1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 24 May 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 288       Contents: Re: Apple to use Intel?  Re: Apple to use Intel?  Re: Apple to use Intel?  Re: Apple to use Intel?  Re: Apple to use Intel? ( RE: Big round of job cuts expected at HP Byte Range Locking  (Bless)  Re: Byte Range Locking  (Bless)  Re: CDD and privileges+ Re: Check/Change OpenVMS password w/ Apache 5 Re: Debugging web server problems (serving PPP users) 0 Re: How to filter spam based on message content?0 Re: How to filter spam based on message content? Re: HP Interex Worldwide Survey  interesting Link Re: New Cluster Interconnects ? Re: The future of Enterprise computing ... for most enterprises 3 Re: Why is DECnet rejecting access to known object?  [Announce] FreeVMS 0.1.5  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 24 May 2005 02:11:37 -0700 From: icerq4a@spray.se  Subject: Re: Apple to use Intel?A Message-ID: <1116925897.863125.3030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Tom Linden wrote: E > > NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--ThinkEquity Partners analyst Eric Ross said  the G > >   possibility of Apple Computers Inc. (AAPL) will begin using Intel  Corp.  > > (INTC) chips would be a   > > significant boost for Apple. > F > read: This investment firm has a large investment in Intel and wants to3 > boost Intel's fortunes by spreading such rumours.   B I doubt the volume Apple have does not make such a large impact on Intel.  F > Consider the impact on the software portfolio of the MAC OS.  All of itC > would need to be recompiled/repackaged, retested, and most likely  find1 > compiler differences between the two platforms.   @ Darwin is running on x86 just fine and Apple is using GCC, so...   > Apple would also lose F > out on some of the special Power features that give it a performance > edge over the 8086.   B I don't see that Power has any edge over x86 in the desktop space.   ------------------------------    Date: 24 May 2005 07:32:03 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)   Subject: Re: Apple to use Intel?3 Message-ID: <ggiuMiLQ3zH7@eisner.encompasserve.org>   N In article <opsq8dlaxazgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: > E > Following from DJ  It doesn't say, but I suspect this is the X86-64  > architecture > ? > DJ ThinkEquity: Intel Chips Would Be Good Fit For Apple >AAPL G > NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--ThinkEquity Partners analyst Eric Ross said the K >   possibility of Apple Computers Inc. (AAPL) will begin using Intel Corp.  > (INTC) chips would be a  > significant boost for Apple.G > "For Apple it gives them more price competitiveness," Ross said, in a K > CNBC interview Monday. It's "not only the processor...it's also the price ' > of all the other chips that go around J > it, so the whole economy of scale in the PC channel is better than the   > Apple 
 >   channel."   G    Sure, all they have to do is overcome decades of big endian heritage     and port to x86.   4    Or they can keep there heritage and port to IA64.  C    Neither of which gives them anything they want and don't already     have.   ------------------------------   Date: 24 May 2005 12:44:59 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)  Subject: Re: Apple to use Intel?+ Message-ID: <3fglubF7qd3aU1@individual.net>   3 In article <ggiuMiLQ3zH7@eisner.encompasserve.org>, > 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:P > In article <opsq8dlaxazgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: >>  F >> Following from DJ  It doesn't say, but I suspect this is the X86-64 >> architecture  >>  @ >> DJ ThinkEquity: Intel Chips Would Be Good Fit For Apple >AAPLH >> NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--ThinkEquity Partners analyst Eric Ross said theL >>   possibility of Apple Computers Inc. (AAPL) will begin using Intel Corp. >> (INTC) chips would be a >> significant boost for Apple. H >> "For Apple it gives them more price competitiveness," Ross said, in aL >> CNBC interview Monday. It's "not only the processor...it's also the price( >> of all the other chips that go aroundK >> it, so the whole economy of scale in the PC channel is better than the    >> Apple >>   channel." > I >    Sure, all they have to do is overcome decades of big endian heritage  >    and port to x86.   ? Actually, I think they did this already and called it "Darwin".    > 6 >    Or they can keep there heritage and port to IA64.  A As long as they don't abandon what they already have, it would be @ minimal cost and a potential for some small increase in revenue.   > E >    Neither of which gives them anything they want and don't already 
