1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 21 Mar 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 159       Contents:: (",) Do You Want To Know For Sure You Are Going To Heaven?: (",) Do You Want To Know For Sure You Are Going To Heaven?! ANN: VTfm V2.3-8 is now available  Re: Audio on openVMS 8.2 Alpha Re: Audio on openVMS 8.2 Alpha Re: Memory for PWS500a Re: Memory for PWS500a Re: Memory for PWS500a Re: Memory for PWS500a% Purchase an IPF server and a VMS kit? ) Re: Purchase an IPF server and a VMS kit?  Re: Suggestion for FAQ5 Re: TCPIP: why can an MX record not point to a CNAME?  Re: VMS 8.2 for VAX  Re: [Announce] FreeVMS 0.1.3  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 13:54:04 -0800 From: Ron038548@yahoo.com C Subject: (",) Do You Want To Know For Sure You Are Going To Heaven? B Message-ID: <1111355644.304926.95600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  8 http://www.want-to-be-sure.blogspot.com << Click On Link   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 19:59:45 -0800 From: Ron038548@yahoo.com C Subject: (",) Do You Want To Know For Sure You Are Going To Heaven? B Message-ID: <1111377585.054219.82110@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  8 http://www.want-to-be-sure.blogspot.com << Click On Link   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:23:54 -0600 - From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com> * Subject: ANN: VTfm V2.3-8 is now available* Message-ID: <423E4C5A.5070703@goatley.com>  : Thanks to Vladimir Vershinin, VTfm V2.3-8 is now available8 from my FILESERV.  VTfm is a Norton Commander-style file' and directory manager for VT terminals.     % VTfm release 2.3-8 with new features:   ? * Environment file SYS$LOGIN:VTFM$ENVIRONMENT.DAT now added for 4    storing the following information when exit VTfm:  =    - directory panels orientation (left/right or top/bottom), 4    - current directory panel(left/right/top/bottom),)    - file size measure (blocks or bytes), >    - disk device and directory specification (for each panel),.    - filtering wildcard mask (for each panel),.    - selection wildcard mask (for each panel),0    - current file bar position (for each panel).   * Some minor bug fixes. 1 * User's Guide in PDF format included in the kit.   K So, when you run VTfm again your last working environment will be restored.    http://www.process.com/openvms/   4 ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/vtfm.zip9 http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/vtfm.zip   0 ftp://ftp.tmk.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/vtfm.zip5 http://www.tmk.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/vtfm.zip    Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ ; <goathunter@GOATLEY.COM>     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 16:45:09 -0800 From: CFAlveyIII@msn.com' Subject: Re: Audio on openVMS 8.2 Alpha C Message-ID: <1111365909.052666.190560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>     My apology for the foul language   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 16:39:18 -0800 From: CFAlveyIII@msn.com' Subject: Re: Audio on openVMS 8.2 Alpha C Message-ID: <1111365558.633298.303040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   D AH HELLO!!! GUYS...I JUST GOT THIS IN AN EMAIL. (see below) WHY AM IE GETTING IT, AND WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH ME? FOR THAT MATTER, WHO G ARE YOU AND WHY AM I RECIEVING IT? IN MY EMAIL, IT IS 1 GIANT LINK! DID . ONE OF YOU GUYS FUCK UP A PERFECTLY GOOD SPAM.    F <0x42 = SCSI_SUBCHANNEL (Read Subchannel)? Is that an audio extractionC thing? As in, the drive doesn't do that? The program gets the title  right, though. Could be worse.H ------------------------------------------------------------------------@ - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Steven M. Schweda (+1)D 651-699-9818 382 South Warwick Street sms@antinode-org Saint Paul MN? 55105-2547 Reply FredK Mar 14, 6:04 am show options Newsgroups: G comp.os.vms From: "FredK" fred.nos...@nospam.dec.com - Find messages by G this author Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:04:21 GMT Local: Mon, Mar 14 2005 G 6:04 am Subject: Re: Audio on openVMS 8.2 Alpha Reply | Reply to Author E | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse ? V8.2 needs new device drivers (data structure changes in system B structures), so you need a new version of MMOV (which is where theB driver comes from). I don't know when/if a new version of MMOV for. Alpha is being done. I'll check. "Keith Lewis"* spud_...@thundermaker.net wrote in messageB news:1110589408.191517.73530@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Reply@ FredK Mar 14, 8:26 am show options Newsgroups: comp.os.vms From:G "FredK" fred.nos...@nospam.dec.com - Find messages by this author Date: F Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:26:48 GMT Local: Mon, Mar 14 2005 8:26 am Subject:B Re: Audio on openVMS 8.2 Alpha Reply | Reply to Author | Forward |C Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse OK. A new B version of MMOV for Alpha V8.2 is being done. Don't know the exactF schedule. The drivers are updated along with some other changes/fixes.3 "FredK" fred.nos...