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 Re: EIA0:?? Re: HP to help governments with tracking users with NAtional ID $ HTDIG with OSU Webserver and OpenVMS  Re: Leo DiCaprio is Circumcised?5 Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Behavior explained + Logical Names and Privileges - Minor Whinge / Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Minor Whinge / Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Minor Whinge / Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Minor Whinge / Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Minor Whinge  Re: OPC on VMS RE: OPC on VMS OSU - VMS - HTDIG ) Possible to stop/disable FTP "cd" command   Possible to top FTP "cd" command$ Re: Possible to top FTP "cd" command* Security Company - New OpenVMS Testimonial. Re: Security Company - New OpenVMS Testimonial' Settings for 10/100 half/full ethernet? + Re: Settings for 10/100 half/full ethernet? + Re: Settings for 10/100 half/full ethernet?  Re: [OT] When I'm sixty-one  Re: [OT] When I'm sixty-one  Re: [OT] When I'm sixty-one   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:59:42 +10006 From: "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au> Subject: Re: a sad dayX Message-ID: <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05BE3E@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.local>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C56A76.14169B06 . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   7 From: Dave Weatherall [mailto:djw-nothere@nospam.nohow]  > 	 >> Folks,  >>=20 J >> If you go to his web site and read this article it explains a lot about! >> what he had been going through F >> http://www.shannonknowshpc.com/stories.php?story=3D05/05/25/6716036 >>=20 7 >> I am sorry that I can not really talk about this yet  >> sue > G >Sorry to hear this. Thanks for the ref Sue. As I read it, and other=20 I >pages, I realised he was the same age as I. A colleague at work asked=20 D >me his age when I told hime of Terrry"s death. I'd guessed a bit=20# >higher. There but for the grace...  >  >Rest in peace Terry.  >  >--=20 >Cheers - Dave W.  > L I met Terry once when he came to Sydney to give a keynote address back when=L  it was still Dec.  An excellent speaker and with the conviction of what he=  was speaking about.  L After our small chat, he would send me (for free) copies of his journal.  H=@ e said it was too much hassle to go through currency conversion.  L I do not know how much of his Vietnam experience "helped" his depression, b= ut I got the impression a lot.  L As others have said -- R.I.P., Terry.  It was a pleasant experience to have=	  met you.    Regards, Paddy    G ***********************************************************************   C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged @ and confidential information intended only for the use of the=20D addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of=20C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise D the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,=207 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.   C If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid=20 C immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the=20 ? individual sender except where the sender expressly and with=20 C authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  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Thanks for the ref Sue. As I read it, and other<BR> L &gt;pages, I realised he was the same age as I. A colleague at work asked<B= R>L &gt;me his age when I told hime of Terrry&quot;s death. I'd guessed a bit<B= R>* &gt;higher. There but for the grace...<BR> &gt;<BR> &gt;Rest in peace Terry.<BR> &gt;<BR>
 &gt;--<BR> &gt;Cheers - Dave W.<BR> &gt;<BR>L I met Terry once when he came to Sydney to give a keynote address back when=L  it was still Dec.&nbsp; An excellent speaker and with the conviction of wh= at he was speaking about.<BR>  <BR>L After our small chat, he would send me (for free) copies of his journal.&nb=I sp; He said it was too much hassle to go through currency conversion.<BR>  <BR>L I do not know how much of his Vietnam experience &quot;helped&quot; his dep=, ression, but I got the impression a lot.<BR> <BR>L As others have said -- R.I.P., Terry.&nbsp; It was a pleasant experience to=  have met you.<BR> <BR> Regards, Paddy<BR> </FONT>  </P>   <FONT SIZE=3D3><BR>  <BR>K ***********************************************************************<BR>  <BR>G "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged<BR> B and confidential information intended only for the use of the <BR>F addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of <BR>G this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise<BR> F the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, <BR>; distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.<BR>  <BR>E If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid <BR> E immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the <BR> A individual sender except where the sender expressly and with <BR> G authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  TransGrid uses<BR> B virus-scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses<BR>  contained in any attachment.<BR> <BR>@ Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now<BR>( firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au"<BR> <BR>K ***********************************************************************<BR>  </FONT>  </BODY>  </HTML> ) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C56A76.14169B06--    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:48:33 +1200$ From: "Lurker" <nowhere@nothing.com> Subject: Re: a sad day2 Message-ID: <Z3Uoe.5490$U4.776839@news.xtra.co.nz>  > "Dr. Dweeb" <NOSPAM_5msg0h202@sneakemail.com> wrote in message7 news:42a3a141$0$67255$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk... 
 > Z wrote: > > David J Dachtera wrote: 7 > > That it's almost as bad as every other "free" plan.  > J > Like the free plan people have in countries like, well, denmark, germany > etc.  E There is no free lunch (or health care) Think about it - the doctors, L nurses, ambulance drivers, janitors etc etc all expect to get the pay-check.L Add costs, taxes and other expenses - it's just not free. If someone gets it4 for "free" it simply means that someone(s) else pay.  J Sure, it may be nice to know you have a sort of social security safety-netJ below you - but it does not come "free" - you pay for that (taxes anyone?)   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:12:41 +10006 From: "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au> Subject: Re: a sad dayX Message-ID: <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05BE3F@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.local>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C56A77.E43DCC8E . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable          -----Original Message----- From: Z [mailto:Z@no.spam] Sent: Mon 6/6/2005 3:27 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  Subject: Re: a sad day =20  Dr. Dweeb wrote:G >>>Anyone with nay first hand experience with VA medical assistance can . >>>attest to ... well, don't get me started...  5 >>That it's almost as bad as every other "free" plan.   K > Like the free plan people have in countries like, well, denmark, germany=   > etc.   5 Is dying while waiting for treatment really worth it?   L Over here (.au), a lot of people have died from being treated.  I would sus=L pect that many of the errors the doctors made have been made elsewhere.  Bu= t...  L I think the recent Queensland ex-Indian (or similar) guy was called Dr.Deat= h -- not the euthanasia guy.   Regards, Paddy        G ***********************************************************************   C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged @ and confidential information intended only for the use of the=20D addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of=20C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise D the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,=207 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.   C If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid=20 C immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the=20 ? individual sender except where the sender expressly and with=20 C authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  TransGrid uses > virus-scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses contained in any attachment.  < Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now$ firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au"  G ***********************************************************************     ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C56A77.E43DCC8E - Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   1 <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">  <HTML> <HEAD>L <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> K <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version 6.5.7226.0">  <TITLE>Re: a sad day</TITLE> </HEAD>  <BODY>) <!-- Converted from text/plain format -->  <BR> <BR> <BR>  0 <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR>? From: Z [<A HREF=3D"mailto:Z@no.spam">mailto:Z@no.spam</A>]<BR>  Sent: Mon 6/6/2005 3:27 PM<BR> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com<BR>  Subject: Re: a sad day<BR> <BR> Dr. Dweeb wrote:<BR>L &gt;&gt;&gt;Anyone with nay first hand experience with VA medical assistanc=	 e can<BR> ; &gt;&gt;&gt;attest to ... well, don't get me started...<BR>  <BR>I &gt;&gt;That it's almost as bad as every other &quot;free&quot; plan.<BR>  <BR>L &gt; Like the free plan people have in countries like, well, denmark, germa= ny<BR>