 >    have.   This being the key!!   bill    --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:56:40 +0000 (UTC) . From: klewis@LUMINA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis)  Subject: Re: Apple to use Intel?. Message-ID: <d6vfb8$jng$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   DeanW <dean.woodward@gmail.com> writes in article <3f119ada05052313416b31acc6@mail.gmail.com> dated Mon, 23 May 2005 13:41:28 -0700:; >On 5/23/05, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:  >> Tom Linden wrote:J >> > NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--ThinkEquity Partners analyst Eric Ross said theL >> > possibility of Apple Computers Inc. (AAPL) will begin using Intel Corp.9 >> > (INTC) chips would be a significant boost for Apple.  >>=20 J >> Consider the impact on the software portfolio of the MAC OS.  All of itI >> would need to be recompiled/repackaged, retested, and most likely find H >> compiler differences between the two platforms. Apple would also loseG >> out on some of the special Power features that give it a performance  >> edge over the 8086. > F >Funnier than that- I've heard of rumors that they're not talking x86- >they're talking Itanium!   L That's more plausible (but it would have to be a stripped-down version, likeC the version of Power they now use).  Apple's Mac product is a HW/SW H combination.  Porting it to x86 would invite piracy of the OS and crappy look-alike machines.    L Of course this rumor circulates every time AAPL negotiates for a contract on the next generation of CPUs.  0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:33:36 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>   Subject: Re: Apple to use Intel?0 Message-ID: <1196i94bm6cpvaf@corp.supernews.com>   Keith A. Lewis wrote:   N > Of course this rumor circulates every time AAPL negotiates for a contract on > the next generation of CPUs.  E This makes the most sense.  You never want to enter any negotiations  C where the other side thinks you are a captive customer and have no  H options.  Look at DEC's pricing of the MicroVAX 3100 in the late 1990s. H   People who needed a VAX were charged twice the price of a much faster 
 Alpha system.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:20:33 +1000 6 From: "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au>1 Subject: RE: Big round of job cuts expected at HP X Message-ID: <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05BE30@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.local>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C56041.D6144780 . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable    >-----Original Message----- * >From: Hein [mailto:hein.nomail@hp.nomail] >Sent: Tue 5/24/2005 3:58 AM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com2 >Subject: Re: Big round of job cuts expected at HP >=20% >Big round of job cuts expected at HP E >"O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au> wrote in message=20 L >news:8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05BE2F@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.= local... >>-----Original Message-----: >>From: Richard Maher [mailto:maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com] >:K >>> and if I was a VMS engineer of a certain age (that they all must be by= F  >>> now :-)  financially secure, with the kids almost off your hands,L >> From what I have seen from (IIRC) Martin's photos, both Guy and Hein are=  >> young (relatively :-). > L >Guy is indeed young and with VMS Engineering and visibly active at that. M= e,=20 K >I left VMS Engineering 10+ years ago. Still a good hobby and good folks=20 L >though. 27 years with Digitall... Compaq... HP. I am not too young looking=L  >at 50 next month, and I really should start worrying about possibly putti= ng=20 D >3 daughters through college in a short few years. Silver handcuffs.   O.K., relatively :-)  L Hmm, marrying them off is more expensive than college -- that can be deemed=L  to be spent over a few years; the wedding costs thousands for just one day=7 , and when you pay for both college and wedding ... :-(    Regards, Paddy   Regards, Paddy Cheers,  Hein.=20          G ***********************************************************************   C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged @ and confidential information intended only for the use of the=20D addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of=20C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise D the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,=207 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.   C If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid=20 C immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the=20 ? individual sender except where the sender expressly and with=20 C authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  TransGrid uses > virus-scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses contained in any attachment.  < Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now$ firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au"  G ***********************************************************************     ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C56041.D6144780 - Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   1 <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">  <HTML> <HEAD>L <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> K <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version 6.5.7226.0"> 7 <TITLE>RE: Big round of job cuts expected at HP</TITLE>  </HEAD>  <BODY>) <!-- Converted from text/plain format -->   4 <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;-----Original Message-----<BR>L &gt;From: Hein [<A HREF=3D"mailto:hein.nomail@hp.nomail">mailto:hein.nomail= @hp.nomail</A>]<BR> # &gt;Sent: Tue 5/24/2005 3:58 AM<BR> ! &gt;To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com<BR> 9 &gt;Subject: Re: Big round of job cuts expected at HP<BR>  &gt;<BR>, &gt;Big round of job cuts expected at HP<BR>L &gt;&quot;O'Brien Paddy&quot; &lt;Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au&gt; wrote = in message<BR>L &gt;<A HREF=3D"news:8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05BE2F@EX-TG2-PR.corpor=L ate.transgrid.local">news:8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05BE2F@EX-TG2-PR.=$ corporate.transgrid.local</A>...<BR>& &gt;&gt;-----Original Message-----<BR>L &gt;&gt;From: Richard Maher [<A HREF=3D"mailto:maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com"=, >mailto:maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com</A>]<BR>	 &gt;:<BR> L &gt;&gt;&gt; and if I was a VMS engineer of a certain age (that they all mu= st be by<BR>L &gt;&gt;&gt; now :-)&nbsp; financially secure, with the kids almost off you= r hands,<BR>L &gt;&gt; From what I have seen from (IIRC) Martin's photos, both Guy and He=
 in are<BR># &gt;&gt; young (relatively :-).<BR>  &gt;<BR>L &gt;Guy is indeed young and with VMS Engineering and visibly active at that=  Me,<BR>L &gt;I left VMS Engineering 10+ years ago. Still a good hobby and good folks= <BR>L &gt;though. 27 years with Digitall... Compaq... HP. I am not too young look= ing<BR> L &gt;at 50 next month, and I really should start worrying about possibly put= ting<BR>K &gt;3 daughters through college in a short few years. Silver handcuffs.<BR>  <BR> O.K., relatively :-)<BR> <BR>L Hmm, marrying them off is more expensive than college -- that can be deemed=L  to be spent over a few years; the wedding costs thousands for just one day=; , and when you pay for both college and wedding ... :-(<BR>  <BR> Regards, Paddy<BR> <BR> Regards, Paddy<BR> Cheers,<BR> 	 Hein.<BR>  <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT>  </P>   <FONT SIZE=3D3><BR>  <BR>K ***********************************************************************<BR>  <BR>G "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged<BR> B and confidential information intended only for the use of the <BR>F addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of <BR>G this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise<BR> F the sender.  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(I bloody well hope I so! It would be a real shame to waste all that money without some sort of  undertakings?)  I That said, can anyone confirm or deny that the only reason the Lock Value L Block was extended was to support UNIX satanic rituals on VMS? (Specifically "Byte Range Locking")   I Have we not missed a golden opportunity to improve the Lock Manager here? J How could you rip the guts out of this critical (if not defining) piece ofD VMS functionality without canvassing opinion on possible enhancementL requests? "Yes Cinderella, just shut the f*ck up and do only as much as yourC ugly step sisters require. You certainly won't be needing a dress!"   L What possible enhancements you may ask? Cache Fusion to start with! Now thatK the Lock Manager has most of its stuff in virtually unlimited S2 space, why J bother having a limit at all? Or at least (maybe fragmentation would be an3 issue) have a static SYSGEN parameter LCKVALBLKSIZ?   J I suppose what I'd really like is some knowledgeable person to compare andK contrast the DLM offerings from both VMS and Oracle engineering. I'd dearly J love for someone to slag-off Oracle's DLM and tell me it's complete pants!J But the way I look at it is they're kicking arse and allowing a data blockL to pass between nodes along with the lock. Sounds outrageously simple to me!  = If there's nothing wrong with it then why aren't we doing it?    