyone know how to translate Word-11 documents to Word,2 WordPerfect,0 > >RTF, DECwrite, TeX, runoff, or anything else? >oF > They used to have a VAX-only Word-11->MSWord translator, but I never	 found outjG > whether it worked or not, and apparently it wasn't popular enough forn them toe > port to Alpha. >e  G Actually it is W11toWP. Some may remember that WP was once available onm VAXen.K Like all abandoned tools, it works well enough for uninteresting documents,  butmJ as soon as you do interesting formating or indexes or Table-of-Contents it isH not quite there (They left it at V1.0).  Nevertheless, it may be of use. TheaK idea was to port to WP.  I have ftp'd files - after conversion - to WindowsrA and made sense of them in MSWord, which translates the WP format.r  K > If you're trying to get mostly text out of the thing, you can use Word-110 toJ > print to disk as text (using DT filename), and then do whatever you want toI > with the file.  (Including feeding it through ASCtoHTML and making HTML  pages A > that you could probably then import into Word or something.)  It > wouldn't expectd? > this process to preserve figures or fancy formatting, though.t > J > Or you can make a Postscript file and turn it into a PDF of your docs, I
 > suppose. >wK > We're still running Word-11 because we haven't come up with a good way to-H > get our scientific papers using Greek characters, etc, out of it in anA > automatic way.  But we haven't been under support for 5+ years.A >h	 > -- Alann   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 07:36:44 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) : Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist CD Media... Should I buy it?3 Message-ID: <T$lo8Zh4qpzd@eisner.encompasserve.org>u  b In article <5a1b0f1f.0501111744.72f93ec8@posting.google.com>, imyaman@gmail.com (vergence) writes:C > At last I bought a second-hand alpha station 255. I'd like to tryn7 > OSF1/Digital Unix/Tru64(hobby) or OpenVMS(challenge).y > A > I visited http://www.openvmshobbyist.com. and learned I can getg > OpenVMS for free.-D > BTW, Should I buy OpenVMS Hobbyist CD Media? Can I download it via > internet?t  F    If you think running OpenVMS is a challenge, buy the CD, follow theI    cookbook style installation instructions, and find out how easy it is.o  F    This software is not generally available or download, but if you'reG    using the hobbyist license you can get it from anywhere you can finda    it.   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 06:29:37 -0800- From: contracer11@uol.com.br (Shiva MahaDeva) " Subject: Pipe command to VMS 5.5-2= Message-ID: <ddf392ea.0501120629.6af1294a@posting.google.com>   P IS there any application or procedure to enable Pipe commands in VAX/VMS 5.5-2 ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:41:59 +0100-B From: Michiel Erens <I.dont.want.spam@this.mailaddress.is.invalid>& Subject: Re: Pipe command to VMS 5.5-2# Message-ID: <41e55359$1@news.nb.nu>0   Shiva MahaDeva wrote:oR > IS there any application or procedure to enable Pipe commands in VAX/VMS 5.5-2 ?  8 ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/adv_pipe.zip   -- t ME Posted by news://news.nb.num   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 00:52:26 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)c  Subject: Re: Sun shocka - take 93 Message-ID: <dnzbrtDw7piK@eisner.encompasserve.org>-  R In article <QuidnTK1LcpUrn3cRVn-3Q@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: > Rob Young wrote: > F >> They were an 18 Billion dollar company fiscal year ended June 2001. > L > Which was at the end of Y2K conversion sales bulge and the early stages ofM > the .bomb session - which both inflated revenues and began to eat at servert/ > sales for *all* major *server* manufacturers.  >   6 	Nice theory, but no evidence.  Here is a reality that? 	is easily verifiable.  While Sun was tanking, IBM was climbingd 	in the server space.S   	Here are a few key points...   ] http://news.com.com/IBM+extends+lead+in+server+market/2100-1010_3-5465301.html?tag=st.ref.gooe  N Sales of servers worldwide increased 5.5 percent to $11.5 billion in the thirdK quarter of 2004 compared with the year-earlier quarter, according to marketrL researcher IDC. IBM's sales grew faster, though, with revenue increasing 6.3E percent to $3.4 billion, giving Big Blue 31.7 percent of the market. o  N No. 2 HP grew slower than the market, increasing sales from $3 billion to $3.1N billion. Dell and Sun were essentially tied for third place, with Sun at $1.18J billion and Dell at $1.17 billion--but Dell's sales increased 14.1 percent+ compared with Sun's 0.1 percent, IDC said. -  N The overall market growth has been under way for six consecutive quarters, butO only recently has it become strong, IDC analyst Vernon Turner said. InformationgO technology spending now includes more new projects rather than just maintainingv the status quo, he said.     ---g  + 	Six consecutive quarters of server growth.J  + http://nwc.serverpipeline.com/news/18200734n  M IBM, the leader in the worldwide server market in terms of revenue, increasedaL sales by more than 10 percent last year [2003], while Sun Microsystems Inc. K saw a more than 15 percent decline, a market research firm said Wednesday. l  M IBM increased revenue to $14.8 billion from $13.4 billion in 2002, the latesteI figures from Gartner Inc. showed. Sun, on the other hand, dropped to $5.5n billion from $6.4 billion. e   ---h  B 	So no matter how you splice it, Sun has been declining in server < 	revenue for quite some time even as IBM in the same period  	increased revenue.o   > 5 >> Today they are a 11 Billion (plus) dollar company.- > N > It's funny in a way but Sun's decline, in part, came to be precisely becauseM > Sun was so successful at selling their servers to most of the .emerging compN > companies. The only problem was that when the .com's became .bombs there wasK > a huge influx of basically new equipment in the liqudation market at firerJ > sale prices. How could Sun, or indeed just about anyone sell new serversL > into a market glutted with almost new gear? All the major vendors were hit > by this same phenomenon. >   @ 	Not at all.  IBM and Dell are two very good counter-examples.  < 	You will see a slight server revenue decline for IBM in oneC 	quarter, but go back and look at the last 12 quarters (3 years).  cC 	IBM , Dell growing, HP pretty flat and Sun shrinking dramatically.c? 	How else to explain how Sun went from 18 billion in revenue toc@ 	11 billion?  They have more than doubled their service revenuesC 	in the last year or two.  But alas, they are too heavily dependente
 	on hardware.s   >  >>  There are a lotm? >> of ways you can dress up and talk up a company and Scotty istB >> an absolute master.  But reality sets in, stock takes a tumble,
 >> etc., etc.e > M > Just like hiding your company's computing sales weakness behind a veneer of-# > toner and printer ink cartridges.0 >   B 	That's funny.  Last I checked HP was a 77 billion dollar company.@ 	Poke fun at HP all you want... Sun is a wanna-be in comparison.   				Robn   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 12 Jan 05 13:54:06 +100 From: rok@nuk.uni-lj.sit% Subject: Virtual Alpha on OpenVMS AXPm$ Message-ID: <41e52c04@NUK.Uni-Lj.Si>  ;  Emulation of an Alpha server running OpenVMS thread didn'tnA answer the interesting question whether there is "virtual Alpha" > running on OpenVMS AXP.2
  Is there?   Regards,  D Rok Vidmar                       Internet:  rok.vidmar@nuk.uni-lj.si; National and University Library  Phone:     +386 1 421 5461F; Turjaska 1, SI-1000 Ljubljana    Fax:       +386 1 421 5464m Slovenia   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:18:54 -0500u2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>) Subject: Re: Virtual Alpha on OpenVMS AXP - Message-ID: <41E4F98E.4584.81123FA@localhost>a  1 On 12 Jan 2005 at 13:54, rok@nuk.uni-lj.si wrote:vG > Emulation of an Alpha server running OpenVMS thread didn't answer therB > interesting question whether there is "virtual Alpha" running on > OpenVMS AXP. Is there? I  : No, but there is a "virtual VAX" available on OpenVMS AXP.  
