1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 28 Mar 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 173       Contents: Re: /include/nocopy  Re: /include/nocopy  About "nobody" the kook of rta Re: History of the VMS shark# Re: Question on DCL f<dollar>string # Re: Question on DCL f<dollar>string  Re: reading RS232 port Re: reading RS232 port Re: reading RS232 port Re: VMS Torrents Re: VMS Torrents Re: VMS Torrents [ANN] Jetty for OpenVMS   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:51:19 -0800 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com> Subject: Re: /include/nocopy+ Message-ID: <d27uvn$gaj$1@news01.intel.com>    Ken Fairfield wrote:  ; I messed up the following paragraph a bit.  It should read:   D >    NOW COMES THE PROBLEM: B boots and mounts DSA0.  If it _allows_> > its local member to be copied into DSA0, the more up-to-date  > version will be overwritten.  A                                   However, by using /NoCopy along > with specifying only A's member in the MOUNT command (assuming A comes before B),@                      it will (still) have mounted an out-of-date@ > DSA0 (as did A), but the up-to-date data on B's member will be? > preserved until the system manager can decide how to procede.     ;     As to some other comments, yes, the /NoCopy is the most 9 important item here.  Since /NoInclude is the default, in ; order to get all members mounted while specifying only one,  you need the /Include.  A     AEF implies that /NoAssist with all members specified has the @ same effect as specifying single member with /Include.  That may; well be the case, but I can't couch for it since I've never 
 tested it.   	-Ken  --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Mar 2005 21:48:17 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: /include/nocopyC Message-ID: <1111988897.468051.164040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    Ken Fairfield wrote: > Ken Fairfield wrote: > = > I messed up the following paragraph a bit.  It should read:  > F > >    NOW COMES THE PROBLEM: B boots and mounts DSA0.  If it _allows_@ > > its local member to be copied into DSA0, the more up-to-date  > > version will be overwritten.C >                                   However, by using /NoCopy along @ > with specifying only A's member in the MOUNT command (assuming > A comes before B),B >                      it will (still) have mounted an out-of-dateB > > DSA0 (as did A), but the up-to-date data on B's member will beA > > preserved until the system manager can decide how to procede.     D Do you mean each node will have its own DSA0? If A's DSA0 is mounted? clusterwide, doesn't that preclude B from mounting its own DSA0 F clusterwide, in which case you have only one disk as a memeber of only	 one DSA0?   F I think there is a guideline that shadow unit numbers should be uniqueG clusterwide, and that helps keep you out of trouble. I'll have to check D the manual, but it's getting late and I've spent enough time on this already!    = >     As to some other comments, yes, the /NoCopy is the most ; > important item here.  Since /NoInclude is the default, in = > order to get all members mounted while specifying only one,  > you need the /Include. > C >     AEF implies that /NoAssist with all members specified has the B > same effect as specifying single member with /Include.  That may= > well be the case, but I can't couch for it since I've never  > tested it.    B No, that is not what I meant. Assume a single standalone node with  F $ MOUNT/SYS DSA0 /SHAD=(DKA100, DKA200, DKA300) /NOASSIST volume-label  G in the startup. Start the system. You get a shadow set with three disks B (assume its last state prior to the previous shutdown was one withC three disks as members). Remove one disk and reboot the system. You ; should get a re-created shadow set with all three disks. My C understanding is that if you had /INCLUDE instead of /NOASSIST then E upon rebooting you would only have two disks in the re-created shadow C set -- the two that were still in the shadow set after you manually @ removed one member -- regardless of which of the three disks areE specified in the MOUNT/INCLUDE command. I'll have to test this when I 9 get a chance, but I cannot test what happens on clusters.   A I mentioned /NOASSIST because Phillip was worried about the MOUNT D command failing if not all disks specified in the MOUNT command were3 present. But that is exactly what /NOASSIST is for!   . So in summary, my understanding is as follows:  1 In your startup command procedure MOUNT commands:   D If you don't want to risk newer data being overwritten, add /NOCOPY.  F If you want the MOUNT command to succeed even if some of the specified disks are down, add /NOASSIST.  F If you want the shadow set to have the same disks as members as it didC when it was last dissolved, add /INCLUDE with as many as all of the G disks specified (I still have to test this one as for what happens with 2 different subsets of disks specified for /SHADOW).  ? As for clusters, I think this should all work okay, but I don't $ currently have the time to check it.   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Mar 2005 06:06:55 -0000( From: about@thekook.net (About the kook)' Subject: About "nobody" the kook of rta 3 Message-ID: <SH7XY9OZ38439.5881365741@reece.net.au>    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=bush&safe=images&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_uauthors=nobody&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en    http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=usa&safe=images&as_ugroup=rec.travel.air&as_uauthors=nobody&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2005&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en   FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS    About JF MEZEI  @ The "nobody" troll of rec.travel.air and "John Doe" troll of the sci.space.