0 INFO-VAX	Sun, 16 Jan 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 31      Contents: *CASH*CASH*CASH* Re: ACMS and XML' Re: Hardware Today: HPC Server Snapshot  Re: HP and SAP? Re: Installing OpenVMS 7.3 Alpha on a 600a Workstation problems ? Re: Installing OpenVMS 7.3 Alpha on a 600a Workstation problems ? Re: Installing OpenVMS 7.3 Alpha on a 600a Workstation problems ? Re: Installing OpenVMS 7.3 Alpha on a 600a Workstation problems  J F kooks out again  J F kooks out again  Re: J F kooks out again " new.com article about OpenVMS v8.2& Re: new.com article about OpenVMS v8.2 OpenVMS 8.2 Itanium emulator?  TCP/IP on OpenVMS 7.3  Re: TCP/IP on OpenVMS 7.3  Re: VMS in Semiconductors  Re: VMS in Semiconductors  Re: VMS in Semiconductors  Re: vms versus solaris Re: vms versus solaris Re: vms versus solaris Re: [OT] To Paul Sture  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 15 Jan 2005 22:10:05 -0800. From: "NeoTycoon" <neotycoon@netexecutive.com> Subject: *CASH*CASH*CASH* C Message-ID: <1105855805.592098.190500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    Neo Tech Party Administration  *CASH*CASH*CASH*   Posted By: B (205.188.197.157) Date: 01/02/05  C Turn $6.00 into $42,000...read this to find out how!!! READING THIS G COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE! I found this on a bulletin board and decided to D try it. A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, justF like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that saidB you could make thousands of cash within weeks with only an initialE investment of $6.00! So I thought, "Yeah right, this must be a scam", F but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it saidD that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in theF article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of theG list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are @ thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, andD talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured:B "what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right?" Then I@ invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!!... within 7 days, IG started getting cash in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end F soon, but the cash just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about@ $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of overA $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still C growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just F over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in rapidly. It's certainly worthE $6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more than that on the lottery!! Let F me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works....Also,B make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get theF information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you followE the directions exactly, that you will start making more cash than you B thought possible by doing something so easy! Suggestion: Read thisC entire message carefully! (print it out or download it.) Follow the D simple directions and watch the cash come in! It's easy. It's legal.D And, your investment is only $6.00 (Plus postage) IMPORTANT: This is? not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is ? virtually no risk - it really works!!!! If all of the following F instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends.C PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or C more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful @ because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. PleaseC continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You F will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business yourA product is not solid and tangible, it's a service. You are in the G business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy C to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the cash made from the G mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like B you and me asking to be included in that list. Here are the 4 easyF steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write theF following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST."E Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of C paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent D thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and sealB them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece ofB paper stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00B bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELYE LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for G it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about C the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post C Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! 0 Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:    : 1) Nathan Gilreath 6049 Porter Ave. East Lansing, MI 48823  < 2) Beth Collins 1012 Woodbine Ave., Toronto, Ontario M4C 4C1  D 3) Melody McKinley 8 Huntingdon Drive Dartmouth, Nova Scotia B2V 1w1  * 4) C. Witt 12 Pine ST. Attleboro, MA 02703  1 5) Ben Ervin 1281 Cadillac Dr. Hamilton, OH 45013   4 6) D J Kelly 661 powell st apt # 3 Brooklyn Ny 11212  F STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move theF other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name asE number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to B keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post yourG amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to D 24,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post,@ the more cash you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have anyF doubts, refer to Title 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws.D Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need cash,B you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER that this program> remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of theG participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at G it this way. If you are of integrity, the program will continue and the D cash that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: YouB may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on aG computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES F that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good ideaD to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.)E So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, @ six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List? Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list E geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will F be receiving thousands of cash in CASH!!! What an opportunity for onlyC $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it : now, add your own name to the list and you're in business!E ---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1) E You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. D Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag yourF cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy' from the editG menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer's memory. Step F 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of theG blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste a copy E of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. D Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to doG your postings in different settings, you'll always have this file to go D back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searchingC for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, F discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this articleF as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selectingF paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the headerC that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a F particular group, click the post message button. You're done with yourE first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to D different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, itC will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE E NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE Cash YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO E POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin receiving cash from G around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box E due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay D anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman willE deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now the G WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low E example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, A each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 G postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of E the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make D 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I willF bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around andB post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 repliesF each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part,G each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 D and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!!C Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups D with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react IC will receive $15,625.00! With an original investment of only $6.00! C AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the E latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names C on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting A again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of D people all over the world are joining the internet and reading theseD articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00E and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, "what if G the plan is played out and no one sends you the cash? So what! What are E the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users A and new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups E everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to G 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual G internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:52:42 GMT ; From: "Jeffrey H. Coffield" <jeffrey@digitalsynergyinc.com>  Subject: Re: ACMS and XML = Message-ID: <e1iGd.10857$wZ2.1333@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>    ed.peterson@acs-inc.com wrote: > I > We are running a COBOL/ACMS/Rdb application that was originally written  >  > What are our options?  >   A My first reaction to your situation was "How many layers are you  G using?". Have you looked at FastCGI? It sounds as if your applications  F already can take data a screen at a time instead of a field at a time G and that is the major change needed to get existing VMS application to  F be accessed from a web browser. An Apache/Linux front end will easily I run a year or so between boots and when the back end changes, all you do  A is start another back end process and it will take over from the  $ previous one without any disruption.  
 Jeff Coffield    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:02:20 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>0 Subject: Re: Hardware Today: HPC Server Snapshot, Message-ID: <34tsnkF4f66fiU1@individual.net>   Richard Brodie wrote:   0 > <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> wrote in message= > news:1105489135.370330.5170@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...  >  > H >>Was it Mark Twain who said that there were three kinds of statistics - >>lies, lies and Damn Lies?  >  > J > A tricky question: Twain himself attributed the quotation to the BritishH > PM Benjamin Disraeli but there is no primary source for this. He might1 > have misremembered, or just invented the quote.  >  >   . And Twain's attribution is itself explored at 6 http://www1c.btwebworld.com/quote-unquote/p0000149.htm   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:17:10 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> Subject: Re: HP and SAP , Message-ID: <34ttjeF4gr6obU1@individual.net>   Jan van Mastbergen wrote:   < > "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message> > news:1105466886.5a6aaddce3cce78e9c7c6aa1680b88e2@teranews... >  >>John Smith wrote:  >>K >>>I was flipping through a magazine this moning and came across an ad from  >  > SAP  > J >>>which was extolling the benefits of the SAP application has provided to >  > HP > " >>>in their recent SAP conversion. >>C >>Funny that you went to the "if SAP ran on VMS". To me, my initial  >  > reactions  > I >>was: considering that SAP costed HP a lot of money in lost sales, it is K >>interesting that SAP would dare advertise HP as a customer since they are  >  > not  > 1 >>exactly a success story for SAP implementation.  >  > G > That is not so strange. Most SAP implementations are long and painful 
