1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 16 Mar 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 150       Contents:) Alpha Basic 1.5 error with DEF functions. & Announcing Availability Manager V2.4-18 Re: CDRECORD (et al.) v. VMS version: How many, how old?8 Re: CDRECORD (et al.) v. VMS version: How many, how old?8 Re: CDRECORD (et al.) v. VMS version: How many, how old?" CD_PLAYER.uil: UIL compiler errors Re: Configure issue  Re: Configure issue  Re: Configure issue 2 DCPS ascii to PS converter. How to select charset?6 Re: DCPS ascii to PS converter. How to select charset? Re: DecWindows Redraw  Re: DIFF/IGNORE=WHITE_SPACE * RE: FW: DECC : toupper/tolower performance* Re: FW: DECC : toupper/tolower performance* Re: FW: DECC : toupper/tolower performance# Re: Ghostview vs Display Postscript   RE: MQ Series: Potential BUGCHK? Re: OT: Outsourcing humour OT: Outsourcing humour Re: OT: Outsourcing humour Re: OT: Outsourcing humourA Outlook quoting - was: Re: FW: DECC : toupper/tolower performance  request $ search/quiet Re: request $ search/quiet Re: request $ search/quiet Re: request $ search/quiet Re: request $ search/quiet Re: request $ search/quiet Re: request $ search/quiet Re: request $ search/quiet Re: request $ search/quiet Re: request $ search/quiet( Re: Request for feedback - Remote CTRL-T( Re: Request for feedback - Remote CTRL-T* Re: Setting density of SDLT in VMS 7.2-2 ?* Re: Setting density of SDLT in VMS 7.2-2 ?* Re: Setting density of SDLT in VMS 7.2-2 ?  Re: VAX OpenVMs Java - JVM? SDK? VAX OpenVMs Java - JVM? SDK?  Re: VAX OpenVMs Java - JVM? SDK? VMS SSH and X11 tunneling  Re: Windows anti-spyware Windows anti-spyware  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 09:01:53 -0800) From: carfer@gmail.com (Carlos Fernandez) 2 Subject: Alpha Basic 1.5 error with DEF functions.= Message-ID: <f4a8f670.0503160901.6221c56c@posting.google.com>    Hi all,   E I get the following error when compiling this litle sample with Alpha 	 Basic 1.5 E If I substitute the Xfloat data type for Gfloat, I get no errors. But F I need it working with Xfloats. The sample provided is much basic than) what I need though has the same problems.    Any one has any idea?    TIA    Carlos Fernandez   Sample program.    OPTION TYPE = EXPLICIT# DECLARE XFLOAT FUNCTION OK (XFLOAT)     DEF XFLOAT OK  (XFLOAT OK_ENTRA)?      OK_ENTRA = 0 IF (OK_ENTRA < 0.0001 AND OK_ENTRA > -0.0001)       OK = OK_ENTRA END DEF    declare xfloat numero    input 'numero = ';numero NUMERO = OK (NUMERO) print numero      C Assertion failure:  Compiler internal error - please submit problem  reportA %GEM-F-ASSERTION, Compiler internal error - please submit problem  report/ %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows C   image    module    routine             line      rel PC            abs PC>  BASIC  GEM_DB  GEM_DB_ABORT_FAST         736 00000000000000CC 000000000054393C,  BASIC  GEM_CD_UTIL  GEM_CD_EMIT_INSTRUCTION>                                          1825 0000000000000D54 0000000000736F34'  BASIC  GEM_CD_ALPHA  GEM_CD_MOVE_VALUE >                                          2960 00000000000024E4 0000000000739D04>  BASIC  GEM_CD  CD_INTERP                8219 0000000000007724 0000000000741E34>  BASIC  GEM_CD  GEM_CD                   1575 000000000000013C 000000000073A84C>  BASIC  GEM_CG  GEM_CG                    820 0000000000000414 0000000000745804>  BASIC  GEM_CO  GEM_CO_COMPILE_ROUTINE   5917 0000000000008578 0000000000530E38>  BASIC  GEM_CO  GEM_CO_COMPILE_MODULE    3617 0000000000000D60 0000000000529620>  BASIC  BASTARTUP  COMPILE_MODULE        1828 0000000000000AB4 0000000000390DD4+  BASIC  BASTARTUP  ENV_ENTER_BASIC_COMPILER >                                          1590 00000000000008DC 0000000000390BFC>  BASIC  GEM_CP_VMS  GEM_CP_MAIN          2603 00000000000018CC 000000000051008C>                                             0 FFFFFFFF8028759C FFFFFFFF8028759C   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:05:45 GMT 0 From: "Barry Kierstein" <Barry.Kierstein@HP.Com>/ Subject: Announcing Availability Manager V2.4-1 1 Message-ID: <Z2XZd.1777$G72.724@news.cpqcorp.net>   4 The Availability Manager team is pleased to announce  > the release of the Availability Manager Version 2.4-1. The kit  1 is now available on the Web at the following URL:         4 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/availman/      < The main new feature of this kit is support for OpenVMS V8.2  C on both the I64 and Alpha platforms. Other new features and changes   # are described in the release notes.    A couple of additional notes:   7     o If you are running on OpenVMS Version 6.2 through   ? Version 7.2-n, and you have installed the Availability Manager,   @ you will need to install the Availability Manager Data Collector  @ Version 2.4 before you install the Version 2.4-1 Data Collector.  @ This is necessary to correct various irregularities that existed  & in previous Availability Manager kits.  =     o Because the Availability Manager Data Collector for I64   E is part of the Enterprise Operating Environment (EOE) licensing tier,   D there are upcoming changes in how this software will be distributed.  C See the I64 licensing link near the top of the Availability Manager   F home page, and the Product Support page farther down on the home page.      1 Thank you for using our products. If you have any   0 questions or comments, please let the team know.   The Availability Manager Team    OpenVMS Engineering    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 08:21:01 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>A Subject: Re: CDRECORD (et al.) v. VMS version: How many, how old? C Message-ID: <1110990061.140462.267140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    Steven M. Schweda wrote:E > Early inspection of CDRTOOLS 2.0 (which includes CDRECORD, MKISOFS, ? > and friends) suggests that it won't be easy on VMS (or C RTL)  versionsC > before V7.x.  (DEC C V4.0 on VMS V5.5-2 looks hard.  I don't have F > anything running VMS V6.x these days, but it might be better there.) > A >    1.  How many people actually care about this software on VMS  versions >    before V7.x?      I, for one. v6.2 to be precise.     E >    2.  What's the oldest VMS environment where anyone runs CDRECORD  1=2Ex?     I use   C     Cdrecord release 1.8a9 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 J=F6rg Schilling   B on VMS v6.2 and it works great! I don't know if that's the oldest!    D >    3.  How many people would be upset (or even annoyed) by a build& >    system which requires MMS or MMK?    