Regards Richard Maher    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:53:44 -0400 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>( Subject: Re: Byte Range Locking  (Bless)= Message-ID: <s4OdnULC4qSHwQ7fRVn-ug@metrocastcablevision.com>    Richard Maher wrote:   ...   L > I suppose what I'd really like is some knowledgeable person to compare andM > contrast the DLM offerings from both VMS and Oracle engineering. I'd dearly L > love for someone to slag-off Oracle's DLM and tell me it's complete pants!L > But the way I look at it is they're kicking arse and allowing a data blockN > to pass between nodes along with the lock. Sounds outrageously simple to me!  A And not even all that innovative:  LOCUS laid the groundwork for  ? integrating distributed lock management with distributed cache  H management two decades ago, and IBM built a research system that did so  in the mid-'90s.  H But given that 5+ years seem to have seen little progress in developing H a new file system for VMS *from an implementation which already existed E and only needed massaging to finish up*, I wouldn't hold your breath.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:47:51 +0100 . From: Peter Jackson <Peter.Jackson@oracle.com> Subject: Re: CDD and privileges , Message-ID: <yBFke.24$m2.34@news.oracle.com>  C Like Rdb CDD now belongs to Oracle so you could log a call with us. G Of course you know that since you had to get a license from us to move   it to a new system :-)   Peter    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:28:44 +0300 4 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com>4 Subject: Re: Check/Change OpenVMS password w/ Apache& Message-ID: <4292F3CC.7B0D5F7A@hp.com>  	 jd wrote:  > F > Almost everything I run into is created for OSU HTTP server, but I'mH > using Apache/2.0.47 (OpenVMS) mod_ssl/2.0.47 OpenSSL/0.9.6g PHP/4.3.2.< > I have incorporated the use of auth_openvms_module and theC > AuthUserOpenVMS directive. This is great but it has certain short 
 > comings. > I > I'm interested in anything you can provide which will allow checking an G > OpenVMS user account upon their attachment to the secured WEB page. I C > have now problem coding an executable for this, but a template or  > example of how would be nice.  > C > I would like to be able to provide the following functionalities: 6 > 1.) If password expired then prompt for new password- > 2.) If account is disusered disallow access + > 3.) If account is expired disallow access   H Just tried a URL set with "AuthOpenVMSUser On" and "Require valid-user":G With an account set "disuser" *and* "pwdexpired" authorization failed - E did'nt go into more detail than that (Oh, and valid username/password 
 succeeded)9 Thats using SWS V2.0.  IIRC it worked the same with V1.3.   H What might be more difficult is prompting for a new password, especiallyF if you cannot login with the expired password. I think the qustion hasC been raised before in various forums, but I can recall no solution.    Mike > 3 > I take it SWS does NOT come with this capability? 	 > Thanks,  > jd   --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 04:00:17 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> > Subject: Re: Debugging web server problems (serving PPP users), Message-ID: <4292DF0B.6F714393@teksavvy.com>   Just for posterity...   B The problem I had was with the OSU web server configuration. I hadH defined, in the configuration file, a time limit of 2 minutes to respond' to HTTP requests. (timelimit response).   D Nobody had complained before, most likely because nobody with dialup9 line had tried to download something bigger than a few K.   & I set the limit to 30 minutes for now.  H Should web servers have a time limit to respond to requests ? If so, how long should it be ?   H (Can I simply remove that configuration line and have the web server not impose any limit ?).   ------------------------------    Date: 24 May 2005 07:38:02 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 9 Subject: Re: How to filter spam based on message content? 3 Message-ID: <v$GOf4wgclSI@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <42923764.FDC91324@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Bob Koehler wrote:L >>    The earlier absolutely has no impact on the latter.  In the middle, ifM >>    you want a symbiont and can't interface with the one UCX gives you, you  >>    can write your own.  >  > F > The problem is that writing your own full featured SMTP receiver and= > symbiont (sender for local and remote mail) is a big tasks.  > I > It would be nice to first port a full featured receiver and replace the H > basic one that comes with TCPIP services without having to rewrite the > whole SMTP stack.   ?    