1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 17 Jun 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 335       Contents:3 Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarm  Re: SIR (was: Backup question)  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:38:03 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> < Subject: Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarm, Message-ID: <42B20D53.76ECE751@teksavvy.com>   bob@instantwhip.com wrote: > 2 > anybody who thinks that leaving Hussein in power1 > would be a good thing doesn't have a clue about  > anything ...  G Anyone who think you can just walk into a fragile country with your big H bombs and instantly create a heaven is plain stupid and will be broke by: the time he's finished paying for the damages he's caused.  G Post 1995, fewer people per year were killed by Hussein than are killed ' by americans and resistance since 2003.   B And during hussein days, people didn't have to fear walking in theD streets if they were law abiding because hussein was bagging the bad= guys/dissenters. Now, it is the innocent people being killed.   H Hussein was no saint. He deserved his day at the war crimes tribunal. AtB the time he used the chemical weapons, they were not yet banned byE treaty. But he did use them against a focused ethic group (Kurds) and E that can be considered genocide. In the 1990s however, the Kurds were H given much self governance and their own militia and this worked well in that region.  F With the rest of the world breathing down his throath, Hussein was, in? the 1990s, fairly docile, especially compared to the atrocities E committed by americans. Rumsfeld was bragging about how the US troups H had rounded up "tens of thousands of people" (direct quote) and put themF in jail without charge. The USA is in no position to criticise HusseinA anymore because it has done imilar things. It has invaded another O country illegally, and has tortured mistreated and suspended due legal process.   F Americans should be far more affraid of Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney/WolfowitzF having full access to the full arsenal of weapons of mass destructionsG as well as land mines including chemical and biological weapons. Nobody F in the USA ever questioned whether it was their own government sending@ Anthrax to mostly "liberal/democrat" targets shortly after 9-11.B It was shown that the anthrax was of USA origin. And it is the USAD government who has stockpiles of anthrax. Questions shoudl have beenB asked and heads should have rolled for whoever was responsible for@ allowing those spores out of the labs where they are being kept.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:02:39 -0400 * From: "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca>' Subject: Re: SIR (was: Backup question) 3 Message-ID: <V1kse.2419$g4.32804@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>   G "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> a crit dans le 8 message de news:zKJps92RckBu@eisner.encompasserve.org...J > In article <1118929848.272957.66370@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "AEF"  <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> writes: > > E > > One "silly" counterexample would be a file copied to the disk via G > > BACKUP/RECORD giving a backup date that is later than the mod date. G > > Such a file will not get picked up by either pass. Since this foils H > > even the single-pass method (when /SINCE=BACKUP is used), it doesn'tJ > > really count as a bona fide counterexample. But I worry there might be > > something else.  > F >    There is always the problem of users doing backup/record when youJ >    are relying on /since=record.  I've never had to educate my users not< >    to do this, so I think in real life it's not a problem. > B >    Maybe in VMS 8.4 or so we can get an option to make /record aJ >    privileged action.  It would have to be off for upward compatability,E >    but I'd argue that the default state should be on.  I think OPER + >    and/or SYSPRV should be the privilege.    7.3 HELP says:D      o  To use the /RECORD qualifier you must either own the file or         have SYSPRV privileges.   & This is taken care of already (almost)  I Possibly it should be even more privileged, so that a "normal" user could ; not use /RECORD even on its own files, but that`s arguable. G I can`t think of a reason for a normal user to use /RECORD. It's more a ! sysadmin qualifier than a user's.    --   Syltrem    OpenVMS 7.3-1 + Oracle 8.1.7.4H http://pages.infinit.net/syltrem (OpenVMS related web site, en franais)% ---zulu is not in my email address---  >    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.335 ************************