D I already have an .exe that works, don't expect to have to modify it& ever, so I won't be building anything.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 09:24:09 -0800 From: jordan@ccs4vms.comA Subject: Re: CDRECORD (et al.) v. VMS version: How many, how old? B Message-ID: <1110993849.847031.11630@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Steven M. Schweda wrote:E > Early inspection of CDRTOOLS 2.0 (which includes CDRECORD, MKISOFS, ? > and friends) suggests that it won't be easy on VMS (or C RTL)  versionsC > before V7.x.  (DEC C V4.0 on VMS V5.5-2 looks hard.  I don't have F > anything running VMS V6.x these days, but it might be better there.) > A >    1.  How many people actually care about this software on VMS  versions >    before V7.x?  >   E I have no concerns; what I need to do right now works fine with older  versions of the software.   E >    2.  What's the oldest VMS environment where anyone runs CDRECORD  1.x? >   E CDRecord V1.8a9 on VAX/VMS V6.2.  The only older system runs VMS V6.1 C but will never need CDR capability.  If I absolutely had to I could F upgrade this to VAX/VMS V7.3 but its a VS3100-30 GPX so I'd prefer notE to.  Usage is very low volume, and ODS only; no silly peecee formats.   B Most of the real work happens on a (currently V7.3-2) Alpha system running CDRecord 2.01a19;   D >    3.  How many people would be upset (or even annoyed) by a build& >    system which requires MMS or MMK? >   C As long as binaries (or linkable objects) continue to be available, D this is a non issue for me at least; if Hunter's MMK is needed for a$ source build, that is not a problem.   > 6 >    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-9818   Thanks for the effort!   Rich CCS    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:11:57 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)A Subject: Re: CDRECORD (et al.) v. VMS version: How many, how old? 2 Message-ID: <05031611115778_28400268@antinode.org>  $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>  C > >    1.  How many people actually care about this software on VMS  > > versions before V7.x?  > ! > I, for one. v6.2 to be precise.       Ok.  N > >    2.  What's the oldest VMS environment where anyone runs CDRECORD 1=2Ex? >  > I use E >     Cdrecord release 1.8a9 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 J=F6rg Schilling D > on VMS v6.2 and it works great! I don't know if that's the oldest!  B    I suggest SET RMS /BLOCK = 127, if you're not already doing it.  F > >    3.  How many people would be upset (or even annoyed) by a build( > >    system which requires MMS or MMK? > F > I already have an .exe that works, don't expect to have to modify it( > ever, so I won't be building anything.  -    You're not much good to me, then, are you?   H    The only real changes to cdrecord itself are the improved RMS defaultH parameters, command-line case preservation (with SET PROC /PARSE = EXT),I and the exit handler to restore process priority.  Same for cdda2wav and  D readcd.  Mkisofs gets that stuff plus a few minor fixes and featuresG like some ODS5 support (where available).  Theoretically, it can all be A built with the large-file option (where available), but I'm still % pre-DVD, so that's not really tested.   F    In short, none of it's breath-taking.  The new build scheme is niceF (I claim) if you do any development work on it, but a typical user mayE not care much.  It may help to keep the VMS editions up to date.  I'd F just like to know how much trouble I'll be in if I can get the changes> incorporated into the main code stream (before it's too late).   From: jordan@ccs4vms.com  ( > [...] CDRecord V1.8a9 on VAX/VMS V6.2. > [...] L > [...] if Hunter's MMK is needed for a source build, that is not a problem. > [...]   E    Swell.  Thanks for the info.  Anyone desperate to try building the : stuff in a VMS V6.x environment is welcome to let me know.  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Mar 2005 16:49:38 GMT From: user1@Eason.CC.URegina.CA + Subject: CD_PLAYER.uil: UIL compiler errors / Message-ID: <d19o32$9sc$1@heckle.cc.uregina.ca>   7   On an AlphaVMS 6.2 system, the UIL compilation of Joe >   Meadow's CD_PLAYER.UIL program spits out the following error
   message:     $ uil/motif  CD_PLAYER.UIL       foreground color = '*'),     * D     %UIL-E-WRONG_TYPE, found inline color_table value when expecting2                        color_table reference value5     line: 525  file: EASB5:[CD_PLAYER]CD_PLAYER.UIL;1        foreground color = '*'),     * D     %UIL-E-WRONG_TYPE, found inline color_table value when expecting2                        color_table reference value5     line: 565  file: EASB5:[CD_PLAYER]CD_PLAYER.UIL;1 P                                                                                >,     %%UIL-I-NO_UID, no UID file was produced     Both lines look like: 5     color_table = color_table(background color = ' ',           foreground color = '*'),          How do I correct this error?     Thank you.     Mahendra Rajah            ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:45:06 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond)  Subject: Re: Configure issue1 Message-ID: <6wYZd.1787$G72.385@news.cpqcorp.net>   @ You can also find some possibly useful information by searching H SYS$UPDATE:*.CLD for "define verb".  "configure" is found in DCLINT.CLD. --  J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 10:35:30 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: Configure issue3 Message-ID: <A3LHXOv6wUsS@eisner.encompasserve.org>   g In article <6wYZd.1787$G72.385@news.cpqcorp.net>, hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) writes: B > You can also find some possibly useful information by searching J > SYS$UPDATE:*.CLD for "define verb".  "configure" is found in DCLINT.CLD.  9 That works on Alpha, which is where Configure is defined.   G But those files SYS$UPDATE:*.CLD do not exist on VAX, so it seems to me / that VERB is a better general purpose solution.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:54:42 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond)  Subject: Re: Configure issue2 Message-ID: <Cp_Zd.1805$jg2.1638@news.cpqcorp.net>  c In article <A3LHXOv6wUsS@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: h >In article <6wYZd.1787$G72.385@news.cpqcorp.net>, hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) writes:C >> You can also find some possibly useful information by searching  K >> SYS$UPDATE:*.CLD for "define verb".  "configure" is found in DCLINT.CLD.  > : >That works on Alpha, which is where Configure is defined. > H >But those files SYS$UPDATE:*.CLD do not exist on VAX, so it seems to me0 >that VERB is a better general purpose solution.  F It actually works on Alpha and I64, but not on VAX, as Larry correctly points out.    Is VERB available for I64?   --  J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:48:58 +0400 & From: Valentin Likoum <me@privacy.net>; Subject: DCPS ascii to PS converter. How to select charset? , Message-ID: <39qh8tF63omc9U1@individual.net>  