 &gt; etc.<BR>  <BR>9 Is dying while waiting for treatment really worth it?<BR>  <BR>L Over here (.au), a lot of people have died from being treated.&nbsp; I woul=L d suspect that many of the errors the doctors made have been made elsewhere= &nbsp; But...<BR>  <BR>L I think the recent Queensland ex-Indian (or similar) guy was called Dr.Deat=  h -- not the euthanasia guy.<BR> <BR> Regards, Paddy<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT>  </P>   <FONT SIZE=3D3><BR>  <BR>K ***********************************************************************<BR>  <BR>G "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged<BR> B and confidential information intended only for the use of the <BR>F addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of <BR>G this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise<BR> F the sender.  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If someone gets it 5 >for "free" it simply means that someone(s) else pay.  > K >Sure, it may be nice to know you have a sort of social security safety-net K >below you - but it does not come "free" - you pay for that (taxes anyone?)   K Just to clarify a few things: in Germany you pay for your health insurance. I As an employee your employer pays half of it, if you are self-empoyed you I pay all of it. The amount you pay depends on your salary/income. Children J and husbands/spouses are free if they have no income and the other partnerN pays his insurance. There are some more details, but the principle is as such.  K Finally I have been in hospitals in Germany, Tonga, Turkey and the USA. The N differences I found between the States and Germany are neglectable besides the6 fact that the prize in the US was considerably higher.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:44:18 -0700  From: Z <Z@no.spam>  Subject: Re: a sad day* Message-ID: <xyXoe.4276$rt3.3675@fe03.lga>   JF Mezei wrote: Q > Health of Cubans is on average much better than health of americans on average.   B Yeah, right. That must be why they had a near epidemic of vitamin I deficiency 5 years ago. And why the best and the brightest medical minds  & in Cuba couldn't diagnose it properly.  D Those Cubans must be dumb as stumps, fleeing that paradise in inner  tubes for the US shore.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:57:32 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>  Subject: Re: a sad day0 Message-ID: <11a8huogb17srd2@corp.supernews.com>   Z wrote: > Dr. Dweeb wrote: > I >>>> Anyone with nay first hand experience with VA medical assistance can 0 >>>> attest to ... well, don't get me started... >  > 7 >>> That it's almost as bad as every other "free" plan.  >  > D >> Like the free plan people have in countries like, well, denmark,  >> germany etc.  >  > 7 > Is dying while waiting for treatment really worth it?   @ Is dying because you cannot afford medical insurance any better?  H Actual case, my premiums have increased on average 25% per year for the I last 6 years, and I'm told to expect it to continue.  I started out with  3 no deductable, and had to change that.  Small help.   4 At some point, you decide you cannot afford to live.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:09:52 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: a sad day$ Message-ID: <d82010$vdf$6@online.de>  B In article <42a2a454$0$78280$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk>, "Dr.1 Dweeb" <NOSPAM_5msg0h202@sneakemail.com> writes:    O > Not to start a flame thread, but IIRC veterans have certain medical services  N > provided free of charge by Uncle Sam via the Veterans Administration (which   > Terry alluded to in his blog).  F Terry never made a secret of the fact that he was a veteran.  I don't G know what kind of benefits the VA offers or why he didn't take them up  G if they were available.  Certainly in many cases the mental damages of  G war can be as bad as the physical ones, so I would be surprised if the  5 VA didn't have medical services in this area as well.    ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:15:40 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: a sad day$ Message-ID: <d820bs$vdf$7@online.de>  A In article <39Roe.7167$K66.4324@fe02.lga>, Z <Z@no.spam> writes:     > Dr. Dweeb wrote:I > >>>Anyone with nay first hand experience with VA medical assistance can 0 > >>>attest to ... well, don't get me started... > 7 > >>That it's almost as bad as every other "free" plan.  > M > > Like the free plan people have in countries like, well, denmark, germany   > > etc. > 7 > Is dying while waiting for treatment really worth it?   G I am now completely recovered from cancer which I got last September.   I My chemotherapy cost many times my annual contribution (mandatory health  E insurance taken out of my salary) and perhaps many times my lifetime  C contribution.  While long waiting lists might be a problem in some  ( countries, it's not the case in Germany.  H The alternatives are not "dying while waiting for treatment" and having G everything private and/or too expensive for many people to pay.  There   are other possibilities.   ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:24:31 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: a sad day$ Message-ID: <d820sf$vdf$8@online.de>  ; In article <Z3Uoe.5490$U4.776839@news.xtra.co.nz>, "Lurker"  <nowhere@nothing.com> writes:   L > > Like the free plan people have in countries like, well, denmark, germany > > etc. > G > There is no free lunch (or health care) Think about it - the doctors, N > nurses, ambulance drivers, janitors etc etc all expect to get the pay-check.N > Add costs, taxes and other expenses - it's just not free. If someone gets it6 > for "free" it simply means that someone(s) else pay. > L > Sure, it may be nice to know you have a sort of social security safety-netL > below you - but it does not come "free" - you pay for that (taxes anyone?)  A No-one claimed it was free in the sense that no-one pays for it.  G Rather, some folks pointed out advantages of a tax-based system: costs  F spread more evenly; government control of costs rather than companies E charging what the market well bear, even if it makes health care too   expensive for some.   I I grew up in the U.S. and knew many people who went into medicine solely  ? for the money, without any interest in medicine, either from a  I biological or social point of view.  One fellow pupil who had moved from  H Canada since his father (a physician) could make more money in the U.S.,@ and who later became a physician himself, honestly claimed that F physicians in the U.S. were not to blame if they earn too much, since H the AMA sets the prices.  Of course, the AMA reflects the wishes of the  physicians.   F (This same guy, when he was 17(!), came up to me after Latin class andC whispered to me, completely astonished, "did you hear Amy fart?"  I H replied "yes, what's the big deal?", and he honestly said "I didn't knowG girls could fart!".  I'm not saying his command of biology was typical, B but the fact that he even wanted to become a physician is scary.)    ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:28:35 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: a sad day$ Message-ID: <d82143$vdf$9@online.de>  ) In article <d81cqs$rn4$1@news.BelWue.DE>, ? gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann) writes:    M > Just to clarify a few things: in Germany you pay for your health insurance. K > As an employee your employer pays half of it, if you are self-empoyed you K > pay all of it. The amount you pay depends on your salary/income. Children L > and husbands/spouses are free if they have no income and the other partnerP > pays his insurance. There are some more details, but the principle is as such.  