1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 30 Jul 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 421       Contents: Appletalk on VMS 7.3-2 comp.os.vms archives ? Re: comp.os.vms archives ?, Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS?0 Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS?0 Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS?0 Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS?& Encompass associate membership renewal- Re: How does sys$pal_swasten work on Itanium. L Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting.L Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting.L Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting.P Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. posP Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. posP Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. posP Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. posK Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???"posting. P Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???"posting. COND Re: LaTeX ---> PDF Re: nsswitch equivalent  This months Encompass Points) Re: To determine idle processes and users  What exactly is PGFLQUOTA  Re: What exactly is PGFLQUOTA  Re: What exactly is PGFLQUOTA  Re: What exactly is PGFLQUOTA . Where is Macro 64 in OpenVMS 7.3 Distribution?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2005 17:57:58 -0700$ From: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org> Subject: Appletalk on VMS 7.3-2 B Message-ID: <1122685078.762203.70990@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>  F It must be time for the regular "Appletalk is dying/dead" thread...  IE know that there are still a bunch of us using Appletalk for printing. F We all know by now that Appletalk hasn't been supported for about 7 orE 8 years and it does not work on V8.2.  What I just found out recently A was that although it had been working as well as always for us on @ 7.3-2, something recently changed to cause it to misbehave.  VMSE Engineering has so far identified 2 of our system crashes as being in F the Appletalk code.  We've been keeping up with our system patches andB I don't know which one (if any) suddenly started triggering systemF crashes, but here's a heads-up for you:  Appletalk is no longer stable? and can result in system crashes - at least 2 here (on separate   systems) in the last few months.  @ I don't expect VMS Engineering to do much about this - obviouslyE Appletalk is old and unsupported and we're lucky it works at all, but D then something else suddenly triggered it to start crashing.  EitherF something else is misbehaving and triggering Appletalk to crash (whichF they haven't identified) or Appletalk has been misbehaving for a whileB and one of the patches finally fixed broken code and Appletalk nowE crashes as a result.  We don't really know which.  It's also possible B that the issue has always been there on 7.3-2 and we've been lucky? enough to not trigger a crash.  What we do know is that this is  unlikely to be fixed.   D I haven't figured out yet what to do about this.  We've got over 200E Appletalk-only printers out there and my users want the feedback that F Appletalk gives them.  We're caught between a rock and a hard place...E I had hoped I could freeze my cluster at 7.3-2 forever, but even that E doesn't look like a viable option unless I start dedicating crashable D nodes in the cluster.  With a 6-year cluster uptime, you can imagine< how thrilled I am with the concept of "crashable" VMS nodes.  C If you're still running Appletalk on V7.3-2, watch out - this could G start biting you.  I don't know what preventative measures you can take G except to not apply current VMS patches and that might not be an option D for you either (especially since some fix other crashes we've seen).   Cheers, 	    .../Ed    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:40:48 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: comp.os.vms archives ? + Message-ID: <42EAF6B0.ABFBB12@teksavvy.com>   L Google has killed even Elmer now. All of its interfaces have been massacred, censored, killed.   E Does anyone know if comp.os.vms is being archived elsewhere ? Could a  searchable archive be setup ?    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 05:28:07 GMT / From: "Joe H. Gallagher" <dtrwiz@ix.netcom.com> # Subject: Re: comp.os.vms archives ? , Message-ID: <42EB0FDD.8020500@ix.netcom.com>   JF Mezei wrote: N > Google has killed even Elmer now. All of its interfaces have been massacred, > censored, killed.  > G > Does anyone know if comp.os.vms is being archived elsewhere ? Could a  > searchable archive be setup ?   E I just tried searching Google groups which found 10 year old posts in D comp.os.vms.  Would you be more specific about exactly what was been "massacred, censored, killed"?   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:07:17 -0500 ? From: "Christopher Story" <ke6rwj@spam-eater-remove-me-msn.com> 5 Subject: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS? ( Message-ID: <5fBGe.583$VU1.250@fe07.lga>  I Is it possible to create a custom banner page in DCPS.  I must be able to / put the Username, Jobname and Time on the page.   