 Hello, All  = DCPS v2.2, printer HP lj 2200. Postscript source (below) with 3 cyrillic text in KOI8 encoding is printed correctly   	 --------- & $ print/queue=hp2200 cour8.pfa,test.ps< $! cour8.pfa contains Courier cyrillic font in KOI8 encoding   $ type test.ps %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 + /CourierCyrPS findfont 50 scalefont setfont # %CourierCyrPS font is loaded before  10 50 moveto# (testa \364\305\323\324 testb) show * %      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - cyrillic letters showpage	 ---------   C   But when I try to print the same text  from the plain ascii file, * cyrillic letters are not printed correctly  	 --------- 2 $ print/queue=hp2200 cour8.pfa,setfont.ps,test.txt+ $! cour8.pfa contains Courier cyrillic font    $ ty setfont.ps  %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 + /CourierCyrPS findfont 50 scalefont setfont   
 $ ty test.txt  testa  testb $!    ^^^^ - cyrillic letters 	 ---------   A   The problem seems to be in ASCII->PS converter. It transfers to 8 the printer set of modules from dcps$devctl.tlb and some$ unidentified module which looks like5 sys$common:[syshlp.examples.dcps]LPS_ANSI_PROLOGUE.PS D I think the latter redefine font and/or charset (it contains phrases< like "sixel_encoding_low31", "generate_sixelfont") How can ID convince converter not to do so? Or how can I change/substitute thisA module (obviously it comes not from dcps$devctl, but where is it?  hardcoded in converter?)   Thank you.   --  
 Best regards, 	  Valentin (  valentin.likoum at ncc dot volga dot ru   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:38:15 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@yeksavvy.com> ? Subject: Re: DCPS ascii to PS converter. How to select charset? B Message-ID: <1110994689.5399ee8fef83a4318b6fb728ab11a7e2@teranews>   Valentin Likoum wrote:( > $ print/queue=hp2200 cour8.pfa,test.ps> > $! cour8.pfa contains Courier cyrillic font in KOI8 encoding    3 >   The problem seems to be in ASCII->PS converter.   F Paul Anderson gave me a trick recently to get the actual stuff sent toA /from the printer. It generates DCPS*LOG files in your sys$login.   /    $ DEFINE /EXECUTIVE_MODE /SYSTEM DCPS$TEST 1 *    $ PRINT /PARAMETERS=DIAG=FILE=BOTH file  G The PARA=FONTS_USED seems to refer to LN03 proprietary fonts as opposed D to postscript fonts, but if it had been pased on postcript fonts, it' would have been your ticket to success.     ( Looking at one such log of my login.com:   TRN$XLATE_DICT begin  $ vmstatus pop /dllvminit exch def pop1 S S S S C %process_tray_select, tray_number: 1000  TRN$ANSI_BOX_0   1 -1 F 0 -79200 T  1800 1800 T 
 0 839 M S ; ($  IF F$MODE\(\) .NES. "INTERACTIVE" THEN GOTO ENDINTER) D   A The font is set in this case by TRN$ANSI_BOX which si defined as:   < /TRN$ANSI_BOX_0    { /TRN$ANSI_FONT_0 findfont setfont } def    ! /TRN$ANSI_FONT_DICT_0 17 dict def  TRN$ANSI_FONT_DICT_0 begin  /FontName (/TRN$ANSI_FONT_0) def /FontType 3 def  /BuildChar /BuildChar load def /Encoding McsEncoding def  /UniqueID 3658490 def ( /FullName (TRN$ANSI_FONT_0) readonly def end   4 (I've removed font dictionary entries not relevant).  E The BuildChar procedure is defined elsewhere, and if the character is C "known", then it is taken from the /CourierMCS font defined earlier 9 (Courier with dec multinational character set encoding).    D So, it creates CourierMcs based on Courier, then it creates a type 3@ font TRN$ANSI_FONT_x based on CourierMCS with some additions forC specific character drawings if the character is not known inside of % CourierMcs (and implicitely Courier).   H The prologue actually creates a series of TRN$ANSI_FONT_x fonts. 0 seems  to normal printable characters, ; 4 seems to be for line drawing and technical character set.   G In the code I have seen, bolding is not done by obtaining Courier-Bold, H but rather by printing the roman Courier 3 times with a slight offset in each direction.   A Underlining is achieved by using the start position of the string G (stored in variables before each show), and drawing the lines under the @ strings. Both the bodl;ing and inderlining are achieved by codes/ executing outside of the font definition stuff.   G Italics are achieved by more conventional font transformation matrix on  the current font.   = So if you are able to insert code after the DEC supplied font G definitions, you'd need to redefine the varous TRN$ANSI_FONT_x fonts to 3 match your real russian font with its own encoding.   H If the postscript setup modules are sent after that ansi prologue stuff,+ then it shoud be fairly easy to accomplish.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:58:54 GMT * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com> Subject: Re: DecWindows Redraw1 Message-ID: <2JYZd.1790$mJ1.710@news.cpqcorp.net>   F You can "probably" extract the image files from the PCSI file and copy- them to the right place and it "should" work.   . "Bobby" <colemanr7@yahoo.com> wrote in message< news:1110916223.912665.92500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...E > The only reason I haven't upgraded is that I don't currently have a I > 7.3-2 CD.  I've sent a message to our HP sales rep asking about this so I > that I can order a copy of 7.3-2 but haven't gotten a response yet.  Is E > there any way to just download maintenance updates like this (i.e.,  > 7.3-2 from 7.3-1)? >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:22:47 +0100 , From: "Dr. Dweeb" <5msg0h202@sneakemail.com>$ Subject: Re: DIFF/IGNORE=WHITE_SPACE= Message-ID: <423808f5$0$80883$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>    Karsten Nyblad wrote:  > Bob Kaplow wrote: E >> OK, now how about the new option I've been asking to ahve included  >> for at least TWO DECADES: >> >> $ set term /NOTYPO  >> >> :-) >>@ >> (you can see why I need it above, that was an accident, but I3 >> deliberately left it as it came off my keyboard)  > L > http://www.comics.com/comics/workingdaze/archive/workingdaze-20050315.html  - I resurrected this link from a few years ago.   ! http://www.lerfjhax.com/70.0.html    Knock yourselves out.   
