1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 21 Jul 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 404       Contents:J Building SIMH V3.4 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 / CC V6.5 - errors - any ideas?! Re: Congratulations to Ed Wilts !  Exabyte 220 robot blues. Re: Exabyte 220 robot blues.P Re: Finding OpenVMS Programming Examples in HP's Natural Language Search   EnginP Re: Finding OpenVMS Programming Examples in HP's Natural Language Search   Engin lan failover Re: lan failoverH Moving Rdb RUJ and log files to alternate location other than SYS$SYSTEML Re: Moving Rdb RUJ and log files to alternate location other than SYS$SYSTEMP Re: Moving Rdb RUJ and log files to alternate location other than SYS$SYSTEM SYS1 Re: Offshore Telephone Technical support to India 1 Re: Offshore Telephone Technical support to India G Re: Open VMS BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing) , Re: OPERATING & AMBIENT TEMPERATURE for ES40, Re: OPERATING & AMBIENT TEMPERATURE for ES40" Re: simple image processing on VMS$ Re: Trolltech Qt Library for OpenVMS  VT420 Console - a quick question$ Re: VT420 Console - a quick question$ Re: VT420 Console - a quick question$ Re: VT420 Console - a quick question$ Re: VT420 Console - a quick question  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:59:43 GMT A From: "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk> S Subject: Building SIMH V3.4 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 / CC V6.5 - errors - any ideas? = Message-ID: <3wQDe.74726$G8.50410@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   K Got this output from building SIMH V3.4 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 on an AS800 K (and V7.3-1 on a PWS500au) using DECC V6.5 and MMS from DECset (see below):   H Anyone else tripped over this? I'd like to have the PDP11, VAX and DEC10L simulators running ASAP for a system I'm helping to set up for the Bletchley! Park computer museum (Retrobeep).     2 SYSTEM on XDVMS2 $ mms/macro=("__ALPHA__=1") pdp11   $!7 $! Building The SYS$DISK:[.BIN]PDP11-AXP.EXE Simulator.  $! $ L CC/DECC/PREFIX=ALL/NODEBUG/OPTIMIZE=(LEVEL=5,TUNE=HOST)/ARCH=HOST/NEST=PRIMA6 RY/NAME=(AS_IS,SHORTENED)/INCLUDE=(SYS$DISK:[],SYS$DIS) K:[.PDP11],SYS$DISK:[.PCAP-VMS.PCAP-VCI]) L /DEFINE=(_LARGEFILE,"VM_PDP11=1","USE_NETWORK=1")/OBJECT=SYS$DISK:[.LIB.BLD- - 
 AXP] SCP.C< $ LINK /NODEBUG/NOTRACEBACK/EXE=SYS$DISK:[.BIN]PDP11-AXP.EXE8 SYS$DISK:[.LIB.BLD-AXP]SCP.OBJ,SYS$DISK:[.LIB]PDP11L1-AXL P.OLB/LIBRARY,SYS$DISK:[.LIB]PDP11L2-AXP.OLB/LIBRARY,SYS$DISK:[.LIB]SIMH-AXP- .OLB/LIBRARY,SYS$DISK:[.LIB]PCAP-AXP.OLB/LIB-  /SYSEXE 8 %LINK-W-MULDEF, symbol decc$gxvsnprintf multiply definedK         in module DECC$SHR_EV56 file SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]DECC$SHR_EV56.EXE;1 7 %LINK-W-MULDEF, symbol decc$gxsnprintf multiply defined K         in module DECC$SHR_EV56 file SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]DECC$SHR_EV56.EXE;1 F %MMS-F-ABORT, For target PDP11, CLI returned abort status: %X10648268.        0 SYSTEM on XDVMS2 $ mms/macro=("__ALPHA__=1") vax   $!5 $! Building The SYS$DISK:[.BIN]VAX-AXP.EXE Simulator.  $! $ L CC/DECC/PREFIX=ALL/NODEBUG/OPTIMIZE=(LEVEL=5,TUNE=HOST)/ARCH=HOST/NEST=PRIMA6 RY/NAME=(AS_IS,SHORTENED)/INCLUDE=(SYS$DISK:[],SYS$DIS9 K:[.VAX],SYS$DISK:[.PDP11],SYS$DISK:[.PCAP-VMS.PCAP-VCI]) 8 /DEFINE=(_LARGEFILE,"VM_VAX=1","USE_NETWORK=1")/OBJECT=- SYS$DISK:[.LIB.BLD-AXP] SCP.C : $ LINK /NODEBUG/NOTRACEBACK/EXE=SYS$DISK:[.BIN]VAX-AXP.EXE< SYS$DISK:[.LIB.BLD-AXP]SCP.OBJ,SYS$DISK:[.LIB]VAX-AXP.OLB/LIL BRARY,SYS$DISK:[.LIB]SIMH-AXP.OLB/LIBRARY,SYS$DISK:[.LIB]PCAP-AXP.OLB/LIB/SY SEXE8 %LINK-W-MULDEF, symbol decc$gxvsnprintf multiply definedK         in module DECC$SHR_EV56 file SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]DECC$SHR_EV56.EXE;1 7 %LINK-W-MULDEF, symbol decc$gxsnprintf multiply defined K         in module DECC$SHR_EV56 file SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]DECC$SHR_EV56.EXE;1 & %LINK-W-NUDFSYMS, 4 undefined symbols:  %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         BadCmPSL %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         op_cis  %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         op_cmode %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         op_octa 6 %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol BadCmPSL referenced)         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000001D0 A         in module VAX_CPU