E Right.  Some countries finance health care through taxes rather than  I salary contributions, and there is discussion of moving to such a scheme  C in Germany.  The advantage is that everyone pays in (and can claim  H benefits) whereas in the present system it is just employees.  This can D have the disadvantage that rising health costs more directly affect F labour costs, and if that leads to more unemployment then the size of C the contribution has to increase (or benefits have to be cut).  In  G countries with a tax-based health-care system, the total costs tend to  G be less, probably because there is less unnecessary paperwork involved.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:43:33 -0700  From: Z <Z@no.spam>  Subject: Re: a sad day, Message-ID: <3X%oe.49446$rt1.30960@fe04.lga>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: I > Rather, some folks pointed out advantages of a tax-based system: costs  H > spread more evenly; government control of costs rather than companies G > charging what the market well bear, even if it makes health care too   > expensive for some.   H Is tax-based fair? If so, why not apply it to more essential items like G food, water, clothes and housing? If you make $100K/yr, that burger is  + $15, but if you make $50K/yr, it's only $5.    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 10:25:41 -0700 ) From: "Joe Sewell" <ultrajoe@spamcop.net> " Subject: Re: ABC problem with diskC Message-ID: <1118078741.459396.221270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    William Webb wrote: I > On 25 May 2005 07:32:20 -0700, Joe Sewell <ultrajoe@spamcop.net> wrote: H > > Our organization has just gone to using ABC for networked backups ofJ > > machines scattered throughout the campus.  My particular machine seemsK > > to have a problem.  It has a 9-bay StorageWorks tower with 7 18GB disks E > > in it.  One of those disks seems to put ABC into an infinite loop K > > scanning for backup candidates.  If I manually run ABC INCREMENTAL with G > > the /ALIAS=COPY qualifier, it works just fine.  The default doesn't H > > have the /ALIAS qualifier, and I've seen it churn for *days* without > > backing up a single file.  > > 6 > > ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR/READ/RECORD shows no problems. > > 5 > > Anybody have any ideas what else to look at here?  > >  > > " > ABC, huh.  Not familiar with it. >  > ABS/MDMS/SLS/BACKUP, yes.  > D > If you can't restore a bootable configured system disk, be afraid,+ > and ready for a complicated DR situation.   F I forgot to mention earlier that this isn't an issue here.  All system< disks come from a single BACKUP saveset, pre-configured withC everything.  (Machine-specific stuff is handled through our "build" G process, the details of which escape me at the moment.)  As long as any G additional stuff (e.g., any user files on there, for those poor systems > with a single drive) is backed up, it's recoverable even here.   > Two questions come to mind:  > < > What is the complete backup command used for full backups?   Not applicable.   F > Do the full backup logs for that disk indicate anything interesting?  B Further investigation showed that a BACKUP/IMAGE/LOG resulted in 7C files without names or directories; these files also produced ODS-5 G SYNTAX ERROR messages.  The files were accessible from RMS, so I copied G them & deleted the previous version, and now all is well.  Curious that D none of the suggested disk recovery options (ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR andD DFU VERIFY/FULL) didn't see any problem ... for that matter, neither did a DUMP of the header.   > Anyhow, ABC is working on that non-system disk now.  Thanks to everybody for the help.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:51:09 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <prenom.nom@freesurf.fr>  Subject: Re: Alpha emulator?4 Message-ID: <42a3e451$0$24396$626a14ce@news.free.fr>   Keith Cayemberg wrote:   big snip > 	 > Cheers!  >  > Keith Cayemberg   H Keith, if I come back from Nashua with a European Exec VMS VP job in my  pocket, I'll hire you.   'd like to live in Geneva?   :-)    D. PRSTSC::DTL on the BootCamp    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:45:58 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> Subject: Re: Alpha emulator?B Message-ID: <42a40d48$0$13486$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>   Didier Morandi wrote:  > Keith Cayemberg wrote: > 
 > big snip >  >>
 >> Cheers! >> >> Keith Cayemberg >  > J > Keith, if I come back from Nashua with a European Exec VMS VP job in my  > pocket, I'll hire you. >  > 'd like to live in Geneva? >  > :-)  >  > D. > PRSTSC::DTL on the BootCamp   
 Hi Didier,  7 If you get the job, maybe I'll take you up on that. :-)    Geneva would be great!  G Since the Great Fountain in Cheltenham (300ft/91.5m) has now surpassed  D (without pumps!) the Groe Fontne in Hanover (262.5ft/80m) for the A world's highest garden fountain, maybe it is time to move to the  . vicinity of the Jet d'Eau (459.3ft/140m)?  :-)  2 Great Fountain at the Stanway Estate in Cheltenham2 http://www.fountains.co.uk/index_files/Page677.htm  F Groe Fontne im Nouveau Jardin des Herrenhuser Groer Garten HanoverK http://www.hannover.de/deutsch/kultur/nah_park/herrenh/grosser/gro_font.htm G http://www.hannover.de/english/hgstart/dummys/koe_gart/grga_kog_cop.htm    Le Jet d'Eau de Genve; http://www.geneve-tourisme.ch/index.php?rubrique=0000000172 < http://www.geneve-tourisme.ch/images/ajouts/JetEauNuage3.jpg   Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 04:32:41 -0700 ! From: "Michael" <zspider@gte.net>  Subject: Re: Alpha emulator?C Message-ID: <1118057561.268864.161030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   ; Thanks, Keith, for all the links to Alpha emulators.  I cut 9 and pasted it into an email to those here at work who are 9 doing the work.  It doesn't look like there's too much of 4 a chance that we'll find a usable product.  VMS is a requirement.   Thanks again, Michael    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Jun 2005 23:25:28 -0700  From: icerq4a@spray.se, Subject: Re: Apple to switch to 8086, take 2C Message-ID: <1118039128.508107.100830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei wrote: A > If the stories of Apple moving to the 8086 are true, it will be H > interesting to see what sort of media opinions and corporate spin fromI > HP will follow later with regards to IA64's fortunes (or lack thereof).   E I think they will be silent, since this does not have much to do with  IA64.   J > Apple wouldn't be moving to the 8086 unless Intel gave it garantees thatI > the 8086 will be competing against powerPC and others in the full range J > of Apple products from laptop to large servers for at least 10 years. SoH > the 8086 gets at least 10 years worth of garantees where Apple will be= > able to compete against high end Power/Sparc based servers.   F I don't see why the Apple deal would in any way change Intels focus onB x86. Do you honestly think that Intel did not want to compete with PowerPC without this deal?  H > And since in 2007 (such a magical year for Intel), not only will AppleI > offer high end MACs based on the 8086, but the 8086 will also sport the E > same system interfaces as IA64 enabling 8086 to be used in the same B > large scale enterprise systems, IA64's last stand. The 8086 will* > eradicate any need for the IA64 in 2007.  9 I doubt Apple have any plans on making large SMP servers.   I > This coming week, during the VMS event would be a good time to announce H > that VMS engineers are already busy porting VMS to the 8086, expectingJ > commercial release in 2007 and first boot in November 2005. (unless they9 > already have a first boot done in the basement of ZKO).   E Those who go there should listen carefully and ask a lot of questions G to Geoff Lowney, an Intel Fellow and ex-Digital/Compaq Alpha developer. 7 He know things about the future of IA64 pretty well. ;)    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:41:04 +0300 4 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com>7 Subject: Re: booting alpha system from vax-only cluster & Message-ID: <42A41A30.15598273@hp.com>   Chaskiel Grundman wrote: > D > I am attempting to install openvms 7.3-1 on a Personal WorkstationI > 433au system. Unfortunately, the hd68 <-> centronincs scsi cable I have F > appears to be no good and there aren't any places around here that I > can just walk in and buy one.  > E > So, I decided to try booting the alpha from an existing vax cluster F > (actually running on SIMH, but that does not seem to be the problem) >  > What I've done so far: > G > 1) copied [VMS$COMMON] from the alpha installation media to a disk on 	 > the vax : > 2) copied cluster_authorize.dat to the alpha system disk > 3) created a minimal root I > 4) constructed ALPHAVMSSYS.PAR using an account I have on another alpha F > vms system (is there a way to make the vax sysman or sysgen write an > alpha-format parameter file?) ! > 5) configured lancp as follows:  > ALPHA (00-00-F8-75-A3-EB):" >   MOP DLL:  Load file:   APB.EXE+ >             Load root:   $1$DUB1:<SYS10.> * >             Boot type:   Alpha satellite > G > When I try to boot the alpha node, the following message is displayed + > in opcom and recorded in the lan$acp.log: % > LANACP MOP V4 Downline Load Service G > Could not respond to load request on XQA0 from ALPHA, error obtaining  > cluster pa