 Any ideas?   Chris    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:01:58 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>9 Subject: Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS? + Message-ID: <42EAEDA5.D00239B6@comcast.net>    Christopher Story wrote: > K > Is it possible to create a custom banner page in DCPS.  I must be able to 1 > put the Username, Jobname and Time on the page.  >  > Any ideas?  7 What wrong with the default banner? It has all of that.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 22:09:45 -0500 ? From: "Christopher Story" <ke6rwj@spam-eater-remove-me-msn.com> 9 Subject: Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS? ( Message-ID: <F9CGe.586$VU1.510@fe07.lga>  ? "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message % news:42EAEDA5.D00239B6@comcast.net...  > Christopher Story wrote: > > J > > Is it possible to create a custom banner page in DCPS.  I must be able to3 > > put the Username, Jobname and Time on the page.  > >  > > Any ideas? > 9 > What wrong with the default banner? It has all of that.    David,G     The default banner also has the OS and Software versions, which our J corporate security policy prohibits.  They are forcing all the user facingJ materials to limit the information exposure.  (getting into a VMS is superG secure conversation, does not work on non-technical manager (executive) F types) even the windows / Unix people had to change many of the system! generated banners to custom ones.   J PS. We must do it with a server side banner not a printer resident banner.   Chris    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:46:29 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 9 Subject: Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS? , Message-ID: <42EB0611.430F13F6@teksavvy.com>   Christopher Story wrote: > K > Is it possible to create a custom banner page in DCPS.  I must be able to 1 > put the Username, Jobname and Time on the page.   Q The banner pages seem to be defined in the module LPS$$SYSTEMPAGES . (not pretty)    look for "username".    I In DCPS 2.3, they decided that the "company name" should be in a variable  since it changes so often :-)      $DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC DCPS$TEST 1  STOP and START the queue  0 PRINT LOGIN.COM/PARA=DIAG=FILE=BOTH/queue=xxxxx   I This generates a DCPS*xxx.LOG file in your sys$login, where * is your job N number and xxx is "TO" and "FROM". It logs the communications between DCPS andF the printer. Make sure you power cycle the printer before so that DCPS, downloads the whole prologue to the printer.  L You need to *convert* the TO file to be streamlf so it is properly editable.  R You will then see the header, and then the code added to generate the banner page.   Here is an example:  dict begin beginpage	 job burst  initpage (VELO::SYSTEM) username  (JOB 605) jobid  (LOGIN) name% (Hewlett-Packard Company) companyname  (OpenVMS VAX V7.2    ) systemid % (DECprint Supervisor V2.3) symbiontid  mark (SYSTEM  ) (Account:)  ([SYSTEM]) (Owner UIC:)  section1 mark (30-JUL-2005 00:09) (Started:)" ("serial/LTA10") (Printer device:) (LASER1) (Printer queue:)   (30-JUL-2005 00:09) (Submitted:) (LASER) (Submit queue:)  (100) (Priority:)  section2 endpage end   K What you need to do is go into the SYSTEMPAGES module and change the code.    J What section1 and section2 do is go though the  on the stack  (back to theL "mark") and print pairs of strings. To eliminate a line, you'd have to checkK for the first string to be equal to the line you don't want and just pop it   and the next one, or print both.  K For the initial portion, they are commands. To eliminate that line, you can K just edit that command's definition to not print anything or print what you  want.   
 For instance:   = /companyname{helvbold-12 setfont 54 72 position leftshow}bdef    You could replace it with:  G /companyname{helvbold-12 setfont 54 72 position pop (Acme Incorporated)  leftshow} bdef  I This just pops the string supplied before the command  ( (Hewlett-Packard K Company) companyname )  and prints your own company name instead. Or if you * don't want that line to show at all, just: /companyname { pop } bdef     K You'd have to do better editing if you want to truly customise this. But to J remove of override certain fields, it is fairly doable. Note that with anyL upgrade of DCPS, these changes will be zapped since customizing that library isn't supported.   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:32:20 +0000 (UTC) 6 From: John F <john@PleaseSeeSigForAddress.invalid.com>/ Subject: Encompass associate membership renewal + Message-ID: <dce794$k0$1@reader2.panix.com>   7 Is it necessary to (annually) renew Encompass associate 5 memberships?  In particular, I'll want to be renewing 8 my openvms (and layered products) hobbyist license soon.% I tried again filling out the form at F   https://www.encompassus.org/secure/membApp/index.cfm?form_type=ASSOC and got an error message from ?   https://www.encompassus.org/secure/membApp/index.cfm?Posted=1 <     You already have an Encompass profile as either a member0     or an associate. Please contact Headquarters8     (information@encompassUS.org) to update your contact;     information and have your login credentials reinstated. 0 Have my "credentials" been un-instated?  Thanks, --  > John Forkosh  ( mailto:  j@f.com  where j=john and f=forkosh )   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:26:12 GMT & From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com>6 Subject: Re: How does sys$pal_swasten work on Itanium.1 Message-ID: <8xuGe.9571$ru.7802@news.cpqcorp.net>    roger wrote:= > Like most engineers, I like to learn and understand things. F > Would love an Internals and Data structures book on openvms itanium.. > or any other articles you might be aware of.= > But I'm still curious exactly how this works as an example.  >   I OK, I sent your question off to the engineer who wrote the code for I64.  ,   He's on vacation until sometime next week.  G I suspect the SWIS code is on the I64 listings CDROMs but I don't know  E for sure.  The code is written in Itanium assembly for the most part.    --   John Reagan / HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project Leader  Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:19:26 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGU Subject: Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. 0 Message-ID: <00A477D9.5F0D459B@SendSpamHere.ORG>  Z In article <LyuGe.9572$ru.2411@news.cpqcorp.net>, John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> writes:! >VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  >  >>  L >> EXCUSES ME!  SOMEBODY PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORP. ID M >> FOR HP SO THAT I CAN CLAIM THIS "MONETARY DONATION" ON MY 1040 NEXT YEAR.   >>   >>   > + >If anything, just consider it a theft. :-)    Is that tax deductible? :)     --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:04:09 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.comU Subject: Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. Q Message-ID: <OFB740F822.AE41CE51-ON8525704D.006C55D3-8525704D.006E4097@metso.com>   9 VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote on 07/29/2005 03:19:26 PM:   F > In article <LyuGe.9572$ru.2411@news.cpqcorp.net>, John Reagan <john. > reagan@hp.com> writes:# > >VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > >  > >>J > >> EXCUSES ME!  SOMEBODY PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORP. IDH > >> FOR HP SO THAT I CAN CLAIM THIS "MONETARY DONATION" ON MY 1040 NEXT YEAR.  > >> > >> > > - > >If anything, just consider it a theft. :-)  >  > Is that tax deductible? :)    Non-profits don't owe taxes!  8)   >  >  > --2 > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM > 6 >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:49:37 -0700 # From: Joe Bloggs <JBloggs@acme.com> U Subject: Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. 8 Message-ID: <a4gle19hsuns4ba9sr9m3r2e8m3chffj7q@4ax.com>  C On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:17:49 GMT, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:   N >I just received the following information in a private email.  It's from HP's
 >web site: > H >| HP continues to support software developers on HP AlphaServer SystemsE >| running the HP OpenVMS operating system. While we no longer have a D >| subscription software service, you can have access to HP systems,K >| porting and migration assistance, licensing keys, technical information,  >| and software updates. >| >| SOFTWARE MEDIA KIT  >|H >| Partners who need media kits can purchase them from HP using the partC >| numbers listed below. Contact the DSPP discount purchase program E >| (toll free from the US - 800-249-3294, option 3) and we will quote - >| the software for you and place your order.  > J >WHAT THE FUCK!  WHY DID I GIVE HP $500+ CIRCA APRIL FOOL'S DAY IF THE SDKI >WAS TO BE DISCONTINUED?  AN APPROPRIATE DATE FOR THE COLLECTION OF THESE  >FUNDS.  > J >EXCUSES ME!  SOMEBODY PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORP. ID K >FOR HP SO THAT I CAN CLAIM THIS "MONETARY DONATION" ON MY 1040 NEXT YEAR.    > iirc, There used to be a cover-letter included w/ the CONDISTsD that gave a password to access the wwww.aclabs1.com site for condist
 software.       E Are the DSPP folks sending a similar letter (in leiu of the CONDISTs) F or, are we out of luck getting the condist s/w via downloads, as well?  B (I'm wondering on the "you can have access to ...software updates"  phrasing ...)  = the last psw/cover letter I have on hand, expired 04-JUN-2005   ? Besides all that, does anyone here know how much HPQ is asking  $ for the media kits?  ($500?, or ...)   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:27:55 GMT & From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com>Y Subject: Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. pos 1 Message-ID: <LyuGe.9572$ru.2411@news.cpqcorp.net>     VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:   > K > EXCUSES ME!  SOMEBODY PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORP. ID  L > FOR HP SO THAT I CAN CLAIM THIS "MONETARY DONATION" ON MY 1040 NEXT YEAR.  >  >   * If anything, just consider it a theft. :-)   --   John Reagan / HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project Leader  Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:21:58 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> Y Subject: Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. pos 0 Message-ID: <11el3p02ihm23d4@corp.supernews.com>    VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  O > I just received the following information in a private email.  It's from HP's  > web site:  > I > | HP continues to support software developers on HP AlphaServer Systems F > | running the HP OpenVMS operating system. While we no longer have a" > | subscription software service,  E Now that's really funny.  Sure, they will continue to support VMS on  , Alpha, but you just cannot get the software.  C Hey guys, if your work isn't going to be distributed, why not just   forget it and take a vacation.  3 The best part is they took and kept the money.  :-)    Bait and switch?   Class Action suit anyone?   G Looks like they'll do anything to turn the Alphas, which they're still   selling, into boat anchors.    Another class action anyone?  I I'm beginning to understand the people who tell me that they just cannot   trust Chumpaq anymore.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:22:53 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> Y Subject: Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. pos 0 Message-ID: <11el3qli1upp1e5@corp.supernews.com>    VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:\ > In article <LyuGe.9572$ru.2411@news.cpqcorp.net>, John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> writes: > " >>VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >> >>L >>>EXCUSES ME!  