file SYS$DISK:[000000.LIB]VAX-AXP.OLB;1 4 %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol op_cis referenced)         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000560 A         in module VAX_CPU file SYS$DISK:[000000.LIB]VAX-AXP.OLB;1 5 %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol op_octa referenced )         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000570 A         in module VAX_CPU file SYS$DISK:[000000.LIB]VAX-AXP.OLB;1 6 %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol op_cmode referenced)         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000680 A         in module VAX_CPU file SYS$DISK:[000000.LIB]VAX-AXP.OLB;1 6 %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol BadCmPSL referenced)         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000280 B         in module VAX_CPU1 file SYS$DISK:[000000.LIB]VAX-AXP.OLB;1D %MMS-F-ABORT, For target VAX, CLI returned abort status: %X10648268.    2 SYSTEM on XDVMS2 $ mms/macro=("__ALPHA__=1") pdp10   $!5 $! Building The SYS$DISK:[.LIB]PDP10-AXP.OLB Library.  $! $ L CC/DECC/PREFIX=ALL/NODEBUG/OPTIMIZE=(LEVEL=5,TUNE=HOST)/ARCH=HOST/NEST=PRIMAL RY/NAME=AS_IS,SHORTENED)/INCLUDE=(SYS$DISK:[],SYS$DISK:[.PDP10],SYS$DISK:[.P DP11])? /DEFINE=(_LARGEFILE,"USE_INT64=1","VM_PDP10=1","USE_NETWORK=1")  /OBJECT=SYS$DISK:[- H .LIB.BLD-AXP] SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_FE.C, SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_CPU.C,; SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_KSIO.C, SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_LP20. ? C, SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_MDFP.C, SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_PAG.C, = SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_XTND.C, SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_RP- .C, ; SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_SYS.C, SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_TIM.C, D SYS$DISK:[.PDP10]PDP10_TU.C, SYS$DISK:[.PDP11]PDP11_PT.C, SYS$DISK:[K .PDP11]PDP11_DZ.C, SYS$DISK:[.PDP11]PDP11_RY.C, SYS$DISK:[.PDP11]PDP11_XU.C   +             fprintf (st, "%012o  ", h->ac); % ....................................^ F %CC-W-OUTTYPELEN, In this statement, this argument to fprintf is of "aL signed integer 64" type and is not appropriate for the conver sion specifierL "%012o".  The value might be truncated or formatted in an unintended manner.@ at line number 2177 in file SYS$DISK:[000000.PDP10]PDP10_CPU.C;1  9                 fprintf (st, "(undefined) %012o", h->ir); 3 ..................................................^ F %CC-W-OUTTYPELEN, In this statement, this argument to fprintf is of "aL signed integer 64" type and is not appropriate for the conver sion specifierL "%012o".  The value might be truncated or formatted in an unintended manner.@ at line number 2181 in file SYS$DISK:[000000.PDP10]PDP10_CPU.C;1I %MMS-F-ABORT, For target SYS$DISK:[.LIB]PDP10-AXP.OLB, CLI returned abort  status: %X10B91260.      SYSTEM on XDVMS2   --     Hope this helps, Colin. ) colin DOT butcher AT xdelta DOT co DOT uk E It's not mine, but I like this definition: Legacy = stuff that works.    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 03:22:15 -0700# From: "Galen" <gltackett@gmail.com> * Subject: Re: Congratulations to Ed Wilts !C Message-ID: <1121941335.022611.248260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Ed Wilts wrote:  >  > Windows averages 3 days  > :-)  >  >    .../Ed   * That long??!! You must have miscalculated! :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:08:07 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com ! Subject: Exabyte 220 robot blues. - Message-ID: <878y008r2g.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   > I have a feeling this is `user is an idiot', and I've forgoten! something simple in the set up...   ? I have just got a 220 robot with a Mammoth 8900 drive for home, < and hooked it to the VLC running 7.2. That's because the VLCB does not weigh 90lbs! Drive works fine, backup seems to be a happy" camper, but MRU, aka ROBOT is not.  ; Loaded the GK driver, defined the MRU_ROBOT logical, but...   > ROBOT GKA0 is not responding: Operating system specific error.2 %ROBOT-E-OS_ERROR, Operating system specific error       --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:02:49 +0000 (UTC) < From: gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann)% Subject: Re: Exabyte 220 robot blues. ) Message-ID: <dbnrs9$dea$1@news.BelWue.DE>   K In article <878y008r2g.fsf@prep.synonet.com>, prep@prep.synonet.com writes: ? >I have a feeling this is `user is an idiot', and I've forgoten " >something simple in the set up... > @ >I have just got a 220 robot with a Mammoth 8900 drive for home,= >and hooked it to the VLC running 7.2. That's because the VLC C >does not weigh 90lbs! Drive works fine, backup seems to be a happy # >camper, but MRU, aka ROBOT is not.  > < >Loaded the GK driver, defined the MRU_ROBOT logical, but... > ? >ROBOT GKA0 is not responding: Operating system specific error. 3 >%ROBOT-E-OS_ERROR, Operating system specific error    I don't know this library, but: N 1.) Has the robot its own SCSI address or does it use the address of the drive     an make use of LUNs?& 2.) Are you sure the robot is on ID 0?   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:59:52 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> Y Subject: Re: Finding OpenVMS Programming Examples in HP's Natural Language Search   Engin + Message-ID: <3k9vg4Ftb30hU1@individual.net>   - On 2005-07-11 13:39, "Keith Cayemberg" wrote:    > [...]  > @ > http://hp.ciber.net/hp/match.asp?query=Example+VMS&source=10005 >                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^ I > You can replace the "Example+VMS" with the keywords you wish to search. = > Important for selecting the VMS Engineering content is the   > "&source=1000" at the end. >  > [...]   I Did anyone manage to get *more* than just 10 results displayed at a time?    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:36:36 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>Y Subject: Re: Finding OpenVMS Programming Examples in HP's Natural Language Search   Engin A Message-ID: <42dfcf14$0$4208$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>    Michael Unger wrote:/ > On 2005-07-11 13:39, "Keith Cayemberg" wrote:  >  >  >>[...]  >>@ >>http://hp.ciber.net/hp/match.asp?query=Example+VMS&source=10005 >>                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^ I >>You can replace the "Example+VMS" with the keywords you wish to search. = >>Important for selecting the VMS Engineering content is the   >>"&source=1000" at the end. >> >>[...]  >  > K > Did anyone manage to get *more* than just 10 results displayed at a time?  > 	 > Michael  >    Hi Michael,   C Well, actually I am (now) getting many more results which are also  H mostly matching the query on following pages. However the search engine F is still substituting my keywords with synonyms. If you try the query E above, the word "sample" is used as an equivalent for "Example", and  C also finds matches with "VMS" and "Sample", but no "Example" in it.   E I have also noticed that I'm now getting the VMS Engineering Content  G without using the "&source=1000" suffix. It appears to me that someone  & may be improving the engines behavior?  A I don't believe they have improved the interpretation of special  H characters like "$" "-" or "[" yet. If I try to find F$EDIT, the search / engine uses EDIT and ignores the F and $ signs.    Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 07:11:03 -0700! From: "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de>  Subject: lan failover C Message-ID: <1121955063.020060.198670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Hi all,   8 having read the openVMS documentation about LAN failover0 (understganding lan failover) i have a question:  + chap: Detecting Network connection failures   @ 1) How is the in depth mechanism of the "link down" or "link up" condition ?   4 2) How is the link state monitored by the adapters ?A    it appears not to be based on the received byte count like the  failsafeIP.     Any indepth details are welcome.   thanks in advance  cheers,    Nazim Manser   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:01:48 +0100 * From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk> Subject: Re: lan failover 2 Message-ID: <dbodcs$pkt$1@blackmamba.itd.rl.ac.uk>  , "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> wrote in message= news:1121955063.020060.198670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   B > 1) How is the in depth mechanism of the "link down" or "link up"