 > rameters< > Requested file:  $1$DUB1:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]APB.EXE > I > Does anyone know where lanacp is looking for the cluster parameters and H > how to provide them? a vax/simh satellite node boots successfully from > this system. > 	 > Thanks.  > H > P.S. I'm aware that this is unsupported, and that this will likely not: > be the last problem I encounter. I'd like to try anyway.  A Can you get hold of an extra 1G (or larger) SCSI disk? Install it H temporarily on a VAX and BACKUP/IMAGE the installation CD, then transfer it to the Alpha and boot.   # Should work, but I havent tried it.    Mike --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:31:40 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)7 Subject: Re: booting alpha system from vax-only clustera% Message-ID: <d8219s$vdf$10@online.de>   4 In article <42A41A30.15598273@hp.com>, Mike Rechtman) <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com> writes: h  F > > I am attempting to install openvms 7.3-1 on a Personal WorkstationK > > 433au system. Unfortunately, the hd68 <-> centronincs scsi cable I havecH > > appears to be no good and there aren't any places around here that I! > > can just walk in and buy one.l > > G > > So, I decided to try booting the alpha from an existing vax cluster H > > (actually running on SIMH, but that does not seem to be the problem) > >  > > What I've done so far: > > I > > 1) copied [VMS$COMMON] from the alpha installation media to a disk ons > > the vaxx< > > 2) copied cluster_authorize.dat to the alpha system disk > > 3) created a minimal rootnK > > 4) constructed ALPHAVMSSYS.PAR using an account I have on another alphaeH > > vms system (is there a way to make the vax sysman or sysgen write an! > > alpha-format parameter file?)n# > > 5) configured lancp as follows:  > > ALPHA (00-00-F8-75-A3-EB):$ > >   MOP DLL:  Load file:   APB.EXE- > >             Load root:   $1$DUB1:<SYS10.>a, > >             Boot type:   Alpha satellite > > I > > When I try to boot the alpha node, the following message is displayedt- > > in opcom and recorded in the lan$acp.log:n' > > LANACP MOP V4 Downline Load ServiceOI > > Could not respond to load request on XQA0 from ALPHA, error obtainingt > > cluster pa > > rameters> > > Requested file:  $1$DUB1:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]APB.EXE > > K > > Does anyone know where lanacp is looking for the cluster parameters and J > > how to provide them? a vax/simh satellite node boots successfully from > > this system. > >  > > Thanks.  > > J > > P.S. I'm aware that this is unsupported, and that this will likely not< > > be the last problem I encounter. I'd like to try anyway. > C > Can you get hold of an extra 1G (or larger) SCSI disk? Install it:J > temporarily on a VAX and BACKUP/IMAGE the installation CD, then transfer > it to the Alpha and boot.  > % > Should work, but I havent tried it.o  G This will definitely work.  However, I don't think you can install VMS 5I on the same disk you boot from.  So you need a CD drive on the ALPHA, or  E TWO SCSI disks, one for the installation (copy of the CD) and one to a install VMS on.g  5 I would also recommend 4 GB for an ALPHA system disk.o  I I believe it IS supported to boot an ALPHA as a satellite from a VAX, or iB vice-versa.  I don't know if an installation is supported, though.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:35:22 -0400& From: "John Pezzano" <jpezz@myway.com>B Subject: Re: Canadian fighter jets sent to intercept British plane8 Message-ID: <cef14$42a48955$498f3db$14964@DIALUPUSA.NET>  M Nitwit! Put your brain in gear before putting finger in motion. Axis of evil h% nothing. Hijack signal was the cause..   JohnPn  3 "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message  2 news:1694eef9f5b1ec533c8c0f8d90d19173@dizum.com...0 > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4607657.stm >tC > "North American Aerospace Defense Command Lt Cmdr Sean Kelly said*G > Canadian fighter jets escorted the plane to Halifax, where it landed r > safely > at 1539 BST. >nI > Canadian military officials confirmed that two CF-18s from Bagotville, t	 > Quebec,h% > were sent to intercept the flight."r >oC > Ooh, Quebec ... let's see how Mezei defends his country, and his   > *province* no less,a> > getting involved in "the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld axis of evil". >a > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=bush&num=100&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=jf+mezei&lr=&as_qdr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&safe=off >e > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=usa&num=100&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=jf+mezei&lr=&as_qdr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&safe=offi >e > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=bush&num=100&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=nobody&lr=&as_qdr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&safe=off >e > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=bush&num=100&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=nobody&lr=&as_qdr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&safe=off >: > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=sci.space.*&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=john+doe&lr=&as_qdr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&safe=off    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:12:29 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>w) Subject: Couldda been, shoulda been Alpha;, Message-ID: <3Z6dnXN-_d3J7TnfRVn-tw@igs.net>  E http://www.matbe.com/actualites/10266/Computex-A64X2-dans-un-portablei     --L OpenVMS - The never-advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:33:52 +10006 From: "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au># Subject: Re: DCL BAtch Job problem. X Message-ID: <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05BE40@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.local>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C56A7A.D9B8E6CAB. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableg  L In article <42A3AD56.CAB6716C@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teks= avvy.com> writes:  > Mister Q wrote:lB >> Of course, if we need to change backup.com, it becomes ;16, our< >> autopurge removes ;15 and the batch job fails with a FNF. >=20+ > When you modify such a procedure you can:o >=20 > edit backup.com;15 > save it, it creates ;16B >=20% > then COPY/OVERLAY BACKUP.COM;16 ;15e > then DELETE BACKUP.COM;16  >=20L Great!!!!  Without testing, I had assumed that /overlay would change the FI=3 D :-(  Perhaps help or the FAQ should mention this.h   Regards, Paddy    G ************************************************************************  C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged @ and confidential information intended only for the use of the=20D addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of=20C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advisepD the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,=207 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.a  C If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid=20lC immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the=20p? individual sender except where the sender expressly and with=20nC authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  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TransGrid uses<BR>fB virus-scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses<BR>  contained in any attachment.