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 Re: a sad day 
 Re: a sad day  Alpha emulator?  Re: Alpha emulator?  Re: Alpha emulator?  Re: Alpha emulator?  Re: Alpha emulator? # Re: Apple to switch to 8086, take 2 * booting alpha system from vax-only cluster? Re: HP to help governments with tracking users with NAtional ID ? Re: HP to help governments with tracking users with NAtional ID ? Re: HP to help governments with tracking users with NAtional ID  Re: OPC on VMS RE: OPC on VMS Re: OPC on VMS  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 09:58:21 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: a sad day+ Message-ID: <42A3130C.7D9B58BA@comcast.net>    "Dr. Dweeb" wrote: > 1 > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: 9 > > In article <42A07C85.58D90470@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei * > > <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > > G > >>> To me, the saddest part was that he wrote that he couldn't afford  > >>> health insurance.  > >>H > >> No, the saddest part is that the VMS marketplace had shrunk/changedG > >> to a point where he was no longer making enough money to live at a  > >> reasonable comfort level. > > F > > That can happen to many people.  It is possible for people to loseD > > their job through no fault of their own.  True, it's sad, but itI > > really adds insult to injury if such a loss results in not being able H > > to afford health insurance, and hence perhaps even results in death. > > E > >> Even where medical care is given to all citizens, you still need H > >> money to survive. Without money, it is hard to maintain friendshipsG > >> since you can't really participate in any of their activities. And < > >> you end up alone even if your body is physically sound. > > J > > Of course, that's the purpose of unemployment insurance and, when thatH > > expires, welfare.  In many countries, the level is determined by theG > > amount necessary to "participate in society".  Yes, it costs money, I > > paid for by those who work.  Yes, they would, at least at first, have C > > more money if they didn't have to pay for it.  However, I would F > > rather pay higher taxes than see people be shut out of society andH > > perhaps even die just because they lose their job.  And, in the longG > > run, it doesn't even more money for those still working, since many F > > people will turn to crime when there is no other way.  I'm sure itG > > costs more to support someone in jail than on welfare (and the U.S. H > > is in the top 5 countries in the world with respect to percentage of > > the population in jail). > N > Not to start a flame thread, but IIRC veterans have certain medical servicesM > provided free of charge by Uncle Sam via the Veterans Administration (which   > Terry alluded to in his blog).  D Anyone with nay first hand experience with VA medical assistance can+ attest to ... well, don't get me started...    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 09:35:57 -0700  From: Z <Z@no.spam>  Subject: Re: a sad day* Message-ID: <IRFoe.6981$K66.2900@fe02.lga>   David J Dachtera wrote: N >>Not to start a flame thread, but IIRC veterans have certain medical servicesM >>provided free of charge by Uncle Sam via the Veterans Administration (which   >>Terry alluded to in his blog).  F > Anyone with nay first hand experience with VA medical assistance can- > attest to ... well, don't get me started...   3 That it's almost as bad as every other "free" plan.    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Jun 2005 05:47:32 -0700 ! From: "Michael" <zspider@gte.net>  Subject: Alpha emulator?C Message-ID: <1117975652.030647.104350@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   5 We've had great success with the Charon VAX emulator, 5 but we need an Alpha emulator.  Is there a commercial 2 or open source Alpha emulator available?  If so, I3 would appreciate it if you could give me a point of  contact.   Thank you, Michael   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 06:02:38 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: Alpha emulator?( Message-ID: <opsrweiopgzgicya@hyrrokkin>  > On 5 Jun 2005 05:47:32 -0700, Michael <zspider@gte.net> wrote:  7 > We've had great success with the Charon VAX emulator, 7 > but we need an Alpha emulator.  Is there a commercial 4 > or open source Alpha emulator available?  If so, I5 > would appreciate it if you could give me a point of 
