1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 20 Jun 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 342       Contents:- Re: Avoiding domain mismatch (TCPIP Services) ! Re: CONTEST: best Handheld for... ! Re: CONTEST: best Handheld for... - Hackers and Microsoft Engineers, very amusing 1 Re: Hackers and Microsoft Engineers, very amusing 3 Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarm 3 Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarm 3 Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarm 3 Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarm  OT: vms keyboard Please do not feed the troll  Re: SURVEY: Best Handheld for... UCX connect function timeout Re: unix script on VMS to DOS   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:04:40 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 6 Subject: Re: Avoiding domain mismatch (TCPIP Services), Message-ID: <42B5EBF7.891ECB71@teksavvy.com>   Alder wrote: >  > Wow.  I think you did it, JF!  > F > BIND seems to run OK now, though I cannot simply ping an unqualifiedF > hostname on my network; I have to fully qualify it with my arbitraryH > domain.  The same domain issue  (Local domain: ** Mismatch **) remainsC > in SHOW NAME_SERVICE, but here's something that might suggest the 	 > reason:   F You need to set the default domain in the bind RESOLVER. (eg: local to! that node, not the bind server).     TCPIP> HELP SET NAME /DOMAIN    < You'll need to do A SET NAME_SERVICE/DOMAIN=erebus.ca/SYSTEM and 2 				SET CONF NAME_SERVICE /DOMAIN=erebus.ca/SYSTEM  F The second oneputs it into the permanent configuration file, the first# one put it into the running system.   / (Not sure if /SYSTEM is needed in the SET CONF)        > 1 > $ tcpip set route /default /gateway=192.168.0.1 D > %TCPIP-E-ROUTEERROR, error accessing routes database (TCPIP$ROUTE)7 > -SYSTEM-F-FILALRACC, file already accessed on channel  > I > Any ideas on what "channel" is accessing the routes database, or how to  > correct this?    Do a    = PIPE SHOW DEV/FILES/NOSYS SYS$DISK: | SEARCH SYS$INPUT route    I and this would give you which processes are accessing the route database.   F You may wish to use the TCPIP$CONFIG to shutdown the TCPIP stack, then8 play with the route commands and then restart the stack.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:22:38 -0700 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>* Subject: Re: CONTEST: best Handheld for.../ Message-ID: <BEDBA0AE.FCFB%roktsci@comcast.net>   F On 6/19/05 10:34 AM, in article 42b5ac9f$0$1318$636a15ce@news.free.fr,0 "Didier Morandi" <prenom.nom@freesurf.fr> wrote:  I > I had my Palm Pilot 505 aged 5 stolen in my car yesterday (no, I had no  > passwords lists inside...) > ( > So it is time for me to get a new one. > ) > What is your best choice to be able to:  >  > read my mail > telephone  > log into my Alpha  > > > and all other standard time management and phone list tasks? > 	 > Thanks,  >  > D.6 I just recently got a Treo 650. Id does all that, plusI I've set Security Alerts and backup failures to come to my text pager. My J VMS systems are behind a firewall, and with the Treo's built in VPN, I can get to them nicely.   K There only two things that I can find as "mildly" lacking is the quality of & the telephone's audio, and EDT keypad.   Jeff   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:37:56 -0700 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>* Subject: Re: CONTEST: best Handheld for.../ Message-ID: <BEDBA444.FCFF%roktsci@comcast.net>   H On 6/19/05 10:22 PM, in article BEDBA0AE.FCFB%roktsci@comcast.net, "Jeff% Cameron" <roktsci@comcast.net> wrote:   H > On 6/19/05 10:34 AM, in article 42b5ac9f$0$1318$636a15ce@news.free.fr,2 > "Didier Morandi" <prenom.nom@freesurf.fr> wrote: > J >> I had my Palm Pilot 505 aged 5 stolen in my car yesterday (no, I had no >> passwords lists inside...)  >>  ) >> So it is time for me to get a new one.  >>  * >> What is your best choice to be able to: >>   >> read my mail  >> telephone >> log into my Alpha >>  ? >> and all other standard time management and phone list tasks?  >>  
 >> Thanks, >>   >> D. 8 > I just recently got a Treo 650. Id does all that, plusK > I've set Security Alerts and backup failures to come to my text pager. My L > VMS systems are behind a firewall, and with the Treo's built in VPN, I can > get to them nicely.  > M > There only two things that I can find as "mildly" lacking is the quality of ( > the telephone's audio, and EDT keypad. >  > Jeff >  > : When I speak of EDT keypad, I'm referring to lack thereof.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:55:03 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 6 Subject: Hackers and Microsoft Engineers, very amusing0 Message-ID: <11bc4seogho5u4c@corp.supernews.com>  # This link has a very amusing story.   ) http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24013   G Apparently Microsoft got together their software people and hackers to  E show how much more secure their products are.  It only took about 10  G minutes for the hackers to get the Microsoft programmers rather upset.  