<BR> <BR>@ Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now<BR>( firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au"<BR> <BR>K ***********************************************************************<BR>  </FONT>e </BODY>d </HTML> ) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C56A7A.D9B8E6CA--*   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 08:29:40 -0700t' From: "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com>f Subject: EIA0:?iC Message-ID: <1118071780.303706.288220@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>o  & On one of our DS10s there is something- called EIA0 available to be configured at thea console.  & It looks like an ethernet card, but we% already have EWA0 AND EWB0.  So, whati is EIA0?   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 08:42:14 -0700t* From: "MDPlatts" <martin.platts@cdl.co.uk> Subject: Re: EIA0:? B Message-ID: <1118072534.619403.43320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  F usually one of the intel based (non-tulip) i825xx (?) cards - examplesE being the DE600 and the DE602 - do you think you have another card inu6 there or are you just working remotely on the console?  F Check the "show config" output and look for the above mentioned cards.D The DS10 has the EWA0/EWB0 (i.e. tulip) cards on the mobo - the DS15 has the EIA0/EIB0 equivalents*   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 09:17:00 -0700y' From: "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com>t Subject: Re: EIA0:?:C Message-ID: <1118074620.049244.198710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>"   MDPlatts wrote: H > usually one of the intel based (non-tulip) i825xx (?) cards - examplesG > being the DE600 and the DE602 - do you think you have another card in68 > there or are you just working remotely on the console?  B We did not order an extra card and there is no external connection that I can find.   I have access to the computer.   ><H > Check the "show config" output and look for the above mentioned cards.F > The DS10 has the EWA0/EWB0 (i.e. tulip) cards on the mobo - the DS15 > has the EIA0/EIB0 equivalents;  4 show config scrolls off the screen too fast to read.  , show device (from vms) shows it as a 182559.  ( Could it be for USB?  We have USB ports.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 06:39:51 -0700 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>H Subject: Re: HP to help governments with tracking users with NAtional IDB Message-ID: <1118065191.151715.65070@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Bill Todd wrote: > AEF wrote: > >e > > Bill Todd wrote: > >r > >>AEF wrote: > >> > >>...  > >> > >>K > >>>>Blaming someone for the actions of a nut-case who's stalking him is aBL > >>>>new low in my book.  But I guess knuckle-draggers who see little wrong > >>>- > >>>e > >>>aL > >>>Uh, you're reading a little more (actually, quite a lot more) into what* > >>>I said. I never held Nomen blameless. > >>< > >>No, you're just reading at your usual third-grade level. > >n > >s > >aJ > > Well, you keep writing at third-grade level -- what do you expect? :-) >tC > Sounds rather like, "Nyah, nyah - I know you are, but what am I?"r >oJ > Guess that places you at more like kindergarten level.  Are you actually
 > employable?a    G Obviously you don't have a sense of humor. IT WAS A JOKE! I even put ini: the big clue: a smiley. But you missed it! (Another joke!)     >RL > >>I said nothing about holding Nomen blameless:  my comment was limited to* > >>extending blame for his actions to JF. > >i > >  > > ? > > No, your comment included extreme and unjustified rudeness.  > G > Seems like you can't hold a concept in your head from one sentence todI > another, either.  Whether my response was rude (justifiably or not) hasBH > absolutely nothing to do with your blatant inability to understand its: > content and your subsequent mischaracterization thereof.    E Bill, I've noticed a high degree of correlation between when you make*G invalid points and your cursing insults. When you make good posts, they_E tend to be insult free. But posts that you make where your points are,B invalid tend to be full of insults. And there are even mixed postsG where one paragragph is right on but the next is invalid and is full ofn insults.  F You assume stuff from posts that isn't there. And when you ASSUME, you( make an ASS out of U and ME, mostly you.   >O >   I am notG > > blaming JF for Nomen's actions anymore than I would blame a muggingeK > > victim who just before the mugging was on line at a subway booth loudlys, > > saying "Sorry, I only have large bills." >>H > So you're the kind of guy who thinks that women who wear anything moreG > attractive than sackcloth and ashes are just asking to be raped, too. ) > Can't say that I'm very much surprised.a    F Nope. There is a large range of simliar instances with many variationsF which involves subtleties that I am nor prepared to explain to you. (I don't have the time.)s   >e > ...  > > >   My point is that given that there is lightning, it's not aK > > good idea to run into the water during a thunderstorm. Given that therexG > > are burglars, it's not a good idea to go on vacation and leave your B > > house unlocked. Ka-peesh? Is this a difficult concept for you? >u' > No, but it appears to be one for you.e    G Your opinion. And who the hell are you anyway? Why should anyone listens to you?      > J > Because actions such as those are purely at the discretion of the personD > performing them.  And if that person later complains about adverseH > consequences, *then* observing that he might have considered acting soC > as to minimize the probability of their occurrence is reasonable.h >rJ > But that's not what you were doing with JF:  he wasn't complaining aboutG > Nomen's actions, *you* were - and assigning him blame for the actions- > you were complaining about.  >9I > But that's probably far too detailed a chain of logic for you to followi# > even if you were inclined to try./    F I was pointing out that he might be attracting the attention of Nomen.G Frankly, given a choice between a Nomen-free cov and a cov with threadsaC like this, I'll choose the former. Not to say that JF's stopping ofeG starting off-topic threads will guarantee elimination of Nomen, but why  throw gasoline on the fire?T   >u > ...h >h > > What is your problem?i >iB > I thought I'd made it clear quite a while ago:  I don't tolerate > aggressive morons.    C > Considerate morons aren't my favorite companions, but I find themiJ > relatively innocuous.  Aggressive but intelligent contributors may grateI > at times, but they're well worth putting up with for the value of theirv > actual content.  >jH > But people like you don't offer anything in the way of useful content,G > don't understand where the boundaries of your competence lie (perhapseH > because they're just tucked up too tightly under your nose to focus onH > easily), and don't let that slow them down in the slightest in passing" > incompetent judgments on others.    E Wrong, though I am flattered that you think I actually have this muchd influence in cov! Thanks!t      C Bill Todd, hero of cov, saves the group from AEF! Also, Bill and JFnC save the world from tyranny by exposing govt abuses in cov! Hurray!2   >rF > Unfortunately, they also tend to be very thick-skinned.  So I use an* > appropriate load to try to penetrate it. >h > - bill  A Say what you want, Bill. Make up stuff. Actually, it's all pretty. funny.   Still, b          *plonk*!    :-)l   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:41:01 -0500l+ From: Chuck Aaron <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu>o- Subject: HTDIG with OSU Webserver and OpenVMS / Message-ID: <42A46E8D.9020004@ceris.purdue.edu>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------0806060305090102070202039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=floweds Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I If anyone is running HTDIG with the OSU Webserver and Openvms, could you < email me. I have somem" config questions on HTDIG and OSU.   Thanks,r Chuckt  & --------------080606030509010207020203) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-asciim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit(  ? <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">e <html> <head>I   <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">    <title></title>t </head> ' <body bgcolor="#339999" text="#ffffff">yD If anyone is running HTDIG with the OSU Webserver and Openvms, could you email me. I have some<br>e& config questions on HTDIG and OSU.