1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 24 Mar 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 165       Contents:P Re: "Access Denied" Error from client connecting to Pathworks Advanced Server 6.: (",) Do You Want To Know For Sure You Are Going To Heaven?P Announcing Availability of HP OpenVMS Migration Software for Alpha to Integrity $ Re: Carly's Way - article retracted?$ Re: Carly's Way - article retracted?$ Re: Carly's Way - article retracted?$ Re: Carly's Way - article retracted?$ Re: Carly's Way - article retracted?$ Re: Carly's Way - article retracted?$ Re: Carly's Way - article retracted?= hospedagem de sites - planos de hospedagem - hospedagem 07306 7 Re: How to load a shared img without defining a symbol? ? Re: Itanium Developer Workshop Schedule (rx1620 server for $2K) ? RE: Itanium Developer Workshop Schedule (rx1620 server for $2K) " Re: Remote queue on a linux serverP Re: TCPIP 5.4: obsolete information in HELP, what are new defaults (clusteralias5 Re: TCPIP: why can an MX record not point to a CNAME?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 23 Mar 2005 14:48:33 -0800' From: "DL Phillips" <whohe@whoever.com> Y Subject: Re: "Access Denied" Error from client connecting to Pathworks Advanced Server 6. C Message-ID: <1111618113.575901.315760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    ropegun1@yahoo.com wrote: @ > Both Alpha servers are set up as Primary Domain controllers inE > Pathworks but they do have different domain names.  I don't believe   G I think you need to either add the client computers to the new server's D domain or set up a trust between the two domains. See ADMIN HELP ADD COMPUTER    -Doug   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Mar 2005 16:10:36 -0800 From: Ron038653@yahoo.com C Subject: (",) Do You Want To Know For Sure You Are Going To Heaven? B Message-ID: <1111623036.758950.94370@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  8 http://www.want-to-be-sure.blogspot.com << Click On Link   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Mar 2005 11:11:47 -0800! From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com Y Subject: Announcing Availability of HP OpenVMS Migration Software for Alpha to Integrity  B Message-ID: <1111605107.008034.28250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  E Announcing Availability of HP OpenVMS Migration Software for Alpha to  Integrity Servers   F The production release of the software for translating Alpha images toE IA64 compatible images is now available for download from the OpenVMS F website.  HP OpenVMS Migration Software for Alpha to Integrity Servers@ (OMSAIS, aka "binary translator") software kit and documentation& are offered at no charge to customers.  G The website for the software and documentation is at the following url: ' HP OpenVMS systems - Migration Software   C For this initial release, the Translated Image Environment (TIE) is D also available on the website, to be installed separately on OpenVMSF Version 8.2 target systems.  In a future OpenVMS release, the TIE willE be included in the operating system.  The translator itself will also ? be distributed with operating system media for a future OpenVMS  release.  G Software support is available until May 31.  After that point, problems ) will be addressed on "best effort" basis.   A Any comments, issues, problems or questions should be sent to the * following account: omsais-feedback@hp.com.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:13:16 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> - Subject: Re: Carly's Way - article retracted? , Message-ID: <4241BFB2.7B4BBA97@teksavvy.com>   Kenneth Farmer wrote:  > URL?   > http://www.nyse.com/cgi-bin/ny_news?df=NY&r=S&sym=HPQ&sl=PR-03/22-10:11-1224|ON-03/22-09:12-363|BW-03/22-07:45-381|ON-03/21-17:25-507|BW-03/21-16:30-2138|&sp=1   C Since this URL is too long, and since that page usues terrible HTML G techniques, I have no problem quoting the article in its entirety here. H NYSE: if you want people to use/respect your site, learn  HTML properly.  0    MIT Publication Retracts 2 Stories On HP From    Web Site       3/22/05 9:12am   &    CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP)--A technology1    publication run by the Massachusetts Institute 0    of Technology has retracted two stories about0    Hewlett-Packard Co.'s former chief executive,(    Carly Fiorina, written by a freelance,    journalist and published on its Web site,0    saying it can't verify a source cited in both    articles.  +    Both articles, written by New York-based +    reporter Michelle Delio, were about last $    month's dismissal of Fiorina from    Hewlett-Packard.   $    Jason Pontin, Technology Review's0    editor-in-chief, ordered the articles removed1    on March 7 from the Web site after receiving a 0    complaint from HP officials. The stories were)    posted in Feb. 10 and March 4. Neither     appeared in a print version.   0    "HP gave me a phone call," Pontin said. "When-    I checked the sources, I could not in fact (    verify that the anonymous quotes were%    accurate. So we killed the story."   0    Each of the two stories, critical of Fiorina,1    featured quotes from an anonymous HP employee. /    In the first story, the source is identified *    as an HP engineer. In the second, he is.    described as a Hungarian immigrant with the0    initials G.S., and as "an electrical engineer,    who worked as a research scientist at the-    Hewlett-Packard Imaging Systems Laboratory /    starting in 1975 until he resigned in 2003."   *    HP spokesman Michael Burk said the firm.    launched an inquiry to find an employee who-    matched the description of Delio's source.   0    "No record was found of any person with those1    initials," said Burk, nor was the company able 0    to find an employee with a similar background    and work record.   ,    After killing the stories, Pontin said he0    contacted Delio and asked her to provide more.    information to Brad King, who edits the Web    site.  -    Pontin said that while Delio provided some /    biographical data, "she did not give him the .    phone number," so MIT was unable to talk to    the source.  0    Delio did provide the name of her source, and*    claimed he belonged to two professional*    organizations. However Pontin said both/    organizations said the man's name was not on     their membership list.   +    Pontin said he was not accusing Delio of *    fabrication, but said, "The stories are0    inaccurate. I do not vouch for them. I do not    stand by them."  .    Local news media attempts to contact Delio,)    who also has written for Wired.com and $    Information Age, for comment were    unsuccessful.  +    Founded in 1899, the 300,000-circulation +    Technology Review is undergoing it first -    makeover since 1998 in a move to establish 1    itself as a mass-market science and technology     publication.       (END) Dow Jones Newswires      03-22-05 0912ET   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:42:23 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> - Subject: Re: Carly's Way - article retracted? , Message-ID: <4241C685.E0647EB7@teksavvy.com>   DeanW wrote:E > Well, I don't know about HP Labs- but I know some folk who work for G > HP, and have reports that "ding-dong, the witch is dead!" was playing C > from computers throughout the building they work in, coupled with C > brief optimism until the realization that the new boss will quite % > likely be like the old boss set in.     G It isn't so much the top board  changes that one must fear, but changes H at mid and upper level management since there are key people there which  greatly influence a CEO and COO.  H For instance, if Winkler keeps on telling the board during presentationsG that Windows will ecviscerate Unix and that Linux will kill HP-UX, then F the board may believe the dangerous fool and de-emphasize HP-UX, whichH also means de-emphasize IA64. And that would have impact on VMS if Alpha" sales are truly hard-stopped soon.  A Althouh Marcello, to keep his job,  may not be able to stirr up a A campaign against HP to grow VMS, he is also not likely to start a G project to kill VMS and may instead make quiet and subtle moves to make F it harder to kill VMS. But change him and the replacement may not haveE any positive inclination towards VMS and the first negative report he B sees from some other manager who wants VMS gone might be enough to+ initiate the long term plans to retire VMS.   H Below Marcello, staff changes are harder to associate with top corporateC positions.  A person like Sue may have met Carly once or twice, but D Carly wouldn't really have much influence on Sue's job. But a personG like Carly may dictate X staff redundancies and perhaps point to VMS as > a non strategic asset where more redundancies can be achieved.  H Now, a person like Gorham might be in a grey area. If VMS revenus aren'tH rising according to internal expectations, he might be challenged to fixF it or leave. On the other hand, if Gorham had been fighting internallyC to give VMS greater marketing, and warn that without marketing, VMS H revenus would go down, warn that a premature annoucement of end of AlphaF server sales might precipitate customers migrating to IBM or Sun, thenG if poor revenus come, Gorhams can say "I told you so" and his ass might F be safe, and the person who refused his requests for marketing dollars6 might have to justify the decisions not to market VMS.  