1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 19 Jul 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 400       Contents:! Re: Congratulations to Ed Wilts ! ! Re: Congratulations to Ed Wilts ! % Re: Help to find X25 Layered Packages  HP layoffs: 14,500 Keyboards again  Re: Keyboards again  Re: Keyboards again D Re: Now the UK Has it's own date in the history of al quiada attacksD Re: Now the UK Has it's own date in the history of al quiada attacks. Selling: ADIC Scalar 1000 w/8 SuperDLT1 Drives Re: SET HOST 0 [/LOG] $ Re: Symbol vector index is too large  Trolltech Qt Library for OpenVMS$ Re: Trolltech Qt Library for OpenVMS  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 19 Jul 2005 16:39:30 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com * Subject: Re: Congratulations to Ed Wilts !, Message-ID: <dbjac201n5p@enews3.newsguy.com>    Roy Omond <Roy@omond.net> wrote: > Ed Wilts wrote:   ( > > Romeo> say f$getsyi("cluster_ftime") > > 30-MAY-1999 07:28:07.05  > >  > > 'nuff said.   0 > C'mon, Ed !  You've just got to participate in > the uptimes project :-)   J Something tells me he just did. :^)  WVNETcluster owned by "mosaic"  3483d 7h 12m  I The one that scares me is the "Windows .NET Server" up for 745 days, that 3 box has to be missing a lot of MS security patches!   # > I'm sure there are others too ...   K Well, if I was, I'd be in 38th place.  The downside is in a few days when I L cross 365 days I'm going to have to take the system down for some electricalK work that needs to be done :^(  This is of course assuming the heat doesn't G take it out first (I was wondering if I'd have to shut down yesterday).    			Zane    ------------------------------   Date: 19 Jul 2005 17:13:04 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)* Subject: Re: Congratulations to Ed Wilts !+ Message-ID: <3k4ql0Fsl9emU1@individual.net>   , In article <dbjac201n5p@enews3.newsguy.com>, 	healyzh@aracnet.com writes: >  > K > The one that scares me is the "Windows .NET Server" up for 745 days, that 5 > box has to be missing a lot of MS security patches!   * Maybe it's a cluster with rolling updates!   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 03:54:42 -0700 From: dooleys@snowy.net.au. Subject: Re: Help to find X25 Layered PackagesC Message-ID: <1121770482.618234.213590@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   < afaik the vax psi stuff was incorporated into decnet phase 57 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/6497/6497pro.html  Phil   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:46:37 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: HP layoffs: 14,500 , Message-ID: <42DD2E6A.A8A14302@teksavvy.com>  M Isn't amazing how a corporation always has exact round numbers when they need  to cut staff ?    K It isn't "after carfule due diligence, we have discobered we can cut 14,437 M jobs without affecting productivitry", it is "we'll cut 14,500" which is just L a round number down from the leaked 15,000 number that had been circulating,> maijng the news appear less bad than people had anticipated...   HP's press release is at: 9 http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2005/050719a.html   J The good news is that Winkler finally goes. The centralised sales group isM disolved and each business unit now responsible for sales, with one executive  VP in charge of overseeing it:K Cathy Lyons, a 26-year HP executive, was named executive vice president and  chief marketing officer     N Hurd says that most cust will come from corporate support (IT, accounting etc)Q and r&d won't be affected. However, voluntary severance will be available to all.   [ HP'd headcount apparently had stayed level since the integration of Compaq was "completed".   K It would be interesting to hear from the VMS group to see how they perceive - this announcement and if it will affect them.    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 08:13:31 -0700; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com>  Subject: Keyboards againB Message-ID: <1121786011.131240.74840@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>  D Would anyone have a clue as to why a PWS 500 would work fine with anF LK450-AA when talking to the SRM console but once DECWindows starts itB totally fails to work until it's reset?  Once the DECWindows loginD screen appears NOTHING at all works. The Caps Lock key doesn't causeE the LED to toggle, F18 doesn't cause the KVM switch to activate. Only F when the PWS is halted and reset (and some magical code is sent to theG keyboard) does the LK450 come back alive.  On the other hand a LK461-A2 @ works okay (I just hate the feel of it and love the LK450).  Any	 thoughts?    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:34:34 -0400 - From: William Webb <william.w.webb@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: Keyboards again7 Message-ID: <8660a3a105071908341eb85b3e@mail.gmail.com>   7 On 19 Jul 2005 08:13:31 -0700, johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com ! <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> wrote: F > Would anyone have a clue as to why a PWS 500 would work fine with anH > LK450-AA when talking to the SRM console but once DECWindows starts itD > totally fails to work until it's reset?  