1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 20 Jul 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 401       Contents:! Re: Congratulations to Ed Wilts !  Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 Re: Interex is Dead! Re: Keyboards again D Re: Now the UK Has it's own date in the history of al quiada attacksD Re: Now the UK Has it's own date in the history of al quiada attacks Re: Terry Shannon passed away  Re: Terry Shannon passed away  Re: Terry Shannon passed away  Re: Terry Shannon passed away / Re: VMS process priorities and system processes  [Ann] FreeVMS 0.1.8   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 13:43:40 -0700$ From: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org>* Subject: Re: Congratulations to Ed Wilts !B Message-ID: <1121805820.652858.54820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  J > > C'mon, Ed !  You've just got to participate in the uptimes project :-)  S > Something tells me he just did. :^)  WVNETcluster owned by "mosaic"  3483d 7h 12m   G That wasn't me.  I took the #2 spot though so OpenVMS now holds the top F 3 spots.  I like the 918 day XP SP2 host.  That's some creative lying.B He's in the "All hosts" and not the "Active Hosts" so I think he's	 given up.    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 10:57:16 -0700$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 C Message-ID: <1121795836.464452.278550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei wrote: O > Isn't amazing how a corporation always has exact round numbers when they need  > to cut staff ? > M > It isn't "after carfule due diligence, we have discobered we can cut 14,437    spin  O > jobs without affecting productivitry", it is "we'll cut 14,500" which is just     F C'mon JF. If it had been the other way around you'd complain about howE they could know such a number so precisely when the layoffs are to be . carried out over 6 quarters (that's 1.5 yrs.).  E Things might change a little over those six quarters. And there's the E voluntary retirement program mentioned. Do those retirees count among F the 14500? How many will there be? Kind of hard to tell to a precision of one employee.     [...]    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:13:24 -0400 . From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> Subject: Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 , Message-ID: <42DD42BB.E65DC121@teksavvy.com>  
 AEF wrote:H > C'mon JF. If it had been the other way around you'd complain about howG > they could know such a number so precisely when the layoffs are to be 0 > carried out over 6 quarters (that's 1.5 yrs.).  L In a small company, you cut one job only if you knwo the remaining employeesL can pickup the slack. And you should know exactly how much can be removed to still get the job done.   I In a large company, what happens is that blind decision "we'll cut 14,500 J jobs" is made at the high level and then departments are told to cut theirM share of employees, without the top management really have made due diligence ? on exactly how many jobs can be cut in that department etc etc.   L I'd have far more respect for a CEO that goes out to the media and states heM will trim down employees art the company to remove any fat and bring employee 8 costs down without affecting the success of the company.  G Look at Palmer. He cut jobs and products left and right to achieve some L numeric target (employee costs versus sales). Problem is that he cut so much7 that sales suffered more than employee cost reductions.     N Hurd could have come out and stated that the merger with Compaq had not reallyG been completed and that there was still a lot of fat and duplication in M management and operation of the company and that he would focus over the next O 6 quarters on individual departments and make whatever reductions are possible.   M Then, at the end of the 6 months, he come sout to the media and announces the N results of his work. "We have been able to reduce workforce by 14,356 workers,: % percentage from department A, y% from department B etc).  G Right now, such an announcement of future round number job cuts is just M vapourware and the rest of the company will now be busy firing left and right M to reach that target even if it ends up hurting the company because political J fights will result in some department with lots of fat winning and keepingM their fat employees, and the departments who really shoudln't have gotten any 3 cuts losing the figts and having to lose employees.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:52:19 GMT 9 From: Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us>  Subject: Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 D Message-ID: <nospam.News.Bob-F3BA51.21524219072005@news.verizon.net>  , In article <42DD2E6A.A8A14302@teksavvy.com>,/  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:   O > Isn't amazing how a corporation always has exact round numbers when they need  > to cut staff ?   > M > It isn't "after carfule due diligence, we have discobered we can cut 14,437 O > jobs without affecting productivitry", it is "we'll cut 14,500" which is just N > a round number down from the leaked 15,000 number that had been circulating,@ > maijng the news appear less bad than people had anticipated... >  > HP's press release is at: ; > http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2005/050719a.html  > L > The good news is that Winkler finally goes. The centralised sales group isO > disolved and each business unit now responsible for sales, with one executive   > VP in charge of overseeing it:M > Cathy Lyons, a 26-year HP executive, was named executive vice president and  > chief marketing officer  >  > L > Hurd says that most cust will come from corporate support (IT, accounting  > etc)O > and r&d won't be affected. However, voluntary severance will be available to   > all. > M > HP'd headcount apparently had stayed level since the integration of Compaq   > was "completed". > M > It would be interesting to hear from the VMS group to see how they perceive / > this announcement and if it will affect them.   F A more interesting question is.  How many of your favorite developers G will take the early retirement package.  I would think there are a lot  ' of VMS developers that are eligible :-)   E As the formal ZK3 CASL group has found, there are jobs out there for  H software developers in the Southern New Hampshire, Massachusetts area.  H And a lot of those companies have previous Digits/Friends that would be 0 extremely happy to have some of these engineers.  2                                         Bob Harris   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 19:52:41 -0700$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 C Message-ID: <1121827960.948140.308490@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > AEF wrote:J > > C'mon JF. If it had been the other way around you'd complain about howI > > they could know such a number so precisely when the layoffs are to be 2 > > carried out over 6 quarters (that's 1.5 yrs.). > N > In a small company, you cut one job only if you knwo the remaining employeesN > can pickup the slack. And you should know exactly how much can be removed to > still get the job done.  > K > In a large company, what happens is that blind decision "we'll cut 14,500 L > jobs" is made at the high level and then departments are told to cut theirO > share of employees, without the top management really have made due diligence A > on exactly how many jobs can be cut in that department etc etc.   N > I'd have far more respect for a CEO that goes out to the media and states heO > will trim down employees art the company to remove any fat and bring employee : > costs down without affecting the success of the company.    E No, then you'd complain that he/she gave no idea of how many jobs are 
 on the block.     I > Look at Palmer. He cut jobs and products left and right to achieve some N > numeric target (employee costs versus sales). Problem is that he cut so much9 > that sales suffered more than employee cost reductions.     ; What does Palmer have to do with the roundness of a number?     P > Hurd could have come out and stated that the merger with Compaq had not reallyI > been completed and that there was still a lot of fat and duplication in O > management and operation of the company and that he would focus over the next Q > 6 quarters on individual departments and make whatever reductions are possible.  > O > Then, at the end of the 6 months, he come sout to the media and announces the P > results of his work. "We have been able to reduce workforce by 14,356 workers,< > % percentage from department A, y% from department B etc). > I > Right now, such an announcement of future round number job cuts is just O > vapourware and the rest of the company will now be busy firing left and right O > to reach that target even if it ends up hurting the company because political L > fights will result in some department with lots of fat winning and keepingO > their fat employees, and the departments who really shoudln't have gotten any 5 > cuts losing the figts and having to lose employees.     > You deduce quite a lot from very little and it ends up being a	 whine-on.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:11:17 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 , Message-ID: <42DDB2BA.15E71F8C@teksavvy.com>   Bob Harris wrote: G > A more interesting question is.  How many of your favorite developers H > will take the early retirement package.  I would think there are a lot) > of VMS developers that are eligible :-)   ! Yes, that is a serious question.    L Anothert problem is if the VMS group doesn't have enough power within HP, itH may be very easy for more powerful departments to point to VMS and shiftU layoffs to the VMS group, knowing the VMS group won't fight back. So a double whammy.   J I hope that Ann McQuaid will fight hard to protect the VMS engineering andJ sales, as well as ambassadors. And with change in marketing and ousting ofJ Winkler, McQuaid should also fight hard to enable VMS marketing within HP. There is an opportunity here.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:59:22 GMT   From: CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> Subject: Re: HP layoffs: 14,500 * Message-ID: <42DDBE0A.3090104@prodigy.net>   JF Mezei wrote:  > AEF wrote:I >> C'mon JF. If it had been the other way around you'd complain about how H >> they could know such a number so precisely when the layoffs are to be1 >> carried out over 6 quarters (that's 1.5 yrs.).  > N > In a small company, you cut one job only if you knwo the remaining employeesN > can pickup the slack. And you should know exactly how much can be removed to > still get the job done.  > K > In a large company, what happens is that blind decision "we'll cut 14,500 L > jobs" is made at the high level and then departments are told to cut theirO > share of employees, without the top management really have made due diligence A > on exactly how many jobs can be cut in that department etc etc.  > N > I'd have far more respect for a CEO that goes out to the media and states heO > will trim down employees art the company to remove any fat and bring employee : > costs down without affecting the success of the company. > I > Look at Palmer. He cut jobs and products left and right to achieve some N > numeric target (employee costs versus sales). Problem is that he cut so much9 > that sales suffered more than employee cost reductions.  >  > P > Hurd could have come out and stated that the merger with Compaq had not reallyI > been completed and that there was still a lot of fat and duplication in O > management and operation of the company and that he would focus over the next Q > 6 quarters on individual departments and make whatever reductions are possible.  > O > Then, at the end of the 6 months, he come sout to the media and announces the P > results of his work. "We have been able to reduce workforce by 14,356 workers,< > % percentage from department A, y% from department B etc). > I > Right now, such an announcement of future round number job cuts is just O > vapourware and the rest of the company will now be busy firing left and right O > to reach that target even if it ends up hurting the company because political L > fights will result in some department with lots of fat winning and keepingO > their fat employees, and the departments who really shoudln't have gotten any 5 > cuts losing the figts and having to lose employees.   E I think what often happens in situations like this is that people get G cut, and a couple of weeks later those remaining realize the person cut A was doing something unique and necessary and hires them back as a ! "consultant" at an inflated cost.   G Or, worse, the person who was cut turns up at a competitor and attracts  away business.   --  D The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt toC minimize spam.  Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:10:10 GMT 1 From: Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com>  Subject: Re: Interex is Dead! 2 Message-ID: <mLfDe.8876$Lw7.3990@news.cpqcorp.net>   JF Mezei wrote:   K > Does anyone have any information on why this is happening ? Is HP cutting E > funding to Interex or was Interex financially independent from HP ?   G Interex has been an independent organization since its founding. DECUS  B used to be part of Digital's balance sheet at one point, but that 8 changed some years ago and Encompass is now independent.  H Rumor has it HP and Interex had some differences of opinion with regard G to HP World, resulting in a reduced presence by HP at HP World (but HP  H still provided support in terms of buying some tradeshow exhibit space, G and sending Ann Livermore to do a keynote, along with a limited number  I of HP speakers for hands-on sessions and technical sessions) but with HP  F focusing more heavily on the HP Technology Forum. The annual event is G typically a big piece of a user group's finances. My speculation would  B be that enrollments for HP World must have fallen short of needed / levels. There's an interview with a founder at  D http://www.computerworld.com/news/2005/story/0,11280,103319,00.html 5 which gives some background from Interex's viewpoint.   I I'm sorry to see Interex fail. Although historically focused more on the  I pre-merger HP product space (HP3000 / MPE and HP-UX) product space, they  H were earnestly trying to embrace pre-merger Digital / Compaq technology I groups. I felt HP World was much better the last two years, when Interex  F and Encompass did it jointly, than it was before, and I wish they had E done that again this year. I was welcomed and enjoyed speaking at HP  D World for even the initial one I attended just after the merger was A finalized (which still had a strong pre-merger HP flavor). And I  ( respected and enjoyed HP World Magazine.  8 HP seems to be responding quickly and doing some triage:  F  From the San Francisco Chronicle: Organizer closes; HP World is off; 7 10th annual event had been scheduled for S.F. in August k http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/07/19/BUGS1DQ1LO1.DTL&type=business    H This article includes some encouraging news -- free HP Technology Forum + registration for paid HP World registrants: G "HP Spokesman Ryan Donovan said the company regrets Interex's decision  D to cancel the show. He said the company is offering free Technology G Forum passes to would-be HP World attendees who already paid for their  ? registration. HP is also offering discounted space to HP World   exhibitors and sponsors."   L > This happens the day before HP is said to unveil major job losses and cost > cutting.    F I don't see this as related to HP's restructuring. The decisions with J regard to HP World on the part of both Interex and HP happened months ago.  O > Has the US group formerly known as DECUS made any announcement ? What sort of J > ties existed between the group formerly known as DECUS USA and Interex ?  H I haven't seen an official announcement yet from Encompass US, but I've E seen signs that folks there and at HP are scrambling to do the right  I thing for customers. Might not hurt to watch http://encompassus.org/ for   updates.  