@nospam.dec.com wrote in message F news:FRgZd.1591$IN7.436@news.cpqcorp.net... Is there any way to changeA the MAC address on a DE500B? Here's my situation. I have a single D critical application (a license manager called flexlm) running on anF old DEC 3000-500S whose I/O board crumped. Front panel countdown stopsA at F0. I would dearly love to migrate this application to a newer E Alpha, but the application queries the ethernet hardware for it's MAC B address to determine that it is running on the originally-licensedG node. It then serves licenses to 2 other applications on 8 other Alphas C which are still in use. The other applications are Research Systems  IDL,>    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:43:22 -0500  From: "DavidT" <david@hpaq.net>  Subject: Re: Memory for PWS500a 0 Message-ID: <113s935m32gvi31@news.supernews.com>  . well we sell the original compaq stuff cheap !   david    --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com     : "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:bMnqhRPuN8TQ@eisner.encompasserve.org... E > In article <1111280670.950280.248130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,  mcbill20@yahoo.com writes:H > > Hello all. I did a search of C.O.V. for info on memory for a PWS500a > > and only found one thread. > E > That makes sense, since this is a VMS newsgroup and the PSW500aU is  > required for VMS support.    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 19:52:57 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: Memory for PWS500a 3 Message-ID: <TsDbltpvVeZy@eisner.encompasserve.org>   R In article <113s935m32gvi31@news.supernews.com>, "DavidT" <david@hpaq.net> writes:0 > well we sell the original compaq stuff cheap !  % Just not in response to mail orders !   < > "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message/ > news:bMnqhRPuN8TQ@eisner.encompasserve.org... F >> In article <1111280670.950280.248130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > mcbill20@yahoo.com writes:I >> > Hello all. I did a search of C.O.V. for info on memory for a PWS500a  >> > and only found one thread.  >>F >> That makes sense, since this is a VMS newsgroup and the PSW500aU is >> required for VMS support.   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 19:08:07 -0800; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com>  Subject: Re: Memory for PWS500a C Message-ID: <1111374487.730930.266070@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Larry Kilgallen wrote:; > In article <113s935m32gvi31@news.supernews.com>, "DavidT"  <david@hpaq.net> writes:2 > > well we sell the original compaq stuff cheap ! > ' > Just not in response to mail orders !    Oh Lord, not again...    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 19:12:38 -0800; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com>  Subject: Re: Memory for PWS500a B Message-ID: <1111374758.296192.86200@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com wrote:  > Larry Kilgallen wrote:= > > In article <113s935m32gvi31@news.supernews.com>, "DavidT"  > <david@hpaq.net> writes:4 > > > well we sell the original compaq stuff cheap ! > > ) > > Just not in response to mail orders !  >  > Oh Lord, not again...    Hmmm.  Lost my ;)  *sigh*    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:37:10 +0100 - From: Didier Morandi <prenom.nom@freesurf.fr> . Subject: Purchase an IPF server and a VMS kit?4 Message-ID: <423ddef7$0$14211$626a14ce@news.free.fr>  I How can a poor lonesome consultant purchase an Itanic box and a good new  5 VMS kit with a few compilers? From HP? From TechData?    Thanks,    Nostalgic Didier --  ,        Didier MORANDI - Expert informaticien0   13 chemin du Gu, 1213 Petit-Lancy (GE) Suisse0 Tl. : +33(0)6 7983 6418 ~ www.didiermorandi.com0 OpenVMS - SAP ASAP implementation - SAP Security   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:45:50 -0500  From: "DavidT" <david@hpaq.net> 2 Subject: Re: Purchase an IPF server and a VMS kit?0 Message-ID: <113s97nna2tap90@news.supernews.com>  7 peut etre il vaut telephoner a island computers aux eu. G normalement nous avons des equipments beaucoup moins chers que les prix 	 listes et  typiquement ce sont en stock  ' quelle configurations considerez vous ?    salutations    david    --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com     : "Didier Morandi" <prenom.nom@freesurf.fr> wrote in message. news:423ddef7$0$14211$626a14ce@news.free.fr...J > How can a poor lonesome consultant purchase an Itanic box and a good new7 > VMS kit with a few compilers? From HP? From TechData?  > 	 > Thanks,  >  > Nostalgic Didier > --  . >        Didier MORANDI - Expert informaticien2 >   13 chemin du Gu, 1213 Petit-Lancy (GE) Suisse2 > Tl. : +33(0)6 7983 6418 ~ www.didiermorandi.com2 > OpenVMS - SAP ASAP implementation - SAP Security >    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 20:21:53 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Suggestion for FAQ B Message-ID: <1111378913.688064.31510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  
