1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 14 Jul 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 390       Contents: Blackberry & VMS mail/MX Re: Blackberry & VMS mail/MX Re: Blackberry & VMS mail/MX For Sale: 32CPU GS320  Re: Hobbyist VAX DECwrite? Re: Hobbyist VAX DECwrite? Re: Hobbyist VAX DECwrite? Re: MONO (.net for UNIX) Re: MONO (.net for UNIX) Re: MONO (.net for UNIX) Re: MONO (.net for UNIX)0 NCP logging files - require help extracting data openVMS boot problem Re: openVMS boot problem Re: openVMS boot problem Re: openVMS boot problem Re: openVMS boot problem Re: openVMS boot problem( Re: Response issues on GS1280, VMS 7.3-2& Re: Show all files with empty filename& Re: Show all files with empty filename& Re: Show all files with empty filename& Re: Show all files with empty filename* Re: Top Intel architect flees coop for AMD  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:03:13 +0100 0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>! Subject: Blackberry & VMS mail/MX 4 Message-ID: <db5681$b7v$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>  * The subject says it all - is it feasible ?? I found mention of Blackberry using POP or IMAP, but no detail. E All the detail was around their Enterprise Server plugin to Exchange.   K Can I serve blackberries from our VMSmail / MX setup, or is it impossible ?    Thanks Chris    ------------------------------   Date: 14 JUL 2005 10:08:24 GMT4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)% Subject: Re: Blackberry & VMS mail/MX 6 Message-ID: <14JUL05.10082457@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>  + In a previous article, Chris Sharman wrote: , ->The subject says it all - is it feasible ?A ->I found mention of Blackberry using POP or IMAP, but no detail. G ->All the detail was around their Enterprise Server plugin to Exchange.  ->  M ->Can I serve blackberries from our VMSmail / MX setup, or is it impossible ?    Basically, no.  H The following two recent threads on info-pmdf may answer your questions:  C <http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=blackberry+pmdf+imap&hl=en>   D Personally, our staff here wish these things never existed. They are support sinks.   --G -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison 8 --                 karcher.cutthespam@waisman.wisc.edu     ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:10:22 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> % Subject: Re: Blackberry & VMS mail/MX , Message-ID: <42D69C7B.7CE4D657@teksavvy.com>   Chris Sharman wrote: > , > The subject says it all - is it feasible ?A > I found mention of Blackberry using POP or IMAP, but no detail. G > All the detail was around their Enterprise Server plugin to Exchange.   M Balckberry works on a push principle. The plugin on the server actually sends F the email to your blackberry as well a leave it on your office system.  M I think that RIM does allow someone to develop according to their proprietary M protocol.  From what I understand, the blackberry registers itself and its IP L address with a server and keeps an open connection, so that when there is an5 incoming email, the server knows where to send it to.   K Some mobile phone networks offer blackberry support (their own server). You  need to talk to them.    ------------------------------   Date: 14 Jul 2005 12:49:02 GMT$ From: Guy Coates <gmpc@sanger.ac.uk> Subject: For Sale: 32CPU GS320B Message-ID: <slrnddcnop.7et.gmpc@guylaptop..internal.sanger.ac.uk>   Hi,     We have a 32 CPU GS320 for sale.   Specs: 32x 1.0 Ghz EV68 CPUs  192GB of memory. 14x 36G internal scsi disks  4x fibre-channel cards.   4 The machine  has a full maintainance record from HP.  : We are open to any reasonable offers, but you will have to' arrange your own  shipping from the UK.    Cheers,    Guy    --  ( Dr Guy Coates,  Informatics System GroupE The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1HH, UK  Tel: +44 (0)1223 834244 ex 6925  Fax: +44 (0)1223 494919    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:50:07 +0200  From: S <soterroatyahoodotcom># Subject: Re: Hobbyist VAX DECwrite? $ Message-ID: <42d67b9c@news1.ethz.ch>   gl@decadence.it wrote:E > I am looking for VAX DECwrite for which I already have the hobbyist 