B Encompass (US Chapter) (formerly DECUS) and Interex cooperated in I presenting HP World in the US for the last 2 years. That's the extent of   their relationship.   O > In europe, it seems that Interex had merged with the groups formerly known as O > DECUS from Europe. Does this mean that both are now sinking ? Or will Interex  > europe survive ?  H I haven't gotten an answer back yet from them, but I suspect HP-Interex F EMEA is probably a separate legal organization since it is located in  Europe.   B I would not expect this to have any effect on ENSA@work events in  Europe, either.   N > If HP has cut funding to Interex, it is also likely that HP will cut funding( > to the groups formerly known as DECUS.  H No need to fear. HP is heavily involved in sponsoring the HP Technology E Forum, has a large trade-show presence planned, and the HP Certified  - Professional Program is also deeply involved.   D Intel, Microsoft, Cisco, Oracle, BEA, and Citrix recently joined as 3 sponsors of the HP Technology Forum as well -- see  9 http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2005/050714a.html    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:16:00 GMT * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com> Subject: Re: Keyboards again2 Message-ID: <4cdDe.8863$Cq7.2137@news.cpqcorp.net>  ; Yup.  The LK450 has 2 modes, and 3 scansets, and the KVM is F probably screwing up the ability for us to find out if it *is* a LK450" and then set the mode and scanset.    : "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> wrote in message1 news:8660a3a105071908341eb85b3e@mail.gmail.com... 7 On 19 Jul 2005 08:13:31 -0700, johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com ! <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> wrote: F > Would anyone have a clue as to why a PWS 500 would work fine with anH > LK450-AA when talking to the SRM console but once DECWindows starts itD > totally fails to work until it's reset?  Once the DECWindows loginF > screen appears NOTHING at all works. The Caps Lock key doesn't causeG > the LED to toggle, F18 doesn't cause the KVM switch to activate. Only H > when the PWS is halted and reset (and some magical code is sent to theI > keyboard) does the LK450 come back alive.  On the other hand a LK461-A2 B > works okay (I just hate the feel of it and love the LK450).  Any > thoughts?  >  > G The problem might lie with the three letter acronym in your post:  KVM.   A The historical record of this newsgroup is replete with extensive B discussions concerning which switches work with which machines, or2 not, with data mostly obtained by trial-and-error.  K Do you have the same problem when the keyboard is directly connected to the  PWS?   WWWebb   --  C NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  correspondence. C All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for 8 services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at# http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 20:12:28 -0700$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>M Subject: Re: Now the UK Has it's own date in the history of al quiada attacks C Message-ID: <1121829148.716060.267530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Bill Todd wrote: > AEF wrote: >  > ...  > J > > It's posts like this, Bill, that led me to stop reading your posts. IfK > > you *really* want to "educate" people, the first thing you should do is ! > > stop writing posts like this.  > J > I've tried 'nice' and it just rolls off the morons' backs like water offI > a duck.  So I've adopted the 'bigger hammer' approach for a while until   G If at first you don't succeed.... Really, if you're motivated enough to D read that reference of optimal driving in Austrailia I think it was,F the one that mentioned everything but mileage (or at least my skimmingF of it found very little about mileage), and comment on it, I think youG might be able to make the nice, or at least non-hostile approach, work. F Many have. (I was going to read that ref., but I don't have the time.)  9 And when the hammer doesn't work, what will you try next?   G I've tried both nice and hammer approach and found the former much more D productive. Then there is the possibility that in some cases NOTHINGE will work. One must accept that when it's the case. Then there is the E possibility that you might actually be wrong about something. Now you E seem to be saying "Listen to me or I'll call you names and insult you - and curse at you." Anyone can say or do that.   C When a business tries to sell you a product, do they try to be nice @ (well, appear to be nice, let's say friendly) or do they try the1 hammer? I'm not aware of any that use the hammer.   I > such time as the knuckle-draggers either pull themselves up to a higher G > plane of competence or slink back to their proper places, and society B > starts operating on something resembling a rational basis again.  @ Good luck. I once asked you how you'd react if I took the hammerD approach with you and you said you'd react rather negatively. Why do* you expect anything different from others?  * >   It's pretty stupid to expect people to> > > read your posts when there is such a large chance of a low5 > > signal-to-noise ratio like the post quoted above.  > C > Since there's such a large class of people whom I don't expect to J > assimilate things that are uncomfortable for them even if they *do* readI > them (and whom I therefore consider at least temporarily ineducable and G > uninteresting), I really don't care whether they read what I write or C > not.  