SOMEBODY PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORP. ID M >>>FOR HP SO THAT I CAN CLAIM THIS "MONETARY DONATION" ON MY 1040 NEXT YEAR.   >>>  >>>  >>, >>If anything, just consider it a theft. :-) >  >  > Is that tax deductible? :) >  >    A business lose is, I think.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:34:32 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>Y Subject: Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???" posting. pos ( Message-ID: <IhxGe.905$Bx5.625@trnddc09>   Dave Froble wrote:" > VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > A >> In article <LyuGe.9572$ru.2411@news.cpqcorp.net>, John Reagan   >> <john.reagan@hp.com> writes:  >>$ >>> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>>  >>> E >>>> EXCUSES ME!  SOMEBODY PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT  H >>>> CORP. ID FOR HP SO THAT I CAN CLAIM THIS "MONETARY DONATION" ON MY  >>>> 1040 NEXT YEAR. >>>> >>> . >>> If anything, just consider it a theft. :-) >> >> >> >> Is that tax deductible? :)  >> >> >  > A business lose is, I think.  F For personal income tax, I think it is one of those "Has to be greater than 10% of your AGI" things.   A We renewed our DSPP last September or there-about, so we are only 4 getting ripped off for 1/2 of it (June & Sept SPLs.)  F What really ticks me off is the complete lack of any notification, andC the fact that they don't continue the SDKs until the end of what we  signed up for.  E If they want to change the program so we no longer get kits unless we D subscribe ($$$), that's okay with me, but to change it retroactively5 when they already have our money is just plain theft.   3 Maybe they just screwed up and haven't noticed yet?   @ I just got me "DSPP membership expiring soon, please renew" mailA (2 copies with 2 second notices about 3 days later) about 2 weeks A ago.  They didn't say anything about SDK's and didn't ask for any  money when I renewed.   C I think a couple of years ago, they decoupled the SDK subscriptions G from the DSPP membership, and stopped charging for membership (formerly G about $110/year, IIRC.)  The SDK was still about $500/year.  We dropped G our Alpha condist subscription because it was redundant.  We always got F 2 copies of everything, and 3 of September because it seemed to be theF last set in the old subscription, and when we renewed (late Sept/early; Oct), they always seemed to send the latest set right away.   C Last year, they sent PAKs that expired on 1-Jan-2006 instead of the F expect ~10-Oct-2005.  I thought maybe they were trying to get everyone0 on the same cycle.  Don't know how this relates.         --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:36:30 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGT Subject: Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???"posting.0 Message-ID: <00A477DB.C1811C85@SendSpamHere.ORG>  \ In article <42EA791F.705172F3@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:# >> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  >>   >> >M >> > EXCUSES ME!  SOMEBODY PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORP. ID N >> > FOR HP SO THAT I CAN CLAIM THIS "MONETARY DONATION" ON MY 1040 NEXT YEAR. >  >Dear Mister VAXman,   > O >Perhaps the solution is to pressure HP to allow easier exchange of condist/SPL M >for hobbysists and include the now orphaned DSPP members in the scheme ? :-)  >:-) :-)  I I have nothing against the hobbyist program but why should I pay my good  H money so that hobbyists can play at the expense of be not having tools IH need to make a living.  If you haven't noticed, I not a Fortune 100 com- pany (maybe a MisFortune 100)     F >I am not surprised by this. The developper programme long ago stoppedI >supporting vax based developpers. And now that alpha system sales are to F >prematurely stop, it is no surprise that they want to stop supporting >development on ALpha. > O >Stupid management decision to help prop up the unwanted IA64, instead of smart M >VMS decisions to help foster ANY VMS development on any of the platforms VMS 	 >runs on.   G Hmm.  What's the term?  Self-fulfilling prophecy (profit-sea).  Too bad G the HP pirates sailing on the HP accountant-sea can't see this as a bad G analog to throwing the baby out with the bilge water.  (A vision of the F Crimson Permanent Assurance support film to Monty Python's The Meaning of Life came to mind.)   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 14:44:56 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Y Subject: Re: It's that time again for my quarterly "Where is the CONDIST???"posting. COND , Message-ID: <42EA791F.705172F3@teksavvy.com>  " > VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >  > > L > > EXCUSES ME!  SOMEBODY PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORP. IDM > > FOR HP SO THAT I CAN CLAIM THIS "MONETARY DONATION" ON MY 1040 NEXT YEAR.    Dear Mister VAXman,   N Perhaps the solution is to pressure HP to allow easier exchange of condist/SPLL for hobbysists and include the now orphaned DSPP members in the scheme ? :-) :-) :-)     E I am not surprised by this. The developper programme long ago stopped H supporting vax based developpers. And now that alpha system sales are toE prematurely stop, it is no surprise that they want to stop supporting  development on ALpha.   N Stupid management decision to help prop up the unwanted IA64, instead of smartL VMS decisions to help foster ANY VMS development on any of the platforms VMS runs on.   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:59:57 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: LaTeX ---> PDF $ Message-ID: <dce1rt$mpm$1@online.de>  F In article <dcdn37$f2q$1@lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>, m.kraemer@gsi.de (Michael Kraemer) writes:   O > In article <dcdmbh$4us$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip + > Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: K > > (With PostScript files produced from LaTeX via DVIPS, I found that the  M > > top of the page was cut off in the PDF version, but that is probably due  . > > to different assumptions about page size.  > < > I think I've observed that whenever one "cheats" by using D > stuff like \topmargin{-1cm} to increase the usable size of a page., > In PostScript it looks OK, but not in PDF.  C I am using a variant of the LaTeX letter style which uses a lot of  F internal macros, so it isn't easy to insert vertical space at the top.H Rather, I generated a PostScript file, and put in the following command 