 > excercises. L > Rather than limitations in the software, the key question is 'How to eat a > dinosaur?'> > One bite at a time, of course or you'll have an indigestion.H > Btw and even more OT, here are some SAP nicknames that crossed my path > recently:  > Sorge, Aerger un Probleme  > Sanduhranzeigeprogramm > Software aus Polen >  > Any more?  Jan van Mastbergen  >  >    Schweiss, Angst, Panik1                  (German for: Sweat, Fear, Panic)  Selber Alles Programmieren' 		(German for: Self Everything Program)   H See http://neil.franklin.ch/Jokes_and_Fun/Acronym_Interpretations for a K selection of acronyms for other products - particularly like the following:   - MCSE	Meine Computerkenntisse Sind Erbaermlich 0 		(German for: My Computer knowledge Is Pitiful)   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:01:24 +0000 (UTC) 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)H Subject: Re: Installing OpenVMS 7.3 Alpha on a 600a Workstation problems1 Message-ID: <newscache$cmjdai$ju22$1@news.sil.at>   W In article <9L6dnX72N4YzJXXcRVn-qA@inreach.com>, John Hixson <john@divinix.org> writes: H >   A while ago I purchased an alpha 433au and installed openvms on it, E >however, the motherboard was bad and I kept having problems with it  
 >crashing.  : Was it surely the motherboard or else the memory perhaps ?/ And do use the same memory on the PWS600 then ? H Or do you like to test if the cache module is the problem (remove it for, a while and live with a worse performance) ?   ? >The guy went ahead and sent me a new motherboard and it turns  G >out the board is a 600a board with alphabios on it. When I update the  F >firmware, it states it has SRM v7.2.1 on it, however, I am unable to  >load the SRM console.  N V7.2-1 is still current for the PWS and sufficient for the latest VMS version.D http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/digitalpw.html  I >                       I set in the alphabios advanced CMOS settings to  H >use the OpenVMS SRM Console and it doesn't switch. I save the settings . >and reboot, and it still doesn't go into SRM.  B You need to repower the system. A save settings is not sufficient.  E >                                               I look at the system  6 >config and it appears that SRM is not on the machine.  . Where does then this V7.2-1 figure come from ?H There once were half flashed AlphaStations (like half of the 200 family)L which couldn't hold SRM and ARC (name of the AlphaBIOS on the AlphaStations)J at the same time. You had to reflash them for switching the opsys. I neverI heard that the PWS had such configurations. But if it is the case (which\ J I still doubt) then there is a way to get SRM into it. Read on the website' (URL above) and in VMS FAQ (URL below).   H >                                                      I do not want to I >run windows NT On this damn box, I want to run OpenVMS and learn it but  H >this is proving to be a pain in the ass. Can anybody here give me some 1 >guidance as to how I can proceed to use OpenVMS?     http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:18:11 -0800 $ From: John Hixson <john@divinix.org>H Subject: Re: Installing OpenVMS 7.3 Alpha on a 600a Workstation problems0 Message-ID: <4NCdnVqAad4IFXTcRVn-sg@inreach.com>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:Y > In article <9L6dnX72N4YzJXXcRVn-qA@inreach.com>, John Hixson <john@divinix.org> writes:  > H >>  A while ago I purchased an alpha 433au and installed openvms on it, F >>however, the motherboard was bad and I kept having problems with it  >>crashing.  >  > < > Was it surely the motherboard or else the memory perhaps ?1 > And do use the same memory on the PWS600 then ? J > Or do you like to test if the cache module is the problem (remove it for. > a while and live with a worse performance) ? >     7 Yep, was definitly the motherboard, or something on it.    > @ >>The guy went ahead and sent me a new motherboard and it turns H >>out the board is a 600a board with alphabios on it. When I update the G >>firmware, it states it has SRM v7.2.1 on it, however, I am unable to   >>load the SRM console.  >   H I was finally able to get into the SRM console. This was due to lack of I knowledge on my part. I had to simply press the reset button rather than  I    do a reboot to enter SRM. However, SRM would fail machine check (this  , is on the new motherboard - the 600a board).   > P > V7.2-1 is still current for the PWS and sufficient for the latest VMS version.F > http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/digitalpw.html >  > I >>                      I set in the alphabios advanced CMOS settings to  I >>use the OpenVMS SRM Console and it doesn't switch. I save the settings  / >>and reboot, and it still doesn't go into SRM.  >  > D > You need to repower the system. A save settings is not sufficient. >  > E >>                                              I look at the system  7 >>config and it appears that SRM is not on the machine.  >  > 0 > Where does then this V7.2-1 figure come from ?J > There once were half flashed AlphaStations (like half of the 200 family)N > which couldn't hold SRM and ARC (name of the AlphaBIOS on the AlphaStations)L > at the same time. You had to reflash them for switching the opsys. I neverK > heard that the PWS had such configurations. But if it is the case (which\ L > I still doubt) then there is a way to get SRM into it. Read on the website) > (URL above) and in VMS FAQ (URL below).  >  > H >>                                                     I do not want to J >>run windows NT On this damn box, I want to run OpenVMS and learn it but I >>this is proving to be a pain in the ass. Can anybody here give me some  2 >>guidance as to how I can proceed to use OpenVMS? >  > " > http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq >    =).   E I'm not quite sure what the hardware is, however there is a peice of  I hardware right next to the cpu and I took the module from the 600a board  G and replaced it on the 433au board, and everything seems to be fine so  D far. The system still blinks the led's several times and the screen I blinks several times while booting, but OpenVMS boots now and everything  I   appears to be functioning. Now I am a complete novice with OpenVMS and  C I am reading all the FAQ'S and stuff. Currently I am trying to get  E TCP/IP functioning so I can just login over telnet or ssh. Thank you  # guys for helping out once again =).   