In fact, having sufficiently operational intelligence to be I > interested in learning without being spoon-fed is one significant trait H > that I'm looking for in a reader (and I don't tend to disparage peopleB > who have demonstrated that characteristic with any consistency). >  >   We know your in LJK's * > > killfile, and probably in many others. > F > Their loss, I'm afraid.  In Larry's specific case, any respect I mayG > have for him is so narrowly defined that losing him as a reader is at 0 > worst a wash and may qualify as a slight plus. >  >   If your signal/noise ratioB > > improves, I'll read more of yours, and maybe others will, too. > I > I really couldn't care less whether some people don't want to read what B > I write:  anyone so blind that they'd rather be comfortable than+ > educated is probably a lost cause anyway.   A It's not just a matter of comfort. Manners comes to mind, as does  content.C Name calling and insults sometimes quickly degenerate into childish D "Your a moron. Well you're a bigger moron. Am not. Am too." And whenF you make posts like that there is often no real content. And when yourF posts are mostly such stuff they are a waste of time to write or read.  G And if no one AT ALL reads your posts, which may be the result one day, 1 you're wasting your time. But you don't care. OK.    > J > This sub-discussion is a perfect example of how incompetent people clingJ > to the idea that the fact that they have every right to whatever opinionJ > they may hold somehow confers some actual value on that opinion, howeverF > uneducated it may be.  The issue is clearly one of competence ratherH > than intelligence - in fact, the more intelligent the incompetent, theG > greater the value they appear to believe their untutored opinion has, C > and the more snippy they tend to become when it's challenged with 4 > anything short of utterly unimpeachable authority.  E "Intelligence", or, shall we say, ability, in any given person, often G seems to apply to a narrow range of tasks. Actors and other celebrities 
 come to mind.   > > Intelligence may create some sparkling moments, but for realJ > productivity I'll take competence over intelligence any day.  CompetenceI > (among other things, obviously) includes knowing the boundaries of what J > you know and understanding that those boundaries are quite different forF > different individuals, even if their areas of understanding may haveI > some common intersections (e.g., in professional areas).  It guides one F > in knowing when to talk and teach, when to listen and learn, and (inJ > what is arguably the most satisfying but also rarest of situations) when@ > to brainstorm with a group of not only similarly-competent but; > similarly-informed people and create something wonderful.   8 I think you need to visit another universe to find that.  I > Hasn't been all that much wonderful around c.o.v. for years - trying to G > reach any kind of consensus is more like pulling hens' teeth, because C > regardless of whatever evidence may be discovered an opinion here I > changes only once in a blue moon.  Too bad:  under other circumstances, I > we might have actually been productive in getting VMS's owners to shape  > up noticeably.   Yeah, right.   >  > - bill   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jul 2005 20:14:04 -0700$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>M Subject: Re: Now the UK Has it's own date in the history of al quiada attacks B Message-ID: <1121829244.719250.62320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   John Smith wrote:  > AEF wrote: > > John Smith wrote:  > >> Bill Todd wrote:  > >>> AEF wrote: > >>>> > >>>> John Smith wrote: [...]  > > H > >> Besides, I'm more interested in getting VMS advertised and marketedF > >> - that's what would allow me to afford a new M5-series w/ 500 bhp > >> and a V-10 engine.  > > ; > > And if you don't get this car it will be the end of the  > world? > K > I'd be p*ssed, but no it isn't the end of the world....I'd just switch to , > promoting Sun or IBM to get my new Bimmer.    F Uh, could you pass me that "Humor for Dummies" book when you done? :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:10:20 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com& Subject: Re: Terry Shannon passed awayQ Message-ID: <OF638E4EB2.5303CE95-ON85257043.0063C2D4-85257043.0064078D@metso.com>   J The current US News & World Report has a story on Blogs by executives.  It includes an interview K and samples from the Blog of Rich Marcello at HP, with the text of his post  on Terry's passing' featured.  Kind works, you will recall.    Peace.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:21:09 -0700 ! From: Fred Bach <music@triumf.ca> & Subject: Re: Terry Shannon passed away( Message-ID: <42DD52A5.3090008@triumf.ca>   norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  >  >  > L > The current US News & World Report has a story on Blogs by executives.  It > includes an interview M > and samples from the Blog of Rich Marcello at HP, with the text of his post  > on Terry's passing) > featured.  Kind works, you will recall.  >  > Peace. >       I finally found it here:   F http://h20276.www2.hp.com/blogs/marcello/2005/06/06/1118076078000.html      .. fred bach    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:52:07 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com& Subject: Re: Terry Shannon passed awayQ Message-ID: <OF9D36D7D4.6A230684-ON85257043.006D2DFE-85257043.006D5915@metso.com>   3 Actually, it's here - and the excerpt is on page 5.   B http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/articles/050725/25eeblogs.htm  < Fred Bach <music@triumf.ca> wrote on 07/19/2005 03:21:09 PM:   > norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  > >  > >  > > J > > The current US News & World Report has a story on Blogs by executives. It > > includes an interview J > > and samples from the Blog of Rich Marcello at HP, with the text of his post > > on Terry's passing+ > > featured.  Kind words, you will recall.  > > 