<br> <br> Thanks,<br> 	 Chuck<br>- </body>- </html>-  ( --------------080606030509010207020203--   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 01:07:24 -0700O From: moon_dust_lady@yahoo.com) Subject: Re: Leo DiCaprio is Circumcised?>C Message-ID: <1118045244.540210.116840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   D No sorry I should have said who the referent was.  John Leguizamo isD married, not Dicaprio.  It was in an interview with Leguizamo who isE Cuban and intact where he said that circumcised guys looked mutilated B to him and that is when Leguizamo said Dicaprio told him he wasn'tF circumcised.  Leguizamo then mentioned that he and his Jewish wife hadF agreed not to circumcise their son.  Hope I have explained it all this time.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:31:21 -0700 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>> Subject: Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Behavior explained/ Message-ID: <BEC99029.F215%roktsci@comcast.net>n   On 6/6/05 3:33 AM, in articlenB d818p4$l19$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com, "Richard Maher"$ <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:   > Hi Robert, >  >> But changing it now would# >> undoubtedly break existing code.- > G > Firstly, I can agree with you and am happy to go through life knowinggH > "that's just the way it is", but does anyone else see the irony in theJ > different responses I'm getting depending on whether I ask for change or* > alternatively, a change has effected me? > L > If a change has broken my code then it's "Your crap code was always brokenJ > and you should thank us for pointing out the error of your ways!" but ifJ > it's an obvious bug that should be fixed then I'm greeted with "Well, we! > don't want to upset anyone" :-)  > K > Anyway it's just a niggle that I'll get over in th fullness of time. Hey,e( > I'm going out to lunch. (I'm over it!) >  >> Suggestions for improvement?t > 2 > How 'bout the define still works but you get : - > I > %SYSTEM-W-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection violation  >  > Cheers Richard > D > "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspringdot.com> wrote in messageH > news:rdeininger-0606050607000001@user-uinj4dg.dialup.mindspring.com...K >> In article <d80scs$j65$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richardk. >> Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:F This behavior is normal and explained in the System Services ReferenceG manual in the section describing the access mode for the system servicecL $CRELNM. It comes from maximizing the process' access mode then defining theI logical name. If you specify /supervisor and the system cannot raise youroJ process to that level, you get whatever level you are allowed to go up to.  D http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/4527/4527pro_001.html#jun_135  B "The access mode associated with the logical name is determined byJ maximizing the access mode of the caller with the access mode specified byG the acmode argument, which means that the less privileged of the two ishI used. Symbols for the four access modes are defined by the $PSLDEF macro.i  B You cannot specify an access mode more privileged than that of theG containing table. However, if the caller has SYSNAM privilege, then theiK specified access mode is associated with the logical name regardless of the2 access mode of the caller."g   Jeff >> L >>> Hi,d >>> @ >>> If you have SYSPRV enabled but *not* SYSNAM and you do a : - >>>   >>> $define/sys/exec t3$blah foo >>> ; >>> you get *no* warning or error message. But when you : -. >>> 2 >>> $ sh log t3$tip_unresolved_search_detent /fullJ >>>   "T3$TIP_UNRESOLVED_SEARCH_DETENT" [super] = "300" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) >>> L >>> you discover that is has gone onto the System Table in *supervisor* mode > :-(n >>> K >>> I can't tell you how many times this has bitten me in the arse, and yes  > I'm L >>> off to change my default privs, but surely this can't be right let alone > VMSl> >>> can it? Don't do what you ask but don't tell you about it? >> aM >> It was probably the wrong choice way back when.  But changing it now wouldsI >> undoubtedly break existing code.  I would call this behavior "bad, butn >> predictable". >> m >> Suggestions for improvement?e >  >    ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:01:49 +0000 (UTC)3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com>e4 Subject: Logical Names and Privileges - Minor Whinge? Message-ID: <d80scs$j65$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>r   Hi,h  < If you have SYSPRV enabled but *not* SYSNAM and you do a : -   $define/sys/exec t3$blah foo  7 you get *no* warning or error message. But when you : --  . $ sh log t3$tip_unresolved_search_detent /fullG    "T3$TIP_UNRESOLVED_SEARCH_DETENT" [super] = "300" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)6  L you discover that is has gone onto the System Table in *supervisor* mode :-(  K I can't tell you how many times this has bitten me in the arse, and yes I'mmL off to change my default privs, but surely this can't be right let alone VMS: can it? Don't do what you ask but don't tell you about it?   Regards Richard Maher    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:06:59 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) 8 Subject: Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Minor WhingeL Message-ID: <rdeininger-0606050607000001@user-uinj4dg.dialup.mindspring.com>  H In article <d80scs$j65$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard+ Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:0   >Hi, >e= >If you have SYSPRV enabled but *not* SYSNAM and you do a : -  >0 >$define/sys/exec t3$blah foo. >>8 >you get *no* warning or error message. But when you : - > / >$ sh log t3$tip_unresolved_search_detent /fulluH >   "T3$TIP_UNRESOLVED_SEARCH_DETENT" [super] = "300" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) >sM >you discover that is has gone onto the System Table in *supervisor* mode :-(s >sL >I can't tell you how many times this has bitten me in the arse, and yes I'mM >off to change my default privs, but surely this can't be right let alone VMSt; >can it? Don't do what you ask but don't tell you about it?a  J It was probably the wrong choice way back when.  But changing it now wouldF undoubtedly break existing code.  I would call this behavior "bad, but
 predictable".e   Suggestions for improvement?   ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:33:09 +0000 (UTC)3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com>s8 Subject: Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Minor Whinge? Message-ID: <d818p4$l19$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>h  
 Hi Robert,   > But changing it now wouldC" > undoubtedly break existing code.  E Firstly, I can agree with you and am happy to go through life knowingsF "that's just the way it is", but does anyone else see the irony in theH different responses I'm getting depending on whether I ask for change or( alternatively, a change has effected me?  J If a change has broken my code then it's "Your crap code was always brokenH and you should thank us for pointing out the error of your ways!" but ifH it's an obvious bug that should be fixed then I'm greeted with "Well, we don't want to upset anyone" :-)A  I Anyway it's just a niggle that I'll get over in th fullness of time. Hey,o& I'm going out to lunch. (I'm over it!)   > Suggestions for improvement?  0 How 'bout the define still works but you get : -  G %SYSTEM-W-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection violationi   Cheers Richard  B "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspringdot.com> wrote in messageF news:rdeininger-0606050607000001@user-uinj4dg.dialup.mindspring.com...J > In article <d80scs$j65$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard- > Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:1 >  > >Hi, > > ? > >If you have SYSPRV enabled but *not* SYSNAM and you do a : -a > >  > >$define/sys/exec t3$blah fooa > >n: > >you get *no* warning or error message. But when you : - > > 1 > >$ sh log t3$tip_unresolved_search_detent /fullrJ > >   "T3$TIP_UNRESOLVED_SEARCH_DETENT" [super] = "300" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > >kK > >you discover that is has gone onto the System Table in *supervisor* mode- :-(- > >-J > >I can't tell you how many times this has bitten me in the arse, and yes I'mcK > >off to change my default privs, but surely this can't be right let alone8 VMSe= > >can it? Don't do what you ask but don't tell you about it?e > L > It was probably the wrong choice way back when.  