 - John Hixson    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:23:22 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> H Subject: Re: Installing OpenVMS 7.3 Alpha on a 600a Workstation problems, Message-ID: <41E989CA.7010203@tsoft-inc.com>   John Hixson wrote:  
 > Hi guys,H >   A while ago I purchased an alpha 433au and installed openvms on it, F > however, the motherboard was bad and I kept having problems with it J > crashing. The guy went ahead and sent me a new motherboard and it turns H > out the board is a 600a board with alphabios on it. When I update the G > firmware, it states it has SRM v7.2.1 on it, however, I am unable to  I > load the SRM console. I set in the alphabios advanced CMOS settings to  I > use the OpenVMS SRM Console and it doesn't switch. I save the settings  E > and reboot, and it still doesn't go into SRM. I look at the system  I > config and it appears that SRM is not on the machine. I do not want to  J > run windows NT On this damn box, I want to run OpenVMS and learn it but I > this is proving to be a pain in the ass. Can anybody here give me some  2 > guidance as to how I can proceed to use OpenVMS? > 	 > Thanks, 
 > John Hixson   M You started with a 433au, and then got a 600a board.  The au is supported by  O VMS.  The a varity is a bit different, but I'm not real knowledgable about the  , differences.  I think it's the SCSI support.  P Peter mentioned memory.  I'd definitely try the 433 with one module pulled out, O and swapping them until you determine whether one is bad.  If more than one is   bad, this won't work.   ; Possibly you could get the seller to provide an 'au' board?    Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:49:17 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> H Subject: Re: Installing OpenVMS 7.3 Alpha on a 600a Workstation problems( Message-ID: <opskocsfttzgicya@hyrrokkin>  I On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:18:11 -0800, John Hixson <john@divinix.org> wrote:    > =). I >  I'm not quite sure what the hardware is, however there is a peice of   L > hardware right next to the cpu and I took the module from the 600a board  J > and replaced it on the 433au board, and everything seems to be fine so  G > far. The system still blinks the led's several times and the screen   A > blinks several times while booting, but OpenVMS boots now and   J > everything  appears to be functioning. Now I am a complete novice with  K > OpenVMS and I am reading all the FAQ'S and stuff. Currently I am trying   C > to get TCP/IP functioning so I can just login over telnet or ssh. 0 >  Thank you guys for helping out once again =). >   > Very likely you ca rest the dip switches to run the 433 at 600   --  C Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Jan 2005 23:13:33 -00003 From: There You Go Again J F <jf@kooksoutagain.com>  Subject: J F kooks out again3 Message-ID: <BKKUBM0M38368.3010763889@reece.net.au>   \ Nine foaming-at-the-mouth anti-USA rants (and counting) in a space of about two short hours.  " JF, are you off your meds again???  J It is obvious that your hatred of the United States is rooted in jealousy.H You are rabid in your attacks against the USA yet you can't seem to talk/ or think about anything else.  It consumes you.   S Why are you so obsessed with the USA?  You don't live there, you don't travel there R (you don't seem to travel anywhere), yet you spend your entire waking life readingN about the USA, watching American television from across the border, and raving7 like a lunatic against the USA and all things American.   M Have you considered suicide?  Seriously, it would put you out of your misery.    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_uauthors=nobody&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_uauthors=nobody&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=usa&safe=images&as_uauthors=jf%20mezei&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_uauthors=jf%20mezei&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Jan 2005 23:39:19 -00003 From: There You Go Again J F <jf@kooksoutagain.com>  Subject: J F kooks out again3 Message-ID: <ZQ63QI0M38368.3189699074@reece.net.au>   \ Nine foaming-at-the-mouth anti-USA rants (and counting) in a space of about two short hours.  " JF, are you off your meds again???  J It is obvious that your hatred of the United States is rooted in jealousy.H You are rabid in your attacks against the USA yet you can't seem to talk/ or think about anything else.  It consumes you.   S Why are you so obsessed with the USA?  You don't live there, you don't travel there R (you don't seem to travel anywhere), yet you spend your entire waking life readingN about the USA, watching American television from across the border, and raving7 like a lunatic against the USA and all things American.   