 Dr. Dweeb.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:08:17 +1100 6 From: "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au>3 Subject: RE: FW: DECC : toupper/tolower performance X Message-ID: <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05F64F@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.local>  L I give up ... doing a reply does not add chevrons (I'm in bloody outlook), =, and my attempt to add was very unsuccessful.  0 I get very shakey when I use anything Microsoft.  L Simon, no our telnet ports are blocked from my VMS boxes.  I have had in th=* e past the same offer from Phillip Helbig.   Regards, Paddy   >----Original Message----- >From: Simon Clubley6 >[mailto:clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP]# >Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:37  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com4 >Subject: RE: FW: DECC : toupper/tolower performance    L n article <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05F64E@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.trans=E grid.local>, "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au> writes:  >=20< > I apologise to the group, I was unaware that was the case. >=20L > Well I am now on *a* Microsoft machine, but I wasn't then.  It looks like=  I=3D L > 'm going to have to borrow a colleague's machine anytime I want to send m= ai=3D  > l :-(  >=20  , Can you SSH or Telnet to the outside world ?  H If so, then you can get an account on Eisner. Telnet to eisner.decus.org to get started.    Simon.   --=20 D Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP      =207 Microsoft: The Standard Oil Company of the 21st century     G ***********************************************************************   C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged @ and confidential information intended only for the use of the=20D addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of=20C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise D the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,=207 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.   C If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid=20 C immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the=20 ? individual sender except where the sender expressly and with=20 C authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  TransGrid uses > virus-scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses contained in any attachment.  < Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now$ firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au"  G ***********************************************************************    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:34:21 +0000 (UTC) % From: Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> 3 Subject: Re: FW: DECC : toupper/tolower performance 6 Message-ID: <slrnd3fs1k.79i.usenet@gaia.roc2.gblx.net>  
 In articleM <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05F64F@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.local>, 5 O'Brien Paddy <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au> wrote: B > I give up ... doing a reply does not add chevrons (I'm in bloody8 > outlook), and my attempt to add was very unsuccessful. > 2 > I get very shakey when I use anything Microsoft. > G > Simon, no our telnet ports are blocked from my VMS boxes.  I have had 1 > in the past the same offer from Phillip Helbig.   G Several suggestions -- if you use a PC, see if you can get outbound ssh B to work (if it isn't blocked) with a free SSH client called PuTTy.  2 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/  G eisner.encompasserve.org also runs SSH (Multinet's; very good) as well.   4 Also, for the quoting stuff, perhaps take a look at:   Outlook:   http://jump.to/outlook-quotefix    Outlook Express:  1 http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/   H (I haven't tried it, personally, since I don't have a Windows box at theF moment. It seems to be a popular enhancement according to Yahoo search results rankings.)  G And I also get the impression that Outlook may have some sort of option  to enable quoting (chevrons).    -Dan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:05:06 -0500 < From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>3 Subject: Re: FW: DECC : toupper/tolower performance , Message-ID: <39r3plF61ebcpU1@individual.net>   O'Brien Paddy wrote:B > I give up ... doing a reply does not add chevrons (I'm in bloody8 > outlook), and my attempt to add was very unsuccessful. > ...   ? If you are using Outlook 2000 then try this (if you are using a H different Outlook or Outlook Express post the version to get the correct steps),    1. Click on the tools menu 2. Select Options = 3. Select the Preferences tab (it should already be selected) " 4. Click the E-Mail Options button. 5. You should see the bottom section that says#             On replies and Forwards '                 When reply to a message %                     drop down choices )                 When forwarding a message %                     drop down choices &                 Prefix each line with:  H 6. Change the two drop down choices to "Prefix each line of the originalE message" and type the ">" character into the "Prefix each line with:"  box.  & That should fix at least that problem.     --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:38:56 +0100 ' From: JOUKJ <joukj@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl> , Subject: Re: Ghostview vs Display Postscript; Message-ID: <1cc95$4237f0a0$82a1f19e$4270@news1.tudelft.nl>    JF Mezei wrote: H > Develooping a postscript program that was fairly simple, I was able toI > use the CDA viewer to test it as the program was being developped. (CDA H > viewer doesn't support PS level 2). One really neat foption is to haveI > it progressively display the outpout as it is being rasterised. So when H > it fails, you have a good idea of where it fails, on top of the actual > error message. > H > Considering that display postscript is no longer availble to those whoB > upgraded beyond 7.2, does Ghostview have a similar capability to> > progressively display a page as it is being executed/drawn ? > I > Having level 2 (at least) support on VMS would be really nice, since it I > would save me from having to send the postscript over to my mac to have I > it processed into a pdf and check the error messages, and then open the  > output with acrobat reader.  > 9 > (with the cda viewer, it is all done in one operation). E Since GV uses GhostScript (gs) to interpret the Postscript file, You  2 will have an even newer Postcript level available.                      Jouk    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:08:16 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> ) Subject: RE: MQ Series: Potential BUGCHK? R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB595057@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----> > From: David J Dachtera [mailto:djesys.nospam@comcast.net]=20 > Sent: March 15, 2005 10:16 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com ' > Subject: MQ Series: Potential BUGCHK?  >=20= > Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about this one:  >=20A > We had a galaxy instance on a GS160 crash due to an "invalid=20  > time queue> > entry format" BugCheck. The HP guys working the call have=20 > indicated that< > some other sites have recently (in fairly short order!)=20 > reported crashes6 > with a similar footprint. The VMS version is V7.3-2. >=20? > The most notable recent change was an update of MQ Series.=20  >=20? > This was in development and not on the production cluster.=20  > So, we're not " > in a serious impact position.=20 >=207 > Has anyone else seen this, or know anything about it?  >=20 > --=20  > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ >=20   David,  H Not the exact symptoms, but might be related - do you have the following" VMS patch for MQ Series installed:F ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/alpha/V7.3-2/VMS732_MQ-V0100.txtD " 6.2.1  Possible PFIPLHI crash when using the IBM MQ Series V5.3 or V5.1 with CSD4.    6.2.1.1  Problem Description:   A This kit fixes a potential PFIPLHI system crash that can occur on 8 systems using the IBM MQ Series V5.3 or V5.1 with CSD4."   