 > license.  I Really? I didn't even know there's a hobbyist licence for DECWrite (so I    was asked to pay >1000$ for it).H Is there any particular reason you want that particular editor? I would + direct you otherwise to the Netscape suite.    S    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:27:27 GMT ) From: "gl@decadence.it" <gl@decadence.it> # Subject: Re: Hobbyist VAX DECwrite? 9 Message-ID: <pan.2005.07.14.16.27.26.837512@decadence.it>   1 Il Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:50:07 +0200, S ha scritto: K > Really? I didn't even know there's a hobbyist licence for DECWrite (so I  " > was asked to pay >1000$ for it).   Yes, there is.0 You could register on openvmshobbyist.com for...' "OpenVMS Layered Products (104 PAK's!)"   J > Is there any particular reason you want that particular editor? I would - > direct you otherwise to the Netscape suite.   E since it's a hobby, I'd like to try something I don't already know :) C I could only find Netscape Navigator 3.03 Gold (on HP.com and other C OVMS/VAX-related sites) and Navigator doesn't include the Composer.   6 someone dropped the info required in email, thanks! :)   bye  gl :)    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:20:05 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: Hobbyist VAX DECwrite? + Message-ID: <42D69EC2.9F23EC1@teksavvy.com>    "gl@decadence.it" wrote:E > I am looking for VAX DECwrite for which I already have the hobbyist 2 > license. Where could I find (maybe download) it?    = Send me an email , remove tye obvious spam counter measures.    ' What version of VMS are you running ?     K I can find decwrite for 7.2 and before (full function), or decwrite for 7.3 9 (crippled due to removal of display postscript from VMS).    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:06:33 +0200 6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>! Subject: Re: MONO (.net for UNIX) ) Message-ID: <42D60EF9.9030503@vajhoej.dk>    David J Dachtera wrote: J > The BASIC Plus "object" code was easily de-compilable, thus allowing for% > source changes and re"compilation".   . Both Java and .NET are very easy to decompile.  2 That is more or less required by the functionality
 they provide.   H >>This doesn't address issues of performance & funtionality, nor is it aH >>comparison or discussion of the relative merits of J2EE vs. .NET, it'sM >>simply a statement of how the bugger works.  It's just Microsoft's clone of M >>Java & the JVM created out of an unwillingness to license Java from Sun and J >>Microsoft's inability to not be in the driver's seat in terms of how the' >>development of Java itself continues.  > F > ...thus allowing M$ to dontinue to dictate de-facto (most people sayD > "industry") standards unilaterally without going through the usual- > channels (the recognized standards bodies).   7 At least on paper Java is not standardized but .NET is.   A In the real world SUN has created its own standard body (the JCP) 8 and the .NET standard is just a small subset of MS .NET.   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Jul 2005 12:02:59 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)! Subject: Re: MONO (.net for UNIX) + Message-ID: <3jn2jjFqvgh4U1@individual.net>   + In article <42D5BBE5.3B51EF73@comcast.net>, 5 	David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:  > Chuck Chopp wrote: >>   >> Main, Kerry wrote:  >>  G >> > Does Mono provide this capability i.e. develop in traditional .Net K >> > environment and then allow the run times to be copied / run in QA/Prod  >> > UNIX environments?  >>  & >> In a nutshell, the answer is "yes". >>  I >> Microsoft's .NET application platform is nothing more than a series of I >> language compilers all generating code for a common back-end - the CLR N >> [Common Language Run-time].  The CLR is Microsoft's answer to Sun's JVM forO >> Java.  As with Java, you develop once and then deploy the byte-code compiler O >> output to other systems on which a virtual machine of some sort will process K >> the byte-code and execute the instructions it contains.  MONO is nothing K >> more than a port of the .NET CLR over to Unix/Linux platforms.  Once you O >> have a working CLR that provides all of the underpinnings necessary for .NET G >> apps to be executed, you can then deploy those .NET apps over to any ' >> platform on which the CLR functions.  > 5 > Why does that sound like "BASIC Plus" for Windows?    C Actually, as I have been telling people around here ever since they B jumped on the JAVA bandwagon, it's just the UCSD P-machine conceptD re-heated and served as leftovers.  Not a bad thing, just not nearly@ as innovative as the JAVA advocates would have everyone believe.  I >                                                     ...or semi-compiled G > interpretive languages like "SIBOL" (a DIBOL emulator for UN*X that I ! > once saw back in the mid-80's)?  > J > The BASIC Plus "object" code was easily de-compilable, thus allowing for% > source changes and re"compilation".   D I wasn't so sure it was "compiled" really.  I thought it was basiclyI syntax checked and tokenized so that all that was left to the interpretor I was execution.  Otherwise, there really is no way to de-compile a program I as more than one construct can generate the same object code (at least in . any kind of a reasonable inteligent compiler).   > I >> This doesn't address issues of performance & funtionality, nor is it a I >> comparison or discussion of the relative merits of J2EE vs. .NET, it's N >> simply a statement of how the bugger works.  It's just Microsoft's clone ofN >> Java & the JVM created out of an unwillingness to license Java from Sun andK >> Microsoft's inability to not be in the driver's seat in terms of how the ( >> development of Java itself continues. > F > ...thus allowing M$ to dontinue to dictate de-facto (most people sayD > "industry") standards unilaterally without going through the usual- > channels (the recognized standards bodies).  >   F Which is different from JAVA (proprietary to SUN and not controlled byG any standards body, not that I place high value on that concept anyway)  how?   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:13:57 +0200 6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>! Subject: Re: MONO (.net for UNIX) ) Message-ID: <42D68F45.1090001@vajhoej.dk>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:+ > In article <42D60EF9.9030503@vajhoej.dk>, ( > 	Arne Vajhj <arne@vajhoej.dk> writes: >>David J Dachtera wrote: K >>>The BASIC Plus "object" code was easily de-compilable, thus allowing for & >>>source changes and re"compilation". >>0 >>Both Java and .NET are very easy to decompile. > D > Back to source?  Or to some human readable form of the Byte Codes?  2 Back to rater nice looking Java or C# source code.  E > I can't see how they would be any more de-compilable than any other  > language/program.   6 Because Java byte code and MSIL is relative high level  and contains a lot of meta data.  4 >>That is more or less required by the functionality >>they provide.  > H > Why?  The Byte Code is machine language and the VM is a pseudo-machineE > that runs it.  Other than an added layer of abstraction intended to ? > hide the real hardware, how is it different from native code?    A lot !   @ It is not in any way comparable to an .OBJ file. It is more like' a combination of the .H and .OBJ files.   8 You can take a Java .class/.jar file or a .NET .dll file< and have your class inherit from a class in it. It obviously; requires necesarry information about class to be present in  .class/.jar/.dll.   @ You can both in Java and in .NET get a object reference (basicly? a void*) and via reflection determine class, methods, values of = fields etc.. It requires even more information to be present.   9 >>At least on paper Java is not standardized but .NET is.  > C > Yes, but how much of the .NET that is out there is "standard" and  > how much is MS?  > C >>In the real world SUN has created its own standard body (the JCP) : >>and the .NET standard is just a small subset of MS .NET. > G > And in the real world both, as implemented and used, are proprietary.   1 At least not portable in the same way as Java is.    Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Jul 2005 17:00:57 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)! Subject: Re: MONO (.net for UNIX) + Message-ID: <3jnk29Fr1o9eU1@individual.net>   ) In article <42D68F45.1090001@vajhoej.dk>, & 	Arne Vajhj <arne@vajhoej.dk> writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote:, >> In article <42D60EF9.9030503@vajhoej.dk>,) >> 	Arne Vajhj <arne@vajhoej.dk> writes:  >>>David J Dachtera wrote:L >>>>The BASIC Plus "object" code was easily de-compilable, thus allowing for' >>>>source changes and re"compilation".  >>> 1 >>>Both Java and .NET are very easy to decompile.  >>  E >> Back to source?  Or to some human readable form of the Byte Codes?  > 4 > Back to rater nice looking Java or C# source code.  B I see, but not necessarily back to the original source.  OK, I can	 buy that.    > F >> I can't see how they would be any more de-compilable than any other >> language/program. > 8 > Because Java byte code and MSIL is relative high level" > and contains a lot of meta data.  * I see, P-machine with added innefficiency.   > 5 >>>That is more or less required by the functionality  >>>they provide. >>  I >> Why?  The Byte Code is machine language and the VM is a pseudo-machine F >> that runs it.  Other than an added layer of abstraction intended to@ >> hide the real hardware, how is it different from native code? > 	 > A lot !  > B > It is not in any way comparable to an .OBJ file. It is more like) > a combination of the .H and .OBJ files.  > : > You can take a Java .class/.jar file or a .NET .dll file> > and have your class inherit from a class in it. It obviously= > requires necesarry information about class to be present in  > .class/.jar/.dll.  > B > You can both in Java and in .NET get a object reference (basiclyA > a void*) and via reflection determine class, methods, values of ? > fields etc.. It requires even more information to be present.   A So, if all this information is required and contained in the part > you distribute, how does this effect a business distributing a? product?  Seems anyone who get their hands on it would have all ? the source and could pretty much eliminate the need to ever buy  more than copy.    > : >>>At least on paper Java is not standardized but .NET is. >>  D >> Yes, but how much of the .NET that is out there is "standard" and >> how much is MS? >>  D >>>In the real world SUN has created its own standard body (the JCP); >>>and the .NET standard is just a small subset of MS .NET.  >>  H >> And in the real world both, as implemented and used, are proprietary. > 3 > At least not portable in the same way as Java is.   F Well, the standard version probably is, but one knows how much one can0 trust the Microsoft parts to remain common.  :-)   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2005 03:41:33 -0700( From: "Lawrie" <stroker_ace@hotmail.com>9 Subject: NCP logging files - require help extracting data C Message-ID: <1121337693.623647.132070@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    Hi,   2 I have a whole host of binary files produced using  * $ MC NCP set logging file name 'file_name'  C I would like to convert these files into a human readable format so E that I can analyse the contents. It seems that VMS does not provide a C mechanism for doing this. Can anyone point me in the direction of a 9 tool convert these binaries into a human readable format?     C {I am aware that I can capture the stats in textual format with the  command   , $MC NCP set logging console name 'file_name'  G but unfortunately I need to analyse old stats, not newly captured ones}    Regards    Lawrie   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:10:39 +0200  From: Emil <emilwpSP@AMo2.pl>  Subject: openVMS boot problem + Message-ID: <db56ks$r08$1@achot.icm.edu.pl>    Hello everybody,D I have a problem with DEC Alpha station 255 233MHz, namely it won't B boot. I'm complete newbe to VMS and I do not know what to do. The H computer was working some time ago and it was not used since than, so I & have no idea what could have happened.* Here is how it works (or rather does not):H When I turn it on it stops on a clear blue screen with blinking cursor, - after I press a key the prompt shows up ">>>" $ I press "b" for boot and I get this:   (boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags 0,0)) block 0 of dka0.... is a valid boot block   reading 1004 blocks from dka0... bootstrap code read in- base=1f2000, image_start=0, image_bytes=7d800  initializing HWRPB at 2000! initializing page table at 1e4000  initializing machine state# setting affinity to the primary CPU  jumping to bootstrap code   & ...and that's it nothing more happens.  D I'm pretty sure (not 100%) there is openVMS v.6... installed on the I machine. I tried show config at the prompt and here is the config, maybe  " it tells you something about that:   SRM Console v6.0-943 Show_arc: ARC console not found 0 PALcode: VMSPALcode V5.53-5, OSF PALcode V1.46-1 Serial Rom: V1.11 