 near the top:       0 -30 translate  G i.e. move down 30 (big) points (about 1 cm).  This moves things down in D the .PDF.  Interestingly, my (rather old) version of GV displays theG both the original PostScript file and the PDF file created from it as I F expect them.  On a PC, however, Acrobat Reader shows some text cut offG at the top.  If I modify the PostScript file and thus the PDF generated G from it, they look the same as the original versions in GV.  Apparently H GV is able to tell where the text really begins and puts this at a fixedE distance from the top, whereas Acrobat Reader displays things as they  really are.   G Interestingly, the PostScript files have always printed correctly on a  G real printer, so I don't know why Acrobat Reader cuts off some text at  F the top, unless there is a different convention of assumed margins in  PostScript and PDF.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:05:34 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>  Subject: Re: nsswitch equivalent+ Message-ID: <42EAE06E.D2F93F78@comcast.net>    S wrote: >  > bhushann@gmail.com wrote: 9 > >    I would like to know what is the equivalent of the 1 > > nsswitch.conf(unix) in UCX stack for OpenVMS.  > >  > A > UCX is called nowadays TCPIP, are you really interested in UCX?   D ...except that some folks still use the shorter name, "UCX" to avoidE confusion between TCP/IP the network stack (regardless of the product F name / vendor) and TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS ("TCPIP" for short) the product.  D It would be *TRULY* confusing to read about "TCPIP emulation" in theC Multinet documentation, instead of "UCX emulation". (A TCP/IP stack 7 "emulating" TCPIP? Is that like OpenVMS emulating VMS?)    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2005 15:20:56 -0700! From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com % Subject: This months Encompass Points C Message-ID: <1122675656.929481.197110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Dear Distribution lists,  F I wanted to forward this months Encompass Points along since there are< some highlights in my opinion.  First is the John WisniewskiD scholarship for the technology forum, if you remember John's passionF for students you will like this. Obviously the Technology Forum in NewE Orleans - You can save $100,  also there is a new Local User Group in F Atlanta and your support of any LUG is appreciated, to see if there is  a LUG in your area please visit:* http://www.encompassus.org/community/LUGS/  G The VMS group has always been committed to supporting Encompass via the , LUG's, the VMS SIG and the Encompass events.  
 Warm Regards,  Sue-Encompass member for years   -----Original Message-----4 From: Encompass [mailto:information@encompassUS.org]# Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 4:38 PM  To: Skonetski, Susan% Subject: Encompass Points - July 2005      _Encompass Points_   Issue 31, July 2005   ? Thank you for subscribing to the newsletter _Encompass Points_!    Your Encompass ID is 355048.  & To view this publication online, go to2 http://www.encompassUS.org/news/points/index.html.  A Encompass Points is a monthly e-mail newsletter for Encompass, an B independent, volunteer-driven organization providing HP users withB opportunities for education, peer networking, and vendor advocacy.   Issue Contents   -HP TECHNOLOGY FORUM 2005 ' -ENCOMPASS ANNUAL MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS / -2006 ENCOMPASS BOARD OF DIRECTORS SLATE CHOSEN . -UPCOMING BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING- AUGUST 2 -ENCOMPASS IN THE NEWS= -HP AND ENCOMPASS COMMIT TO OpenVMS HOBBYIST LICENESE PROGRAM E -MEET SPENCER SLEEPER, JOHN WISNIEWSKI MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENT  -ATLANTA LUG NEWS (ATALUG) -WRUG MEETING AUGUST 16 , -BOARD ELECTIONS SLATED FOR ENCOMPASS CANADA  -CONNX SOLUTIONS JOINS ENCOMPASS   HP TECHNOLOGY FORUM 2005 September 12-15  Morial Convention Center New Orleans, LA   A Now Live: HP Technology Forum 2005 Most Up-to-Date Session Lineup   F The complete lineup of sessions is now available for the HP TechnologyB Forum 2005, September 12-15 in New Orleans. There are more than 20C technology areas to help you address your most pressing challenges. E View for yourself the in-depth content offerings found in the session , catalog at http://www.hptechnologyforum.com.  C In more than 400 technical breakout sessions, you can hear from the F experts how to develop solutions to take right back to the office, andG learn side by side with your industry colleagues. In addition, the 200+ E labs will give you the hands-on experience you crave, and the diverse F networking opportunities - such as the Campgrounds - will allow you to@ dialogue with other HP technologists about your most pressing IT challenges.    Save $100 on Registration A Encompass members in good standing pay only $995 - the lowest fee = offered by Encompass in more than 15 years. Be sure that your 9 membership is current or upgrade your membership today at E http://www.encompassus.org Don't forget to include your Encompass ID# ? when registering for HP Technology Forum to receive your member G discount.  