G Microsoft managers were quite happy.  They said that they kept talking  I at the programmers about security, to no avail.  The Hackers finally got    the programmer's attantion.  :-)   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:17:45 -0700  From: Z <Z@no.spam> : Subject: Re: Hackers and Microsoft Engineers, very amusing* Message-ID: <XOote.3931$mD6.2635@fe07.lga>   Dave Froble wrote:% > This link has a very amusing story. + > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24013 I > Apparently Microsoft got together their software people and hackers to  G > show how much more secure their products are.  It only took about 10  I > minutes for the hackers to get the Microsoft programmers rather upset.  I > Microsoft managers were quite happy.  They said that they kept talking  K > at the programmers about security, to no avail.  The Hackers finally got  " > the programmer's attantion.  :-)  F If you bother to follow the ZDNet link on the Inquirer's web page and ; read _that_ story, you'll get a much more accurate account.   8 And here is another, more factual, account of the event:V http://news.com.com/Microsoft+meets+the+hackers/2009-1002_3-5747813.html?tag=nefd.lede  C And, fwiw, the "exploit" wasn't a flaw in Windows but was luring a  7 laptop user to connect to a malicious wireless network.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:19:28 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com>< Subject: Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarm< Message-ID: <AQote.38971$Kw.732076@twister.southeast.rr.com>  M > Still, as we Americans like to say, I may not agree with what he says, but  $ > I will defend his right to say it.     Did you serve in the military?     Ken   % _____________________________________ " Kenneth R. Farmer <>< 336-736-7376# OpenVMS.org: http://www.OpenVMS.org ' dba.OpenVMS.org: http://dba.OpenVMS.org ' dcl.OpenVMS.org: http://dcl.OpenVMS.org           5 "Dave Froble" <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in message  * news:11b9n9rp6trnv94@corp.supernews.com...
 > Doc. wrote: < >> %NEWS-I-NEWMSG, Dave Froble wrote in news:11b8rdrd5tilrf4 >> @corp.supernews.com >> >>" >>>Doc is right, you are an idiot! >> >>D >> If I used those precise words, then it wasn't quite what I meant. > ' > From your post of June 17 at 4:22 PM:  >  > Beware, ad hominum attack: >  > You are an idiot.  > 5 >> JF can be a valuable contributor to the newsgroup,  >  > I would agree with that. > 4 >> but the majority of his posts are more political, > J > The real problem with his political posts is that he has an agenda, and J > when he replies to any post, it isn't rational debate of the content of @ > the post he's replying to, it's more rhetoric from his agenda. > . >> and particularly negative about the the US. > H > As he's free to do.  However, based upon much of the 20th Century, he + > might owe some of that freedom to the US.  > M > Still, as we Americans like to say, I may not agree with what he says, but  $ > I will defend his right to say it. > I >> [Before Bill Todd jumps in I'll point out that _I_ think a lot of the  L >> criticism is justified, but this may not be an appropriate forum for it.] > L > As do I.  Bush has been Bin Laden's best and most successful agent in the  > US.  > K >> So, I wouldn't call him an idiot.  I'd just say he's got tinfoil and he   >> knows how to use it. :-)  >>K >> As to the can of worms that is US policy on Israel, do you really think  H >> the Middle East would be such a mess if the US hadn't recognised the  >> state of Israel?  >> >>6 >> Doc. (who may well regret saying anything on this). > G > At some time you have to say "this is how things are".  A lot of the  L > problems in SE Europe are, as far as I understand it, people killing each M > other over something that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago.  At  F > some point we have to say, "Now is now!", and go on from that point. > K > The British moved the Jews to what is now Israel.  The Arabs didn't like  M > it and took military action against the Jews.  They were unsuccessful. One  L > might say that today is a continuation of that confrontation, and anybody K > that is in any way associated with Israel would be considered enemies by   > the Arabs. > L > Not saying that I like what Israel has done to the people who were living L > in Palestine in the 1940s, I don't.  But at some time all parties need to $ > accept the status quo and move on. > J > By the way, what would have been the alternative to recognizing a state K > that had proved that it could maintain itself?  Finishing the job Hitler  3 > started?  (Bet you're real sorry about now.)  :-)  > K > Personally, I have only one real problem with the peoples involved.  The  L > idea among some Muslems that infidels are lower than whale shit and don't H > deserve to live.  They have basically declared war on the rest of the I > world, aren't capable of proscuting the war, and the rest of the world  M > just ignores the pests until they do something like 9-11.  A resolution of    > that problem might be helpful. > 6 > And now I might regret having written anything.  :-) >  > --  6 > David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04506 > Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596@ > DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com > 170 Grimplin Road  > Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jun 2005 19:11:42 -0700 From: bob@instantwhip.com < Subject: Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarmB Message-ID: <1119233502.570726.76780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  B and there was only one man in history who fulfilled over 300 bibleA prophecies, rose people from the dead, healed the sick, walked on G water, and Himself rose from the dead .. and a lot of eye witnesses who E let themselves be tortured, beheaded, crucified, torn apart by lions, A burnt at the stake, boiled in oil, etc. all because this man that @ called Himself the Son of God was a phony?  I don't think so ...   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 21:41:07 -0700  From: Z <Z@no.spam> < Subject: Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarm, Message-ID: <BNrte.11781$wm2.10110@fe05.lga>   Bill Todd wrote: > icerq4a@spray.se wrote:  >  > ...  > E >> So, if you are a democracy and wear suits, whatever you do is OK ?  >  >  > ...  > 0 >> Hilarious black and white kind of thinking...? >> "If you are against us you are with the terrorist/communist"  >  > H > Just two of many comments I would have made had I considered the post C > worthy of a detailed response.  But it seems I was correct in my  F > suspicion that any such effort would have been wasted on the author. > I > Thanks for trying anyway:  we really do need to see a lot more of what  J > the world thinks about our current behavior right here at home, and our F > so-called liberal media aren't coming anywhere near to living up to F > their reputation in this area (though given their devotion to being K > cheerleaders for Bush's Iraq adventure in the first place, that's hardly  ? > surprising to anyone who has been paying any real attention).  > J > 'Black and white thinking' indeed captures a large part of the problem. J >  Add large portions of abject ignorance, intellectual laziness, and "My F > country, right or wrong!" jingoism, mix well with highly-competent, E > corporate-dominated media whose diminishing independent voices are  E > getting downright scared of speaking out too forcefully, and voila!  > J > Let's not forget that Germany was a democracy when Hitler was appointed F > Chancellor in January, 1933.  The Reichstag fire was his 9/11-style K > excuse for acquiring 'emergency powers' used to outlaw the Communist and  K > Socialist parties - though 12 million people still voted for them in the  I > March elections that year (where the Nazis got only 17.3 million votes  D > themselves, but that was enough for a majority in the Reichstag). H > Hitlers goons then sufficiently intimidated other Reichstag officials F > gathering for the vote on the Enabling Law (Hitler's version of the D > Patriot Act) which gave him and his government even more sweeping E > powers, and by July of that year the only legal political party in   > Germany was the Nazi Party.  > H > Identical situations?  No.  Disturbingly similar?  Decidedly so.  And G > the fact that they demonstrate how thin the line is between not just  I > nominal but actual, functioning democracy and absolute dictatorship is  J > irrefutable.  Israel has been perilously close to that line for decades F > now, though with at least *some* arguable rationale in terms of the J > situation in which it exists.  We've now followed in its footsteps with J > no arguable rationale whatsoever, save our refusal to temper in any way * > our dealings with the rest of the world.  + WTF does _any_ of this have to do with VMS?    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 05:00:05 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com>< Subject: Re: Intel neuters Montvale, Itanic screams in alarm< Message-ID: <p3ste.42226$Kw.746776@twister.southeast.rr.com>  5 "Dave Froble" <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in message  * news:11bcfbhpgubf9f2@corp.supernews.com... > Kenneth Farmer wrote: J >>>Still, as we Americans like to say, I may not agree with what he says, ) >>>but I will defend his right to say it.  >> >> >>! >> Did you serve in the military?  >  > US Army, 1966-1969.     $ Ouch, tough years to be in the Army.   Ken   % _____________________________________ " Kenneth R. Farmer <>< 336-736-7376# OpenVMS.org: http://www.OpenVMS.org ' dba.OpenVMS.org: http://dba.OpenVMS.org ( dcl.OpenVMS.org: http://dcl.OpenVMS.org    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jun 2005 20:53:38 -0700 From: skearney@accessbee.com Subject: OT: vms keyboard C Message-ID: <1119239618.145968.244870@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   D The subject of the Dvorak keyboard has come up half a dozen times inE this group.  While Keytweak may be irrelevant, the transposition dfjk E with etni will increase the amount of text typed from these four home  keys by almost 500%.    