M Have you considered suicide?  Seriously, it would put you out of your misery.    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_uauthors=nobody&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_uauthors=nobody&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=usa&safe=images&as_uauthors=jf%20mezei&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_uauthors=jf%20mezei&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:35:23 GMT E From: "Gregory Morrow" <gregorymorrowREMEMBERARTIESHAW@earthlink.net>   Subject: Re: J F kooks out againB Message-ID: <%hlGd.7735$C52.4771@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>   There You Go Again J F wrote:   G > Nine foaming-at-the-mouth anti-USA rants (and counting) in a space of  about two short hours. > $ > JF, are you off your meds again??? > L > It is obvious that your hatred of the United States is rooted in jealousy.J > You are rabid in your attacks against the USA yet you can't seem to talk1 > or think about anything else.  It consumes you.  > H > Why are you so obsessed with the USA?  You don't live there, you don't travel thereL > (you don't seem to travel anywhere), yet you spend your entire waking life reading I > about the USA, watching American television from across the border, and  raving9 > like a lunatic against the USA and all things American.  > G > Have you considered suicide?  Seriously, it would put you out of your  misery.  >  >  http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_uauthors=nobody&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en  >  >  http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_uauthors=nobody&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en  >  >  http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=usa&safe=images&as_uauthors=jf%20mezei&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en  >  >  http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_uauthors=jf%20mezei&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en >     K And poor JF is also a French - Canuck, a group that is the trailor trash of  North America...  B Maybe JF is foaming at the mouth because his phimosis is acting upI again...he needs to have his maman take a cleaver to that pesky foreskin!    --   Best Greg   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:04:16 -0600 , From: "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net>+ Subject: new.com article about OpenVMS v8.2 0 Message-ID: <3P-dnRVKDKTDDnTcRVn-tA@comcast.com>  P http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5537046.html?type=pt&part=inv&tag=feed&subj=news   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:19:01 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> / Subject: Re: new.com article about OpenVMS v8.2 , Message-ID: <41E9EB33.693DFBD5@teksavvy.com>   Dave Gudewicz wrote: > R > http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-5537046.html?type=pt&part=inv&tag=feed&subj=news   Interesting paragraph:? >But presumably, HP did the math and decided the investment was " worthwhile--unlike the conclusion A >it reached with its largely phased-out HP 3000 line. The OpenVMS ! business was profitable in 2003,  > >but HP declined to state whether it is today, citing investor
 regulations.    F Another example of HP finding excuses for not talking about VMS. FunnyC how those same investor regulations require HP to divulge plenty of G information about wintel shipments and profitability (or lack thereof).     E >OpenVMS 8.2 supports clusters of as many as 16 machines--up to eight  Alpha-based and up to eight E >Itanium-based in the same group, a source familiar with the software  said.   G It is a real shame that they've downgraded the clustering from 96 nodes E on VAX/Alpha to just 16 nodes and an even greater shame that they are H touting the 16 nodes now. (I know that they will up the number later on,H but nobody will notice that because it won't make the splash). HP shouldA reall;y be touting the 96 node number TODAY, with perhaps just an N asterix pointing to fine print saying that on IA64 it is limited to 16 nodes).    F >HP also is expected to introduce per-processor licensing for OpenVMS, letting customers pay for D >the amount of computing horsepower they're using instead of today's pricing based on the  ! >capability of the entire system.   A While in the short rterm this may be interesting, it sort of goes A against the industry  trend outside of HP to remove per-processor E pricing due to the onslaught of dual core CPUs used instead of higher 