* newsgroups.    (Rev. Jan. 23, 2005)   Written by:    Darrell Larose 121 Northwestern Ave Ottawa, ON K1Y 0M1 (613) 725-0245 cota348@rogers.com ad607@FreeNet.Carleton.CA    1.  Who is JF Mezei?  C Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever C hit rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also 4 one of the longest running trolls in usenet history.  C ***WARNING:  JF MEZEI IS A ROGUE CANCELLER.  HE FORGES THE NAME AND C E-MAIL ADDRESS OF USENET POSTERS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND CANCELS  THEIR MESSAGES.***  E If you participate in the same newsgroups he does, you should monitor E the control.cancel newsgroup.  If you find that he has cancelled your < messages, forward a copies of them to abuse@teksavvy.com and+ abuse@astraweb.com and abuse@teranews.com .   ! Also http://www.usenetabuse.com .   " 2.  How long has he been trolling?   For well over a decade.    3.  Where does he live?    Montreal, Quebec, Canada   Jean-Francois Mezei  86 Harwood Gate  Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3  (514) 992-0474 (514) 695-8259  9 His current e-mail addresses are jfmezei@teksavvy.com and  jfmezei@vaxination.ca .   ) His website is http://www.vaxination.ca .   * 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll?  C His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades D your newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, dayF in and day out, every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He@ does not listen to pleas to stop, he does not listen to anything4 anyone tells him, he does not pay attention when theA misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just goes C right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his F ears closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"    5.  What does he troll about?   F His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  HeB hates the USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn itC into a USA-bashing fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start  making lewd posts.  $ 6.  What does he hate about the USA?  E Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have E a visceral hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a B happier, better, more successful version of their country and they> can't stand it.  Some of JF's favorite troll bait is "the BushC regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of evil", "Americans are B brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.  # 7.  What about his sexual trolling?   E Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre. > Among his favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women'sA genitalia, sex toys, circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of   course) ... the list is endless.   8.  Circumcision???   F Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes< to insert circumcision into his trolling every now and then.C Apparently, JF was traumatized as a child because his parents, poor B Hungarian immigrants to Canada, left him uncircumcised when he wasB born, as is the custom in most of the world.  Growing up in Canada@ where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time, he was? psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As soon as he could he @ arranged to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades ofE circumcision proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a @ free willy.  His main argument is how much better he was able toB masturbate after getting circumcised without that "pesky foreskin"F getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has made it his mission in' life to spread the circumcision gospel.   @ 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky.   @ Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among theE subjects dear to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, E especially little boy's foreskins (and how tight they are) and little @ girls' hymens.  He is also a tireless activist and advocate thatC children should be taught to masturbate early on so that they don't , grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".  E He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their C little boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, F proper movement, and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.A Utopia for JF would be a world full of parents manipulating their  little boys' penises.   @ 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the+ minute!  Are you sure about all this stuff?   D Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a' decade full of Mezei trolling in there.   C 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the  time like all trolls do?  B Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling aliases.   A 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he  work?   E Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a C grown man who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and @ trolls the newsgroups all night.  In his free time when he isn'tF trolling he likes to ride his bike down to Dorval Airport and race the# planes down the runway in his bike.   9 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?   D Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he neverA got past the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor F (i.e. "pull my finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.  C 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about  them, is that true?   @ Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in theB locker room.  