 > contact. >  > Thank you, Michael > ; Given that your source runs on either VAX or Alpha, I would ; be willing to bet money that the VAX emulated code will run  faster than AXP emulated code.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:04:29 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> Subject: Re: Alpha emulator?B Message-ID: <42a3066d$0$14747$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>   Michael wrote:7 > We've had great success with the Charon VAX emulator, 7 > but we need an Alpha emulator.  Is there a commercial 4 > or open source Alpha emulator available?  If so, I5 > would appreciate it if you could give me a point of 
 > contact. >  > Thank you, Michael >  Hi Michael,   G there are several Alpha Emulators out there, but most (or maybe all of  H them) are missing additional layers needed to boot OpenVMS. These would F be the firmware, SRM, Console and PAL Code layers that provide atomic I operations and services which the bare Alpha hardware doesn't provide. I  A only know of one Alpha Emulator which has booted OpenVMS. It was  B developed and used by OpenVMS Engineering in the early porting of D OpenVMS to Alpha. I don't believe it is available to the public, or D packaged in a form that would be amenable to use by persons without G unreserved access to the same hardware and individuals who created it.  F If you are willing to wait until Intel-based Servers achieve the same H performance advantage over Alpha as now enjoyed over the VAX, I suppose H then someone will then develop and sell a commercial VMS Alpha Emulator E solution. Until then most of us commercial or hobbyist users will be  A best served by the available new or used hardware (VAX, Alpha or  H Itanium) or one of the VAX emulators, in terms of the price/performance C equation. Even a very well-implemented Alpha Emulator on any other  I currently available single CPU is not likely to provide more performance    than a cheap, used Alpha System.  ; Here are the Alpha Emulator links which I have collected...    *Alpha Emulator Links*  F Alphaahb4 - Alpha CPU emulator (may not run any interesting Os) - SAIC) http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/vmslt03a/vu/   < AINT - Alpha interpreter - University of Colorado at Boulder9 https://systems.cs.colorado.edu/DistributedSoftware/Aint/    DEC Emulation Website + http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html    DEC Alpha Emulation Webpage * http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/Alpha.html  8 DECUServe VMS Conference 3411.1 - Alpha Emulator Posting? http://www.encompasserve.org/DECUServe/DECnotes/VMS/3411.1.HTML    M5 Simulator System  http://m5.eecs.umich.edu/   " SimCore/Alpha Functional Simulator8 http://www.yuba.is.uec.ac.jp/~kis/SimCore/functional.htm  = Simics - The Virtutech Simics full system simulation platform  https://www.simics.net/    SimOS  http://simos.stanford.edu/   SimOS - HP WRL Page 2 http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/projects/SimOS/   SimpleScalar LLC http://www.simplescalar.com/  : SimpleScalar - SimpleScalar Fixes & Improvements for Alpha, http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plakal/simplescalar/  ( SMTSIM - Multithreading Simulator - UCSD0 http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/users/tullsen/smtsim.html       *VAX Emulator Links*  
 CHARON-VAX. http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/index.htm  E Dave Airlie's "mirror" network driver (for local loopback to SIMH) -   Linux/VAX Porting Project 4 http://linux-vax.sourceforge.net/download/index.html   DEC VAX Emulation ( http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/vax.html   eVAX - Forest Edge Software $ http://www.forest-edge.net/evax.html    Graham Toal's - VmsEmulator Page% http://gtoal.com/software/VmsEmulator   7 SIMH - Computer History Simulation Project - Bob Supnik  http://simh.trailing-edge.com/  " ts10 - FTP Archive - Timothy Stark) ftp://ftp.firesword7.net/pub/ts10/develop    ts10 - SourceForge% http://sourceforge.net/projects/ts10/   6 VAX Emulator Services extend application life - GoogleD http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/msg/e4ea54a9226b95f9   VAX/VMS on Linux using SIMH : http://www.wherry.com/gadgets/retrocomputing/vax-simh.html     Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Jun 2005 09:14:25 -0700 ! From: "Michael" <zspider@gte.net>  Subject: Re: Alpha emulator?C Message-ID: <1117988065.168266.283840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Tom Linden wrote:   ; Given that your source runs on either VAX or Alpha, I would ; be willing to bet money that the VAX emulated code will run  faster than AXP emulated code.   **************7 Thank you for responding, Tom.  I should have been more > explicit with my application.  I need to replace an Alpha that; is in a piece of automatic test equipment (ATE) we use.  An : earlier version of the ATE used a VAX, and we used a Q-Bus> adapter and pulled the VAX card out of it, along with a couple6 peripherals (memory and hard drive?) and ran from a PC with the ATE image on it.   9 Now we need to do the same thing with the Alpha.  Because 7 the Alpha and VAX hardware architecture varies so much, ; I don't think that swapping a VAX emulator in for the Alpha  is a feasible option.        Thanks, Michael    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:55:12 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>  Subject: Re: Alpha emulator?0 Message-ID: <11a67vsbrq81b1a@corp.supernews.com>   Tom Linden wrote: @ > On 5 Jun 2005 05:47:32 -0700, Michael <zspider@gte.net> wrote: > 8 >> We've had great success with the Charon VAX emulator,8 >> but we need an Alpha emulator.  Is there a commercial5 >> or open source Alpha emulator available?  If so, I 6 >> would appreciate it if you could give me a point of >> contact.  >> >> Thank you, Michael  >>= > Given that your source runs on either VAX or Alpha, I would = > be willing to bet money that the VAX emulated code will run   > faster than AXP emulated code.    Only a fool would take that bet.  I Perhaps the need for Alpha has to do with the VMS features that were not  ; put in VAX/VMS, or the need for 64 bit addresses, and such.   G Regardless, it will be some time (if ever) before another archetecture  D will be able to produce performance equal to today's Alphas.  Since H today's CPUs are hitting the wall on clock speeds, and shrinks are also F closing in on the point where the size and number of atoms seperating B paths is an issue, without getting into something new, sub-atomic C structures, or such, a single CPU fast enough to emulate Alpha and  / provide better performance just may not happen.   < As to why the poster isn't considering Alphas, can't figure.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Jun 2005 02:44:35 -0700 + From: "Daniel Gustafsson" <daniel@mimer.se> , Subject: Re: Apple to switch to 8086, take 2A Message-ID: <1117964675.014283.3700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    Anders Ekl=F6f wrote: % > Doc. <doc@openvms-rocks.com> wrote:  >  > > J > > This was brought up on slashdot.  It's a little more complex than justL > > assuming Apple will move to x86.  The situation is such that Apple could; > > license PPC such that Intel could manufacture for them.  > I > And x86 is so not likely. Speculation of anything less than Xeon is BS. E > And Xeon wasn't mentioned in the C|net article. Xeon *could* make a B > great engine for Macs. But Intel making PPC seems more likely...  D That Intel would begin to design and/or manufacture PowerPC chips isD extremely unlikely. There are lot of political reasons for that, andD Intel is not a merchant foundry these days. It would also take years, before they had a chip that Apple could use.  F It's actually hilarius to read the Slashdot comments on this story (asB usual on Slashdot)... (Intel making PPC chips, Apple interested inE Cell, Intel making Cell chips! etc) I don't think Apple is in any way 5 interested in Cell, it may actually be a distraction.   D I think Apple want to use the current momentum they have on Mac OS XG and if they want to grow their market share going to x86 is a very good  option.    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Jun 2005 09:44:11 -0700 / From: "Chaskiel Grundman" <cgrundman@gmail.com> 3 Subject: booting alpha system from vax-only cluster C Message-ID: <1117989851.400148.206240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   B I am attempting to install openvms 7.3-1 on a Personal WorkstationG 433au system. Unfortunately, the hd68 <-> centronincs scsi cable I have D appears to be no good and there aren't any places around here that I can just walk in and buy one.   C So, I decided to try booting the alpha from an existing vax cluster D (actually running on SIMH, but that does not seem to be the problem)   What I've done so far:  E 1) copied [VMS$COMMON] from the alpha installation media to a disk on  the vax 8 2) copied cluster_authorize.dat to the alpha system disk 3) created a minimal root G 4) constructed ALPHAVMSSYS.PAR using an account I have on another alpha D vms system (is there a way to make the vax sysman or sysgen write an alpha-format parameter file?)  5) configured lancp as follows:  ALPHA (00-00-F8-75-A3-EB):    MOP DLL:  Load file:   APB.EXE)             Load root:   $1$DUB1:<SYS10.> (             Boot type:   Alpha satellite  E When I try to boot the alpha node, the following message is displayed ) in opcom and recorded in the lan$acp.log: # LANACP MOP V4 Downline Load Service E Could not respond to load request on XQA0 from ALPHA, error obtaining 
