0 INFO-VAX	Fri, 14 Jan 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 28      Contents:0 Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK0 Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK0 Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK0 Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK' Heads Up - VAX 750, 785, 8550 Available + RE: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600) + Re: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600) + Re: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600) + Re: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600) + Re: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600) . Re: List of DEC boards to be auctioned on Ebay Re: Mass mailing from Gorham Re: Mass mailing from Gorham Re: Mass mailing from Gorham Re: Mass mailing from Gorham RE: Mass mailing from Gorham Re: Microvax II questions  Re: Microvax II questions  Re: Microvax II questions , Re: OpenVMS 8.2 on Itanium... any emulators?, Re: OpenVMS 8.2 on Itanium... any emulators?K Reject-Unbacktranslatable-IP v. "Received: from unknown.hostname (x.x.x.x)" 6 Saveset File Format - ie extensions to vmsbackup 4.1.1: Re: Saveset File Format - ie extensions to vmsbackup 4.1.1: Re: Saveset File Format - ie extensions to vmsbackup 4.1.1 Setting colors Simple Printing Problem  Re: Simple Printing Problem $ [FreeVMS] Announce new release 0.1.2P Re: [reply] New 4000/60 hobbyist -- tcpip startup fails with "error defining itn  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:24:18 +0000 E From: Tim ffrench-Lynch <tim-DOT-ffrench-HYPHEN-lynch@baesystems.com> 9 Subject: Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK . Message-ID: <41E79DD2.54F5F6A1@baesystems.com>   Tim ffrench-Lynch wrote:E > Is anyone interested in parts from an Alphastation 200 4/166 in the  > UK?, the system has :-7 >   64MB memory (probably - it's too late to check now)  >   no graphics card >   no hard disk >   poor PSU with failing fan 
 >   CD-ROM
 >   Floppy
 >   Processor " >   All boards and internal wiring3 >   No screen, keyboard, mouse or external cabling.   F I've had a request for the CDROM - sadly the rest of the computer will, get taken to the dump sometime next week :-(   Tim    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 02:43:57 -0800" From: chris_doran@postmaster.co.uk9 Subject: Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK C Message-ID: <1105699437.766100.237280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Tim ffrench-Lynch wrote:E > Is anyone interested in parts from an Alphastation 200 4/166 in the  > UK?,  A How is the floppy interfaced? Any chance I could use it in my DEC 3 3000/600? Which presumably means it has to be SCSI?    Chris    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:06:27 +0000 E From: Tim ffrench-Lynch <tim-DOT-ffrench-HYPHEN-lynch@baesystems.com> 9 Subject: Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK . Message-ID: <41E7A7B3.A12AB0C6@baesystems.com>  # chris_doran@postmaster.co.uk wrote:  >  > Tim ffrench-Lynch wrote:G > > Is anyone interested in parts from an Alphastation 200 4/166 in the  > > UK?, > C > How is the floppy interfaced? Any chance I could use it in my DEC 5 > 3000/600? Which presumably means it has to be SCSI?   D It's not on the main SCSI bus, I'll take a look but I imagine it's a" regular PC style floppy connector.   Tim    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:09:43 -0500 ' From: Stuart Fuller <stufuller@usa.net> 9 Subject: Re: Breaking AlphaStation 200 4/166 for parts UK . Message-ID: <7e0lb2-8q.ln1@dadsys2.fuller.com>   Tim ffrench-Lynch wrote:  % > chris_doran@postmaster.co.uk wrote:  >>   >> Tim ffrench-Lynch wrote: H >> > Is anyone interested in parts from an Alphastation 200 4/166 in the	 >> > UK?,  >>  D >> How is the floppy interfaced? Any chance I could use it in my DEC6 >> 3000/600? Which presumably means it has to be SCSI? > F > It's not on the main SCSI bus, I'll take a look but I imagine it's a$ > regular PC style floppy connector. >  > Tim   L Not only a regular PC style connector, but a regular PC style floppy drive. % Sorry, it won't work on the 3000/600.    --             Stu    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:49:12 -0800 2 From: "Lee Courtney" <lcourtney@NOSPAM-mvista.com>0 Subject: Heads Up - VAX 750, 785, 8550 Available0 Message-ID: <10ufu0i7hark689@corp.supernews.com>   Hi all,   H For those so inclined there are several VAX's and Digital related items A available in this week's auction at Auction-BDI in San Jose (CA).    