 > condition ?   B Link state is maintained by all twisted pair Ethernet devices. The> original intention was to prevent a node with a broken receive> pair jabbering. It uses PHY level sigalling, so no packets are< involved. Often there will be a link light to indicate this.@ It will only protect you against low level stuff - broken cable,: switch power failure etc. The details are in IEEE 802.3 if you really care.   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 02:14:33 -0700% From: andrew.rycroft@intrinsitech.com Q Subject: Moving Rdb RUJ and log files to alternate location other than SYS$SYSTEM B Message-ID: <1121937273.005948.20580@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Hi,   E Currently we are running Oracle/Rdb on OpenVMS. Rdb  creates a lot of D RUJ and log files in SYS$SYSTEM. Is there a way to get Oracle Rdb to? create them on a different disk ? Is there a logical for this ?    Thank  Andrew   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 08:17:23 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) U Subject: Re: Moving Rdb RUJ and log files to alternate location other than SYS$SYSTEM 3 Message-ID: <9nyQfE9GItZC@eisner.encompasserve.org>   j In article <1121937273.005948.20580@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, andrew.rycroft@intrinsitech.com writes:  G > Currently we are running Oracle/Rdb on OpenVMS. Rdb  creates a lot of F > RUJ and log files in SYS$SYSTEM. Is there a way to get Oracle Rdb to# > create them on a different disk ?   ( Certainly there is, but I don't know it.6 Likely someone will be along shortly who does know it.  G But for the longer term, there is a higher concentration of Rdb experts  on JCC's mailing list found at:    	http://jcc.com/listserver.htm   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:45:15 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>Y Subject: Re: Moving Rdb RUJ and log files to alternate location other than SYS$SYSTEM SYS B Message-ID: <42df7cbc$0$18015$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>  & andrew.rycroft@intrinsitech.com wrote: > Hi,  > G > Currently we are running Oracle/Rdb on OpenVMS. Rdb  creates a lot of F > RUJ and log files in SYS$SYSTEM. Is there a way to get Oracle Rdb toA > create them on a different disk ? Is there a logical for this ?  >  > Thank  > Andrew >     @  From the "Oracle Rdb7 Guide to Database Performance and Tuning"- (Copyright  1984, 1996, Oracle Corporation.)   = http://download-uk.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/rdb/pdf/dbpt.pdf   : See especially Appendix A for a list of Rdb Logical Names.   -------------------------------   * RDMS$RUJ and RDB_RUJ  (from appendix A.97)  C You can use the RDMS$RUJ logical name or the RDB_RUJ configuration  I parameter to locate the .ruj file on a different disk and directory from  L the default directory. This can help to reduce contention in that directory.  H Include the RDB_RUJ configuration parameter in the configuration file to? specify the location you want to use, as shown in Example A36.   6 Example A36 Using the RDB_RUJ Configuration Parameter      RDB_RUJ /usr/clients/journal   ; See Section 3.2.1.7 and Section 8.1.2 for more information.    . . .   I The following guidelines can help you decide where to place the database   files:  F  Database root (.rdb), storage area (.rda), and snapshot (.snp) filesF In a single-node environment, Oracle Rdb maps the root portion of the F database file, or root header, as a global section of memory. Because C VMScluster configurations do not allow memory to be shared between  F nodes, Oracle Rdb in a VMScluster environment maintains copies of the F root header in a page-file section on each node that uses a database. ? The root file itself remains on the disk where you created it.  I Therefore, this disk must be accessible from all nodes in the VMScluster  H system that will access the database. If the root file of a database is C not available to a node, that database cannot be used by that node. ? The OpenVMS lock manager ensures that all root file copies are  I identical. The root, storage area, and snapshot files must be accessible  H from every node that intends to access the database. Oracle Rdb must be D able to create and maintain VMScluster distributed root file access.  $  Recovery-unit journal (.ruj) filesE Oracle Rdb must be able to complete its automatic recovery procedure  E should a node fail. Recovery can complete only if all .ruj files are  F accessible from every node that accesses the database. To ensure that 2 all .ruj files are accessible, follow these rules:B Define the RDMS$RUJ logical name in the system table to refer to aG common directory. Define the RDMS$RUJ logical name for each process to  G refer to a common directory. If you permit .ruj files to reside on the  ? users default directory, that directorys device must be on a   cluster-accessible disk.  "  After-image journal (.aij) filesD The .aij files must be accessible from every node that accesses the H database. This ensures that all processes that access the database will # be able to write to the .aij files. E To learn about reducing I/O contention in multiuser database access,  G read Section 3.2 and Section 8.1.1, which describe disk I/O operations  H and the corresponding effects on database performance. Placing the .aij A files on different devices than the database files is one way to  . minimize I/O contention on the database disks.   . . .   H Example 68 Defining the RDMS$RUJ Logical Name for the Directory for the
 .ruj Files  , $ DEFINE/SYSTEM RDMS$RUJ RUJ_DISK:[PERS.RUJ]  G If you plan to use a systemwide directory for your .ruj files, include  @ this command in your SYSTARTUP_V5.COM or SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM file.I Define this directory on a device other than the database files. You can  I also use the default, SYS$LOGIN, to place .ruj files per process in each  A users default directory. If you do not define the logical name,  F RDMS$RUJ, to refer to a common directory, make sure that all database : users log in to accounts whose default directories are on  cluster-accessible disks.    --------------------------   ALSO...   / RDM$BIND_ABS_LOG_FILE and RDB_BIND_ABS_LOG_FILE   > You can use the RDM$BIND_ABS_LOG_FILE logical name or the RDB_, BIND_ABS_LOG_FILE configuration parameter to   -----------------------------   % RDM$BUGCHECK_DIR and RDB_BUGCHECK_DIR   F You can use the RDM$BUGCHECK_DIR logical name or the RDB_BUGCHECK_DIR H configuration parameter to redirect the location of bugcheck files from G the default directory to another location. This can be useful when the  @ default directory does not have enough space for bugcheck files.  H On OpenVMS, when the bugcheck directory is defined, bugcheck dump files : are written to the device and directory pointed to by the C RDM$BUGCHECK_DIR logical name, rather than to the users top-level  4 directory, which is the default behavior on OpenVMS.  I When users have reached their disk quotas in their default directory due  D to a bugcheck dump, and if the RDM$BUGCHECK_DIR logical name or the E RDB_BUGCHECK_DIR configuration parameter is not specified to another  H device, the bugcheck dump overflows to the KOD$TT file. In this case, a H DBR process is created with an output device of KOD$TT. Also, note that E bugcheck dump files are written to the system disk and if the system  H disk becomes full, the overflow might also end up in KOD$TT. Generally, H nothing is written to KOD$TT and an examination of the KOD$TT file will  show that it is empty.  @ DBR bugcheck dump files by default are written to the SYS$SYSTEMF directory; however, when you define the RDM$BUGCHECK_DIR logical name,I DBR bugchecks will also be written to the new location specified by this  E logical name. As with any file creation, the user must have read and  H write access to the bugcheck directory for the bugcheck dump file to be  written successfully.    --------------------------  A User Logfiles usually go to the directory defined in the logical  G SYS$SCRATCH. This is by default the same as the SYS$LOGIN directory of  	 the user.     - The variuos Rdb Manuals are available here... @ http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/rdb/rdb_doc_index.html  I Appendix E of the SQL Reference Manual provide Logical Names used by SQL.    Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------   Date: 21 Jul 2005 13:14:44 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon): Subject: Re: Offshore Telephone Technical support to India+ Message-ID: <3k9le4Ft7mfuU1@individual.net>   2 In article <iFCDe.128$0f.55@tornado.texas.rr.com>,. 	LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM (leslie) writes: > N > Getting a degree for U.S. citizens may be an expensive exercise in futility I > as more employers embrace cheap foreign workers through offshoring and  ' > non-immigrant work visas (H-1B, L-1).   F The first is likely to change as more and more US companies get burnedE by the lack of security or the ability to recover loses in the courts F when their security is violated in theose other countries.  