 cluster pa rameters: Requested file:  $1$DUB1:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]APB.EXE  G Does anyone know where lanacp is looking for the cluster parameters and F how to provide them? a vax/simh satellite node boots successfully from this system.   Thanks.   F P.S. I'm aware that this is unsupported, and that this will likely not8 be the last problem I encounter. I'd like to try anyway.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 07:58:55 -0400- From: William Webb <william.w.webb@gmail.com> H Subject: Re: HP to help governments with tracking users with NAtional ID7 Message-ID: <8660a3a1050605045824535869@mail.gmail.com>   9 On 6/5/05, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:  > William Webb wrote: I > > John, I respect your brilliance when it comes to VMS marketing ideas, 1 > > but Gulag/Gitmo is still a false equivalence.  >=20J > > And AI didn't say too much about the chopping off of heads, mutilationA > > of corpses or so-called "honour killings" of women, did they?  >=20 >=20J > If you compare the USA against the worse human rights offenders, I guessB > you can feel good knowing that you're not the worse human rightsF > offender in the world. But it is quite a contrast from the days whenJ > americans would never tolerate that their government not uphold the best& > human rights standards in the world. >=20F > And just because USA media do not talk about Amnesty Intl action andI > reports in the past doesn't mean that they have not done them about all E > sorts of events in many countries. But it is telling that AI is now G > operating in the USA , not to collect funds to help it protect rights J > elsewhere, but to protect rights in the USA against your government. ButD > I expect you will refuse to accept such statement since you cannotH > possibly believe that your government would perform the horrible stuff2 > the rest of the world is seeing the USA perform. >=20  E Sorry, won't wash.  This, along with the AI report, are both cases of + "making the perfect the enemy of the good".   @ In other words, we're being condemned because we're not perfect.  E And did you know that the Army report cited numerous instances of the * Koran having been desecrated by DETAINEES?   from the AP article:  < Hood also said his investigation found 15 cases of detainees@ mishandling their own Qurans. "These included using a Quran as aC pillow, ripping pages out of the Quran, attempting to flush a Quran C down the toilet and urinating on the Quran," Hood's report said. It ; offered no possible explanation for the detainees' motives.   E In the most recent of those 15 cases, a detainee on Feb. 18 allegedly A ripped up his Quran and handed it to a guard, stating that he had ? given up on being a Muslim. Several guards witnessed this, Hood 	 reported.   C I'd suggest that you pick up and read Lee Harris' "Civilization And  It's Enemies".  E While I cannot say I agree with every point he makes in his book, one F of his them is that when someone makes you their mortal enemy, you are1 changed *whether you want to be changed or not".'   A This is really off-topic.  If you really want to go on with this,  suggest another location.    WWWebb  G BTW, jf- did you get the pixellated cat "AlphaPowered logos I sent you?      --=20 C NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  correspondence. C All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for 8 services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at# http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:14:51 +0200 + From: Karsten Nyblad <nospam@nospam.nospam> H Subject: Re: HP to help governments with tracking users with NAtional ID= Message-ID: <42a308fe$0$67257$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>    JF Mezei wrote: F > And just because USA media do not talk about Amnesty Intl action andI > reports in the past doesn't mean that they have not done them about all E > sorts of events in many countries. But it is telling that AI is now G > operating in the USA , not to collect funds to help it protect rights J > elsewhere, but to protect rights in the USA against your government. ButD > I expect you will refuse to accept such statement since you cannotH > possibly believe that your government would perform the horrible stuff2 > the rest of the world is seeing the USA perform.  