 --Stan Quayle> Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363g3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USAa0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 09:52:06 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)s) Subject: Re: Virtual Alpha on OpenVMS AXPw3 Message-ID: <JdEjlGlHm82Y@eisner.encompasserve.org>c  > In article <41e52c04@NUK.Uni-Lj.Si>, rok@nuk.uni-lj.si writes:= >  Emulation of an Alpha server running OpenVMS thread didn't C > answer the interesting question whether there is "virtual Alpha" u > running on OpenVMS AXP.o  F In general, the Alpha architecture is not "self-virtualizing" the way,- for instance, the IBM 390 instruction set is.o   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Jan 2005 12:12:28 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)m) Subject: Re: Virtual Alpha on OpenVMS AXP 3 Message-ID: <$WLNrPSRPYIX@eisner.encompasserve.org>r  e In article <41E55BE5.7090701@Flying-Disk.com>, Alan Frisbie <Usenet02_REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> writes:s  A > Thus, I was terribly disappointed when the VAX came out withouteA > this capability.   It seemed to me to be an obvious feature and.D > I never understood why DEC didn't include it.   What, if anything,F > is it about the VAX architecture that precluded "self-virtualizing"?   Yes.  F It _might_ be the lack of an ability to next implementations of kernelC mode support, but I know there is a specific instruction capabilityt! experts look for that is missing.t   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.024 ************************ul software H platforms are so buggy and instable that customers have been trained to G have low expectations. That what the customer has not yet experienced,   can't be missed.  I Then by definition, OpenVMS customd 24 percent following
stronger sales and cost-cutting.</P>
<P>   The firm posted a net profit of 10.83 billion rupees (225.6 million
dollars) and sales rose 13.5 percent to 156.00 billion rupees from the same
quarter a year earlier.</P>
<P>   Reliance's share price rose 3.5 percent or 9.55 rupees to 277.60 in
afternoon trade on the <NaviLink ID='15:1'>Bombay</NaviLink> <NaviLink ID='11:1'>Stock Exchange</NaviLink>.</P>
<P>   "Prima facie the results are excellent as the company is now sitting on a
good cash flow. It was felt that the company's expansion plans in
telecommunications may hit the cash generation of the group," said a dealer
with a local brokerage.</P>
<P>   Reliance said its net profit for the nine months to December rose 24.7
percent to 30.03 billion rupees and sales rose 8.4 percent to 473.82 billion
rupees.</P>
<P>   "We are pleased with Reliance's strong financial performance, in an
environment marked by continued uncertainties in the global economic scenario
and heightened volatility in our major feedstock costs," said vice chairman
Anil Ambani.</P>
<P>   He credited a focus on productivity, cost-cutting and global
competitiveness for the performance.</P>
<P>   "Our future growth will be driven by our investments in oil and gas
exploration and production, retail marketing of petroleum products, power and
communications," Ambani added.</P>
<P>   Reliance last year announced one of <NaviLink ID='12:1,3:3,9:4,7:5,5:9,2:2,14:8,10:6,13:7,11:10'>India's</NaviLink> largest gas discoveries of over
seven trillion cubic feet in the Krishna-Godavari basin off the east coast of
the country. The company is the country's largest private-sector player in oil
exploration and production.</P>
<P>   It said production of oil, gas and petrochemicals in the nine months to
December was 8.9 million tonnes, up from 8.6 million in the corresponding
period the year before.</P>
<P>   The company said sales volumes rose three percent and prices were up five
percent.</P>
<P>   The domestic demand for petroleum products grew 1.4 percent in the first
nine months, against a drop of 0.1 percent in the same period in 2001.</P>
<P>   The figures came during "extreme price volatility" due to tensions in the
<NaviLink ID='22:1'>Middle East</NaviLink> and <NaviLink ID='1:2,4:1'>Venezuela</NaviLink>, Ambani said.</P>
<P>   jds/sct/bro</P>
<P><NaviLink ID='12:1,3:3,9:4,7:5,5:9,2:2,14:8,10:6,13:7,11:10'>India</NaviLink>-Reliance</P>
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