The secondD can be fixed with the swipe of a pen and there is rising pressure on the government to do just that.    bill      --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:50:06 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> : Subject: Re: Offshore Telephone Technical support to IndiaB Message-ID: <1121968227.caee064b204148ed8da73dacfba8f5c7@teranews>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:H > The first is likely to change as more and more US companies get burnedG > by the lack of security or the ability to recover loses in the courts < > when their security is violated in theose other countries.    M You may find that other countries have far more sringent data protection laws K than the USA. The USA is way behind the rest of the civilised world in that   matter at the legislative level.  E Remember that in the USA, there have been many incidents of passenger E reservation data being handed over to consulting firms who used it in K powerpoint presentatiosn in large public conferences (not knowing they were  using live real data).  K If India wants business from european nations for instance, it need to have M proper data privacy laws whose standards are way above what the USA has. (and J in fact the partriot act simply bypasses any data privacy laws the USA may1 have and thus renders such laws totally useless).   J The fact that some large UK banks such as HSBC have outsourced some of theJ work and telephone support to India means that India has data privacy laws# sufficient to allow this to happen.    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 10:34:32 -0700; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> P Subject: Re: Open VMS BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing)B Message-ID: <1121967272.863810.63500@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   MDPlatts wrote:  > Jeff Cameron wrote: B > > Has anyone done the Open Source port of BOINC for OpenVMS AXP? > >  > > Jeff > G > I tried - had to port several utilities to GNV environment - but then F > got stuck in a chicken/egg situation in that 2 utilities which didntI > exist needed each other - automake and autoconf or something like that. 2 > I've not tried since - but may revisit sometime. >  > Martin > . > (Team Jolt Cola - Overall World #12 @ BOINC)  . >From another thread Keith Cayemberg provides:  2 autoconf for VMS - Thien-Thi Nguyen (ttn) Freeware9 http://www.glug.org/people/ttn/software/autoconf-for-vms/     * The link for the particular message is -->K http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/msg/34f75e160f238b4d?hl=en&   C It contains some other links to various VMS OpenSource projects and " information. Maybe this will help?   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 08:06:54 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org5 Subject: Re: OPERATING & AMBIENT TEMPERATURE for ES40 3 Message-ID: <Kj9Kylno7LDg@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <05072012385086@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>, brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon) writes: >> John Brandon wrote:. >> > Suggest the following temperature limits: >> >  G >> > Operating (Tower, Pedestal, Rackmount) 500 to 950 F (100 to 350 C) 1 >> > Non-operating  400 to 1510 F ( 400 to 660 C) 5 >> > Storage (60 days)  400 to 1510 F ( 400 to 660 C)  >>  O >> I take it that those systems have all metal cabinets with 0 plastic parts in 	 >> them ?  >>  O >> Also, what sort of suits are the HP field service given when they have to go $ >> work in such computer rooms ? :-) >>   >>  M >> Also, at those temperatures, woudln't the lead solder start to melt on the M >> boards ? Or has HP found some way to solder electronics on board which can & >> widthstand such high temperatures ? >>  O >> Even if it was an extra 0 added to the numbers by mistake, it still wouldn't  >> make sense. > M > I was wonder why everyone was having such fun with this... now I see why...  > Q > I copy-n-paste the text from the web pages.  My editor took them as the degrees ( > symbol - the text translation is zero. >  > Should be: > @ > Operating (Tower, Pedestal, Rackmount) 50 to 95 F (10 to 35 C)* > Non-operating  40 to 151 F ( 40 to 66 C). > Storage (60 days)  40 to 151 F ( 40 to 66 C)  > A moment's sanity checking shows this reading to be incorrect.  9 The Fahrenheit and Celsius scales cross at -40 F = -40 C.   8 Thus, all the "40" values above should be "-40" instead.  