He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has= seen in locker rooms over the years, especially his unnatural F obsession with foreskins.  He stalks the men in locker rooms trying toB measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is left if theyF have been circumcised.  He gets extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.  @ 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insane asylum!  D Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin; foil hat world where others are out to get him.  The key to F understanding JF is that he sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the worldD is out to get him, especially the USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.  D What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian railD system was "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut,D spotting trains, writing down their numbers and chasing them down atB the train yard like a good freak.  Then he turned his attention toC aviation.  Major events that made him fall head first deep into the C abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines and their subsequent F takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil).  So paranoid is he thatE when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees D went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to coverE up the Air Canada markings.  He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of ; the crash investigation.  He has never recovered from this.   6 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!  F His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to someE ancient, arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken A seriously for decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and C social dropouts who share his psychological traumas, crying for the 1 good old vax days of yore.  It's really pathetic!   ! 17.  Where else does he hang out?   @ can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geekyD computer groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster heB invaded the sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, andF trolled it relentlessly with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crapE he's so famous for.  But they ran him off that group and he had to go D crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail between his legs, licking his wounds.   A 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and  doesn't troll.  F Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so> he slips in troll bait every now and then, but by and large heA respects comp.os.vms, and, more importantly, he tries to hide his A trolling activities from them so they won't find out what a major  netkook he is.  F 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho he is!  E Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while F you're at it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido? too.  And to alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and  news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.  4 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address?  D Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:   * abuse@teksavvy.com , dnsadmin@teksavvy.com& abuse@teranews.com, abuse@astraweb.com   also http://www.usenetabuse.com   7 You can also call directly, troll free, 1-877-779-1575.    TekSavvy Solutions Inc.  330 Richmond St., Suite 205  Chatham, ON, Canada  N7M 1P7   D And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups,C email it to people, you may host it at your own website, send it to D newspapers and magazines that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.      *** APPENDIX ***  @ List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over theF years.  This is only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.   jfmezei@teksavvy.com jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com jfmezei@istop.com  jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com  jfmezei@videotron.ca jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca  nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca  "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]   nobody <nobody@nobody.com> nobody <nobody@nobody.net> nobody <nobody@nobody.org> nobody <nobody@nobody.info>  nobody <nobody@nobody.int> nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>  nobody <nobody@null.dev># Janice Staples <jstaples@noaol.com> ) Lorenna Bobbit <lbobbit@ginsu_knives.com> ' Lando Calrisian <Lcalrisian@empire.org>  muklak <muklak@eskimo.net> Sheep skin <sheep@station.au> # snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree> ) Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org> & Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>$ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>  Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> " Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com> ' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com> " Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> ( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> % Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>  Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org> ! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org> # Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>   Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>  Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org> $ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org> ! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>   Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org> % Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org> $ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com> & Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org> % Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org> & Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org> ( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil> ' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org> % Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org> $ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum> ( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org> " Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org> & Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> ) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org> ' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> " Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> * Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>( Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org> * Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>  Q <queue@continuum.net>  Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>* Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>) John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>   ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:19:50 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> % Subject: Re: History of the VMS shark B Message-ID: <1111951191.9f9bb2d0be66f0dbe4323daebbdfb2ad@teranews>   Michael Unger wrote:+ >> That's where I found the "Original Tux": 8 > <http://www.linux.org/info/images/officialpenguin.gif> > 	 > > [...]  > H > There are many links on that site but I don't remember if a 3D version > is mentioned.   A Thanks for the link. There is a vector (postscript) version of it D available. I might be able to transform it giving it perspective. It% would still be a flat penguin though.   G I had assumed that the penguin had a 3d source since the image has many C 3d characteistics in terms of shading etc. But it looks like it was  drawn as a flat image.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:30:20 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.com, Subject: Re: Question on DCL f<dollar>stringQ Message-ID: <OF0AC3F43B.E4F1EAE5-ON85256FD1.000E66E4-85256FD2.0008717B@metso.com>   + This is a multipart message in MIME format. " --=_alternative 0008717485256FD2_=, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"  9 Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote on 03/26/2005 07:35:20 PM:    > norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  > > J > > All responses so far add nicely to the literature and I found them at  > > worst interesting,8 > > but they do not answer my questions about f$integer,4 > > just in case someone would like to address them. > >  > 1 > I suppose you mean f$string, and not f$integer.   / Yes, I did.  Appologies for getting that worgn.   H As I suspected and you have confirmed, the original coder either simply  got H lucky or meant to use f$string [got it right that time] another way and H messed up but got the desired result anyway.  I'm going to change it to C one of the suggested simpler-to-parse-for-the-next-person versions.  Thanks to you all.  B By the way, if I use the string "02" and F$Fao("!2ZL", then I get    $ last="02"  $ last =  F$Fao("!2ZL",last) $ sho sym last
   LAST = "**"    and if  
 $ last = 2 $ last =  F$Fao("!AS",last) < %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual  address=000000000003& 8248, PC=0000000000110001, PS=7FFABF90 $   I which I know is feeding it an integer and telling it to display an ASCII   string   but is an ACCVIO here a bug?      > C > The answer is that F$String doesn't do anything in this example.   F$String is F > suppose to convert numeric expressions to ASCII strings, however in 
 > this piece  K > of coding there is only ASCII as input. The last symbol has already been    F > translated to ASCII before F$String can convert it. So F$String only
 > gets ASCII  D > as input, and doesn't do any conversion or anything else. In fact  > because there B > is ASCII in the argument, F$String will never do any conversion. >  > Look at this example:  >  > $ last = "last"  > $ last = F$String("0"'last') > $ sho symbol last  >    LAST = "0LAST"  > $  > ? > You can get the same result by omitting the F$String lexical:  >  > $ last = "last"  > $ last = "0"'last' > $ sho symb last  >    LAST = "0LAST"  > $  > < > This would have been correct coding, although a bit silly: > 
 > $ last=2 > $ last = "0" + F$String(last)  > $ sho symbol last  >    LAST = "02" > $  > ( > You can get the same result with this: >  > $ last = 2 > $ last = "0" + "''last'" > $ sho symbol last  >    LAST = "02" > $  >  > Or with your example:  >  > $ last = 2 > $ last = "0''last'"  > $ sho symbol last  >    LAST = "02" > $  > ) > This is what F$String is suppose to do:  > 
 > $ first = 1  > $ last = 1' > $ last = "0" + F$String(first + last)  > $ sho symbol last  >    LAST = "02" > $  >  > Or even better this: > 
 > $ first = 1 