But changing it now wouldH > undoubtedly break existing code.  I would call this behavior "bad, but > predictable".t >' > Suggestions for improvement?   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:52:44 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.com8 Subject: Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Minor WhingeQ Message-ID: <OF0122C0B7.068F3780-ON85257018.00469772-85257018.0046BAF7@metso.com>   J "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote on 06/06/2005 06:33:09 AM:s   > Hi Robert, >m > > But changing it now would $ > > undoubtedly break existing code. >)G > Firstly, I can agree with you and am happy to go through life knowingfH > "that's just the way it is", but does anyone else see the irony in theJ > different responses I'm getting depending on whether I ask for change or* > alternatively, a change has effected me? >/E > If a change has broken my code then it's "Your crap code was alwayse brokenJ > and you should thank us for pointing out the error of your ways!" but ifJ > it's an obvious bug that should be fixed then I'm greeted with "Well, we! > don't want to upset anyone" :-)- >-K > Anyway it's just a niggle that I'll get over in th fullness of time. Hey,n( > I'm going out to lunch. (I'm over it!) >D  > > Suggestions for improvement? >w2 > How 'bout the define still works but you get : - >sI > %SYSTEM-W-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection violationw  A Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but, to retain backwardso@ compatibility, you cannot create a -W- warning, but would need aF -I- informational, or ON WARNING and its friends would suddenly change	 behavior.5   >5 > Cheers Richard >rD > "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspringdot.com> wrote in messageH > news:rdeininger-0606050607000001@user-uinj4dg.dialup.mindspring.com...C > > In article <d80scs$j65$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,b "Richard/ > > Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:r > >e > > >Hi, > > >wA > > >If you have SYSPRV enabled but *not* SYSNAM and you do a : -  > > >h! > > >$define/sys/exec t3$blah foo  > > >t< > > >you get *no* warning or error message. But when you : - > > >03 > > >$ sh log t3$tip_unresolved_search_detent /fulll9 > > >   "T3$TIP_UNRESOLVED_SEARCH_DETENT" [super] = "300"  (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > > >lH > > >you discover that is has gone onto the System Table in *supervisor* mode > :-(t > > >rH > > >I can't tell you how many times this has bitten me in the arse, and yesd > I'msG > > >off to change my default privs, but surely this can't be right let  alone. > VMS ? > > >can it? Don't do what you ask but don't tell you about it?i > > H > > It was probably the wrong choice way back when.  But changing it now wouldAJ > > undoubtedly break existing code.  I would call this behavior "bad, but > > predictable".  > >f  > > Suggestions for improvement? >  >t   ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:36:21 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)8 Subject: Re: Logical Names and Privileges - Minor Whinge% Message-ID: <d821il$vdf$11@online.de>   H In article <d80scs$j65$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard- Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes: N  > > If you have SYSPRV enabled but *not* SYSNAM and you do a : - >  > $define/sys/exec t3$blah foo > 9 > you get *no* warning or error message. But when you : -G > 0 > $ sh log t3$tip_unresolved_search_detent /fullI >    "T3$TIP_UNRESOLVED_SEARCH_DETENT" [super] = "300" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)  > N > you discover that is has gone onto the System Table in *supervisor* mode :-( > M > I can't tell you how many times this has bitten me in the arse, and yes I'mvN > off to change my default privs, but surely this can't be right let alone VMS< > can it? Don't do what you ask but don't tell you about it?   It IS documented, though.t   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 06:30:07 -0700e' From: "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com>a Subject: Re: OPC on VMS C Message-ID: <1118064607.493867.232940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>e   Main, Kerry wrote: > > -----Original Message-----0 > > From: tadamsmar [mailto:tadamsmar@yahoo.com] > > Sent: June 5, 2005 8:07 AM > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com] > > Subject: Re: OPC on VMSm > >t" > > Have you checked out BaseStar? > >sB > > It's an HP product for VMS but I don't know much about it yet. > > - > > I did see some PC-in-the-middle products.n > >a > > Jean Mertens wrote:m	 > > > HI,s > > >aA > > > I've the same need and have not been able to locate any OPCm > > client for VMS.nA > > > One additional need I've is to have the OPC client to reactL > > on un-sollicited' > > > input ( Asynchronous system trap)YE > > > to capture event from external devices (PLC or DCS) OPC server. ? > > > The only solution I've been given has a PC in between thec > > VMS and the server > > > that acts as the cliento> > > > and have the PC hooked via LAT/serial to the Vax/Alpha - > > Unacceptable for7 > > > process control knowin the "stability" of windows$ > > >YD > > > "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> a =E9crit dans le message deC > > > news:1117831159.487579.217700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...xC > > > > I may need to integerate OPC into a legacy VMS application.h > > > > > > > > > I need to get data from an OPC system.  read and write > > data points. > > > >rI > > > > 1. Are there any inexpensive OPC clients for VMS?  Any experience1J > > > > with clients?  I find some list of available clients with I search5 > > > > this group, but I don't know much about them.  > > > > E > > > > 2. Is it realistic to roll my own limited-function interface?- > > > >- > >- >- >- > Re: OPC client for OpenVMS ..  >c > This might be of interest: >n  > http://www.infosat.fr/infosat/ >t$ > And the OpenVMS Wizard's response:0 > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_3244.html   The Wizard says:  @ "Sample OPC clients and servers (source code) are also available   on the web."  7 Where on the web, I wonder.  Is the Wiz talking about a-2 roll your own approach with web-available sources?   >:	 > RegardsS >- > Kerry Main > Senior ConsultantK > HP Services Canada > Voice: 613-592-4660- > Fax: 613-591-4477@ > kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom > (remove the DOT's and AT)- >=206 > OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:54:49 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>r Subject: RE: OPC on VMSsR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB5ED92C@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----< > From: Keith Cayemberg [mailto:keith.cayemberg@arcor.de]=20 > Sent: June 5, 2005 11:20 AM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coml > Subject: Re: OPC on VMS  >=20  	 [snip ..]    >=20: > You may also want to consider the list of OPC OpenVMS=20 > solutions in the=20  > COV posting at...  >=20F > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/msg/be23d854653cd1f5 >=20< > If you don't find the software specific to your problem=20 > there, I would=20v? > suggest contacting the listed firms directly. and ask them=20n > for what they=20> > may have as a solution for OpenVMS that fits. You are not=20 > likely to be=20i@ > the first to have these questions for them. If you learn of=20 > anything new=20n> >   relevant to the VMS community, then please report it in=20 > this thread if=20s > at all possible. >=20	 > Cheers!m >=20 > Keith Cayembergi >=20  E Keith - as usual, great link. I have added this one to my "goodstuff"f links ..   :-)   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant1 HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660A Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:21:50 -0500p+ From: Chuck Aaron <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu>  Subject: OSU - VMS - HTDIG5 Message-ID: <d81pmg$u84$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu>C  B Can anyone tell me if you are using htdig with OSU  or apache web  servers running openvms? If * so, I have some config questions on htdig.   thanks,e chucks   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 00:59:23 -0700.