 Sanity check:    50F = 10C.  Correct. 95F = 35C.  Correct. 40F = 40C.  Incorrect.  <====  -40F = -40C.  Correct.  <====  151F = 66C.  Correct.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------   Date: 21 JUL 2005 10:00:07 GMT4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)5 Subject: Re: OPERATING & AMBIENT TEMPERATURE for ES40 6 Message-ID: <21JUL05.10000709@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>  * In a previous article, Keith Parris wrote:  I ->When I look at that page with either IE or Mozilla, what you show as a  C ->trailing zero shows up as a degree sign instead of a zero for me.   F It's a browser compatibility issue. The HTML code uses the &deg symbolA which will work on most browsers. There's a note in the following 2 article that says "circle may fill on older Macs":  ?  <http://wdvl.internet.com/Authoring/HTML/Entities/common.html>    --G -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison : --                  karcher.notmorespxm@waisman.wisc.edu     ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 06:01:55 -0700 From: thierry.uso@wanadoo.fr+ Subject: Re: simple image processing on VMS B Message-ID: <1121950915.543039.15980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: G > I'm looking for an easy-to-use program for simple image processing on G > VMS.  In other words, something I can load a .JPG into and produce as G > output another .JPG, but with a different resolution and/or different F > size, gamma correction etc.  I also need the possibility to crop theA > image.  That's all I really need, nothing fancy.  Best would be G > something which is already installed on VMS by default as part of the C > DECwindows apps or something.  Freeware and/or something from the @ > hobbyist CD would also be an option.  What do folks recommend? > B > I really need just the bare minimum of features.  What I want is3 > something which is easy to use and easy to learn.   3 If you have Java on your system, you can try imageJ G (http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/). I use it on my AlphaStation with OpenVMS F 7.3-2. It's a rewriting of a well-known image processing software from NIH and it is free...    Thierry USO.   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 05:54:08 -0700$ From: "Rick" <gillmores@hotmail.com>- Subject: Re: Trolltech Qt Library for OpenVMS C Message-ID: <1121950448.808592.271730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   G OK, I am now convinced we need to upgrade one of our development Alphas E to OpenVMS 8.2, so I will work on trying to make that happen, as well E as the upgrade to Qt 4.0 now that it's been released.  And thanks for B all the good VMS porting resource information, Keith and Kerry.  IG expect it will take me a few weeks to get back to the point where I can 8 work on this again, but I really want to make it happen.   I also just found this link:> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11483384  F So far I haven't been able to contact Jake Hamby (if you're out there,F Jake, please post an update!), but it looks like he is doing that sameB port (Qt 4.0 to VMS 8.2) so it would be nice to combine efforts if	 possible.   D Maybe if this topic generates enough interest, TrollTech will notice; and decide to add VMS to the list of supported platforms...    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:15:56 +0200 : From: "Tomasz Dryjanski" <tdryjanski.spamstop@hotmail.com>) Subject: VT420 Console - a quick question / Message-ID: <dbo3lr$isu$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>    Hi All,   @ I'm trying to deploy an Alpha Server 1000, 4/266. I've connected> a VT420 terminal via the DEC-423 port, and I've set the config= as recommended, i.e. Transmit=Receive=9600, 8 Bits No Parity, @ 1 Stop Bit, etc. Instead of the startup messages, I can see some garbage like$ p~~~~~~~~p~x~~|~~~~~~~~~~'~~|~~ etc.  D I've tried several different settings, with various types of garbage@ as the result (some of it contained reversed '?', some contained/ mainly umlauts), but this is not what I'd like.   7 Can you please advise? Alas, I need a quick solution...    Regards, Tomasz   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 06:31:29 -0700 From: dooleys@snowy.net.au- Subject: Re: VT420 Console - a quick question B Message-ID: <1121952688.818806.97820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   Tomasz Dryjanski wrote: 	 > Hi All,  > B > I'm trying to deploy an Alpha Server 1000, 4/266. I've connected@ > a VT420 terminal via the DEC-423 port, and I've set the config? > as recommended, i.e. Transmit=Receive=9600, 8 Bits No Parity, B > 1 Stop Bit, etc. Instead of the startup messages, I can see some > garbage like& > p~~~~~~~~p~x~~|~~~~~~~~~~'~~|~~ etc. > F > I've tried several different settings, with various types of garbageB > as the result (some of it contained reversed '?', some contained1 > mainly umlauts), but this is not what I'd like.  > 9 > Can you please advise? Alas, I need a quick solution...  > 