Yeah, and I'm still waiting for them to publish a driver-ACP F    interface so that I can write drivers for my hardware that talks toF    Files-11 ACPs or write ACPs for other file systems that talk to VMS    supplied drivers.  H    But there doesn't seem to be a business model justifying either sinceJ    DEC, Compaq, and now HP all think VMS targets only back end high volumeF    transaction processing.  Email, isn't there an MS product for that?  B    Gone are they days when, if you had a sotware system to do, youB    went out and bought a VAX becase you new VMS could do anything.1    Of course, VMS still can, but it owners can't.    ------------------------------    Date: 24 May 2005 09:15:40 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 9 Subject: Re: How to filter spam based on message content? 3 Message-ID: <oeFMUuBv7xCZ@eisner.encompasserve.org>   q In article <v$GOf4wgclSI@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:   J >> It would be nice to first port a full featured receiver and replace theI >> basic one that comes with TCPIP services without having to rewrite the  >> whole SMTP stack. > A >    Yeah, and I'm still waiting for them to publish a driver-ACP H >    interface so that I can write drivers for my hardware that talks toH >    Files-11 ACPs or write ACPs for other file systems that talk to VMS >    supplied drivers.  ; So you want a specification of the Files-11 ACP interfaces.   . But other ACPs will have different interfaces.  J >    But there doesn't seem to be a business model justifying either sinceL >    DEC, Compaq, and now HP all think VMS targets only back end high volume >    transaction processing.  E The cheapest way to do this, all around, is for you to buy the source H listings kit.  That way they preserve their ability to make incompatible@ changes in the interface (addressing larger disks, for example).  E I would say the number of people who need what you are looking for is  minimal.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:41:53 +1000  From: Phaeton <spam@spam.org> ( Subject: Re: HP Interex Worldwide SurveyI Message-ID: <4292f6e0$0$5616$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>    Larry Kilgallen wrote:k > In article <42928292$0$5610$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, Phaeton <spam@spam.org> writes:  > 6 >>Here is a chance to voice our opinions about OpenVMS >>D >>http://www.hpcustomersurvey.com/advocacy/survey/05survey/index.php >>  >>The more people, the better... >  > B > They seem to be surveying only Microsoft users, since the second> > page has no text using Netscape Navigator 4.75 on MacOS 9.1.  F   I used Firefox ( or K-Meleon ) this afternoon with no problem. TheseA   use the Mozilla engine. Of course there is no excuse that other F   browsers ( on Mac or Windows or Unix ) don't work with this website.  G   The survey ends on June 30, I think. There will a prize draw for some B   of those who give the "right" answers... :-)  ( Not for me, as I(   mentioned Alpha and VAX a few times. ) 						Cheers,  CsabaK   ------------------------------------------------------------------------- H    CSABA I. HARANGOZO  |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|  phaeton at iinet dot net dot au I ------------------------------------------------------------------------- <     EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:18:17 -0700  From: "Giox" <dd@ss.it>  Subject: interesting Link 5 Message-ID: <d7d3pd$919$5073@ftp-news.csita.unige.it>   J Hello everybody, I found on the web an interesting way to gain some money:d it's netbux, that allows you to learn something while you search the web through google or altaista.V I earned 40$ in a month, not a lot, but I have simply to use Google to do My searches.  If you want try it subscribe at:   http://netbux.org/?r=67933   ------------------------------   Date: 24 May 2005 05:57:44 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>& Subject: Re: New Cluster Interconnects? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-PKOZx9bYOXdp@dave2_os2.home.ours>   F On Mon, 23 May 2005 10:15:16 UTC, "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk> wrote:   > R > <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in message news:877jhqepu0.fsf@prep.synonet.com... > D > > Almost everyone I've talked to did not know that GBE over copperA > > runs 4 120Mbaud lines and has to do a line turnaround, unlike 1 > > fibre where it is a real full duplex circuit.  > E > Who told you that? It's 4 125 Mbaud channels simultaneously in both 
 > directions.   , I wondered about that. My brain was going :-   4 * 125 = 1/2 Gb  