Regards      Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:05:53 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch># Subject: Re: OT: Outsourcing humour , Message-ID: <39qlo8F6642gfU1@individual.net>   Dr. Dweeb wrote:  L > http://www.comics.com/comics/workingdaze/archive/workingdaze-20050221.html >  >   / "McDonald's outsources drive-through staffing":   @ http://management.silicon.com/careers/0,39024671,39128656,00.htm   :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:50:51 +0100 , From: "Dr. Dweeb" <5msg0h202@sneakemail.com> Subject: OT: Outsourcing humour = Message-ID: <42381d99$0$80887$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>   J http://www.comics.com/comics/workingdaze/archive/workingdaze-20050221.html   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 07:39:12 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: OT: Outsourcing humour 3 Message-ID: <bQOa6md7nbaA@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <39qlo8F6642gfU1@individual.net>, Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch> writes:  > 1 > "McDonald's outsources drive-through staffing":  > B > http://management.silicon.com/careers/0,39024671,39128656,00.htm  D    They already tried that in Colorado, now they're trying it in theD    northeast.  Which means either the Colorado thing worked, or they!    think they know why it failed.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:03:02 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> # Subject: Re: OT: Outsourcing humour , Message-ID: <Y7KdnevRVK8EoaXfRVn-tg@igs.net>   Bob Koehler wrote:9 > In article <39qlo8F6642gfU1@individual.net>, Paul Sture  > <paul.sture@decus.ch> writes:  >>2 >> "McDonald's outsources drive-through staffing": >>C >> http://management.silicon.com/careers/0,39024671,39128656,00.htm  > F >    They already tried that in Colorado, now they're trying it in theF >    northeast.  Which means either the Colorado thing worked, or they# >    think they know why it failed.     < Why stop with North Dakota accents? Extend it to its logicalH conclusion.....India & Bangladesh call centers, where pronounciation andB comprehension bi-directionally will cause your order to be just asF screwed-up as if the neighborhood kid working a McJob took your order.   --F OpenVMS - The never advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:43:49 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>J Subject: Outlook quoting - was: Re: FW: DECC : toupper/tolower performance, Message-ID: <39qddtF62f77fU1@individual.net>   Dan Foster wrote:    > In articleO > <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05F64F@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.local>, 7 > O'Brien Paddy <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au> wrote:  > B >>I give up ... doing a reply does not add chevrons (I'm in bloody8 >>outlook), and my attempt to add was very unsuccessful. >>2 >>I get very shakey when I use anything Microsoft. >>G >>Simon, no our telnet ports are blocked from my VMS boxes.  I have had 1 >>in the past the same offer from Phillip Helbig.  >  > I > Several suggestions -- if you use a PC, see if you can get outbound ssh D > to work (if it isn't blocked) with a free SSH client called PuTTy. > 4 > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ > I > eisner.encompasserve.org also runs SSH (Multinet's; very good) as well.  > 6 > Also, for the quoting stuff, perhaps take a look at: > 
 > Outlook: > ! > http://jump.to/outlook-quotefix  >  > Outlook Express: > 3 > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/  > J > (I haven't tried it, personally, since I don't have a Windows box at theH > moment. It seems to be a popular enhancement according to Yahoo search > results rankings.) > I > And I also get the impression that Outlook may have some sort of option2 > to enable quoting (chevrons).  > H I couldn't tell you precisely which version of Outlook I was using, but < I did find chevron quoting buried somewhere in the settings.  F On a related subject, I'm using Thunderbird here and when replying to G posts it nicely strips out properly formatted sig lines. I notice that rI quite a number of posters don't have properly formatted sig lines, which S9 start with a double hypen followed by a space, like this:c   -- S    ^
    |--- spacel  E just a minor niggle, but it saves time when replying and reduces the W "clutter" in a thread.  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:45:55 +0000p0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> Subject: request $ search/quiet 3 Message-ID: <d18ro2$4d$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>e  C What I'd really like, since Guy's doing such a sterling job on dcl  : enhancements, is a /quiet or /notouch qualifier on search.  E We use expiry dates to identify unused files, but search *.* touches  H them all - typically you're only interested in (some of) the ones which " match, and you'll read them again.  E directory doesn't update expiry, and RMS has provision to not update hE expiry - would be nice if search did too, as an option, for backward a compatibility.   Chrise   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:31:26 +01002& From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch># Subject: Re: request $ search/quiet , Message-ID: <39qcmmF653ireU1@individual.net>   Chris Sharman wrote:  E > What I'd really like, since Guy's doing such a sterling job on dcl e< > enhancements, is a /quiet or /notouch qualifier on search. > G > We use expiry dates to identify unused files, but search *.* touches lJ > them all - typically you're only interested in (some of) the ones which $ > match, and you'll read them again. > G > directory doesn't update expiry, and RMS has provision to not update  G > expiry - would be nice if search did too, as an option, for backward e > compatibility. >   F I'll second that one. On the occasions I've really wanted to preserve G expiry dates I've used BACKUP to grab a copy and searched that, but it  = can be very time consuming, and of course it eats disk space.N   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:26:36 +0000F- From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com><# Subject: Re: request $ search/quiet , Message-ID: <39qg3qF64ui61U1@individual.net>   Paul Sture wrote:    > Chris Sharman wrote: > F >> What I'd really like, since Guy's doing such a sterling job on dcl = >> enhancements, is a /quiet or /notouch qualifier on search.a >>H >> We use expiry dates to identify unused files, but search *.* touches E >> them all - typically you're only interested in (some of) the ones  + >> which match, and you'll read them again.O >>H >> directory doesn't update expiry, and RMS has provision to not update H >> expiry - would be nice if search did too, as an option, for backward  >> compatibility.0 >> > H > I'll second that one. On the occasions I've really wanted to preserve I > expiry dates I've used BACKUP to grab a copy and searched that, but it T? > can be very time consuming, and of course it eats disk space.C  G I've had plenty of occasions when I wanted to preserve the expiry dates < too (and I use them for exactly the same reason Chris does).  4 I use DFU to reset them back to the previous values.  . "DFU is the System Manager's Best Friend (TM)"  	 Roy OmondE Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:54:52 +0200D0 From: "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_hp.com># Subject: Re: request $ search/quietC* Message-ID: <42381f94@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  = "Chris Sharman" <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> wrote in messageS- news:d18ro2$4d$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...0D > What I'd really like, since Guy's doing such a sterling job on dcl< > enhancements, is a /quiet or /notouch qualifier on search. >aF > We use expiry dates to identify unused files, but search *.* touchesI > them all - typically you're only interested in (some of) the ones which $ > match, and you'll read them again. > F > directory doesn't update expiry, and RMS has provision to not updateF > expiry - would be nice if search did too, as an option, for backward > compatibility. >g > Chris    Request noted !.  / Sounds like an easy one....I'll take a look....a   Guyf   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:10:20 +0000 - From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com>r# Subject: Re: request $ search/quiet * Message-ID: <4238303C.2030603@bigpond.com>   Guy Peleg was overheard to say:.? > "Chris Sharman" <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> wrote in messagei/ > news:d18ro2$4d$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...l > D >>What I'd really like, since Guy's doing such a sterling job on dcl< >>enhancements, is a /quiet or /notouch qualifier on search. >>F >>We use expiry dates to identify unused files, but search *.* touchesI >>them all - typically you're only interested in (some of) the ones whichf$ >>match, and you'll read them again. >>F >>directory doesn't update expiry, and RMS has provision to not updateF >>expiry - would be nice if search did too, as an option, for backward >>compatibility. >> >>Chris, >  >  > Request noted !g > 1 > Sounds like an easy one....I'll take a look....s >  > Guyd  > Whilst you're at it... ;-) it wouldn't be too difficult to add1 F$MATCH(candidate,pattern) as per STR$MATCH_WILD.M  7 And thanks for all the other great stuff you have done!6   Regards, Dave.- --  D David B Sneddon (dbs)  VMS Systems Programmer  dbsneddon@bigpond.comD Sneddo's quick guide ...     http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/D DBS freeware     http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 07:37:49 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: request $ search/quiet 3 Message-ID: <StTpSCWYu93H@eisner.encompasserve.org>r  f In article <d18ro2$4d$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writes:E > What I'd really like, since Guy's doing such a sterling job on dcl  < > enhancements, is a /quiet or /notouch qualifier on search. > G > We use expiry dates to identify unused files, but search *.* touches eJ > them all - typically you're only interested in (some of) the ones which $ > match, and you'll read them again. > G > directory doesn't update expiry, and RMS has provision to not update dG > expiry - would be nice if search did too, as an option, for backward   > compatibility.  ;    I can see your need, and I agree with maintaining upward G    compatability by making the default /noquiet (or /touch) but in the mG    meantime if I think files are worth searching, then I think I don't mH    want them to expire.  And lots of other utilities are potentially in     a similar situtation.  F    Of course, you can hack up gnu grep to provide a similar capabilityC    yourself.  You might even get there by just adding an RMS optionR    to the open() or fopen().   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:24:43 GMTg& From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com># Subject: Re: request $ search/quiete2 Message-ID: <%cYZd.1784$jC1.1316@news.cpqcorp.net>  I I like the suggestion, but really dislike the suggested "/quiet" command oI qualifier (and "/touch" doesn't help me much either).  When I first read  F the post, I though you wanted search to search the files but not tell  you what it found?!?!?  F Some like "/preserve=expiry" or some such would actually describe the 	 function.o   -- h John Reagan / HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project Leader0 Hewlett-Packard Companyo   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:14:26 +0000t- From: John Laird <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk>2# Subject: Re: request $ search/quieta8 Message-ID: <29jg31h5lviuko6t576c63ghnje12kvnno@4ax.com>  I On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:24:43 GMT, John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> wrote:b   >When I first read jG >the post, I though you wanted search to search the files but not tell   >you what it found?!?!?r   SEARCH/NOOUTPUT  ;-)   --  5 I think what you believe I said is not what I meant. 1   Mail john rather than nospam...f   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:01:23 +010001 From: Wilm Boerhout <wOLDboerhout@PAINTplanet.nl>t# Subject: Re: request $ search/quietR6 Message-ID: <42385854$0$31012$ba620dc5@nova.planet.nl>  B While we're talking semantics: I'm not inclined to pay someone to G $SEARCH for me. I am willing to pay someone to $FIND something for me. aF Find engines have more appeal to me than search engines, be it on the I 'net or otherwise. I have been tempted many times to put FIND :== SEARCH nF in my LOGIN.COM, but then its parameters would have to be reversed as  well. Guy? :-)   John Laird wrote: K > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:24:43 GMT, John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> wrote:s >  >  >>When I first read H >>the post, I though you wanted search to search the files but not tell  >>you what it found?!?!? >  >  > SEARCH/NOOUTPUT  ;-) >      -- ?
 Wilm Boerhoutd Zwolle, The Netherlands,   wilmOLD@PAINTboerhout.nl2    (remove OLD PAINT from this address before use)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:05:30 -0800t# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>S# Subject: Re: request $ search/quiets( Message-ID: <opsnqmzgn6zgicya@hyrrokkin>  3 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:01:23 +0100, Wilm Boerhout  S$ <wOLDboerhout@PAINTplanet.nl> wrote:  E > While we're talking semantics: I'm not inclined to pay someone to  pJ > $SEARCH for me. I am willing to pay someone to $FIND something for me.  I > Find engines have more appeal to me than search engines, be it on the  lL > 'net or otherwise. I have been tempted many times to put FIND :== SEARCH  I > in my LOGIN.COM, but then its parameters would have to be reversed as  m > well. Guy? :-) >t > John Laird wrote: G >> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:24:43 GMT, John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com>  e	 >> wrote:n >>J >>> When I first read the post, I though you wanted search to search the  - >>> files but not tell you what it found?!?!?d >>   SEARCH/NOOUTPUT  ;-)  >> > H GNU 'locate' is quite handy,  the databases could be directory.lis  Of   course,.J if a file had been created since the last update, it would not have been   found.        D LOCATE(1L)                                                          
 LOCATE(1L)   NAME8    locate - list files in databases that match a pattern   SYNOPSISE    locate [-d path] [--database=path] [--version] [--help] pattern...    DESCRIPTIONMJ    This manual page documents the GNU version of locate.  For each given   pat-K    tern, locate searches one or more databases of file names and displays  r theeI    file names that contain the pattern.  Patterns can contain shell-styleeM    metacharacters: `*', `?', and `[]'.  The metacharacters do not treat `/'  f orJ    `.'  specially.  Therefore, a pattern `foo*bar' can match a file name   thatK    contains `foo3/bar', and a pattern `*duck*' can match a file name that  c con-I    tains `lake/.ducky'.  Patterns that contain metacharacters should be  S quoted/    to protect them from expansion by the shell.'  J    If a pattern is a plain string - it contains no metacharacters - locateE    displays all file names in the database that contain that string   	 anywhere.5L    If a pattern does contain metacharacters, locate only displays file namesL    that match the pattern exactly.  As a result, patterns that contain meta-K    characters should usually begin with a `*', and will most often end with=L    one as well.  The exceptions are patterns that are intended to explicitly-    match the beginning or end of a file name.   K    The file name databases contain lists of files that were on the system  m whenL    the databases were last updated.  The system administrator can choose theL    file name of the default database, the frequency with which the databasesG    are updated, and the directories for which they contain entries; see     updatedb(1L).   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 07:31:14 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)s1 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - Remote CTRL-T 3 Message-ID: <sLB+gZ1a$yNF@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  c In article <RXG2CYKXe79l@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:oh > In article <1110909781.558587.57190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, kenneth.randell@verizon.net writes:G >>> VMS development is at least somewhat distributed, avoiding a singles  >>> point of geographic failure. >>  I >> Not to beat a dead horse, but other recent threads would indicate thatAF >> 'at least somewhat distributed' above is better rendered 'much more- >> distributed than a year ago at this time'.f > D > I am not sure about that.  