1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 25 May 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 290       Contents: ABC problem with disk  Re: ABC problem with disk  Re: ABC problem with disk  Re: ABC problem with disk  Re: Apple to use Intel? ) Re: backup save set transport and restore  Re: Byte Range Locking  (Bless) 
 FTP status Re: FTP status4 Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter4 Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter4 Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter4 Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter4 Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter4 Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter Re: Installing a printer Re: Installing a printer Re: Installing a printer Re: Installing a printer! Re: message ident length question 3 Re: Pig's Arse! (Was: Re: FMS Runtime Installation) 3 Re: Pig's Arse! (Was: Re: FMS Runtime Installation) P Re: Still having problems installing a series 7 version of VMS on a VS3100 VS310 TCPIP$TELNETSYM  Re: TCPIP$TELNETSYM  Re: TCPIP$TELNETSYM  Re: TCPIP$TELNETSYM  Re: TCPIP$TELNETSYM < Third party Windows App to NFS map OpenVMS to Windows Server@ Re: Third party Windows App to NFS map OpenVMS to Windows Server  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 07:32:20 -0700) From: "Joe Sewell" <ultrajoe@spamcop.net>  Subject: ABC problem with diskC Message-ID: <1117031540.458870.257170@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   D Our organization has just gone to using ABC for networked backups ofF machines scattered throughout the campus.  My particular machine seemsG to have a problem.  It has a 9-bay StorageWorks tower with 7 18GB disks A in it.  One of those disks seems to put ABC into an infinite loop G scanning for backup candidates.  If I manually run ABC INCREMENTAL with C the /ALIAS=COPY qualifier, it works just fine.  The default doesn't D have the /ALIAS qualifier, and I've seen it churn for *days* without backing up a single file.   2 ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR/READ/RECORD shows no problems.  1 Anybody have any ideas what else to look at here?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:42:57 -0400 - From: William Webb <william.w.webb@gmail.com> " Subject: Re: ABC problem with disk7 Message-ID: <8660a3a1050525084235197a3f@mail.gmail.com>   G On 25 May 2005 07:32:20 -0700, Joe Sewell <ultrajoe@spamcop.net> wrote: F > Our organization has just gone to using ABC for networked backups ofH > machines scattered throughout the campus.  My particular machine seemsI > to have a problem.  It has a 9-bay StorageWorks tower with 7 18GB disks C > in it.  One of those disks seems to put ABC into an infinite loop I > scanning for backup candidates.  If I manually run ABC INCREMENTAL with G > the /ALIAS=3DCOPY qualifier, it works just fine.  The default doesn't F > have the /ALIAS qualifier, and I've seen it churn for *days* without > backing up a single file.  >=204 > ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR/READ/RECORD shows no problems. >=203 > Anybody have any ideas what else to look at here?  >=20 >=20  ABC, huh.  Not familiar with it.   ABS/MDMS/SLS/BACKUP, yes.   B If you can't restore a bootable configured system disk, be afraid,) and ready for a complicated DR situation.    Two questions come to mind:   : What is the complete backup command used for full backups?  D Do the full backup logs for that disk indicate anything interesting?   WWWebb   --=20 C NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  correspondence. C All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for 8 services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at# http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:54:32 +0200 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>" Subject: Re: ABC problem with disk+ Message-ID: <3fjotjF86moaU1@individual.net>    Joe Sewell wrote:   F > Our organization has just gone to using ABC for networked backups ofH > machines scattered throughout the campus.  My particular machine seemsI > to have a problem.  It has a 9-bay StorageWorks tower with 7 18GB disks C > in it.  One of those disks seems to put ABC into an infinite loop I > scanning for backup candidates.  If I manually run ABC INCREMENTAL with E > the /ALIAS=COPY qualifier, it works just fine.  The default doesn't F > have the /ALIAS qualifier, and I've seen it churn for *days* without > backing up a single file.  > 4 > ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR/READ/RECORD shows no problems. > 3 > Anybody have any ideas what else to look at here?  >   F Just to clarify, is ABC the product known as Archive Backup Client as A documented at http://www.rdperf.com/RDHTML/literature_main.html ?   F I ask because I have used a different backup product called ABC, some 1 years ago (the acronym stood for something else).    ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 10:39:45 -0700 From: "R Boyd" <bob@hax.com>" Subject: Re: ABC problem with diskC Message-ID: <1117042785.555806.299800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   E I'm not familiar with ABC -- as someone else asked -- is this the ABS  Client?   + If so, which version do you have installed?   F You might try installing DFU available from Freeware 7 distribution ifC you have VMS V7.3-2 or later running.  When installed  $ DFU VERIFY A <drive>/FIX/LOCK/DIRECT to get a slightly more thorough scan than  ANALYZE may be doing.    ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 07:33:55 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)   Subject: Re: Apple to use Intel?3 Message-ID: <Gadgdg9JgNXJ@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <3fhedbF7sc0sU2@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: > B > BSD kernels are not Mach based.  OS X runs a Mach kernel and BSD > (and GNU) utilities.  H    According to Apple, they are using a BSD UNIX kernel on top of a MachG    micro-kernel.  They're hardly the first to do this.  There have been A    investigations into a VMS kernel on a Mach micro-kerenl (isn't     FreeVMS one of them?).    >   E > I hate to break it to you, but "The tools and applications" are the F > FreeBSD Userland.  They run on pretty much any architecture that youF > choose to compile them on. The only part that is still unique to Mac