 but now it's     4 * 125 * 2 = 1Gb    --   Cheers - Dave W.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:38:07 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> H Subject: Re: The future of Enterprise computing ... for most enterprises0 Message-ID: <1196ihear8i5u1b@corp.supernews.com>   John Smith wrote: " > In the article JF cites it says,  J > Operating systems like VMS and MVS, Solaris, and others will fall by theN > wayside as their owners find it too costly to develop, sell and compete withN > 'free' operating system on cheap hardware from Tiawan and China that's 'good7 > enough' for 95% of the Fortune 5000 corporate market.    What will the remaining 5% do?   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------    Date: 24 May 2005 09:46:52 -0700" From: "Bill Law" <blaw@cincom.com>< Subject: Re: Why is DECnet rejecting access to known object?C Message-ID: <1116953211.971399.119990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Tom Stern wrote:8 > Silly thought: check the NETSERVER.LOG version number? > D > On 17 May 2005 08:48:10 -0700, "Bill Law" <blaw@cincom.com> wrote: > 
 > >Greetings,  > > A > >We're having a problem with DECnet rejecting access to a known  object? > >from one account but working from another.  Yet there are no  apparentD > >access controls and no error messages.  This is quite frustrating and $ > >we're hoping one of you can help. > > B > >We run a program which declares itself as a DECnet known object using # > >the following sequence of calls:  > >    sys$crembx()  > >    sys$assign()  > >    sys$qiow(IO$_ACPCONTROL)  > >    sys$qio(IO$_READVBLK) > >    sys$qiow(IO$_ACCESS) E > >Then from another process a connection is attempted with a program  with > >these calls:  > >    lib$asn_wth_mbx() > >    sys$qiow(IO$_ACCESS)  > >    sys$qiow(IO$_READVBLK)  > > A > >When user A runs the first program it declares a known network  objectG > >as it should, and then running the second program successfully makes  a  > >connection. > > F > >When user B runs the first program it also declares a known networkG > >object as it should, but then running the second program fails with: ; > >    %SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected F > >while the first program never even receives the connection request.E > >Apparently VMS or DECnet or something is rejecting the connection.  > >Why?  > > E > >User A and user B have the same account privileges and rights.  No F > >account nor password are defined for the known network object.  TheF > >default DECnet account is not enabled.  Proxy access is defined as: > >    *::*  > >        * (D) > > E > >There are no error messages, no operator messages, and no security F > >alarms.  What could be causing this?  Is the object somehow 'owned' byB > >user A denying access to user B, even though the image has been rundown % > >by user A and restarted by user B?  > > ) > >Any help would be greatly appreciated.  > >  > >Cheers, Bill  :-)  E Thanks to all who responded with ideas to try.  I finally gave in and C placed a call with HP Support and I must compliment them on working   hard to come up with the answer.  G FYI, the internal NCB buffer is too big for the mailbox message size of D 64 and NETACP was rejecting the connection without an error message.> This was a change in the undocumented overhead (which includesA username) added by NETACP from DECnet Phase IV to DECnet Phase V, @ causing my short 3 letter username to work but SYSTEM's 6 letterD username and another users 8 letter username to fail.  We were rightE near the threshold.  It has already been escalated to VMS Engineering ? so that an "insufficient buffer" error will be returned in this E situation in the future.  I increased our MAX_MSG size from 64 to 150 E (since that's what they said NETACP uses internally) and it all works  now.   Cheers, Bill  :-)    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:00:42 +0000 (UTC) $ From: JKB <knatschke@koenigsberg.fr>! Subject: [Announce] FreeVMS 0.1.5 ; Message-ID: <slrnd969bq.nnt.knatschke@rayleigh.systella.fr>    	Hello,   ) 	A new release of FreeVMS is available at & 	http://freshmeat.net/projects/freevms   News:  General:  New Bliss version, now at 0.1.1.; Work has started on utilizing all 4 CPU-modes (and stacks).  CONFIG_VMS: H Improved terminal driver; can now read more than one char at a time from> stdin. Have also got infrastructure to handle ctrl characters.   Bugs fixed:  CONFIG_VMS:  Terminal output missing cr. - Telnet (CMUIP) session getting double output.    New bugs/features:9 Telnet (CMUIP) session input also get written at console.    Notes: General:+ Some more telnet modules compiled by Bliss. 0 Only executive mode is used with some test code.  	 	Regards,    	JKB   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.288 ************************                                                        ۼt+޹%8ލxu28C?V&<:WWUKn=89׽j<:Q3z?לxN=GYث2L?JLeD'~L_%&"y"6U&	Wb"T<~~zԻȂmCz~_{!|
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