 > Regards, > Tomasz keep reducing the speed? phil   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Jul 2005 07:31:29 -0700 From: jordan@ccs4vms.com- Subject: Re: VT420 Console - a quick question C Message-ID: <1121956289.377677.278900@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   G Are you sure you are on the correct port on the back of the VT420?  Try  the other port.   A In global settings, make sure that one or both ports are set to a D session, not a printer (mine are usually set to "S1=Comm1,S2=Comm2",E and each session is connected to a system.  Then make sure you are in ? the correct session for the port you are using when you set the G communication parameters.  F4 toggles session 1 and session 2, F3 setup G gets you to the communications settings for the port on the session you  are currently in.   D Your settings should be correct if the console settings haven't beenG changed.  I once got stuck working on a VAX that had its console set to F 7,E,1, which produced some ugly displays on a default mode terminal; I3 can't recall if an Alpha could be similarly set up.    Rich Jordan    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:44:45 -0600  From: Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> - Subject: Re: VT420 Console - a quick question 4 Message-ID: <42dfd130$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net>   Tomasz Dryjanski wrote: 	 > Hi All,  > B > I'm trying to deploy an Alpha Server 1000, 4/266. I've connected@ > a VT420 terminal via the DEC-423 port, and I've set the config? > as recommended, i.e. Transmit=Receive=9600, 8 Bits No Parity, B > 1 Stop Bit, etc. Instead of the startup messages, I can see some > garbage like& > p~~~~~~~~p~x~~|~~~~~~~~~~'~~|~~ etc. > F > I've tried several different settings, with various types of garbageB > as the result (some of it contained reversed '?', some contained1 > mainly umlauts), but this is not what I'd like.  > 9 > Can you please advise? Alas, I need a quick solution...  >   2 1. Bad/wrong cable. Is your cable wired backwards?/ There are two ways to build a MMJ cable. One is 5 null, and one is straight-through. Hold the two cable 2 ends side-by-side, and compare the colors. If they3 go across in the same order, it is the wrong cable. 2 If the go across in reverse order, it is the right cable.  . Also a bad ground, and sometimes even a broken/ transmit/receive wire, can cause really strange  problems like this.   + 2. Wrong baud rate. Try other common speeds $ (19200, 9600, 4800, 2400, 1200, 300)  . 3. Bad VT420. Does this terminal work on other/ computers? I've seen ones with bad serial ports  before.    4. Bad console port.   ...   O ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:44:06 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> - Subject: Re: VT420 Console - a quick question B Message-ID: <1121967857.9b5c5825201c84aa5890cf35f67119f8@teranews>   Tomasz Dryjanski wrote: B > 1 Stop Bit, etc. Instead of the startup messages, I can see some > garbage like& > p~~~~~~~~p~x~~|~~~~~~~~~~'~~|~~ etc.  5 The above is indicative of a wrong serial line speed.   K What you need to also look is whether this all comes in one burst, of it it M comes in myultiple small group of junk. When you power up, messages appear in  small group of characters.    N Also, you need to consider that if the terminal is not set at the right speed,$ its sampling rate will be different.N For instance, if the computer is transmitting at 110 baud, but the terminal isM set at 19.2k baud, then each character sent to the terminal will be sent over O a period of time where the tertminal will expect to see roughly 175 characters.   L So the length of the bursts of "junk" can indicate if your terminal speed is* higher or lower than that of the computer.    K If the data appears more or less ok, but every second characters is screwed N up, with accented and weird characters abound, then it is a 7/8 bit and parity issue.    N Not sure about the 420 per say, but with older terminals, after changing speedP of the port, once had to use the "init comms" menu option for it to take effect.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.404 ************************