Once the DECWindows loginF > screen appears NOTHING at all works. The Caps Lock key doesn't causeG > the LED to toggle, F18 doesn't cause the KVM switch to activate. Only H > when the PWS is halted and reset (and some magical code is sent to theI > keyboard) does the LK450 come back alive.  On the other hand a LK461-A2 B > works okay (I just hate the feel of it and love the LK450).  Any > thoughts?  >=20 >=20G The problem might lie with the three letter acronym in your post:  KVM.   A The historical record of this newsgroup is replete with extensive B discussions concerning which switches work with which machines, or2 not, with data mostly obtained by trial-and-error.  L Do you have the same problem when the keyboard is directly connected to the=  PWS?    WWWebb   --=20 C NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  correspondence. C All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for 8 services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at# http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:23:03 -0700 * From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> Subject: Re: Keyboards again2 Message-ID: <U4adna6eQctFh0DfRVn-1g@mpowercom.net>  , <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> wrote in message < news:1121786011.131240.74840@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...0 >  F18 doesn't cause the KVM switch to activate. > L Try the keyboard without going through a KVM switch.  In general I've found : LK keyboards work unreliably when connected through a KVM.   Jack Peacock     ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:06:27 -0400 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>M Subject: Re: Now the UK Has it's own date in the history of al quiada attacks = Message-ID: <x7mdnRa794_pO0HfRVn-3w@metrocastcablevision.com>    mejercit@hotmail.com wrote:  >  > JF Mezei wrote:  >  >>WhoDat? wrote: >>F >>>But, currently it's the Radical Muslims who are committing the most0 >>>violent acts of terror on a world-wide scale. >>- >>I guess you have a different point of view.  >>O >>The USA/UK/Australia invaded Iraq unnecessarily and illegally and have killed > >>over 15,000 innocent Iraqis, as well as over 1700 americans. > C >    Iraq was in violation of a ceasefire it signed to end a war it 
 > started.  H Exactly what part of the fact that whether that was the case, and if so I what to do about it, was not the U.S.'s prerogative to determine but the  G U.N.'s has managed to escape your attention for the past several years?   D The invasion of Iraq was unnecessary by the very criteria that Bush F himself advanced in order to obtain authorization from the U.S. House I and Senate for potential initiation of hostilities - because, of course,  H the weapons inspectors were back in place and doing precisely what that I authorization had been intended to cause them to be able to do.  And the  = many lame additional pretexts which Bush attempted to use as  G justification had been knocked down one by one almost as quickly as he  ; tried to prop them up - most of them prior to the invasion.   B The invasion of Iraq was illegal under the U.N. charter (and thus I international law) because Iraq posed no imminent threat to us or to our  G allies and no authorization had been obtained from the U.N. to invade.  I Those opposing the war had no problem understanding that well before the  I fact, and as we now know from the 'Downing Street memo' those advocating  F it had no problem understanding it either - but went ahead anyway and I attempted (albeit with a characteristic level of incompetence comparable  H to their arrogance) to bluster their way into legitimacy with smoke and B mirrors.   Kofi Annan eventually made reference to the invasion's I illegality, but unfortunately a couple of years too late to do much good.   I Furthermore, as we ourselves have ratified the U.N. charter as a treaty,  I invading Iraq was illegal under our own law as well by virtue of Article  B VI, clause 2 of our Constitution - not that I'm holding my breath G waiting for Gonzales to bring Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, et  H al. up on charges (though some amusing situations have already occurred E where countries have had to pass special measures to keep Dubya from  5 being arrested as a war criminal if he visited them).   B Were you truly still ignorant of all this, or just a neocon shill G mouthing the party line like some wind-up toy that hasn't run down yet?    - bill   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 06:46:15 -0700$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>M Subject: Re: Now the UK Has it's own date in the history of al quiada attacks C Message-ID: <1121780775.657597.245820@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Bob Koehler wrote:\ > In article <42dc7208$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: > > O > > The mathematician said, "If a beautiful woman was standing across the room, M > > naked, and you walked 1/2 the distance between you and her with each step D > > you took across the room, mathematically you'd never reach her." > H >    Are you sure that was a mathemtician?  