Items of interest:  ( SJ-205 1 Unit(s) DIGITAL SERVER 834BA-TE  3 SJ-206 1 Unit(s) CIPHER TAPE DRIVE M990110-00-0100U   ( SJ-207 1 Unit(s) DIGITAL SERVER 34650-XA  3 SJ-208 1 Unit(s) CIPHER TAPE DRIVE M990110-00-0100U   ( SJ-217 1 Unit(s) DIGITAL TAPE DRIVE TA78  ) SJ-228 1 Unit(s) CABINET WITH DISK DRIVES   9 SJ-229 1 Unit(s) DIGITAL CABINET WITH DISK DRIVES VAX8550   9 SJ-230 1 Unit(s) DIGITAL CABINET WITH DISK DRIVES VAX8550    SJ-231 1 Unit(s) EMPTY CABINET  ) SJ-232 1 Unit(s) CABINET WITH DISK DRIVES   ; SJ-233 1 Unit(s) DIGITAL CABINET WITH DISK DRIVES VAX11/785   & SJ-234 1 Unit(s) DIGITAL EMPTY CABINET  ) SJ-281 1 Unit(s) DIGITAL SERVER VAX11/750   3 SJ-283 1 Unit(s) DIGITAL STORAGE CABINET VAX700-610   = SJ-284 5 Unit(s) Mislabelled as SUN JAVA STATIONS 600-5753-01       D See http://www.auctionbdi.com/fullauctionlist.asp for info and pics.   Cheers,    Lee Courtney   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:59:44 -0500 # From: "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov> 4 Subject: RE: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600): Message-ID: <JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDMEEIFPAA.dallen@nist.gov>   > -----Original Message-----/ > From: Jeff Rogers [mailto:Don.Zong@gmail.com] * > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:12 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 2 > Subject: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600) >  > A > The same java program, runs much slower on rx2600 than on ds25.  > # > The program is a simple one like.  > . > for (int i=1; i<1000000000;i++){ int j = i;}   Does:    int i,j;  for(i=1; i<1000000000; i++) j=i;   perform the same?     > > > It took 3 seconds on the alpha box but 80 seconds on rx2600. > E > We have a servlet program which usually takes about half seconds on A > the alpha box to finish but took 35 seconds on the itanium one.  > H > On rx2600 two 1.4G IA64 CPUs, 4G memory openvms8.2 field test version, > jvm 1.4.2-beta 2 > . > On ds25 2G memory, openvms 7.3-1, jvms 1.4.2 > F > Followed the jvm's user guide on performance tips. Don't see any IO, > quota issues on both boxes.  >  > Any thoughts?  >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 06:45:58 -0800! From: kenneth.randell@verizon.net 4 Subject: Re: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600)C Message-ID: <1105713958.298085.184980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    julien courtemanche wrote: > according to me, > G > the field test java version is not a HP fast VM version but a classic  one. > 7 > so, I'm agree for the moment it's very very slow.....  >   E Pardon my lack of JAVA expertise, but here's what I know: There is no F 'fast VM' for Itanium-based JAVA VMS 8.2.  What's going to be provided3 with the real 8.2 release is the 'Hotspot Java VM'.   G Now if someone would explain to me the difference between the 'fast VM' * and the 'Hotspot Java VM' I'll be all set.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:45:18 -0600 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>4 Subject: Re: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600)D Message-ID: <craigberry-54AD05.08451714012005@news.isp.giganews.com>  < In article <4da1c6a.0501131812.54c59f27@posting.google.com>,(  Don.Zong@gmail.com (Jeff Rogers) wrote:  A > The same java program, runs much slower on rx2600 than on ds25.  > # > The program is a simple one like.  > / > for (int i=1; i<1000000000;i++){ int j = i;}   > > > It took 3 seconds on the alpha box but 80 seconds on rx2600. > E > We have a servlet program which usually takes about half seconds on A > the alpha box to finish but took 35 seconds on the itanium one.  > H > On rx2600 two 1.4G IA64 CPUs, 4G memory openvms8.2 field test version, > jvm 1.4.2-beta 2 > . > On ds25 2G memory, openvms 7.3-1, jvms 1.4.2 > F > Followed the jvm's user guide on performance tips. Don't see any IO, > quota issues on both boxes.  >  > Any thoughts?   E My first thought is that you may be violating an agreement not to do  H any benchmarking, though maybe that only applied to 8.1 EAK and not 8.2 A EFT.  And even if it's legal, it's not particularly useful to do  E performance comparisons between a beta version on one platform and a  A final release on another; the beta version may well have lots of  E debugging and traceback code in the images, for example.  If you are  C going to compare, make sure you are either comparing classic VM to  C classic VM or fast VM to fast VM, but better to wait for the final   release.