D Remember that there is more than a change of CEO going on at HP. Bad: financials usually result in rounds of  musical chairs andH indiscriminate layoffs. And if a top level maneger who may be criticisedG because his/her division isn't performing as expected may be tempted to D find some scapegoat a couple levels below her, change the person and= then buy him/herself some time to impress the new management.   C VMS has just launched on that unwanted IA64 thing. With the porting G complete, one could expect reduction in engineering for VMS, as was the ? case for HP-UX some time ago. This is especially true since the ) enterprise division isn't doing too well.   G When top management pass an edict of X headcount reductions, often they D are applied indiscriminatly. VMS lost 3 years of advancement becauseG engineers were busy doing that unwanted port to IA64. We need continued F engineering at VMS especially now that they are back at work improvingC VMS.  But they are probably likely targets of headcount reductions.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:20:32 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.com- Subject: Re: Carly's Way - article retracted? Q Message-ID: <OF6C58EDFA.AA231C26-ON85256FCD.007025C7-85256FCD.00702786@metso.com>    Prepare three envelopes....   H JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote on 03/23/2005 02:42:23 PM:   > DeanW wrote: [snip]   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:03:13 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> - Subject: Re: Carly's Way - article retracted? , Message-ID: <4241D971.9F6820A7@teksavvy.com>   norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  >  > Prepare three envelopes....     E Any news of HP CEO announcements ? Shouldn't then be getting ready to @ set a date for the press conference that announces the new CEO ?  E Considering that the board fired Carly in part because she refused to G have a COO, is it a given that HP will be seeking a COO as well ? Would H this be done at a later stage by the CEO to ensure the two work togetherH well, or would this be done by the board with both told to work together well or else ?  G If they announce just a CEO, with a COO named at some point later on, I C wonder what impact this would have on changes at HP ? Would the CEO G begin immediatly to implement changes, or would he/she focus on finding / the COO before starting to shake up the place ?     E My bet might be for an external CEO, but a COO promoted from within.    G In terms of VMS's standing within HP, would this be more the COO or the 6 CEO's responnsability to set the tone and priorities ?  ; I.E. who do we send the bottles of wine and chocolates to ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:26:04 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - Subject: Re: Carly's Way - article retracted? 0 Message-ID: <1143u5fese0dr22@corp.supernews.com>   JF Mezei wrote:  > DeanW wrote: > E >>Well, I don't know about HP Labs- but I know some folk who work for G >>HP, and have reports that "ding-dong, the witch is dead!" was playing C >>from computers throughout the building they work in, coupled with C >>brief optimism until the realization that the new boss will quite % >>likely be like the old boss set in.  >  >  > I > It isn't so much the top board  changes that one must fear, but changes J > at mid and upper level management since there are key people there which" > greatly influence a CEO and COO. > J > For instance, if Winkler keeps on telling the board during presentationsI > that Windows will ecviscerate Unix and that Linux will kill HP-UX, then H > the board may believe the dangerous fool and de-emphasize HP-UX, whichJ > also means de-emphasize IA64. And that would have impact on VMS if Alpha$ > sales are truly hard-stopped soon. > C > Althouh Marcello, to keep his job,  may not be able to stirr up a C > campaign against HP to grow VMS, he is also not likely to start a I > project to kill VMS and may instead make quiet and subtle moves to make H > it harder to kill VMS. But change him and the replacement may not haveG > any positive inclination towards VMS and the first negative report he D > sees from some other manager who wants VMS gone might be enough to- > initiate the long term plans to retire VMS.  > J > Below Marcello, staff changes are harder to associate with top corporateE > positions.  