* From: "MDPlatts" <martin.platts@cdl.co.uk>2 Subject: Possible to stop/disable FTP "cd" commandC Message-ID: <1118044763.360708.155070@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>1  G I need to give some people FTP access to a system - but don't want themGF using the "CD" to look at other interesting areas - any suggestions on< how to prevent this - file protection isnt an option withoutE application changes - which are not going to happen (i.e. interactiveyG access needs access to everywhere - and ftp access needs only one area) D - I'm looking into the use of the NETWORK identifier as a possible -G but it still would need several hundred thousand ACE's creating just to 6 permit access to a directory of several tens of files?  E Are there any logicals to prevent such (or prevent non-local access -gE i.e. get file from other remote directory than default) - I can't see- any documented?   @ I'd have thought this would be something implemented with all of" OpenVMS's security considerations?   M.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 00:58:43 -0700i* From: "MDPlatts" <martin.platts@cdl.co.uk>) Subject: Possible to top FTP "cd" commandcA Message-ID: <1118044723.662392.6530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>a  G I need to give some people FTP access to a system - but don't want them.F using the "CD" to look at other interesting areas - any suggestions on< how to prevent this - file protection isnt an option withoutE application changes - which are not going to happen (i.e. interactive G access needs access to everywhere - and ftp access needs only one area)lD - I'm looking into the use of the NETWORK identifier as a possible -G but it still would need several hundred thousand ACE's creating just to*6 permit access to a directory of several tens of files?  E Are there any logicals to prevent such (or prevent non-local access -nE i.e. get file from other remote directory than default) - I can't see_ any documented?&  @ I'd have thought this would be something implemented with all of" OpenVMS's security considerations?   M.   ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:43:05 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)- Subject: Re: Possible to top FTP "cd" command&% Message-ID: <d821v9$vdf$12@online.de>o  A In article <1118044723.662392.6530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,a- "MDPlatts" <martin.platts@cdl.co.uk> writes: c  I > I need to give some people FTP access to a system - but don't want themaH > using the "CD" to look at other interesting areas - any suggestions on> > how to prevent this - file protection isnt an option withoutG > application changes - which are not going to happen (i.e. interactive&I > access needs access to everywhere - and ftp access needs only one area)0F > - I'm looking into the use of the NETWORK identifier as a possible -I > but it still would need several hundred thousand ACE's creating just tou8 > permit access to a directory of several tens of files? > G > Are there any logicals to prevent such (or prevent non-local access --G > i.e. get file from other remote directory than default) - I can't see< > any documented?u > B > I'd have thought this would be something implemented with all of$ > OpenVMS's security considerations?  B If they are using anonymous FTP, they can't get out of the "root" @ directory, unless perhaps other directories are readable by the G anonymous user.  If they are using their own accounts, then they can't 0I do more via FTP than interactively.  If these are new accounts, put them B@ in a different group than the interactive users.  Of course, if A everything is world readable already, why are you worrying about m
 security now?f   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:51:32 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>r3 Subject: Security Company - New OpenVMS TestimonialCR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB5ED93D@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   All,  @ The readers of this list might be interested in this new OpenVMS testimonial:  7 http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/5983-2346EN.pdf     F "Vienna-based PKE Electronics AG believes that in order for a securityH system to be reliable, it has to be stable secure at the core - which isD why PKE builds its solutions exclusively on the HP OpenVMS operating system."  A "Kuhn explains why PKE builds all of its solutions exclusively oneG OpenVMS. "The hallmarks of our SMS solutions are that they are reliable*H and stable. When we looked for a computer platform on which to build ourG applications, we chose OpenVMS because of its security, reliability andnF stability. Now OpenVMS offers even more value to our customers because= of its availability on standards-based HP Integrity servers."n   Regardsh  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultantu HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660i Fax: 613-591-4477u kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 09:50:19 -0700  From: bob@instantwhip.come7 Subject: Re: Security Company - New OpenVMS TestimonialtB Message-ID: <1118076619.413161.45960@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  0 you better tell intel to continue to offer small+ 1p servers i.e. DS10/DS10L so we and othersn- can offer solutions to small and medium sizeds- businesses ... not everyone running vms needs* and can afford a superdome!*   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 06:26:22 -07001' From: "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com>;0 Subject: Settings for 10/100 half/full ethernet?C Message-ID: <1118064382.935440.219870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>"  4 Are there any DS10 console setting that allow you to define 10 or 100 half or full?  4 We need to configure a DS10 or the switch port it is4 connected to to better tune the interactions.  There6 are delays that may be due to a poor match between the' DS10 card and the switch configuration.O   Any recommendations?   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jun 2005 15:50:48 +0200t. From: huber@NOBODY-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)4 Subject: Re: Settings for 10/100 half/full ethernet?+ Message-ID: <+6RO5to5JWU2@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>t  m In article <1118064382.935440.219870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> writes:a6 > Are there any DS10 console setting that allow you to  > define 10 or 100 half or full? > 6 > We need to configure a DS10 or the switch port it is6 > connected to to better tune the interactions.  There8 > are delays that may be due to a poor match between the) > DS10 card and the switch configuration.l >  > Any recommendations?  E I don't have a DS10, but generally, the operation mode of an ethernet*@ interface (here: ewa0) can be set by the SRM variable ewa0_mode:5  set ewa0_mode Twisted-Pair     -> 10 Mb, half duplexmA  set ewa0_mode Full Duplex,Twisted-Pair     -> 10 Mb, full duplexn6  set ewa0_mode Fast             -> 100 Mb, half duplex3  set ewa0_mode FastfD        -> 100 Mb, full duplexl/  set ewa0_mode Auto            auto negotiationd  O If I have one of the mode keywords wrong: SRM will tell You the correct syntax.>  i  i -- n6    Joseph Huber, Muenchen  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:08:53 +0200( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>4 Subject: Re: Settings for 10/100 half/full ethernet?3 Message-ID: <000301c56aa1$459fd9f0$994614ac@wat153>t   Hello,  F our experience is, that you should set both sides (switch and DS10) toC FastFD. On the DS10 console mode you must set the netdevice_MODE tom FastFD (e.g. SET EWA0_MODE FastFD   Best regards R. Wingert5   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:36:22 +10006 From: "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au>$ Subject: Re: [OT] When I'm sixty-oneX Message-ID: <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05BE3D@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.local>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C56A73.5A5BEA2De. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printabler   Didier Morandi wrote:A >=20 > 06-JUN-1944 06-JUN-2005h  L I thought that was 1945 (the year of my birth) -- did anything happen on th= at date in 1944?  2 I suspect you meant 1945, as being sixty years :-)   Regards, Paddy    G ***********************************************************************g  C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged @ and confidential information intended only for the use of the=20D addressees named above.  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