 Mhz rates.  @ Also, there wasn't really the need to mention there are only 250F applciations available on IA64-VMS versus 3000 on other IA64 based OS.    @ It is good that they would put a 2 page article on VMS. But theyE certaintly didn't put a terrific spin on it.  HP should have been far J more forthcoming to ensure the article had a far more positive spin to it.  F This article, combined with Sue's request for secrecy is an indicationE to me that HP isn't setting the stage for a big VMS-related splash on @ the 18th. As the CNET article stated, the thurst of the Jan 18th( announcement will be the new IA64 chips.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:11:40 GMT # From: "Marco" <marco@Z.nbnet.nb.ca> & Subject: OpenVMS 8.2 Itanium emulator?> Message-ID: <w3kGd.211130$Np3.8906901@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>  I Is there some kind of Intel x86 Itanium emulator for running OpenVMS 8.2?   A Seems my ISP has expired articles beyond December 30th, 2004, and A I can't seem to find the right combo of words to find anything at 
 www.deja.com.   + Can anyone help me out with a quick answer?    Marco    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:29:57 -0800 $ From: John Hixson <john@divinix.org> Subject: TCP/IP on OpenVMS 7.30 Message-ID: <seadnbGP-o0rQnTcRVn-pA@inreach.com>   Hi again guys,E    I got my openvms system up and running and I also have an openvms  I hobbyist license. I did not get the license by purchasing a CD, I got it  D   by email after sighning up with decus. I would like to get TCP/IP C services on my machine. Currently I connect through minicom over a  D serial line. I seem to not be able to run decnet or tcpip without a H license. I haven't been able to find any information on this either. Is E there a hobbyist like license for openvms that would allow me to run  E these services? Am I barking up the wrong tree? I attempted to get a eB multinet license but it says my checksum is invalid, which I dont G understand unless im entering in the wrong information. EVen if I were A; to get multinet, Im not sure how I would get it on the box.7  
 Thanks again,a John Hixsonp   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:54:37 -0500i' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>e" Subject: Re: TCP/IP on OpenVMS 7.3* Message-ID: <41E9F38D.70207@tsoft-inc.com>   John Hixson wrote:   > Hi again guys,F >   I got my openvms system up and running and I also have an openvms K > hobbyist license. I did not get the license by purchasing a CD, I got it lE >  by email after sighning up with decus. I would like to get TCP/IP -E > services on my machine. Currently I connect through minicom over a mF > serial line. I seem to not be able to run decnet or tcpip without a J > license. I haven't been able to find any information on this either. Is G > there a hobbyist like license for openvms that would allow me to run .G > these services? Am I barking up the wrong tree? I attempted to get a oD > multinet license but it says my checksum is invalid, which I dont I > understand unless im entering in the wrong information. EVen if I were  = > to get multinet, Im not sure how I would get it on the box.s >  > Thanks again,a
 > John Hixsona  P You get the hobbyist licenses for other products the same place you got the VMS # license.  You need to ask for both.a   Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:01:19 -0500y- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>s" Subject: Re: VMS in Semiconductors, Message-ID: <41E9687E.C05573B7@teksavvy.com>   David B Sneddon wrote:7 > Unlikely, since I have never been to the site before.u# > I just clicked on the above link.r     A few theories:d  E Remember when the Wall Street Journal struck a deal that resultyed inwH users of Microsoft's browser being able to continuye to use the site forF free, but users of other browsers couldn't ? Perhaps this is a similar
 case here.  G The URL you posted causes a redirect to a login screen for me (and manyt) others based on what has been said here).   E Another option is that they let you in because your IP is not a north0G american one and if the publication offers printed copies only in north E america, it doesn't hurt their sales to offer the on-line version for $ free to those outside north america.    O ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----eS http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups E ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---f   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:16:07 GMTe! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>m" Subject: Re: VMS in Semiconductors8 Message-ID: <1rpiu0pbrkth58ftbeocoi0bos9fopus26@4ax.com>  K On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:01:19 -0500, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>n wrote:  H >The URL you posted causes a redirect to a login screen for me (and many* >others based on what has been said here). >iF >Another option is that they let you in because your IP is not a northH >american one and if the publication offers printed copies only in northF >america, it doesn't hurt their sales to offer the on-line version for% >free to those outside north america.0  I I tried from a .com &  a .fr address & got prompted to register with both  Mozilla & Internet Explorer.   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azure   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:58:23 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> " Subject: Re: VMS in Semiconductors+ Message-ID: <41E975DB.B60165B@teksavvy.com>e   Nigel Barker wrote: K > I tried from a .com &  a .fr address & got prompted to register with bothe > Mozilla & Internet Explorer.  D Servers may not look at the tld in a reverse lookup. They may simplyE look to see if an IP belongs to an ARIN or other group. For instance, D ozemail.com.au customers are often assigned ARIN (north american) IPC adresses out of the owner's UUNET block, so even though they are ino> australia, they appear to be in north america to some servers.  C That is why, for instance, some australians were able to access thenE republican's web site during last election in the USA, and other werelG not (that web site was specifically configured to prevent non americanseC from accessing it - unfortunatly, this "science" is far from exact.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:04:54 -0500e- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>y Subject: Re: vms versus solarisa, Message-ID: <41E96955.6E77E743@teksavvy.com>   Eitan wrote: > 6 > Is there any resamblance between vms and solaris os.N > If so, then what are the main things that are simmiliar and what are not (in
 > brief) ?   What is similar:B They both support X-windows. the Alpha version of VMS supports CDE desktop, so does Solaris.o  > Solaris is one version of unix. VMS is not a Unix variant, but, incorporates much of the unix functionality.  F Big difference is that Solaris is actively marketed and pushed by Sun,9 VMS is not marketed nor pushed by its current owner (HP).3    O ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----oS http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 NewsgroupsrE ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---t   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:23:39 +0000 (UTC)a6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: vms versus solaris 1 Message-ID: <newscache$enkdai$ow22$1@news.sil.at>   T In article <41e94fd5$1@news.012.net.il>, "Eitan" <no_spam_please@nospam.com> writes:5 >Is there any resamblance between vms and solaris os.e  + Both comply to the definitions of an OpSys.oG Both are "open" and comply to many (dejure/defacto and UNIX) standards. 2 Both are not from M$ (and are therefor virusfree).  N >If so, then what are the main things that are simmiliar and what are not (in 	 >brief) ?   1 Asking such a question is begging for a flamewar.hG And the answer of this newsgroup of course is, VMS is the better opsys.   G For other answers read the OpenVMS FAQ http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/faqr   -- d Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERo% Network and OpenVMS system specialista E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:56:16 -0500i- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>e Subject: Re: vms versus solarisa, Message-ID: <41E9E5E0.FB41E145@teksavvy.com>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:I > Both are "open" and comply to many (dejure/defacto and UNIX) standards.i  F HP may continue to add the unwanted "open" word to VMS, but VMS is notH "open" by today's standards. It no longer has the POSIX application thatH gave it claim to the early 1990s definition of "open". (and although VMSE engineers are moving towards giving VMS more unix compatibility, veryi littoe of VMS is open sourced.  D If HP wanted VMS to be "open", they'd start by open sourcing all the0 components that they're not developping anymore.    O ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----rS http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 NewsgroupstE ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---c   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:42:19 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> Subject: Re: [OT] To Paul Sturep, Message-ID: <34tri2F4e5i5jU1@individual.net>   Didier Morandi wrote:k
 > Hi Paul, > 4 > Could you send me your current email address, pls? > Tx.  >  > D. >   > firstname.lastname@freesurf.fr >  Done.i  - And a belated Happy New Year to all in c.o.v.d   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.031 ************************