 > $ last = 10 ' > $ last = "0" + F$String(first - last)  > $ sho symbol last  >    LAST = "0-9"  > $  >   " --=_alternative 0008717485256FD2_=+ Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"      <br>G <br><font size=2><tt>Dirk Munk &lt;munk@home.nl&gt; wrote on 03/26/2005  07:35:20 PM:<br> <br>& &gt; norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; <br>G &gt; &gt; All responses so far add nicely to the literature and I found  them at <br>  &gt; &gt; worst interesting,<br>B &gt; &gt; but they do not answer my questions about f$integer,<br>> &gt; &gt; just in case someone would like to address them.<br> &gt; &gt; <br>	 &gt; <br> @ &gt; I suppose you mean f$string, and not f$integer.</tt></font> <br>U <br><font size=2><tt>Yes, I did. &nbsp;Appologies for getting that worgn.</tt></font>  <br>H <br><font size=2><tt>As I suspected and you have confirmed, the original$ coder either simply got </tt></font>F <br><font size=2><tt>lucky or meant to use f$string [got it right that" time] another way and </tt></font>K <br><font size=2><tt>messed up but got the desired result anyway. &nbsp;I'm " going to change it to </tt></font>N <br><font size=2><tt>one of the suggested simpler-to-parse-for-the-next-person versions.</tt></font> 3 <br><font size=2><tt>Thanks to you all.</tt></font>  <br>G <br><font size=2><tt>By the way, if I use the string &quot;02&quot; and / F$Fao(&quot;!2ZL&quot;, then I get </tt></font>  <br>6 <br><font size=2><tt>$ last=&quot;02&quot;</tt></font>L <br><font size=2><tt>$ last = &nbsp;F$Fao(&quot;!2ZL&quot;,last)</tt></font>/ <br><font size=2><tt>$ sho sym last</tt></font> = <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp; LAST = &quot;**&quot;</tt></font>  <br>( <br><font size=2><tt>and if </tt></font>+ <br><font size=2><tt>$ last = 2</tt></font> K <br><font size=2><tt>$ last = &nbsp;F$Fao(&quot;!AS&quot;,last)</tt></font> H <br><font size=2><tt>%SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00,( virtual address=000000000003</tt></font>G <br><font size=2><tt>8248, PC=0000000000110001, PS=7FFABF90</tt></font> " <br><font size=2><tt>$</tt></font> <br>F <br><font size=2><tt>which I know is feeding it an integer and telling* it to display an ASCII string </tt></font>= <br><font size=2><tt>but is an ACCVIO here a bug?</tt></font> ' <br><font size=2><tt>&nbsp;</tt></font>  <br><font size=2><tt><br> 	 &gt; <br> N &gt; The answer is that F$String doesn't do anything in this example. F$String is <br> H &gt; suppose to convert numeric expressions to ASCII strings, however in <br> &gt; this piece <br>H &gt; of coding there is only ASCII as input. The last symbol has already	 been <br> M &gt; translated to ASCII before F$String can convert it. So F$String only<br>  &gt; gets ASCII <br>F &gt; as input, and doesn't do any conversion or anything else. In fact <br> &gt; because there <br> I &gt; is ASCII in the argument, F$String will never do any conversion.<br> 	 &gt; <br>  &gt; Look at this example:<br>	 &gt; <br> " &gt; $ last = &quot;last&quot;<br>/ &gt; $ last = F$String(&quot;0&quot;'last')<br>  &gt; $ sho symbol last<br>. &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;LAST = &quot;0LAST&quot;<br>
 &gt; $<br>	 &gt; <br> F &gt; You can get the same result by omitting the F$String lexical:<br>	 &gt; <br> " &gt; $ last = &quot;last&quot;<br>% &gt; $ last = &quot;0&quot;'last'<br>  &gt; $ sho symb last<br>. &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;LAST = &quot;0LAST&quot;<br>
 &gt; $<br>	 &gt; <br> C &gt; This would have been correct coding, although a bit silly:<br> 	 &gt; <br>  &gt; $ last=2<br> 0 &gt; $ last = &quot;0&quot; + F$String(last)<br> &gt; $ sho symbol last<br>+ &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;LAST = &quot;02&quot;<br> 
 &gt; $<br>	 &gt; <br> / &gt; You can get the same result with this:<br> 	 &gt; <br>  &gt; $ last = 2<br> 5 &gt; $ last = &quot;0&quot; + &quot;''last'&quot;<br>  &gt; $ sho symbol last<br>+ &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;LAST = &quot;02&quot;<br> 
 &gt; $<br>	 &gt; <br>  &gt; Or with your example:<br>	 &gt; <br>  &gt; $ last = 2<br> & &gt; $ last = &quot;0''last'&quot;<br> &gt; $ sho symbol last<br>+ &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;LAST = &quot;02&quot;<br> 
 &gt; $<br>	 &gt; <br> 0 &gt; This is what F$String is suppose to do:<br>	 &gt; <br>  &gt; $ first = 1<br> &gt; $ last = 1<br> 8 &gt; $ last = &quot;0&quot; + F$String(first + last)<br> &gt; $ sho symbol last<br>+ &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;LAST = &quot;02&quot;<br> 
 &gt; $<br>	 &gt; <br>  &gt; Or even better this:<br> 	 &gt; <br>  &gt; $ first = 1<br> &gt; $ last = 10<br>8 &gt; $ last = &quot;0&quot; + F$String(first - last)<br> &gt; $ sho symbol last<br>, &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;LAST = &quot;0-9&quot;<br>
 &gt; $<br>	 &gt; <br>  </tt></font>$ --=_alternative 0008717485256FD2_=--   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:00:53 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> , Subject: Re: Question on DCL f<dollar>stringB Message-ID: <1111975227.66930bd9d4d118837ec60cbe0a52e284@teranews>  L Mr Raphael, you may wish to look into the configuration of your news client.  G Your recent messages have been sent as mime attachement, one text/plain G copy and one html copy. (eg: you are sending about 3 times as much data E as needed (two copies, with the second copy bloated by HTML), and the $ html format uses a very small font).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:13:19 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: reading RS232 port B Message-ID: <1111950799.6170ce0d7c46d519189901db7eeee151@teranews>  
 Pat wrote:F > I've tried to replace the WRITEVBLK by the READVBLK  in the SYS$QIOW% > command but it don't seems to work. 1 > Can somebody give me the correct way to do this   C Reading data from a serial port requires you tell VMS when the read " completes with the $QIO mechanism.  @ The IO USers's manual has a good section on the terminal driver.  @ You can have the IO complete after a certain inactivity timeout.  B You can have the IO complete after reception of certain charactersF ("terminators") and you supply a mask to describe which characters are to be considere terkinators),   E or you can read a fixed number of characters at a time, but this will / wait indefinitely f thsoe characters to arrive.   < The beauty is that in manu cases, you can combine the above.  