A person like Sue may have met Carly once or twice, but F > Carly wouldn't really have much influence on Sue's job. But a personI > like Carly may dictate X staff redundancies and perhaps point to VMS as @ > a non strategic asset where more redundancies can be achieved. > J > Now, a person like Gorham might be in a grey area. If VMS revenus aren'tJ > rising according to internal expectations, he might be challenged to fixH > it or leave. On the other hand, if Gorham had been fighting internallyE > to give VMS greater marketing, and warn that without marketing, VMS J > revenus would go down, warn that a premature annoucement of end of AlphaH > server sales might precipitate customers migrating to IBM or Sun, thenI > if poor revenus come, Gorhams can say "I told you so" and his ass might H > be safe, and the person who refused his requests for marketing dollars8 > might have to justify the decisions not to market VMS.  I Several days ago some people here were watching the movie RoboCop.  Part  C of the plot included a corporation with an older VP in charge of a  F project that wasn't going too well.  A younger executive jumps up and E informs the CEO that he has a contingency plan to save the day.  The  F older VP wasn't pleased with someone going 'over his head' and at one - point in anger said about the failing project   F "You've screwed up government sales which included $50 million a year G just in replacement parts and who gives a damn whether the thing works   or not."  , He also had a hit man take out the young VP.  A Don't be too sure about Gorham being able to say "I told you so".   G Am I the only one who sees a parallel to firms like HP wanting to sell  ; windoz and who gives a damn whether the thing works or not?    Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:28:50 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - Subject: Re: Carly's Way - article retracted? 0 Message-ID: <1143uaja2fjgfa8@corp.supernews.com>   JF Mezei wrote:   = > I.E. who do we send the bottles of wine and chocolates to ?   D I was thinking more in terms of a fish.  Or was that what Carly got?   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Mar 2005 20:20:46 -06004 From: kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow)- Subject: Re: Carly's Way - article retracted? 3 Message-ID: <Rh4H+1FzBieP@eisner.encompasserve.org>   p In article <OF6C58EDFA.AA231C26-ON85256FCD.007025C7-85256FCD.00702786@metso.com>, norm.raphael@metso.com writes: > Prepare three envelopes....    ROTFL...  1 	Bob Kaplow	NAR # 18L	TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" & 		>>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<K Kaplow Klips & Baffle:	http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf L     www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/    www.nira-rocketry.org    www.nar.org  K         "For as adamant as my country has been about civil liberties during I         peacetime, it has a long history ... of failing to preserve civil J         liberties when it perceived its national security threatened." -- 4         former Supreme Court Justice William Brennan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:47:41 -0000 9 From: "hospedagem de site " <host@hospedagem.dominio.com> F Subject: hospedagem de sites - planos de hospedagem - hospedagem 07306> Message-ID: <DDAC168FB5C09749AD96D27804CA35D1054769C4@SETUBAL>  J       Tudo sobre hospedagem de sites , planos profissionais , economicos eE       muitos outros , sua empresa na internet por apenas 2,99 ao ms!        O       http://www.hosting4u.com.br         host hospedagem site internet webpage    ------------------------------    Date: 23 Mar 2005 20:13:56 -0800 From: dooleys@snowy.net.au@ Subject: Re: How to load a shared img without defining a symbol?C Message-ID: <1111637636.718209.325810@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   G > The application I am developing (together with others) is based on an   F > OSGi implementation (in Java). It allows to plug in certain softwareF > components at runtime - without having to restart. Some of these areE > written in C/C++ and our customer does not want to port them. Thats  the D > reason we use JNI. Components come in the form of JAR Files, which also@ > contain the legacy native code (as dll under win, as SHR under	 OpenVMS). > > On install, we extract the native lib to the file system and/ > subsequently load it with System.loadLibrary. F > Under Win, this can be done more or less automatically, under VMS it> > would be necessary to define a symbolic name for the freshly	 installed  > lib. > D > 1. Either we do this by hand, but since our app is highly dynamic, this > would be unwanted.B > 2. Or we do the "DEFINE" via Java, which undermines the platformF > independent nature of our code. Apart from that I have no idea (yet) how F > to make OpenVMS calls from Java (Runtime.exec would not do I suppose1 > since this fires a call in a separate process).  > @ > What I am trying out now is to use System.load, which takes an absolute6 > file path as an argument and I'll see if this works.