 Diag Rom V1.5 3 ...and than processor, memory, PCI Bus, ISA devices   G does anyone have an idea what can I do to check what's wrong and can I    fix it with your help, possibly.   regards  Emil   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:02:52 +0000 (UTC) < From: gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann)! Subject: Re: openVMS boot problem ) Message-ID: <db5gos$qbl$1@news.BelWue.DE>   K In article <db56ks$r08$1@achot.icm.edu.pl>, Emil <emilwpSP@AMo2.pl> writes:  >Hello everybody, E >I have a problem with DEC Alpha station 255 233MHz, namely it won't  C >boot. I'm complete newbe to VMS and I do not know what to do. The  I >computer was working some time ago and it was not used since than, so I  ' >have no idea what could have happened. + >Here is how it works (or rather does not): I >When I turn it on it stops on a clear blue screen with blinking cursor,  . >after I press a key the prompt shows up ">>>"% >I press "b" for boot and I get this:  >  >(boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags 0,0) * >block 0 of dka0.... is a valid boot block! >reading 1004 blocks from dka0...  >bootstrap code read in . >base=1f2000, image_start=0, image_bytes=7d800 >initializing HWRPB at 2000 " >initializing page table at 1e4000 >initializing machine state $ >setting affinity to the primary CPU >jumping to bootstrap code > ( >....and that's it nothing more happens. > E >I'm pretty sure (not 100%) there is openVMS v.6... installed on the  J >machine. I tried show config at the prompt and here is the config, maybe # >it tells you something about that:  >  >SRM Console v6.0-943   >Show_arc: ARC console not found1 >PALcode: VMSPALcode V5.53-5, OSF PALcode V1.46-1  >Serial Rom: V1.11 >Diag Rom V1.55 >....and than processor, memory, PCI Bus, ISA devices  > H >does anyone have an idea what can I do to check what's wrong and can I ! >fix it with your help, possibly.    Try     boot -fl 0,1    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:23:03 +0300 4 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com>! Subject: Re: openVMS boot problem & Message-ID: <42D67547.7ED9927E@hp.com>   Emil wrote:  >  > Hello everybody,E > I have a problem with DEC Alpha station 255 233MHz, namely it won't C > boot. I'm complete newbe to VMS and I do not know what to do. The I > computer was working some time ago and it was not used since than, so I ( > have no idea what could have happened., > Here is how it works (or rather does not):I > When I turn it on it stops on a clear blue screen with blinking cursor, / > after I press a key the prompt shows up ">>>" & > I press "b" for boot and I get this: >   > (boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags 0,0)+ > block 0 of dka0.... is a valid boot block " > reading 1004 blocks from dka0... > bootstrap code read in/ > base=1f2000, image_start=0, image_bytes=7d800  > initializing HWRPB at 2000# > initializing page table at 1e4000  > initializing machine state% > setting affinity to the primary CPU  > jumping to bootstrap code  > ( > ...and that's it nothing more happens. > E > I'm pretty sure (not 100%) there is openVMS v.6... installed on the J > machine. I tried show config at the prompt and here is the config, maybe$ > it tells you something about that: >  > SRM Console v6.0-943! > Show_arc: ARC console not found 2 > PALcode: VMSPALcode V5.53-5, OSF PALcode V1.46-1 > Serial Rom: V1.11  > Diag Rom V1.5 5 > ...and than processor, memory, PCI Bus, ISA devices  > H > does anyone have an idea what can I do to check what's wrong and can I" > fix it with your help, possibly. > 	 > regards  > Emil  D Try getting hold of an OpenVMS V6.2 bootable CD, and boot from that.E If it boots to completion you can be pretty sure that the contents of B your disk (dka0 in your example) are scrozzeled somewhere, and the? easiest way out is (probably) to re-install OpenVMS (follow the ? documentation: see the online Upgrade and Installation Manual.)   