This will also ensure that you are included in all community G activities in New Orleans including the annual Encompass reception, LUG : and SIG meetings, Campgrounds, and much, much more!  Visit? http://www.hptechnologyforum.com for complete event details and  registration information.   & ENCOMPASS ANNUAL MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTSD Encompass will hold two annual meetings at HP Technology Forum 2005.F The annual Member Meeting will be held Wednesday, September 14 at 2:45B p.m. This is a formal meeting, open to Encompass members only (notF Associates). The Member Meeting features the annual President's ReportD and the Secretary/Treasurer's Report, as called for in the Encompass bylaws.   C The Open Board Meeting will be held Wednesday, September 14 at 3:30 D p.m. This meeting is open to all. At this year's Open Board Meeting,C you'll get a report on the Encompass strategy, a chance to meet the E candidates for the Encompass Board of Directors election and even ask  them questions.   . 2006 ENCOMPASS BOARD OF DIRECTORS SLATE CHOSEN: Six individuals of the Encompass community are running forF Director-at-Large positions for the 2006 Encompass Board of Directors.	 They are:   % -Kristi Browder, Silicon Laboratories  -Greg Frye, WubCo Inc.  -Rochelle Lauer, Yale University+ -John Maynen, Computer Sciences Corporation  -Wayne McDilda, Mirage Networks & -Clyde Poole, TECSys Development, Inc.  G We thank these individuals for their interest and dedication to serving G the Encompass community. For more information on the election timeline,  bylaws and an FAQ visit 7 http://www.encompassUS.org/news/electimeline2005.html .   . UPCOMING BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING - AUGUST 2C The Encompass Board of Directors normally meet the first Tuesday of F each month. The next conference call takes place on Tuesday, August 2.B Minutes from this meeting will be approved by the Board and posted thereafter.    ENCOMPASS IN THE NEWS B The HP Technology Forum 2005 was featured July 14 on Business WireF [http://www.businesswire.com], one of the leading internet sources forD late-breaking industry press releases. The announcement of astronautD John Glenn as the closing speaker, along with information on the sixE new sponsors for the event, was the focus of the release. To read the  complete text visit u http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&ampnewsId=20050714005224&ampnewsLang=en     < HP AND ENCOMPASS COMMIT TO OpenVMS HOBBYIST LICENESE PROGRAMB In 1997 at the DECUS Symposium in Cincinnati, the OpenVMS HobbyistD Program began. Over eight years later, 40,662 license PAKs have beenA generated and the program is still fulfilling its initial goal to C provide a low-cost solution for the VMS hobbyist who wants to learn C more about VMS and use the VMS system for personal use. The license C included in the Hobbyist program includes over 103 layered products @ including compilers, WYSIWYG word processors, and the ability to* cluster up to 96 OpenVMS systems together.  G Both Encompass and HP have recently reaffirmed their commitment to this C fantastic program. All current Encompass members and associates are G able to obtain a license using their Encompass ID. For more information < on the program, please visit http://www.openvmshobbyist.com.  F MEET SPENCER SLEEPER, ENCOMPASS - JOHN WISNIEWSKI MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP	 RECIPIENT E Congratulations to Spencer Sleeper, recipient of the 2005 Encompass - > John Wisniewski Memorial Scholarship.  Sleeper is a student atE Northeastern University in Boston, MA with a dual major in Management E Information Systems and Finance/Insurance.  While at Northeastern, he @ has excelled in his MIS courses, has made the Dean's List and isF currently pursuing his interest in programming, with languages such asE C++ and Java.  In his free time, Sleeper is the Vice President of the @ MIS Club and a member of the Finance and Investment Club and theC Student Center Governing Board.  Read more about Spencer Sleeper at 8 http://www.encompassUS.org/community/JWScholarship.html.   NEW ATLANTA LUG (ATALUG)@ A new ENcompass local user group, ATALUG, has formed in Atlanta,E Georgia. The steering committee met on July 28 at HP Atlanta Business B Center (ABC).  Lunch was provided courtesy of Compucom. If you areF interested in joining ATALUG, please visit the ATALUG-LIST website and join the mailing list:: http://listserv.encompassUS.org/Archives/atalug-list.html.  A Should you have any questions about Encompass or the LUG program, G please contact Karen Zader at Encompass HQ at 877-354-9887 or via email  at Karen.Zader@encompassUS.org.    WRUG MEETING AUGUST 16A The Western Reserve User Group (WRUG) will be having a meeting on D Tuesday, August 16 from 4:00-7:00 p.m. The topics of discussion willF include: "Web Application Security" with speaker Allen Perk, PresidentF of XLNsystems, and "Manage your IT like a business" with speaker LevinA Meccia, Senior Systems Specialist with Agilysys. For location and % directions, visit the WRUG website at " http://eisner.decus.org/lugs/wrug.  + BOARD ELECTIONS SLATED FOR ENCOMPASS CANADA D Encompass Canada is accepting nominations for its Board of Directors@ for this 2005 election year. Information on how you can get more= involved in the Association as a Board member can be found at 1 http://www.encompasscanada.com/elections-2005.htm    ###ADVERTISEMENT###  CONNX SOLUTIONS JOINS ENCOMPASS > CONNX Solutions is excited to become a member of the EncompassB community. Although CONNX is new to Encompass, they are not new to> OpenVMS! For over 11 years, CONNX Solutions has been providingD simplified data access to RMS and RDB databases. CONNX started as anD API and is now a full featured SQL gateway that allows SQL standardsA access to OpenVMS data sources using common tools such as Access, D Excel, Crystal Reports and Cognos using ODBC, JDBC, OLE DB, and .NET  F CONNX has evolved over the years to include connectivity to many otherC relational and legacy database sources and is now a full Enterprise B Information Integration (EII) tool. CONNX also features their Data> Synchronization Tool that replicates and synchronizes back-endD databases with a data target such as an operational data store, dataG mart, data warehouse or staging tables. Using change data capture (CDC) B technology, the Data Synchronization Tool allows users to scheduleG incremental updates which greatly reduces batch windows and the load on  system resources.   