 > > Peace. > >  >  >    I finally found it here:  > H > http://h20276.www2.hp.com/blogs/marcello/2005/06/06/1118076078000.html >  >    .. fred bach  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:23:57 -0700 ! From: Fred Bach <music@triumf.ca> & Subject: Re: Terry Shannon passed away( Message-ID: <42DD615D.9090803@triumf.ca>   Norm,   <   Indeed, yes, you are correct, if you are interested in the@   article on blogging executives.  I didn't care much about that@   article, and the excerpt looked too short.  Rather my citationD   was Marcello's whole blog entry about Terry, not just the excerpt.?   I passed through that one to find what Marcello really wrote.   3   Depends on what one things is important, I guess.   	   Cheers,      .. fred bach ..   >    ps.  I find it interesting that the USNews.com search finds>    articles in the JULY 25, 2005 issue.  How far in advance do    they print?  ..fwb.     norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:    >  >  > 5 > Actually, it's here - and the excerpt is on page 5.  > D > http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/articles/050725/25eeblogs.htm > > > Fred Bach <music@triumf.ca> wrote on 07/19/2005 03:21:09 PM: >  >  >>norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  >> >>>  >>> I >>>The current US News & World Report has a story on Blogs by executives.  >  > It >  >>>includes an interviewI >>>and samples from the Blog of Rich Marcello at HP, with the text of his  >  > post >  >>>on Terry's passing * >>>featured.  Kind words, you will recall. >>> 	 >>>Peace.  >>>  >> >>   I finally found it here:  >>H >>http://h20276.www2.hp.com/blogs/marcello/2005/06/06/1118076078000.html >> >>   .. fred bach  >> >  >    ------------------------------   Date: 20 Jul 2005 04:21:22 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>8 Subject: Re: VMS process priorities and system processes? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-jd29xMWBISCu@dave2_os2.home.ours>   5 On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:45:14 UTC, Albrecht Schlosser   <ajs856@tiscali.de> wrote:  P > We can't see any bottlenecks during normal operation of the system, but users R > occasionally complain about slow performance, something like a hanging process, P > and they say that it would be for up to 20 or 30 seconds. Even if it would be L > only one half of this, I would really be surprised, because normal system L > performance should be really fast (see other post - memory tables, global  > buffers etc.). > N > We also checked the network, as far as we can do. Switches don't report any = > problems, and LANCP doesn't report anything unusual either.   E We get a 21 second pause every now and again. I see it from both VAX  F (6.2/7.3) and Alpha (V7.1-2). I like to blame it on the other OS's in  the network :-)    --   Cheers - Dave W.   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:39:01 +0000 (UTC) $ From: JKB <knatschke@koenigsberg.fr> Subject: [Ann] FreeVMS 0.1.8; Message-ID: <slrnddq0jo.6tm.knatschke@rayleigh.systella.fr>    	Hello,    	New release 0.1.8 at 8 	ftp.nvg.ntnu.no:/pub/vms/freevms (freevms-0_1_8.tgz and 	linker-0_1_6)   	News:  A 	New Bliss version, 0.100 (bump due to new evaluation of maturity E 	level). It has added support for sign extension, pointer arithmetic, K 	undeclare for literals, allocation attribute, general structure reference. 9 	It has better support for builtins ap and nullparameter. D 	New Bliss req-files with Linux support (may work on other 32-bit LEC 	Unix). Some new librtl routines getdvi, getjpi, getsyi, just plain  	interface to system services.4 	Logicals now using case blind search (temporarily).( 	MSG utility (generates only constants).   	Bugs fixed: 	Related to casing in logicals. * 	Bliss bug fixes are noted in Bliss HOWTO.   	New bugs/features: 
 	Lots. ;-)   	Notes:  	CONFIG_VMS:6 	Rename close to close2 in routines.b32 (temporarily).9 	Have gotten around to linking the (Bliss) telnet client. 8 	It does not work, but if you want to debug, run it with) 	It crashes in printf (called by trnlog).   	 	Regards,    	JKB   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.401 ************************                                                           VAX,AXP    # of parts:   -    Language:     -P --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 FILES_INFO&    Version:      V2.0-000, 27-NOV-1994D    Description:  Display all processes that have a certain file open6    Author:       Edward A. Heinrich <HEINRICH@byu.edu>    Architecture: VAX,AXP    # of parts:   -    Language:     MACRO-32, CP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FIND    Version:      1-DEC-1994c/    Descr