 Good luck!   Mike --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:03:48 GMT & From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com>! Subject: Re: openVMS boot problem 2 Message-ID: <8huBe.8522$QZ1.2805@news.cpqcorp.net>   Emil wrote:    > I > does anyone have an idea what can I do to check what's wrong and can I  " > fix it with your help, possibly. > 	 > regards  > Emil   You can try booting with   -fl 0,30000   E That gets the boot sequence to print out all sorts of diagnostic and  F progress messages.  Seeing the tail of that output might offer a clue.   --   John Reagan / HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project Leader  Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:31:49 -0700  From: Z <Z@no.spam> ! Subject: Re: openVMS boot problem + Message-ID: <FzvBe.11447$rX7.3853@fe06.lga>    Emil wrote:  > Hello everybody,F > I have a problem with DEC Alpha station 255 233MHz, namely it won't D > boot. I'm complete newbe to VMS and I do not know what to do. The J > computer was working some time ago and it was not used since than, so I ( > have no idea what could have happened., > Here is how it works (or rather does not):J > When I turn it on it stops on a clear blue screen with blinking cursor, / > after I press a key the prompt shows up ">>>" & > I press "b" for boot and I get this: >   > (boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags 0,0)+ > block 0 of dka0.... is a valid boot block " > reading 1004 blocks from dka0... > bootstrap code read in/ > base=1f2000, image_start=0, image_bytes=7d800  > initializing HWRPB at 2000# > initializing page table at 1e4000  > initializing machine state% > setting affinity to the primary CPU  > jumping to bootstrap code  > ( > ...and that's it nothing more happens.  I Hmmm ... are you sure (eg: listen for activity on the system disk) or is  . it that nothing more is written to the screen?  G Have you tried  SET CONSOLE SERIAL/GRAPHICS  (for whichever one you're   using)  from the > prompt?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:53:51 -0500 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> ! Subject: Re: openVMS boot problem + Message-ID: <3jnjk3Fq9a5oU1@individual.net>    Mike Rechtman wrote:
 > Emil wrote:  >  >>Hello everybody,E >>I have a problem with DEC Alpha station 255 233MHz, namely it won't C >>boot. I'm complete newbe to VMS and I do not know what to do. The I >>computer was working some time ago and it was not used since than, so I ( >>have no idea what could have happened., >>Here is how it works (or rather does not):I >>When I turn it on it stops on a clear blue screen with blinking cursor, / >>after I press a key the prompt shows up ">>>" & >>I press "b" for boot and I get this: >>  >>(boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags 0,0)+ >>block 0 of dka0.... is a valid boot block " >>reading 1004 blocks from dka0... >>bootstrap code read in/ >>base=1f2000, image_start=0, image_bytes=7d800  >>initializing HWRPB at 2000# >>initializing page table at 1e4000  >>initializing machine state% >>setting affinity to the primary CPU  >>jumping to bootstrap code  >>( >>...and that's it nothing more happens. >>E >>I'm pretty sure (not 100%) there is openVMS v.6... installed on the J >>machine. I tried show config at the prompt and here is the config, maybe$ >>it tells you something about that: >> >>SRM Console v6.0-943! >>Show_arc: ARC console not found 2 >>PALcode: VMSPALcode V5.53-5, OSF PALcode V1.46-1 >>Serial Rom: V1.11  >>Diag Rom V1.5 5 >>...and than processor, memory, PCI Bus, ISA devices  >>H >>does anyone have an idea what can I do to check what's wrong and can I" >>fix it with your help, possibly. >>	 >>regards  >>Emil >  > F > Try getting hold of an OpenVMS V6.2 bootable CD, and boot from that.G > If it boots to completion you can be pretty sure that the contents of D > your disk (dka0 in your example) are scrozzeled somewhere, and theA > easiest way out is (probably) to re-install OpenVMS (follow the A > documentation: see the online Upgrade and Installation Manual.)  >  > Good luck! >  > Mike  = What is the minimum version required for an AlphaStation 255?   ! I thought it was higher than 6.2.    --  G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- $ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  B Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com    Fax: 817-237-3074   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:48:12 -0400 $ From: "Hein" <hein.nomail@hp.nomail>1 Subject: Re: Response issues on GS1280, VMS 7.3-2 , Message-ID: <42d634e2$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  0 "Lee" <lytmah@telusplanet.net> wrote in message % news:bTWAe.89003$wr.74721@clgrps12... 