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:18:53 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> 4 Subject: Re: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600)8 Message-ID: <a0nfu0tcp44d1hibqgabmf448hlbo312fi@4ax.com>  A On 14 Jan 2005 06:45:58 -0800, kenneth.randell@verizon.net wrote:    >  >julien courtemanche wrote:  >> according to me,  >>H >> the field test java version is not a HP fast VM version but a classic >one.  >>8 >> so, I'm agree for the moment it's very very slow..... >> > F >Pardon my lack of JAVA expertise, but here's what I know: There is noG >'fast VM' for Itanium-based JAVA VMS 8.2.  What's going to be provided 4 >with the real 8.2 release is the 'Hotspot Java VM'. > H >Now if someone would explain to me the difference between the 'fast VM'+ >and the 'Hotspot Java VM' I'll be all set.   K The Fast VM is the high performance Java Virtual Machine that runs on Alpha O OpenVMS. Originally this was developed for Tru64 then ported to VMS. Hotspot is F another Fast VM originally from Sun it has been ported to a variety ofO platforms. Hotspot is the Fast JVM on HP-UX & there are many nice performance & M tuning tools available that will be able to be used on OpenVMS too as Java is 
 Java is Java.    -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 08:21:57 -0800! From: "tb" <tbjava2005@yahoo.com> 4 Subject: Re: JVM much slower on Itanium box (rx2600)C Message-ID: <1105719717.039372.141910@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   F As an earlier reply pointed out, the Hotspot VM for OpenVMS on Itanium hasn't been released yet.   F About that one-line program for comparing JVM performance -  read this	 document:   Y <http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/tech/tech_TechDocumentDetailPage_IDX/1,1701,2155,00.html>   @ ...about the pitfalls of micro-benchmarking for Java, especiallyF Hotspot. I think you'll find that as written, the one-liner will stillE not perform well under Hotspot.  However, your servlet program should  improve greatly. 8^)  
 Tom Benson   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 01:00:43 -0600- From: jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com (JF Mezei) 7 Subject: Re: List of DEC boards to be auctioned on Ebay $ Message-ID: <41e76e1b$1_1@127.0.0.1>  1  "K. Marden" <kNuOrtSmP2A2M@netscape.net> writes:   9 |>PS. Please don't post dumps as it exposes my real email % |>address in the file to the bots....     A Your links will be picked up by the bots and indexed looked into. '  Posting dumps won't make a difference.   D If you do not want to have private information released to the net, B then never include documents produced by microsoft software which I often includes information from your system and possibly portions of RAM, E clipboard or other blocks that you don't want exposed to the outside.       O ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups E ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 01:18:21 -0600- From: jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com (JF Mezei) % Subject: Re: Mass mailing from Gorham $ Message-ID: <41e7723d$1_1@127.0.0.1>  M |>I'd like to hear from the coiffed cute one, in her own words, about this. I M |>know that many others in the VMS community are also interested in the words ' |>and the tone of the words she speaks.   N It is quite realistic to expect "the coiffed one" to mention VMS and 8.2 a fewG times during the presentation. I don't expect VMS to have prominence in  that presentation. (But might be surprised).   K If VMS gets much more than a passing comment, the next question is whether  I VMS' newfound exposure will be sustained and whether VMS will start to be 	 included  E along with HP-UX in advertisements, presentation and other marketing.   M History has shown that there have been many token mention of VMS, only to be  1 followed by the more consistent ignoring of VMS.    N So one presentation doesn't automatically signify a permanence change in HP's * policy on VMS marketing (or lack thereof).    O ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups E ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 01:09:07 -0600- From: jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com (JF Mezei) % Subject: Re: Mass mailing from Gorham $ Message-ID: <41e77013$1_1@127.0.0.1>  # susan_skonetski@hotmail.com writes:   E |>I sent mail to my distribution lists asking that this letter not be  |>posted until the 18.  J Sue, while I respect that your request not to release this letter prior to the 18th does need to be  B honoured by recipients, It may be a mistake for you to make such a request.  