G What you can do is to read one character with no timeout, and once that F IO completes, read a large buffer with a timeout of say 1 second. ThisD way, when there is activity on the port, it will complete the fist 1E character IO and the second IO will capture the rest until the remote  device stops sending.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:53:11 -0800 * From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> Subject: Re: reading RS232 port 2 Message-ID: <46Gdna6qZJ-1ktrfRVn-tg@mpowercom.net>  4 "Pat" <patrick.ronsmans@skynet.be> wrote in message 7 news:54f4941c.0503270123.2c49a85d@posting.google.com... H > I'm using a microVax 4000 under VMS and I'm trying to read the data on, > a RS232 port (TX) using a Fortran program.H > I already can write data on tis port using the SYS$QIOW system service > but I can't read the port .  > J If your serial port is on a DECserver be aware you must write to the port F before you can read from it.  Be sure to send out a NUL or some other  character first.   Jack Peacock     ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:50:55 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: reading RS232 port B Message-ID: <1111956645.c1362b82ea3378c1045a400bb6b79e0d@teranews>   Jack Peacock wrote: K > If your serial port is on a DECserver be aware you must write to the port G > before you can read from it.  Be sure to send out a NUL or some other  > character first.    E Does this apply to application ports , or just to scenarios where the D application connects to the decserver port instead of the opposite ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:02:37 +0200 , From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> Subject: Re: VMS Torrents , Message-ID: <3aolhfF6cnappU1@individual.net>  2 "issinoho" <issinoho@gmail.com> schreef in bericht+ news:1111951832.2277.0@ersa.uk.clara.net...  > Just a thought...  > I > If one was to establish a BitTorrent tracker whereby VMS software could > > be exchanged would this constitute anything naughty/illegal? > C > Hobbyists have the devils job getting hold of CONDIST versions of I > software which they are entitled to use by ownership of the appropriate J > PAK, not to mention upgrades to VMS itself; it makes sense that our moreH > fortunate colleagues who have access to past & present versions of the+ > software make them available for sharing.  > I > If I'm shot down in flames for this then fair enough, however I for one ? > would be happy to be involved in the hosting & infrastructure J > arrangements. Perhaps a small Paypal based contribution from subscribers  > could fund any hosting issues. > I > How would HP react to such a system? I'd be grateful for informed input  > on this matter.   K HP has been ignoring VMS since it acquired the product, so my best guess is  thatJ a public server wouldn't bother them. I wouldn't mind running a VMS server withE CONDIST and FREEWARE CD's. The trouble is that my own sets are pretty L ancient as well. Assuming of course that HP follows DEC's practice since VMS V5.0, @ i.e. if you've got the license then the kit is freely available.   Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:49:25 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>e Subject: Re: VMS TorrentseB Message-ID: <1111956554.3ebc9ffc00aa8be0b9554053af1e608d@teranews>   issinoho wrote:uI > If one was to establish a BitTorrent tracker whereby VMS software couldo> > be exchanged would this constitute anything naughty/illegal?  G Considering that few VMS machines have Kaazaa or BitTorrent or whatever-7 flavour du-jour there is, it may not serve many people.   H My *feeling* is that HP would be far more open to a scenario where thereC is some form of control. similar to obtaining hobbyist licences, as 9 opposed to some blind downloading by anyone and everyone.r  G Does anyone know who is in charge of the Hobbyist programme at HP now ?n   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Mar 2005 20:03:56 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)e Subject: Re: VMS Torrents 3 Message-ID: <mfmA+IHuZLxM@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  [ In article <3aolhfF6cnappU1@individual.net>, "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> writes:  > 4 > "issinoho" <issinoho@gmail.com> schreef in bericht- > news:1111951832.2277.0@ersa.uk.clara.net...l  J >> How would HP react to such a system? I'd be grateful for informed input >> on this matter. > M > HP has been ignoring VMS since it acquired the product, so my best guess ish > thatL > a public server wouldn't bother them. I wouldn't mind running a VMS server > withG > CONDIST and FREEWARE CD's. The trouble is that my own sets are prettyhN > ancient as well. Assuming of course that HP follows DEC's practice since VMS > V5.0,uB > i.e. if you've got the license then the kit is freely available.  $ No, that is only true for hobbyists.  E Or do you know of some new HP pronouncement that commercial customersh are allowed to copy kits ?   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Mar 2005 15:08:39 -0800* From: thierry.uso@wanadoo.fr (Thierry USO)  Subject: [ANN] Jetty for OpenVMS= Message-ID: <79c022e7.0503271508.5599b2ee@posting.google.com>0  D Jetty is an HTTP/1.1 server and servlet container developped in Java? under the guidance of MortBay Consulting. It is a free software  (Apache 2.0 license).T  D Jean-Yves Bourles and I have ported Jetty 5.1.2 on OpenVMS. The PCSI kit can be downloaded at1 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/thierry.uso/jetty-en.htmle   Jetty vs Tomcat :    - uses the same APIe   - uses less memory   - easier to port   - seems a bit slower  F I have successfully tested Jetty on OpenVMS with the following webapps= : blojsom (weblog), Elips (issue tracker), contineo (document, management system).a   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.173 ************************