F According to Doug Wright, president of CONNX, "one of the most popularG uses for CONNX recently has been the need to connect .NET and other web A front-end applications with RMS databases. CONNX enables users to F extend the life of their legacy system by using modern development and= reporting tools to access valuable data from mission-critical  applications."  : For further information, please go to http://www.connx.com      % WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK AND SUBMISSIONS G Is there something you'd like to see in Encompass Points?  Let us know. G If you have news, updates or something special you'd like the Encompass < community know, please send to: information@encompassUS.org.   * * * > Interested in advertising? E-mail information@encompassUS.org.  ? Previous issues of Encompass Points are available in the online  archives. Access them at3 http://www.encompassUS.org/members/points_archive/.    * * * $ How to Avoid Missing our Newsletter:1 Your newsletter will be coming from this address: G {information@encompassUS.org} so you might consider adding this to your . addresses from which you want to receive mail.   Encompass Headquarters 401 N. Michigan Avenue Chicago, IL 60611  Tel: 877.354.9887    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:09:50 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>2 Subject: Re: To determine idle processes and users+ Message-ID: <42EAE16D.ACB7BA1E@comcast.net>    MUSTAFA ATAKAN wrote:  > J >  I am using openVMS 7.3.2, is there a way to determine idle processes orA > users and their idle life time "by using system commands not by . > third-party programs like hitman or others"?  H Of course there is. Take sample of SHOW PROCESS for every process on theE system and repeat periodically to compare the differences, then match G hose differences to your own definition of "idle". Google this group to / read about why that may be a special challenge.   C That said, may I assume that you're looking for an automated "idle" H process monitor that ships with the o.s.? Are you aware of any that come4 with any other common o.s. (WhineBloze, UN*X, etc.)?  F You could also Google this group for mention of some freeware known as "Watcher"...   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jul 2005 14:33:14 -0700" From: dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com" Subject: What exactly is PGFLQUOTAB Message-ID: <1122672794.654461.98530@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  C       According to the UAF Help, PGFLQUOTA is the number of pages a F process is allowed to use in the Page File.   Seems eminently sensible and logical, however;   A I have processes which constantly run out of PGFLQUOTA (and these E processes are starting out with >= 1M pages.     In addition, a "show E memory/files" command shows little if any pagefile use, i.e. "free" ~ 0 "size", and monitoring "Page Write I/O Rate = 0)  C so the question is where does the pgflquota for these processes go. ? Is there some other use for pgflquota which I don't know about.   F (I'm particularly interested in hearing from Cerner Millennium clientsE who might know the answer, or who are just interested in the answer.)    Dave.    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:07:49 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)& Subject: Re: What exactly is PGFLQUOTA$ Message-ID: <dcecs5$52m$1@online.de>  B In article <1122672794.654461.98530@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,% dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com writes:    E >       According to the UAF Help, PGFLQUOTA is the number of pages a H > process is allowed to use in the Page File.   Seems eminently sensible > and logical, however;  > C > I have processes which constantly run out of PGFLQUOTA (and these G > processes are starting out with >= 1M pages.     In addition, a "show G > memory/files" command shows little if any pagefile use, i.e. "free" ~ 2 > "size", and monitoring "Page Write I/O Rate = 0) > E > so the question is where does the pgflquota for these processes go. A > Is there some other use for pgflquota which I don't know about.  > H > (I'm particularly interested in hearing from Cerner Millennium clientsG > who might know the answer, or who are just interested in the answer.)   H Fire up MONITOR SYSTEM and in the "Page Fault Rate" display you will seeC a vertical bar.  Faults to the left are "hard faults" which hit the H disk.  To the right are soft faults, i.e. paging not to disk but within G different areas of memory.  So, paging doesn't necessarily involve the   disk.   B The HELP is a bit confusing, since it speaks of the "system pagingF file", which makes you think of a disk file.  However, the giveaway isE "pagelets" when talking about ALPHA---this unit (512 bytes---i.e. the A same as a VAX page or a disk block---on all machnines that I have D experience with, but could be more) refers only to RAM, not to disk  memory.   G In MONITOR SYSTEM, you also see the "Free List Size" and the "Mod List  I Size".  The modified list is "dirty memory", i.e. pages of RAM which are  C not free but have been used by another process, though the process  C doesn't have them at the moment.  It might pick them up again, but  I another process could get them as well.  In other words, a page(let) can  5 be paged out of the process without hitting the disk.