E If the 18th's webcast is to be so key for VMS, then you should foster  publication ofD such letter  to as wide an audience as possible, especially when you consider; that the VMS management are not allowed to use conventional  advertising/marketing outlets     O ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups E ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 06:33:52 -0800! From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com % Subject: Re: Mass mailing from Gorham C Message-ID: <1105713232.569187.126230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    Folks,  E Lets not let this get out of hand.  I have a number of folks on email E distribution some are under NDA (boot camp) and others are not.  Many A times I am allowed to send to the distribution before anything is F public and I ask folks not to post because I do not have permission to go external.  E That said there is another email distribution which I have no control D over and it is used about once a year.  John received a copy of thisF letter via that distribution.  He broke no trust of mine.  I jumped onE it because I do not know John's real name and I have no idea if he is 2 on my distribution.  The fault is mine not John's.  D If you are on distribution you are no doubt aware of next week alongG with a few other tidbits and we (engineering) are looking forward to an A exciting week.  If you are on the call, make sure you see the VMS  video.   John my apologies. Sue    Larry Kilgallen wrote:< > In article <60GFd.6323$846.4295@fe05.lga>, "Brad McCusker"# <brad.mccuskerNOSP@Mhp.com> writes:  > > 2 > > "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message* > > news:OJ-dnZvOLIxHaXvcRVn-qQ@igs.net... > > * > >> and the tone of the words she speaks. > >>E > > Ahhh.. Hedging  your bets I see.  So, even if she does have thing  to say, : > > you've set yourself up nicely to bitch about the tone. > >  > > Thank god for kill files.  >  > Kill files are not perfect.  > D > For instance they tend to let through posts from people commenting- > about posts by the killfiled individual :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:33:55 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>% Subject: Re: Mass mailing from Gorham = Message-ID: <LO2dncZfhpvMRXrcRVn-jA@metrocastcablevision.com>    Brad McCusker wrote:1 > "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message  ( > news:OJ-dnZvOLIxHaXvcRVn-qQ@igs.net... >  > ' >>and the tone of the words she speaks.  >> > L > Ahhh.. Hedging  your bets I see.  So, even if she does have thing to say, 8 > you've set yourself up nicely to bitch about the tone. >  > Thank god for kill files.   H While they certainly do make it easier to keep one's head firmly buried B in the sand (or somewhere else equally dark), I'm not sure that's & actually something to be thankful for.   But to each his own.   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:40:01 -0600 / From: "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com> % Subject: RE: Mass mailing from Gorham T Message-ID: <DA4AD590CAF06845B671C398333A89C607229862@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>  #  I'd take some of that action also.   E **Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.**  Ed   > -----Original Message------ > From: John Vottero [mailto:John@mvpsi.com]  * > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:05 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com ' > Subject: Re: Mass mailing from Gorham  > 1 > "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message  ( > news:kJmdnQDkCZhaTnvcRVn-iA@igs.net... >  > > H > > You don't hear that carly(tm) thinks OpenVMS is strategic. I've got = > > money riding on it that January 18th doesn't change that.  > >  > B > I've got money riding on you complaining no matter what happens. >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:56:35 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com " Subject: Re: Microvax II questions- Message-ID: <871xco2jxo.fsf@prep.synonet.com>     "E.S." <emu@ecubics.com> writes:   > prep@prep.synonet.com wrote:  2 >> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:  B >>>There are 3 purple chips in the middle. 2 large and one smallerE >>>one. I take it that the vax was implemented as 3 chips ? ( I think A >>>that the Microvax's claim to fame was the first vax to be on a  >>>single board, right ?)   @ >> Nope, the uV-I, aka Seahorse was first. Qbus memory though :(  ) > Sorry, the uV-I was a two board set ...   