8 > I'm experiencing response problem on a GS1280 cluster.I > OpenVMS V7.3-2  on node C  12-JUL-2005 14:29:21.52  Uptime  40 22:08:12 I >   Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts   > Pages I > 23A009B2 Epoch           SUSP     2101415952   0 14:16:04.80      7929   > 8079  + That Epoch process does a good few IOs huh? L I suppose it has always done so, without problem, but it may warrant review.K Is it like a mailbox watcher, resumed when a message is put in the mailbox? G I rarely see suspend being used, but more often see $HIBER/$WAKE which   allows AST delivery.J Again, I am sure it has worked fine like this for years, but maybe better  solutions are available.G http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/5841/5841pro_015.html#suspend_sec       : > Heres the status from the four nodes (from MONITOR IO).I >                                    CUR        AVE        MIN        MAX I > Log Name Translation Rate       198.66     906.97       0.00    9845.33 I > Log Name Translation Rate      3902.00    3896.64       0.00   15286.00 I > Log Name Translation Rate      2077.00    1341.27       0.00   13067.33 I > Log Name Translation Rate      1690.66     621.39       0.00    3901.33   L That's pretty intense. I often see logical name translations as a component @ to heavier operations like a file open or assign system service.I I'm sure it worked well enough for now, but again maybe it is time for a  H review as to whether any of those translation results can not be cached H without changing the application behaviour. Maybe an advance cache that J knows to look at a flag or lock to realize that a new translation must be A done? Maybe files can be left open, or at least left open longer?   D > On the ES45s, I could execute a procedure containing 1000 logical@ > name translations in a split second.  On the GS1280 nodes, the5 > same procedure requires from several to 10 seconds.   0 That may well be the most important observation.< Did some tables grow? A hashing scheme running out of range?L Any OpenVMS SYSGEN params in this space? But then you already indicated all  was large on the 1280's    fwiw,  Hein.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:18:50 +0200 ( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>/ Subject: Re: Show all files with empty filename 3 Message-ID: <000b01c5884c$aa0e19b0$994614ac@wat153>    Hello,  F the /EXCLUDE=%* does function. But I think, that the defaulting of the DIRECTORY command is strange.   0 	$ DIR .	 shows only files with a blank filetype. 	$ DIR .* shows all files within the directory  F If  SYS$DISK:[]*.*;* where the default filespecification, why does theF first command work correct (for me, because I get all files with blank typ field)?    TIA and best regards R. Wingert    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2005 08:11:13 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org/ Subject: Re: Show all files with empty filename 3 Message-ID: <T4lxdI4tJesG@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <1121291274.446544.14920@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "WhoDat?" <whohe@whoever.com> writes:! > briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: e >> In article <3jkos1Fqm4ciU1@individual.net>, "Peter Weaver" <newsgroup@weaverconsulting.ca> writes:  >> > Rudolf Wingert wrote:F >> >> I would like to see all files without an filename within OpenVMSL >> >> 7.3[-1]. With DIR it is impossible. If I use $DIR [*...].*, I will seeK >> >> all files of the disk. Also is there a strange behavior if you delete B >> >> files (e.g. $DEL hugo.*;*) and there is no filetyp (error in9 >> >> filenamespecification). Is this a bug or a feature?  > 	 > <snips>  >> >0 >> > $ create .x ! No filename, but an extension
 >> >  Exit2 >> > $ create x. ! no extension but has a filename
 >> >  ExitL >> > $ dir .* ! Should only show .X (IMHO, but someone will tell me that MHO$ >> > is wrong), but shows both files >>I >> RMS has no way to distinguish between a blank file name and an omitted N >> file name.  Since DIR uses a default file specification of SYS$DISK:[]*.*;*M >> a missing file name is replaced with the wild card taken from the default.  >>I >> A blank file name (which is what you want) would override the default. ) >> But there's no syntax to specify that.  > F > Yes, that's the way it's always worked, and it must continue to work  > that way but considering that: >  > $ dir [].  > $ dir [].; >  > does NOT default to  >  > $ dir []*.*;*  > but to > $ dir []*.<blank>;*  > A > the blank-file-name=* substition seems like a very weird design > > decision, especially since files with blank names can exist.  A The presence of a blank file extension is denoted by the presence  of the dot.   