Certainly more distributed than 5 years > ago.  B   But over a decade ago the VMS port to Alpha received significantE   contributions from DEC in Israel.  So VMS engineering has a historyo   of being distributed.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:47:35 -0500n- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@yeksavvy.com>s1 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - Remote CTRL-TyB Message-ID: <1110995245.7532c41647bf0a9e913296f709ae22ae@teranews>   Bob Koehler wrote:D >   But over a decade ago the VMS port to Alpha received significantG >   contributions from DEC in Israel.  So VMS engineering has a historyb >   of being distributed.     F And there is a surfer on the gold coast south of Brisbane in Australia= who works on TCPIP Services from his laptop on the beach :-)    B There was also a big centre in Reading england.  ( Ithink they are? responsible for POP and IMAP products as well  the LDAP stuff).t  H BTW, on the VMS documentation web site, there is a picture of Guy Peleg.A The alt tag says "Guy holding books on head". :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)h   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:55:46 -0800o( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>3 Subject: Re: Setting density of SDLT in VMS 7.2-2 ? / Message-ID: <BE5D6CD2.961E%roktsci@comcast.net>e  F On 3/15/05 7:07 PM, in article 4237A2EE.60538456@comcast.net, "David J, Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote:   > Roy Omond wrote: >> A >> Gentle colleagues,r >> j> >> I'm flabbergasted that this is becoming a nightmare for me. >> g: >> Alpha 4100, VMS 7.2-2, SDLT 320 drives.  No prospect of! >> anything other than VMS 7.2-2.a >> o< >> How on earth do I set the density down to 110/220 instead >> of the default 160/320 ?y >> i; >> Initialise, Mount etc. etc. didn't get the /DENSITY=SDLTf? >> and /DENSITY=SDLT320 qualifiers until sometime after VMS 7.3^= >> (definitely in VMS 7.3-2).  There's no front panel buttonsu< >> on the drives themselves like on the good old DLT drives. >> y@ >> The user handbook for the drive makes reference to a "DensityD >> Select Software CD", with the usual point-and-click instructions.I >> Why has this sort of simple thing become so unbelievably complicated ?P >> d& >> Any help would be much appreciated, > J > Some of the c.o.v. denizens seem to be quite adroit at manipulating SCSII > drives. Maybe one of them could help you send IO$DIAGNOSE commands to af > drive once it's MOUNTed.J This is certainly a possibility, You would need to have the SDLT320 device@ programmers manual so you can construct the proper SCSI command. > F > For what it's worth, I'm not even sure we're lucky that  V7.2-2 even( > supports the TK89 keyord for /DENSITY.H Specifying TK89 is what you want, but if the Driver does not know how toK communicate with the the SDLT to set this low density, VMS will just reportoI that the selection is invalid for this device. If you do a show device onoI this tape drive it will show a Generic SCSI tape, indicating that it does0" not know all of it's capabilities. > G > Out of curiosity, why is 110/220 support necessary? Some clients haves$ > drives that don't support 160/320?K I would imagine that he needs to write tapes to be sent to someone who only= has DLT7000.   Jeff   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:58:29 -0800 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>3 Subject: Re: Setting density of SDLT in VMS 7.2-2 ?e/ Message-ID: <BE5D6D75.961F%roktsci@comcast.net>   H On 3/15/05 8:08 PM, in article 113fbmspbot7mf6@corp.supernews.com, "Dave$ Froble" <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:   > Jeff Cameron wrote:eM >> On 3/15/05 8:17 AM, in article 39og9aF5tghmiU1@individual.net, "Roy Omond"o' >> <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> wrote:e >> p >> i >>> Gentle colleagues, >>> ? >>> I'm flabbergasted that this is becoming a nightmare for me.. >>> ; >>> Alpha 4100, VMS 7.2-2, SDLT 320 drives.  No prospect ofp" >>> anything other than VMS 7.2-2. >>> = >>> How on earth do I set the density down to 110/220 instead  >>> of the default 160/320 ? >>> < >>> Initialise, Mount etc. etc. didn't get the /DENSITY=SDLT@ >>> and /DENSITY=SDLT320 qualifiers until sometime after VMS 7.3> >>> (definitely in VMS 7.3-2).  There's no front panel buttons= >>> on the drives themselves like on the good old DLT drives.$ >>> A >>> The user handbook for the drive makes reference to a "DensitydE >>> Select Software CD", with the usual point-and-click instructions.0J >>> Why has this sort of simple thing become so unbelievably complicated ? >>> ' >>> Any help would be much appreciated,e >>> 
 >>> Roy Omondr >>> Blue Bubble Ltd. >> aI >> I don't believe you are going to have any luck. The Reasons being thatoL >> support for the SDLT and the SDLT320 tape drives was not written into theM >> drivers until Version 7.3, therefore the driver is physically incapable ofdO >> composing the SCSI command with the proper device codes to command the drive O >> to write tapes in the low density format. You are able to write tapes in theoN >> normal high density with and without compaction because that is the defaultL >> for the drives, and the device command for DEFAULT is the same across allO >> quantum DLT drives. You will still be able to read low density tapes becauseCE >> the drive can auto-detect the density written on the media itself.  >> h >> Jeff Camerone >> t > G > Just some wild ass guessing.  If the tape is initialized at the lower H > density, will the drive then write at that density?  If so, what aboutI > pre-initialized tapes?  A cheap Alpha running V7.3x, or an alternate OSr > root on the 4100?nJ Yes, this will work. I have done it, but if you don't have access to a way) of pre initializing, you are out of luck.d  A You can also append a previously written tape at the low density.x   Jeff   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:07:20 +0000p- From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com>u3 Subject: Re: Setting density of SDLT in VMS 7.2-2 ? , Message-ID: <39qph7F64gorfU1@individual.net>   Jeff Cameron wrote:   H > On 3/15/05 7:07 PM, in article 4237A2EE.60538456@comcast.net, "David J. > Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote: >n >>Roy Omond wrote: >> >>>Gentle colleagues,l >>>o> >>>I'm flabbergasted that this is becoming a nightmare for me. >>>k: >>>Alpha 4100, VMS 7.2-2, SDLT 320 drives.  No prospect of! >>>anything other than VMS 7.2-2.g >>>g< >>>How on earth do I set the density down to 110/220 instead >>>of the default 160/320 ?- >>> ; >>>Initialise, Mount etc. etc. didn't get the /DENSITY=SDLT ? >>>and /DENSITY=SDLT320 qualifiers until sometime after VMS 7.3e= >>>(definitely in VMS 7.3-2).  There's no front panel buttonss< >>>on the drives themselves like on the good old DLT drives. >>>-@ >>>The user handbook for the drive makes reference to a "DensityD >>>Select Software CD", with the usual point-and-click instructions.I >>>Why has this sort of simple thing become so unbelievably complicated ?  >>>d& >>>Any help would be much appreciated, >>J >>Some of the c.o.v. denizens seem to be quite adroit at manipulating SCSII >>drives. Maybe one of them could help you send IO$DIAGNOSE commands to ah >>drive once it's MOUNTed. > L > This is certainly a possibility, You would need to have the SDLT320 deviceB > programmers manual so you can construct the proper SCSI command.  B Thanks.  I might try this route.  Maybe Glenn Everhart has already done something similar ?  F >>For what it's worth, I'm not even sure we're lucky that  V7.2-2 even( >>supports the TK89 keyord for /DENSITY. > J > Specifying TK89 is what you want, but if the Driver does not know how toM > communicate with the the SDLT to set this low density, VMS will just report@K > that the selection is invalid for this device. If you do a show device onaK > this tape drive it will show a Generic SCSI tape, indicating that it doese# > not know all of its capabilities.e  @ I tried this.  