H AI has a principle that their reports on a country are never written in H that country.  That is for two reasons:  First to make sure the writers H do not become victims of human rights violations, and secondly to avoid 7 the reports being biased due to the writers prejudices.   G Besides, AI also reports on minor violations of human rights.  I would  G be surprised if they have never been criticizing Canada.  However, the  ; journalist usually do not write about the minor violations.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:38:29 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> H Subject: Re: HP to help governments with tracking users with NAtional ID0 Message-ID: <11a670h1jcdf3ac@corp.supernews.com>   William Webb wrote:   H > And AI didn't say too much about the chopping off of heads, mutilation? > of corpses or so-called "honour killings" of women, did they?   8 Perspective.  A simple word.  Yet it can be so powerful.  H I've always been proud of my country, even while studying the sometimes I less than desirable actions it's taken in the past.  Many people in this  F country have the perspective that the US stands for decency, protects C the weak, etc, etc, etc.  Many people in this country do stand for  G decency, protecting the weak, etc.  We're not perfect, but we can wish   for perfection.   H The US doesn't have to resort to chopping off heads and such to present I the percept to many that it's backsliding.  If George is leading the way  I on such backsliding, that harm is much more then almost anything else he  ? can do, and far offsets any good that any may think he's doing.   D Defending US actions that are not what many in the US would expect, H regardless of how much less they may be when compared to the actions of F others, just isn't appropriate.  Regardless of scale, bad actions are I just that, bad actions.  By engaging in such, we allow others to pull us   down to their level.  D I read something long ago that was both funny and accurate.  "Don't H argue with a fool, he'll pull you down to his level and others won't be E able to tell the difference between you and him."  Maybe the wording  E isn't right, but you should get the idea.  I think the same goes for  3 some of the allegations I've read in the last week.    Dave   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Jun 2005 05:06:40 -0700 ' From: "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com>  Subject: Re: OPC on VMS C Message-ID: <1117973200.554244.225490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Have you checked out BaseStar?  > It's an HP product for VMS but I don't know much about it yet.  ) I did see some PC-in-the-middle products.    Jean Mertens wrote:  > HI,  > L > I've the same need and have not been able to locate any OPC client for VM= S=2EL > One additional need I've is to have the OPC client to react on un-sollici= ted # > input ( Asynchronous system trap) A > to capture event from external devices (PLC or DCS) OPC server. L > The only solution I've been given has a PC in between the VMS and the ser= ver  > that acts as the client K > and have the PC hooked via LAT/serial to the Vax/Alpha - Unacceptable for 3 > process control knowin the "stability" of windows  > @ > "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> a =E9crit dans le message de? > news:1117831159.487579.217700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... ? > > I may need to integerate OPC into a legacy VMS application.  > > G > > I need to get data from an OPC system.  read and write data points.  > > E > > 1. Are there any inexpensive OPC clients for VMS?  Any experience F > > with clients?  I find some list of available clients with I search1 > > this group, but I don't know much about them.  > > A > > 2. Is it realistic to roll my own limited-function interface?  > >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 10:49:22 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>  Subject: RE: OPC on VMS R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB5ED913@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----1 > From: tadamsmar [mailto:tadamsmar@yahoo.com]=20  > Sent: June 5, 2005 8:07 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: OPC on VMS  >=20  > Have you checked out BaseStar? >=20@ > It's an HP product for VMS but I don't know much about it yet. >=20+ > I did see some PC-in-the-middle products.  >=20 > Jean Mertens wrote:  > > HI,  > > B > > I've the same need and have not been able to locate any OPC=20 > client for VMS. B > > One additional need I've is to have the OPC client to react=20 > on un-sollicited% > > input ( Asynchronous system trap) C > > to capture event from external devices (PLC or DCS) OPC server. @ > > The only solution I've been given has a PC in between the=20 > VMS and the server > > that acts as the client ? > > and have the PC hooked via LAT/serial to the Vax/Alpha -=20  > Unacceptable for5 > > process control knowin the "stability" of windows  > > B > > "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> a =E9crit dans le message deA > > news:1117831159.487579.217700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... A > > > I may need to integerate OPC into a legacy VMS application.  > > > ? > > > I need to get data from an OPC system.  read and write=20  > data points. > > > G > > > 1. Are there any inexpensive OPC clients for VMS?  Any experience H > > > with clients?  I find some list of available clients with I search3 > > > this group, but I don't know much about them.  > > > C > > > 2. Is it realistic to roll my own limited-function interface?  > > >  >=20     Re: OPC client for OpenVMS ..    This might be of interest:   http://www.infosat.fr/infosat/  " And the OpenVMS Wizard's response:. http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_3244.html   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 17:20:08 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> Subject: Re: OPC on VMS B Message-ID: <42a3182a$0$14737$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>   Main, Kerry wrote:   >>-----Original Message-----/ >>From: tadamsmar [mailto:tadamsmar@yahoo.com]   >>Sent: June 5, 2005 8:07 AM >>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  >>Subject: Re: OPC on VMS  >>  >>Have you checked out BaseStar? >>@ >>It's an HP product for VMS but I don't know much about it yet. >>+ >>I did see some PC-in-the-middle products.  >> >>Jean Mertens wrote:  >> >>>HI, >>> ? >>>I've the same need and have not been able to locate any OPC   >> >>client for VMS.  >>? >>>One additional need I've is to have the OPC client to react   >> >>on un-sollicited >>$ >>>input ( Asynchronous system trap)B >>>to capture event from external devices (PLC or DCS) OPC server.= >>>The only solution I've been given has a PC in between the   >> >>VMS and the server >> >>>that acts as the client< >>>and have the PC hooked via LAT/serial to the Vax/Alpha -  >> >>Unacceptable for >>4 >>>process control knowin the "stability" of windows >>> ? >>>"tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> a crit dans le message de @ >>>news:1117831159.487579.217700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >>> ? >>>>I may need to integerate OPC into a legacy VMS application.  >>>>; >>>>I need to get data from an OPC system.  read and write   >> >>data points. >>E >>>>1. Are there any inexpensive OPC clients for VMS?  Any experience F >>>>with clients?  I find some list of available clients with I search1 >>>>this group, but I don't know much about them.  >>>>A >>>>2. Is it realistic to roll my own limited-function interface?  >>>> >> >  >  > Re: OPC client for OpenVMS ..  >  > This might be of interest: >   > http://www.infosat.fr/infosat/ > $ > And the OpenVMS Wizard's response:0 > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_3244.html > 	 > Regards  >  > Kerry Main > Senior Consultant  > HP Services Canada > Voice: 613-592-4660  > Fax: 613-591-4477  > kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom > (remove the DOT's and AT)  > 6 > OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.  G You may also want to consider the list of OPC OpenVMS solutions in the   COV posting at...   D http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/msg/be23d854653cd1f5  G If you don't find the software specific to your problem there, I would  I suggest contacting the listed firms directly. and ask them for what they  G may have as a solution for OpenVMS that fits. You are not likely to be  I the first to have these questions for them. If you learn of anything new  I   relevant to the VMS community, then please report it in this thread if   at all possible.   Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.312 ************************