D Was it? CPU plus 2 memory boards I thought. Bitrot gets another one.  A BTW, if anyone knows of one in AU, I'd really like to get it into 2 the ACMS collection. IIs we have, but no I as yet.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:25:24 -0700  From: "E.S." <emu@ecubics.com>" Subject: Re: Microvax II questions7 Message-ID: <o8UFd.3240$aa6.1153@fe61.usenetserver.com>    prep@prep.synonet.com wrote:  " > "E.S." <emu@ecubics.com> writes: >  > @ >>>Nope, the uV-I, aka Seahorse was first. Qbus memory though :( > ) >>Sorry, the uV-I was a two board set ...  > F > Was it? CPU plus 2 memory boards I thought. Bitrot gets another one.  A Yes, CPU were/are two boards, and whatever memory on the qbus ;-)   C > BTW, if anyone knows of one in AU, I'd really like to get it into 4 > the ACMS collection. IIs we have, but no I as yet.   I have both of the uV-I's ;-)    Cheers   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:37:23 -0500 = From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@nfw-invalid.cibtrikker.com> " Subject: Re: Microvax II questions, Message-ID: <MvqdnQFUoZX_jHXcRVn-iw@dls.net>  * "E.S." <emu@ecubics.com> wrote in message 1 news:o8UFd.3240$aa6.1153@fe61.usenetserver.com...  > prep@prep.synonet.com wrote: > # >> "E.S." <emu@ecubics.com> writes:  >> >>A >>>>Nope, the uV-I, aka Seahorse was first. Qbus memory though :(  >>* >>>Sorry, the uV-I was a two board set ... >>G >> Was it? CPU plus 2 memory boards I thought. Bitrot gets another one.  > C > Yes, CPU were/are two boards, and whatever memory on the qbus ;-)  > D >> BTW, if anyone knows of one in AU, I'd really like to get it into5 >> the ACMS collection. IIs we have, but no I as yet.  >  > I have both of the uV-I's ;-)  >  > Cheers >  >   L My little collection has uV-I, uV-II and uV-III, widescreen edition (BA123).   -John    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:48:34 GMT # From: "Marco" <marco@Z.nbnet.nb.ca> 5 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 8.2 on Itanium... any emulators? > Message-ID: <mkOFd.208775$Np3.8860264@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>  8 Yes, I did not read before...  Sorry for the assumption.   Marco   : "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:JGd95zd8QyIi@eisner.encompasserve.org... H > In article <jBzFd.208470$Np3.8842981@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>, "Marco" <marco@Z.nbnet.nb.ca> writes: , > > Soon-to-be-released OpenVMS for Intel... > > J > > Makes me wonder if there's any emulators (VMware or others) that might$ > > support a OpenVMS 8.2 install... > >  > > What do you guys think?  > H > I think you are taking a write-before-read approach to this newsgroup. > G > By the time you read this comment, presumably you will have found the J > existing topics where emulation of non-Vaxen for VMS has been discussed.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:06:42 GMT # From: "Marco" <marco@Z.nbnet.nb.ca> 5 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 8.2 on Itanium... any emulators? > Message-ID: <mBOFd.208782$Np3.8860858@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>  H > I think you are taking a write-before-read approach to this newsgroup. > G > By the time you read this comment, presumably you will have found the J > existing topics where emulation of non-Vaxen for VMS has been discussed.  K Is this beyond December 30th, 2004?  Seems my ISP has expired articles, and A I can't seem to find the right combo of words to find anything at 
 www.deja.com.   + Can anyone help me out with a quick answer?    Marco    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:28:57 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)T Subject: Reject-Unbacktranslatable-IP v. "Received: from unknown.hostname (x.x.x.x)") Message-ID: <05011410285752@antinode.org>    ALP $ tcpip show version  3   HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.4 4   on a AlphaStation 200 4/233 running OpenVMS V7.3-1  F    My SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$SMTP]SMTP.CONFIG file contains the following line:   " Reject-Unbacktranslatable-IP: TRUE  