 Could you not E $ define/sys/exec sys$share disk_user:[java_lib],sys$sysroot:[syslib] % (usual security considerations apply) @ or are you able to relink the images that call the shared image?< Then you could put the full path in the linker options file. Phil   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:36:29 GMT % From: Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com> H Subject: Re: Itanium Developer Workshop Schedule (rx1620 server for $2K)E Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0503231135030.22849@localhost.localdomain>    Thanks for the info, Kerry.   E I missed the session in Canada last fall.  How long should I hold my  - breath waiting for another Canadian location?      --    B Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o mA G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (866)438-2101 (voice) toll free! 6 Edmonton                         (780)438-9343 (voice)6                                    (780)437-3367 (FAX)3                                    http://gmcl.com/    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:41:14 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> H Subject: RE: Itanium Developer Workshop Schedule (rx1620 server for $2K)R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB595306@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----1 > From: Rob Brown [mailto:mylastname@gmcl.com]=20  > Sent: March 23, 2005 1:36 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com = > Subject: Re: Itanium Developer Workshop Schedule (rx1620=20  > server for $2K)  >=20 >=20 > Thanks for the info, Kerry.  >=20I > I missed the session in Canada last fall.  How long should I hold my=20 / > breath waiting for another Canadian location?  >=20 >=20 > --=20  >=20D > Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o mC > G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (866)438-2101 (voice) toll free! 8 > Edmonton                         (780)438-9343 (voice)8 >                                    (780)437-3367 (FAX)5 >                                    http://gmcl.com/  >=20 >=20  
 G'day Rob,  + Have email into powers that be to find out.   ) Will update this thread when I hear back.    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Mar 2005 21:25:11 -0800" From: mrs2001@libero.it (Maurizio)+ Subject: Re: Remote queue on a linux server = Message-ID: <1d5d30a9.0503232125.330ba1ed@posting.google.com>   b Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com> wrote in message news:<42418CB9.5984B718@hp.com>... > Maurizio wrote:  > >  > > HI,  > >  > > I need your help.  > > + > > I've a Digital PC with OpenVms V.7.1-2.  >          ^^^^^^^^^^^ >          Wazzat? > > M > > Some weeks ago, I'd to change my HD but my image backup wasn't very good.  > > C > > So, after restore, I'd some problems with a remote print queue. 7 > > I've a linux print server with an OCE 9400 Plotter.  > > & > > I defined print queue in this way: > > " > > $$$ init/queue oce8 /on=oce8:: > > @ > > But when I try to start my queue, this message is displayed: > >  > > $$$ start/queue oce8> > > %JBC-E-NOSUCHNODE, remote node is unknown or not reachable > > ) > > I ping this host (oce8) successfully:  > >  > > UCX> ping oce8! > > %UCX-I-LOOPACT, OCE8 is alive  > >  > > Please help me > >  > > Thanks,  > >  > > md'a > C > sounds like your queue should be defined using TCPIP$LPRSETUP (or * > UCX$LPRSETUP if you're still at UCX 4.x) >  > $ mc TCPIP$LPRSETUP 
 > enter 'add' , > enter your queue name (in your case: OCE8) > enter queue type as 'remote'   > ...  > etc. >  >  > Mike > --  G > --------------------------------------------------------------------- G > Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. A > Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* H > Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  D >   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"G > --------------------------------------------------------------------- ! > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  > Version: 3.1< > GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$8 > PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@! > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    Thanks for the answer.  0 I already found in UCX$LPRSETUP this definition:   OCE8|OCE8_00|oce8|OCE8:\,         :lf=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/OCE8.LOG:\         :lp=OCE8:\         :rm=172.20.101.132:\         :rp=oce9400:\ '         :sd=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/OCE8:    But it doesn't work.5 Everyway, someone told me that the problem is in NCP.  Is it true?   ) I defined node OCE8, but it doesn't loop.    