 Aset keyboard E It has been said that the most common letters were taken off the home @ row of the first typewriter keyboard to slow down the typist and prevent jamming.G On a Dvorak keyboard almost sixty percent of average text is typed from E the home keys.  Transposing the letters 'etni' with 'dfjk'  would put F more than 55% of text on the home keys, up from only 26% on the qwertyG layout.  Thats more than twice the text typed without lifting a finger.   E The change is quite pleasant and easy to learn.  I hope you will pass  this on.  @ To put e, t, n and i back where they belong, there is a keyboardE remapping program that is free, downloads quickly and is very easy to @ use.  I am typing this post on a keyboard remapped to the 'etni'G transposition layout.  The program is called 'Keytweak 2.11' and can be G googled up by that name.  It is available from several sites, including  PC magazine.  2 1)  After you have loaded the program click start.F 2)  Click the "KeyTweak" icon and a graphic of a keyboard will appear.< 3)  Click the "Full Teach Mode" at the bottom of the screen.1 4)  A box will appear.  Click "Begin Teach Mode". @ 5)  Press the key you want to reassign, then the key you want it# reassigned to, in this case D to E.   6)  Click "Remap Key#1 to Key#2"G 7)  The box will disappear and the scancodes of the keys will appear in 1 the "Pending Changes" window at the bottom right. D 8)  Follow the same procedure (from 3) for E to D, and the remaining six remaps. C 9)  Click "Apply" and you will be asked if you want to turn off the  computer to apply the changes.D      At the top there is also a clickable "Restore Defaults" to give you back your qwerty layout.E      I was able to remap in under three minutes and restore qwerty in * thirty seconds, not including the restart.  D You can try out the sample lines of text below to discover that your* fingers already know where etni should go.  , nineteen lean little saints settle in a nest, jkjdfddj ldaj lkffld sakjfs sdffld kj a jdsf  ' an alien eats an ant antenna in atlanta ' aj alkdj dafs aj ajf ajfdjja kj aflajfa   , elite sense entails a siesta in a satin seat, dlkfd sdjsd djfakls a skdsfa kj a safkj sdaf   a stain is seen at a linen sale  a sfakj ks sddj af a lkjdj sald   + a latent latin talent tast tests in seattle + a lafdjf lafkj faldjf fasf fdsfs kj sdaffld    insane santa sails in sea salt kjsajd sajfa sakls kj sda salf    Many thanks    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:37:44 GMT  From: gcash <gcash@cfl.rr.com>% Subject: Please do not feed the troll % Message-ID: <r7exerkr.fsf@cfl.rr.com>    Just ignore this idiot...    --  F Really rare steak is where you just explain the concept of fire to the5 animal. You should at least show it a box of matches.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:31:24 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ) Subject: Re: SURVEY: Best Handheld for... , Message-ID: <42B63874.3ED25F51@teksavvy.com>   Didier Morandi wrote: ) > What is your best choice to be able to:  >  > read my mail > telephone  > log into my Alpha   ! The PSION Series 3 was the best.  M The Series 5 was more jazzy, more capable, but not as good a software design.   G PSION is defunct, but its products are still available on ebay, or from J some british outfits. But in long term, little software will be available.  ? There are some new Nokia handsets which are quirte capable now.   H Also, there are some Linux based PDAs from some japanese outfits such as Sharp (I think).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 16:46:21 -0400 # From: BC Berry <nobody@spamcop.net> % Subject: UCX connect function timeout 8 Message-ID: <9rkbb1hl1blmg4ms9qu48730p317gdavb4@4ax.com>  D The timeout on a connect function appears to be about 90 seconds. IsD there a way to change that timeout? Being blocked for a minute and aE half every time I try to access an offline logging machine is killing  me.    --O E-mail address is invalid due to spam overflow - Please reply in the newsgroup.  --   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Jun 2005 17:01:52 -0700 From: dooleys@snowy.net.au& Subject: Re: unix script on VMS to DOSC Message-ID: <1119225712.057466.204840@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    chris wrote:H > Were having problems with UNIX scripts that have been created on a VMSM > system , which are then FTP'd to a DOS system. The problem is when the file L > is read in from the DOS system all its line feeds and carridge returns are! > screwed up from the VMS system.  > K > Is there any utility out there to view line feeds and carridge returms on G > DOs??? the file is saved as a txt file or EDF file. , currently viewd  > through notepad.J > We end up manually going through the files on the DOS system checking if > line feeds /tabs etc are ok. > M > The only other alternative is to change the code on how the file is read in 6 > (i.e. ignore carridge returns, tabs and line feeds.)6 If you use wordpad instead of notepad to view the file" and then "save" it, all will be ok Phil   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.342 ************************