    The docF ("http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732final/6526/6526pro_040.html") says:  ,       18.6.5 Translating Client IP Addresses  F       You can configure SMTP to translate the client's IP address to aF       host name, and to disconnect the link if no host name exists. ToF       enable this feature, set the Reject-Unbacktranslatable-IP optionG       in SMTP.CONFIG. Translation is not performed if the SMTP client's ;       IP address matches an entry in the Good-Clients list.       I have no Good-Clients list.   H    I still get mail with headers containing data like these, which I hadH expected not to get, as the host address translation failed (and fails):  / Received: from unknown.hostname (222.233.94.99) =          by alp.antinode.org (V5.4-15, OpenVMS V7.3-1 Alpha);   / Received: from unknown.hostname (83.221.73.177) =          by alp.antinode.org (V5.4-15, OpenVMS V7.3-1 Alpha);       What am I missing?   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:26:26 -0500 * From: Will Kranz <will_kranz@softhome.net>? Subject: Saveset File Format - ie extensions to vmsbackup 4.1.1 A Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.1.20050114075459.00a83580@mail.softhome.net>   J This is a MIME-formatted message.  If you see this text it means that your9 E-mail software does not support MIME-formatted messages.    --=_jive-5952-1105709634-0001-2 W Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1DF6C78; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 7 X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to 7bit by courier 0.38   
 Good Morning: F I'm abstractly interested in the internal details of the saveset file  format.  TheN most definative work I've seen was a unix program, version 4.1.1 of vmsbackup./     ftp://ftp.lp.se/free-vms/vmsbackup4-1-1.zip O I suspect it is available at a number of other sites,  my files were dated 1997 G with the author's comments dated in the mid 1980s.  Has anyone done, or $ seen more recent work on this topic?  I In particular I'd like to convert some multiple volume TU58 savesets to a H single contiguous file to be used from a CDrom.  It looks like I need toH change some header values for this to work, which will presumably impartI the checksum.  I can't figure out what checksum was used, or which region J is really being tested.  I guess I could do the installation from TU58 andK then backup the files up again to a new saveset, but I'm looking for a more H elegant solution and a little more knowledge regarding how the files are structured.    Thanks.    --=_jive-5952-1105709634-0001-2 T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1DF6C78 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Content-Disposition: inline      --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.818 / Virus Database: 556 - Release Date: 12/17/2004   ! --=_jive-5952-1105709634-0001-2--    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 06:06:39 -0800$ From: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org>C Subject: Re: Saveset File Format - ie extensions to vmsbackup 4.1.1 B Message-ID: <1105711599.824057.29620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  E DEC used to have a product that read and duplicated backup images.  I G don't know if it's still around or not.  The problem with trying to use ? your own application is that you'll likely bypass all the error G checking that's already built into VMS backup.  For example, if you get F a read error on your old TU58, you'll want to try and recover the dataB from the redundancy groups if you can.  That's something that  VMS& Backup will take care of quite nicely.  E Since the TU58 tapes don't hold a lot of data, would it not simply be A easier to use Backup to restore the images to a scratch disk  and D re-write a new backup disk image that you can blast to CD?  You justE know that VMS Backup will get it right - hacking some older code will G require a lot of testing to make sure the right thing is happening now.  .../Ed   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:47:15 GMT 1 From: Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> C Subject: Re: Saveset File Format - ie extensions to vmsbackup 4.1.1 1 Message-ID: <nISFd.5888$RP.4396@news.cpqcorp.net>    Ed Wilts wrote: G > DEC used to have a product that read and duplicated backup images.  I ) > don't know if it's still around or not.   ! Save Set Manager. See the SPD at  2 http://h18000.www1.hp.com/info/SP6264/SP6264PF.PDF  F $BACKUP/LIST/ANALYZE may help decode the save_set format, if you must.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:31:28 -0500 + From: "Robert Coleman" <colemanrl@ornl.gov>  Subject: Setting colors ( Message-ID: <cs8okg$fia$1@sws1.ornl.gov>  	 VMS 7.3-1  Style Manager -- Colors   L When I try to change colors in X style manager the buttons for "add, delete M and modify" are disabled.  This is true regardless of how I log in  (even as  K system).  Anyone have an idea about why this is happening or how to change   it?   