Thanks,    md'a   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:21:22 GMT 3 From: "NoName@Nospam.com" <NoEmail@ThisAddress.com> Y Subject: Re: TCPIP 5.4: obsolete information in HELP, what are new defaults (clusteralias ; Message-ID: <C%s0e.9634$C7.8696@news-server.bigpond.net.au>    Hi Phillip,   I As you hope, the cluster alias functionality will continue to work after  I upgrading to V5.4.  No configuration changes are necessary.  So, you can  K explore failSAFE IP at your leisure and knowing that the old cluster alias  E functionality continues to work as it did in V5.3 and prior versions.   F For similar functionality to SHOW INTER/CLUSTER, you will need to use M "ifconfig -a".  This will display all the configured addresses. If there are  F standby addresses, then it will tell you where the address is active. I Unlike the IP Cluster Alias, failSAFE supports many instances of standby   addresses across a cluster.   J I understand your disappointment with SHOW INTER/CLUSTER.  Unfortunately, F that functionality is unlikely to ever return.  Basically, it was not H extensible, and can lead to very confusing output when multiple standby L addresses are configured, (which failSAFE encourages).  In fact, even prior H to failSAFE this problem existsed, it is just that very few users would 2 handcraft more than a single cluster impersonator.  3 >Surely it can't be that much work to integrate new I >functionality into the TCPIP commands?  Or do we have to bite the bullet ! >and pretend we are running unix?   L Actually, the work to continue to add functionality to the TCPIP CLI is far E from negligible.  We now have *many* diverse BSD-based utilities for  F managing various parts of TCPIP and the layered services.  It is very K difficult to justify the cost of wrapping a VMS-style CLI around otherwise  L functional (albeit - perhaps more cryptic) utilities that have been more or H less accepted as industry standard.  Keeping in mind, extending the CLI L takes someone's time away from developing additional features or addressing J problem reports, etc.  This is the usual issue of trade-offs here, and we A hope we are keeping most of our customers happy most of the time.    Matt.  OpenVMS TCP/IP Engineering.   M "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>  / wrote in message news:d1r7dm$o4h$1@online.de...  > TCPIP> sh interface/clust 8 > %TCPIP-E-INTEERROR, error processing interface requestK > -TCPIP-I-NOMORE, parameter or qualifier CLUSTER no longer supported; see  	 > the doc 3 > umentation for valid options and re-enter command ! > TCPIP> help  sh interface/clust  >  > SHOW >  >  INTERFACE > 
 >    /CLUSTER  >   >       Optional. Default: None. > H >       Displays information about the cluster of which the interface is >       a member.  > ' > It appears that HELP was not updated.  > J > I am using the TCPIP cluster alias feature now.  If I upgrade to 5.4 andF > otherwise don't reconfigure anything, will it continue to work as it5 > does now (as long as I don't SET or SHOW anything)?  > D > I know that failsafe IP can do more.  However, at first, after theF > upgrade, I would like the same functionality to be present as is the1 > case now.  What is the bare-bones equivalent of $ > SET|SHOW INTERFACE/CLUSTER in 5.4? > E > I actually rely on the cluster alias and the SHOW INTERFACE/CLUSTER I > command, so I need more or less exact equivalents so that my procedures ' > don't stop working after the upgrade.  > G > This seems to me to be a low quality of implementation.  In the past, H > the few times things have really changed, such as SET ACL etc, the oldF > syntax was supported for a while.  When moving to TCPIP 5.4, the oldB > syntax is gone before I've even had a chance to try out the new! > G > Also, it seems that some stuff can be done only with ifconfig and not C > with TCPIP> .  Surely it can't be that much work to integrate new J > functionality into the TCPIP commands?  Or do we have to bite the bullet" > and pretend we are running unix? >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:20:53 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> > Subject: Re: TCPIP: why can an MX record not point to a CNAME?, Message-ID: <424207BC.C5402434@teksavvy.com>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: E > One poster pointed out that in some circumstances a mail can bounce J > immediately if there is a connection problem, rather than being retried.  D Not a connection problem, a DNS problem. If the sending server can'tC resolve the MX or host name, it hard bounces. If it can resolve but A cannot connect, it then requeues the message to be retried later.   @ Some mailers may have some smarts to requeue a message whose DSN6 translation failed. BUT VMS doesn't. (TCPIP Services).   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.165 ************************