But each density setting has its own unique valueB (see e.g. $MT3DEF in Starlet), and the request gets rejected with > "Invalid Density".  I've been playing around with SCSI_MODE in> SYS$ETC: to see if it might be possible from there, but so far without success.  G >>Out of curiosity, why is 110/220 support necessary? Some clients haveE$ >>drives that don't support 160/320? > M > I would imagine that he needs to write tapes to be sent to someone who onlyl > has DLT7000.  E Exactly.  The client is in Australia (we're in the UK), so we want totB be absolutely sure they can read the tapes we produce at this end.  @ I'm sort of disappointed by all of this, since the Release Notes= (or was it the New Features Manual) for VMS 7.2 allude to then@ capability of being able to specify *any* density that the drive> is capable of.  I'd have thought that this sort of stuff would8 be a good candidate for adding into SYS$USER_CONFIG.DAT.   Thanks to all who replied,  	 Roy Omonde Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 09:08:07 -0800 From: jordan@ccs4vms.com) Subject: Re: VAX OpenVMs Java - JVM? SDK?*C Message-ID: <1110992887.413740.219480@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>n  G According to 'Ask the Wizard' articles from several years ago, attempts ? were made to port Java to the VAX, but the requirement for IEEEpA floating point compatibility (which the VAX predates and does nottB directly support) caused such serious performance issues that theyD decided not to make it available.  I haven't heard of any changes to that situation in years...   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:51:55 -0000r1 From: "Lock Horsburgh" <lock@lohmacs.fsnet.co.uk>l% Subject: VAX OpenVMs Java - JVM? SDK?l/ Message-ID: <d19o7m$i7u$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>i  3 Does anybody know if there is/has been Java on VAX?w   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 12:06:20 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)s) Subject: Re: VAX OpenVMs Java - JVM? SDK? 3 Message-ID: <TE6JYKkSe6Z$@eisner.encompasserve.org>*  c In article <d19o7m$i7u$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Lock Horsburgh" <lock@lohmacs.fsnet.co.uk> writes: 5 > Does anybody know if there is/has been Java on VAX?:  E    Java requires the use of IEEE floating, which VAX doesn't do.  DECgA    looked at doing IEEE emulation for Java on VAX and found it so0    slow as to be unuseable.n      So there's no Java for VAX.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 10:35:28 -05007 From: "Gareth V. Williams" <graff@cfa0.cfa.harvard.edu>t" Subject: VMS SSH and X11 tunneling. Message-ID: <42385240@cfanews.cfa.harvard.edu>  A Can anyone confirm that the instructions in the SSH documentationsF on X11 Port Forwarding from an SSH for OpenVMS Client to a Non-SSH for OpenVMS Server actually work?   F Our Computation Facility recently disabled use of the "setenv DISPLAY"F command to open remote X windows.  This impacted our VMS group because9 we used the CF's U**x boxes to run acroread and Netscape.u  , When I try the instructions I hit a wall at:  7 $ SSH -"R"6003:localhost:6000 user@ubox.cfa.harvard.edu/  . As I log in I get the following error message:  I warning: Remote forward 6003:localhost:6000 failed.  Operation was deniedr   by the server.  +   Attempts to run, e.g., acoread then fail.s  F   Before I go and bug the CF to lift this restriction, I need to know:  9 a) if the instructions in the documentation actually works    andH b) if the forwarding of remote port 6000 to local port 6003 is encrypted    or unencrypted.  J   If the forwarding is over an unencrypted channel, then it won't be worthF it to even ask the CF to lift the restriction.  We will then be unableI to access remote X windows until the time (if ever) that VMS SSH supportsuI the standard SSH mechanism for X11 port forwarding (is this even planned/y possible?).d  
     Gareth   -- uH ------------------------------------------------------------------------H Gareth V. Williams, MS 18, 60 Garden Street, Cambridge, MA 02138, U.S.A.+ Associate Director, IAU Minor Planet Center H gwilliams@cfa.harvard.edu        http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/mpc.html7 OpenVMS & RISC OS: refined choices in operating systemsl   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:14:01 -0500 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> ! Subject: Re: Windows anti-spyware : Message-ID: <hqVZd.35825$Jd2.866665@news20.bellglobal.com>  / "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message  & news:qoGdnTpeAZXfmKrfRVn-1Q@igs.net... > Alan Greig wrote:e" >> david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote: >> >> >>>>> SpyBot search and destroyx >>>>>i3 >>>>> http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.htmlb >>>>% >>>> Again this is cleanup only IIRC.n >>>>C >>> You can immunize your system against infection with spybot S&D.  >>> There are 3 levels to this >>F >> I'll probably take a look at this again. Looks like it has improved! >> quite a bit from what you say.i >> >>>tG >>>> As an example take the spyware infested Kazaa. Installing it (as aFE >>>> test) required me to override several security (valid!) warningslC >>>> with MS Anti-Spyware. Telling it to clean-up later succesfullybH >>>> removed everything. Although not before I watched several megabytesG >>>> of data head out from my machine via the spyware apps even withoute >>>> Kazaa running.e >>>> >> >>> G >>> I'll probably give it a go at some point. However I have heard somes< >>> reports that it produces quite a lot of false positives. >>E >> Things sometimes come up as "under investigation". You do have thecE >> option of submitting your decision to override a recommendation toaA >> spynet if you believe the program to be safe. It's more "falseyG >> dubious" than "false positive" from what I've seen so far. Hopefully G >> this will improve with the Beta process. MS Anti-Spyware is based ons >> Giant Anti-Spyware btw. >w >  > www.webroot.com K > offers a 30-day trial of their real-time Spy Sweeper scanner. It's about h > $45p > otherwise. >eJ > I've been using it for about 3 weeks and it seems fine on a Win2000 box. >.I > When first installed it claimed to find a keylogger which AdAware (free,L > version) and Spybot both missed in scans done right before I installed SpyK > Sweeper. However I could not find any details about this keylogger in any2A > searches I did on the net to see some background info about it.g >- > --2 > OpenVMS - The never advertised operating system. >tL I have been using Ad-Aware (free version) for about 2 years now. Last month B I ran Ad-Aware to make sure my system was clean then downloaded a D (currently) free Beat product from Microsoft which discovered 4 new M problems. I don't know if MS will eventually charge for their product but my  1 free copy says it will only work up to 2005-07-31hF http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx  3 p.s. If they charge for it I'll go back to Ad-Awareo  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.9 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html o   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Mar 2005 07:30:02 -0800( From: greigaln@netscape.net (Alan Greig) Subject: Windows anti-spywareu= Message-ID: <d391276d.0503160730.634959c3@posting.google.com>    Bob Koehler wrote: > G >    I've been using Ad-Aware and Spybot ever since one of my coworkersaG >    used them to recover a "slow" PC.  When I told Windows to go aheadoK >    and download the MS tool, it never said anything about install or run.   F If I understand correctly that it failed to download and if running XPD Service Pack 2 you might be falling victim to the changes to defaultE security actions. XP Service Pack 2, by default, blocks needed popups E and installations even from Microsoft's own update site. If downloadsSE fail on SP2 it is always worth checking for miniscule lines under theTE browser toolbar referring to blocked popups, Active-X etc. Just clickrF them. Occasionally you have to go round this loop a couple of times to get everything.   2 ALso I believe the tool is Windows 2000 and later.   -- c
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