This sounds more like a dumbF >    blond joke.  Any mathemetician would reognize a classic case of a >    converging series.     3 If a beautiful woman were standing across the room, F naked or not, and you walked 1/2 the distance between you and her with	 each step ? you took across the room, there's something wrong with you! :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:52:58 -0400 ? From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <david@hpaq.net> 7 Subject: Selling: ADIC Scalar 1000 w/8 SuperDLT1 Drives 0 Message-ID: <11dq8bhmj3aj8c3@corp.supernews.com>  G This is the ADIC Scalar 1000 with 8 x SuperDLT1 (160/320GB) Tape Drives 
 installed. Dual Cabinet (approx 400 slots)    Tested working great   Looking for offers over $40,000    David      --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X252  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:04:34 -0500 - From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com>  Subject: Re: SET HOST 0 [/LOG]5 Message-ID: <TC8De.297$dz.202@bignews4.bellsouth.net>    Wayne wrote:I > I'm just now for the first time playing with a machine without DECnet.  N > Without thinking, I tried to do a $SET HOST 0/LOG and of course, it spanked M > me.  What's the easiest way to simulate this functionality without DECnet?  E > I ended up using Telnet and logging to a file with the VT emulator.  > E LOGGER (found in SYS$EXAMPLES:) will let you easily log a session; it  uses pseudo-terminals to do it.   6 ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/logger.zip  B BOSS is a freeware application that can be used to create multipleA logins (again via PTD$ devices) from a single login.  It can also ' log each of those sessions, if desired.    http://www.process.com/openvms/ 4 ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/boss.zip  $ There are commercial solutions, too.   Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/  goathunter@goatley.com   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 03:47:04 -0700$ From: chris_breemer@nl.compuware.com- Subject: Re: Symbol vector index is too large B Message-ID: <1121770024.794761.31500@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  @ Actually the problem is now solved. We thought customer may haveD installed an old version of our software, but it turned out they had- installed a pre-release of OpenVMS 8.2. After 7 upgrading to the release version, the problem was gone.    Thanks for your help !   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 06:10:13 -0700$ From: "Rick" <gillmores@hotmail.com>) Subject: Trolltech Qt Library for OpenVMS C Message-ID: <1121777996.933509.217570@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   G Last year there were several posts which sounded like a port of Qt (the D TrollTech GUI library) to OpenVMS was coming soon.  Does anyone knowC what happened to this project?  I have an immediate need for such a E thing, and I am willing to help support the porting effort if someone F out there is working on it, but I can't find any recent information on the progress of this project.   3 Is anyone out there still interested in Qt for VMS?    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:18:13 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>- Subject: Re: Trolltech Qt Library for OpenVMS B Message-ID: <42dd27c5$0$18018$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>   Rick wrote: I > Last year there were several posts which sounded like a port of Qt (the F > TrollTech GUI library) to OpenVMS was coming soon.  Does anyone knowE > what happened to this project?  I have an immediate need for such a G > thing, and I am willing to help support the porting effort if someone H > out there is working on it, but I can't find any recent information on > the progress of this project.  > 5 > Is anyone out there still interested in Qt for VMS?  >     > As I understand, Qt was ported to OpenVMS for the ProcessView  Browser/SCADA found at...    http://www.pvbrowser.org  C I have no idea how current this information or the alleged port is.      Please see the following URL...   9 http://www.pvbrowser.org/pvbrowser/sf/manual/index-2.html   7 "VMS: I have a port of Qt to OpenVMS (for licenses see  I http://www.trolltech.com) But for ProcessViewServer programming you need  ) nothing else than OpenVMS and cc or cxx."     C I would suggest you contact Rainer Lehrig at lehrig@t-online.de as  I indicated at the URL. It would also be interesting to hear what you find  1 out. Could you please report back to COV? Thanks.    Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.400 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2tY1=ue@4ax.com>	1043335240~0~1043291164	rec.radio.amateur.antenna/45614
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