 Thank you, Bobby    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 07:59:17 -0800* From: arobinson@hspg.com (Andrew Robinson)  Subject: Simple Printing Problem= Message-ID: <83d68d2c.0501140759.646577e6@posting.google.com>   0 Sorry to trouble you folks with my problems but:  E I need to setup a queue which automatically prints to a specific tray @ on an HP printer, but I can't use the /forms option in the print
 statement.E The print is being generated automatically from a compiled program to B a specific queue name (which I can change). Is there any way I canC initialize the queue so it automatically sends the form info before E every job. I did start to look at using a modified job separator, but F felt there must be something like the /separate=Reset module which you? can use, which sends at the beginning of each job, not the end.   * Thank you in advance for any help offered.  C Maybe its a Friday afternoon thing where then brain just refuses to  see the obvious!   Ta   Andrew Robinson    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 10:16:51 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org$ Subject: Re: Simple Printing Problem3 Message-ID: <8clULQdskF2e@eisner.encompasserve.org>   j In article <83d68d2c.0501140759.646577e6@posting.google.com>, arobinson@hspg.com (Andrew Robinson) writes:2 > Sorry to trouble you folks with my problems but: > G > I need to setup a queue which automatically prints to a specific tray B > on an HP printer, but I can't use the /forms option in the print > statement.G > The print is being generated automatically from a compiled program to D > a specific queue name (which I can change). Is there any way I canE > initialize the queue so it automatically sends the form info before G > every job. I did start to look at using a modified job separator, but H > felt there must be something like the /separate=Reset module which youA > can use, which sends at the beginning of each job, not the end.   $ $ INIT /QUEUE /DEFAULT=FORM=whatever  F You could also look into the possibility of associating a setup moduleA with the DEFAULT form.  You could make this module empty in every C device control library other than the one associated with the print / queue where you need the special tray handling.   @ I seem to recall that the reset module also gets activated prior< to the first job printed.  But that doesn't help if you have; multiple print queues printing to the same physical device. D And in any case, it's been many years since I last played with reset modules in any detail.     	John Briggs   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:52:17 +0000 (UTC) ! From: JKB <knatschke@chezmoi.com> - Subject: [FreeVMS] Announce new release 0.1.2 ; Message-ID: <slrncuf932.hn8.knatschke@rayleigh.systella.fr>    	Hello,    New release 0.1.2 atF ftp.nvg.ntnu.no:/pub/vms/freevms (freevms-0_1_2.tgz and linker-0_0_57)# (Linker might not change each time)    News:  General:G Improved init a bit so CDU does not complain and VFS ODS-2 mount works. * Have also done something on VFS ODS-2, see ftp.nvg.ntnu.no:/pub/linux/ods2  Integrated librtl codeA DCL has got some simple symbol support (mainly set, get, delete). * Have mostly changed DCL over to using CLD.   New bugs/features:" Some in the symbol implementation.) Probably some with the changeover to CLD.    Bugs fixed:  General:4 Init lacked some checksums and did not set resfiles.? CDU replicated some parts of the parse tree that it should not.    Notes: General:F Old use of DCL verbs is now with odirectory and _odirectory instead ofB directory and _directory. (Might be removed entirely next release)# Symbol set a = 3 must have spacing. 9 CLD changeover implies syntax changes closer to real DCL. > VFS ODS-2 might not yet be usable for installing directly to a filesystem.   ( 	All other informations are available at6 	http://www.systella.fr/~bertrand/FreeVMS/indexGB.html  	 	Regards,    	JKB   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jan 2005 09:41:07 -0800$ From: "Tillman" <tillmanj@gmail.com>Y Subject: Re: [reply] New 4000/60 hobbyist -- tcpip startup fails with "error defining itn C Message-ID: <1105724467.021632.151200@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Howdy,  D I'm hoping to resurrect this thread -- I'm still unable to bring the interface up with tcpip.  C It seems odd, it's a completely stock  Vaxstation 4000/60 with RZ25 C disk and ESA0 onboard ethernet. I'd have a hard time swallowing the @ notion that the OpenVMS hobbyist CD for Vax doesn't support that? interface: I'd find it much easier to believe that I'm just not  configuring it right ;-)   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.028 ************************