J The presence of a blank file version (interpreted as "most recent version): is denoted by the presence of a semicolon or a second dot.  M The presence of a blank directory (interpreted as "current default directory) 7 is denoted by the presence of square or angle brackets.   F A blank device name is not meaningful, so the presence of a colon with, nothing in front of it is taken as an error.  K I've never had much call to use a blank node name.  Brief testing indicates 6 that a double-colon with no node name works just fine.  I But there's no punctuation associated with the file name.  So there is no K syntactic clue to tell us whether the file name is missing or intentionally  blank.   	John Briggs   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Jul 2005 08:18:49 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org/ Subject: Re: Show all files with empty filename 3 Message-ID: <fWsPOfFKb8Dw@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ^ In article <000b01c5884c$aa0e19b0$994614ac@wat153>, "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> writes: > Hello, > H > the /EXCLUDE=%* does function. But I think, that the defaulting of the > DIRECTORY command is strange.  > 2 > 	$ DIR .	 shows only files with a blank filetype0 > 	$ DIR .* shows all files within the directory > H > If  SYS$DISK:[]*.*;* where the default filespecification, why does theH > first command work correct (for me, because I get all files with blank
 > typ field)?   G The presence of the dot by itself in the first file specification means C that the file extension (or file type as you call it) is filled in.   = Because it is filled in, the ".*" portion of the default file D default file specification is not called into action.  The resulting/ file specification (from applying defaults) is:    SYS$DISK:[]*.;*   . You get all files with a blank file extension.  @ The presence of a dot followed by an asterisk in the second fileG specification means that the file extension is filled in as a wildcard.   G Again, the ".*" portion of the default file specification is not called D upon.  The resulting file specification (from applying defaults) is:   SYS$DISK:[]*.*;*  C And we get all files in the current directory.  Just as if we'd not ' bothered to specify the file extension.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:17:25 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> / Subject: Re: Show all files with empty filename , Message-ID: <42D69E22.11CA55C9@teksavvy.com>   briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: C > The presence of a blank file extension is denoted by the presence 
 > of the dot.  > L > The presence of a blank file version (interpreted as "most recent version)< > is denoted by the presence of a semicolon or a second dot.     I would word it differently:  I If a file specification begins with a dot, it means that no file name was 
 supplied. L If there is nothing between the dot and the semicolon, it means that no file extension was suppliedV If there is nothing after the semicolon, it means that no file extension was supplied.  N Depending on the file operation, the file system will detect which portions ofJ the file specification were not supplied and automatically apply defaults,> based on current directory, or previously supplied file names.  
 for instance:   G copy chocolate.pastry .cake will result in chocolate.cake being created   K So you must tell VMS that you activelly supplied a blank portion so that it C uses that blank portion instead of thinking it was not supplied and : automatically fill it in for you with applicable defaults.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:20:06 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG3 Subject: Re: Top Intel architect flees coop for AMD 0 Message-ID: <00A46BCC.ECA30296@SendSpamHere.ORG>  Z In article <42d5a9eb$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes:! >VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: A >> In article <YqUAe.8365$vD.6428@news.cpqcorp.net>, Keith Parris ) >> <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> writes:  >>> Tom Linden wrote: . >>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24500+ >>>> Top Intel architect flees coop for AMD  >>> 3 >>> It's not unusual for folks to change companies.  >>G >> No it's not.  However, at issue is whether or not they will get sued  >> by their H >> scum-bucket fuckwit code thieving histrionic schmuck bastards without
 >> a heartD >> or a soul former employer and be made to miss their own borther's >> funeral forE >> sake of returning the equivalent of an EDT keypad reference chart!  >  >  >Hmmm. Is there a story there?   Yeah... send a private email.    --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.390 ************************