 AEF wrote: > Phil Mendelsohn wrote:2 > > hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote in message0 > news:<wRk_d.1882$nP2.1291@news.cpqcorp.net>...9 > > > In article <FZCaKMw6pN4e@eisner.encompasserve.org>, ? > koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: C > > > :In article <Xns961CE269809lithiumnospamgmxat@212.33.32.148>, * > Bernhard <lithium@nospam_gmx.at> writes: > > A > > >   Ayup.  I'll have to go read up on DCL, though, as I'm not  certain  > how  > [...] C > > He made it very clear that while I *could* think of logicals as E > > "synonyms," that was a naive near-miss, and that I should realize  > thatE > > their power came from being an abstraction layer, so that I would @ > > never have to refer to anything absolute.  That's why we use logicalsC > > instead of device names, etc.  The furthest your code gets from F > > portable is having to rewire the appropriate logicals table(s).  I    $ Well stated. And an excellent point.    @ > > think most readers on this list know this better than I, but perhaps 4 > > some FAQ readers might benefit from the verbage. > B > Well, you quoted Hoff's post, but you referenced mine by talking about B > "synonyms", so I assume you meant to quote mine. I used the word@ > synonyms only to emphasize the fact that logical names are notE > variables in the sense that you cannot perform arithmetic, logical, F > bit, ..., operations on them as you can with most other "variables".G > Yes, the word synonyms is an oversimplification of what logical names G > are. Logical names are logical names. But that's the problem when you C > use a single word. The only single word that accurately describes D > logical names is logical names (yeah, it's two words, but you know whatE > I mean!). I did elaborate on other features of logical names, but I F > suppose I should have stressed their role in making programs device-' > and file-independent more than I did.  >  > [...]     @ How about, instead of synonyms, pointers? Logical names are likeG pointers. This better includes the "direction" of iterative translation  and your "abstraction layer".   E So symbols are variables (in DCL), and logical names are pointers (in E the system) that point to generalized file-specs (including disks and @ directories), queues, mail addresses, or other logical names (or anything else I forgot).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:39:40 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@yeksavvy.com> > Subject: Re: TCPIP: why can an MX record not point to a CNAME?, Message-ID: <423E17B2.9473497B@yeksavvy.com>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: H > The corresponding RFC (1035 according to Dyndns.org; 974 is the actualF > MX RFC; I couldn't find this restriction in either in a QUICK glanceH > through them) says that hostnames used in MX records cannot be CNAMEs;  F This is a strongly worded should which predated the proper definitions( of SHOULD and MUST now standard in RFCs.  3 It is also unnecessary and considered bad practice.   7 The hostname assigned by your ISP should be irrelevant.   D If your ISP gives you ip address 1.2.3.4 , then you just update yourC dyndns entry to have ip address 1.2.3.4 and your MX doesn't need to - change if it points to your dyndns host name.      eg:   ! chocolate.dyndns.org 		A 	1.2.3.4 2 chocolate.dyndns.org		MX   10 chocolate.dyndns.org! 					MX   20 backup.chocolate.com       H So whenever you change the A record with a new IP, nothing else needs to be changed.   D Note that some mailer software does see your IP address as  a dialupA address and will consider your emails to be spam, unless all your 9 outgoing mail passes through your ISP's mail SMTP server.    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 13:29:18 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: VMS 8.2 for VAXC Message-ID: <1111354158.170850.250840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    John Smith wrote:  > JF Mezei wrote:  [...]  > > F > > When you consider the potential for Charon VAX to introduce VMS to the > > > masses, you'd think that VAX VMS would have some strategic	 advantage  > > to regrow VMS. >  > G > Tell me which prospective *new* VMS customer is deliberately going to  tell > their senior management, > G > "We want to purchase an application which works fine but is no longer  under B > development to run on an operating system which has half-hearted support B > from its vendor, that is for an obsolete computing architecture,
 which runs@ > on a hardware emulator provided by a third company, running on
 hardware from @ > a fourth company, all of which runs on top of that known virus	 incubator  > called Microsoft Windows."?     F C'mon, so many run so much on Windows and think it's great that sayingE "Microsoft Windows" may actually clinch the deal! Perhaps even if you , don't take out the "virus incubator" phrase!  ' C'mon**2, no one would put it that way.   - C'mon**3, hardware that runs on Windows? Huh?    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2005 22:42:36 +0100( From: Andreas Davour <ante@update.uu.se>% Subject: Re: [Announce] FreeVMS 0.1.3 4 Message-ID: <cs9u0n62dv7.fsf@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE>  = koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:   ` > In article <423975fa$0$6580$4d4ef98e@read.news.ch.uu.net>, Soterro <soterroatyahoocom> writes: > > JKB wrote:& > >> 	New FreeVMS release available at. > >> 	http://www.systella.fr/~bertrand/FreeVMS > > F > > Any reason for this project to not get some more exposure through  > > SourceForge? > 9 >    You have a SourceForge client and/or server for VMS?   A Sourceforge is a place to host your software project, not a tool.    /andreas   --  A A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. ' Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?  A: Top-posting. ; Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.159 ************************                                                                            