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:55:54 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> & Subject: Re: What exactly is PGFLQUOTA, Message-ID: <42EAC20A.156F85EB@teksavvy.com>  # dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com wrote:  > E >       According to the UAF Help, PGFLQUOTA is the number of pages a H > process is allowed to use in the Page File.   Seems eminently sensible > and logical, however;   N On VAX at least, it is also used to setup your process' virtual memory map. InL essence, it determines how much memory your process thinks it has access to.I If it tries to allocate more memory, it will be told "sorry, insufficient  virtual memory".  ? And it also limits how much of the actual page file it can use.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:53:03 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>& Subject: Re: What exactly is PGFLQUOTA+ Message-ID: <42EAEB8F.B8CA59F0@comcast.net>   # dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com wrote:  > E >       According to the UAF Help, PGFLQUOTA is the number of pages a H > process is allowed to use in the Page File.   Seems eminently sensible > and logical, however;  > C > I have processes which constantly run out of PGFLQUOTA (and these G > processes are starting out with >= 1M pages.     In addition, a "show G > memory/files" command shows little if any pagefile use, i.e. "free" ~ 2 > "size", and monitoring "Page Write I/O Rate = 0) > E > so the question is where does the pgflquota for these processes go. A > Is there some other use for pgflquota which I don't know about.  > H > (I'm particularly interested in hearing from Cerner Millennium clientsG > who might know the answer, or who are just interested in the answer.)   G Be careful not to confuse the output of SHOW MEMORY with what you might G see using F$GETJPI( pid, item ) for how much of the process's PGFLQUOTA % is in use (PAGFILCNT vs. PGFLQUOTA).    H Without giving a dissertation on working sets, let me try to say it thisH way: PGFLQUOTA is how much "virtual memory" a process can allocate afterA it has exhausted its WSQUOTA or its WSEXTENT (physical memory) if < BORROWing is available (free page count exceeds BORROWLIM).   G When a process exhausts the limits of its working set, pages not in use F will be written out to the page file (paging). When the limits of bothH the working set and PGFLQUOTA have been reached and current memory needsH still cannot be satisfied, then you will typically see processes blow up8 with a message similar to "Insufficient virtual memory".  F Swapping, on the other hand, at least in VMS parlance, involves entireE working sets, as I understand it. When you see a process in an "xxxO" B state, such as LEFO, HIBO, etc., it's working set content has beenH written to the swap file and those memory pages released for other uses.C This is typically only seen when the system is under stress (memory 
 constrained).   F So, you're not likely to "see" paging via SHOW MEMORY, in the sense ofB knowing whether an individual process is experiencing an issue, as9 opposed to the system itself becoming memory constrained.   G That said, understand something about Cerner Millennium servers: Cerner D doesn't know how to tune them, since their demands are determined byF your workload (read: "transaction sizes and counts per unit of time"),F not the program by design. Although some processes are known to "leak"F PGFLQUOTA, many of these have been fixed. Check with the IRC to see ifH you have the latest fixes for the server program(s) your site uses. SomeD server processes can demand unusually high PGFLQUOTA, upwards of 3GBH (6291456 Alpha pagelets) if working set sizes are constrained (less than+ 750MB, WSQUOTA/WSEXTENT less than 1536000).   E Wayne Sauer gives an excellent presentation on working set and memory H management with a performance tuning focus. Contact Parsec and ask aboutC their courses and Wayne's sessions at the Tech Forum in "N'awlins".   	 See also: 4 http://www.djesys.com/freeware/vms/4038_freeware.zip  E ...and the PRCQUOTA.COM procedure in that archive. See the README.TXT 3 file in the archive for information about PRCQUOTA.   E At work, I have a batch job that monitors process quotas versus quota G usage and sends e-mail alerts when process quotas - including PGFLQUOTA  - are about to be exhausted.   From my hobbyist Alpha:    $ prcquota ddachtera  H  29-JUL-2005 21:55:40.02   User: DDACHTERA        Process ID:   00000433?  UIC: [30,1]               Node: DJAS01           Process Name: 	 DDACHTERA     Image:   >     Working Set                     Virtual Memory (Page File)3  Size:         8192                 Count:    87840 :  Quota:       16384 ( 50%)          Quota:    90000 ( 97%)  Extent:     131072 (  6%)  8  ASTCNT       =       98, ASTLM        =      100 ( 98%)8  BIOCNT       =      100, BIOLM        =      100 (100%)8  BYTCNT       =    99616, BYTLM        =    99616 (100%)8  DIOCNT       =      100, DIOLM        =      100 (100%)8  ENQCNT       =      300, ENQLM        =      300 (100%)8  FILCNT       =      299, FILLM        =      300 ( 99%)8  PRCCNT       =        0, PRCLM        =       32 (100%)8  TQCNT        =       30, TQLM         =       30 (100%)     --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:20:17 -0000 1 From: wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) 7 Subject: Where is Macro 64 in OpenVMS 7.3 Distribution? 1 Message-ID: <96A2BBF30wspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>   	 Hi Folks,   K We've got a package that requires Macro 64 to build.  Could someone please  H tell me where I can locate the installation kit, and the PAK for this?  K I've searched the FAQ and the freeware, and the only Macro 64 I could find  J was on V4 of the freeware (we're currently up to v7, I believe).  Is this 6 the version I should use, or is there something newer?   Many thanks!   ws   --   Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.421 ************************