 > is the GUI.   F    You found iTunes, iMovie, Finder, Launcher, Speach, and Project on B    a FreeBSD site that I can run on my Intel based FreeBSD system?  E >    "Beneath the easy-to-use interface and rich graphics of Mac OS X F >     lies Darwin, an open source, UNIX-based foundation built on such( >     technologies as mach and FreeBSD."&                       ^^^^         ^^^  D    Gee, I think that's what I said.  Mach is a micro-kernel, the BSD    kernel runs on top of it.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 01:55:46 -0700! From: "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> 2 Subject: Re: backup save set transport and restoreB Message-ID: <1117011346.701795.35250@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  < thanks for your pointers to the correct build flags "-LARGE"   i restarted the test  3 1) backup/image/ignore=interlock disk: xxx.bck/save    size : 13,3 GB   2) checksum xxx.bck     CHECKSUM$CHECKSUM = "2579215742"   3) zip30 "-V" xxx.zip xxx.bck    duration: 75 min size of zipfile: 8,15 GB   4) copy xxx.bck xxx.sav    5) unzip60 -t xxx.zip 	 no errors    but unzip5 -t xxx.zip D Archive:  DISK$BACKUP1:[ippsa2]alphasys_ippsa2$dka0_240505_zmr.zip;1D   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not D   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the E   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found  on#   the last disk(s) of this archive. ( unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in& alphasys_ippsa2$dka0_240505_zmr.zip;1,         and cannot find G DISK$BACKUP1:[ippsa2]ALPHASYS_IPPSA2$DKA0_240505_ZMR.ZIP;1.zip, period.      6) unzip60 -x xxx.zip    duration: 8 min 
 size: 13,3 GB    7) checksum xxx.bck   CHECKSUM$CHECKSUM = "2579215742"   8) backup/list xxx.bck/save    test passed   " 9) ftp xxx.zip from vms to windows   winzip -t xxx.zip  unexpected end of archive   # 10) ftp xxx.zip from windows to vms    unzip60 -t xxx.zip no errors detected   11) unzip60 -x xxx.zip   12) checksum xxx.bck!  CHECKSUM$CHECKSUM = "2579215742"   	 good sign    13) backup/list xxx.bck/save   test passed   % i have some improvements suggestions:   D zip30 and unzip60 build without the "-LARGE " option should issue an. error when dealing with files larger than 2 GB< and reference to the "-LARGE" version for dealing with such.   regards,   Nazim Manser   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 07:38:12 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ( Subject: Re: Byte Range Locking  (Bless)3 Message-ID: <5ACyKb8unvMO@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <+YGnQnZ6q07G@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: w > In article <d6veud$eb2$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:  > L >> That said, can anyone confirm or deny that the only reason the Lock ValueO >> Block was extended was to support UNIX satanic rituals on VMS? (Specifically  >> "Byte Range Locking") > I > That seems unlikely since byte range locking has been used by Pathworks  > for years.  +    Out of the frying pan and into the fire.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:33:52 -0400 + From: "stinehelferw" <stinehelferw@cox.net>  Subject: FTP status * Message-ID: <zV0le.248$xu3.209@lakeread02>  L Is there a method to find the status of an FTP session on the receiving end?   We're transferring LARGE files.   D On the end the initiates the session, one can use Ctrl-T to get some information.  K On the receiving end the system allocates the amount of disk space required I for the full file and shows size 0 blocks in directory listing until file  transfer complete.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 09:49:19 -0700 From: JimStrehlow@data911.com  Subject: Re: FTP status B Message-ID: <1117039759.300631.78380@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  % $DEFINE/PROCESS   SYS$OUTPUT  FTP.LOG  FTP ...  $DEASSIGN/PROCESS SYS$OUTPUT  $SEARCH FTP.LOG  "target string"3 $! $severity:   1 = found,   3 = no strings matched  $! $ IF $SEVERITY .EQ. 1    Your target string may be   230 'username' is logged on  200 Port request OK  226 Transfer complete. $  250 Transfer completed successfully$  n bytes sent in 00:00:00.07 seconds  . Jim Strehlow, OpenVMS Systems Manager, Data911 Alameda, CA, USA   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 02:47:17 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> = Subject: Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter , Message-ID: <42941F5F.A912F471@teksavvy.com>   Didier Morandi wrote: G > Hurd. Somewhat surprisingly, the Business Critical Server unit, which B > sells Itanium and other enterprise-class servers, had sales up 2H > percent. Inside the BCS unit, sales of Itanium-based Integrity serversG > (which support HP-UX, Windows, Linux, and OpenVMS) were up 37 percent 4 > (and accounted for 21 percent of total BCS sales).  C So, many years into IA64, IA64 still represents only 21% of revenus 9 compared to dead architectures of Alpha, PaRisc and MIPS.    > Sales of HP-UX= > servers based on the PA-RISC processors were up 9 percent,    @ Not bad for a dead platform. Shows that some marketing and salesG initatives can even sell dead platforms. So if Alpha sales didn't rise, 8 it would be because HP isn't trying to sell VMS systems.  G > said. He added that for the Unix business in particular, sales in the + > Americas region was higher than expected.   " Read: excluding VMS, BCS did well.   > Pourquoi je voterai NON 7 > a la Constitution europeenne :  http://mpf31.free.fr/   3 If you live in Switzerland, how come you can vote ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 04:24:57 -0400 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>= Subject: Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter = Message-ID: <J-ydnejjW_LGqwnfRVn-oA@metrocastcablevision.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Didier Morandi wrote:    ...    >>Sales of HP-UX= >>servers based on the PA-RISC processors were up 9 percent,   >  >  > Not bad for a dead platform.  I Actually, not quite a dead platform.  You want a dead platform, look to,  I say, Tru64 - and, of course, some of those PH-UX sales were to reluctant  G Tru64 refugees (among those who didn't abandon the HP ship altogether).   H As a point of reference, IBM's AIX sales were up 12% in its most recent C quarter (and without a canceled sister product to help boost them).    - bill   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 02:25:07 -0700 From: icerq4a@spray.se= Subject: Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter C Message-ID: <1117013107.245624.199750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Bill Todd wrote: > JF Mezei wrote:  > > Didier Morandi wrote:  >  > ...  >  > >>Sales of HP-UX> > >>servers based on the PA-RISC processors were up 9 percent, > >  > >   > > Not bad for a dead platform. > J > Actually, not quite a dead platform.  You want a dead platform, look to,J > say, Tru64 - and, of course, some of those PH-UX sales were to reluctantI > Tru64 refugees (among those who didn't abandon the HP ship altogether).  > I > As a point of reference, IBM's AIX sales were up 12% in its most recent E > quarter (and without a canceled sister product to help boost them).   G Considering that HP is in a transition phase, I am surprised they do as F well as they do. IBM is not in a transition phase, so I expect them to8 have better figures, anything else would be embarrasing.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 02:21:50 -0700 From: icerq4a@spray.se= Subject: Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter C Message-ID: <1117012910.473444.122660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Didier Morandi wrote: I > > Hurd. Somewhat surprisingly, the Business Critical Server unit, which D > > sells Itanium and other enterprise-class servers, had sales up 2J > > percent. Inside the BCS unit, sales of Itanium-based Integrity serversI > > (which support HP-UX, Windows, Linux, and OpenVMS) were up 37 percent 6 > > (and accounted for 21 percent of total BCS sales). > E > So, many years into IA64, IA64 still represents only 21% of revenus ; > compared to dead architectures of Alpha, PaRisc and MIPS.   F It was first in the beginning of 2004 when HP had a similar line-up ofE Integrity servers as their 9000 servers. Larger servers (above 4-way) = were introduced in 2003 and large revenue is in the big-iron.    > > Sales of HP-UX> > > servers based on the PA-RISC processors were up 9 percent, >  > Not bad for a dead platform.  , As far as I have followed the presentations,2 that HP-UX figure was for both Integrity and 9000.   > I > > said. He added that for the Unix business in particular, sales in the - > > Americas region was higher than expected.  > $ > Read: excluding VMS, BCS did well.  % You don't read. Storage did not well.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:07:51 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <prenom.nom@freesurf.fr> = Subject: Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter 3 Message-ID: <429478a8$0$2458$626a14ce@news.free.fr>    JF Mezei wrote:  > 5 > If you live in Switzerland, how come you can vote ?   F I have both nationalities. My administrative address is in Geneva for H business purposes, but I have another address in Toulouse where my wife 9 and sons live, and where I am, less that 180 days a year.    D.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 06:27:16 -0700$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>= Subject: Re: HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter C Message-ID: <1117027636.244017.289390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Didier Morandi wrote:  > From The Windows Observer  > 2 > HP Pulls Off a Respectable Second Fiscal Quarter4 > http://www.itjungle.com/two/two052505-story04.html >  > by Timothy Prickett Morgan >  [...]  > J > As for what Hurd plans to do with HP, he said that he had spent the pastG > month visiting thousands of HP customers and managers to get his head H > wrapped around the company, and that he would put forth an operationalH > plan within the next couple of months. He said that there was no quick    B Thousands? In one month? Asuuming that thousands is at least 2000,= that's at least 66 customers per day if you include weekends!    OK, maybe I'm nitpicking. :-)    [...]    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:22:13 +0100 ( From: MJS <maniac449@nospam.hotmail.com>! Subject: Re: Installing a printer 9 Message-ID: <42941995$0$310$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>     Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:d > In article <240520051552273658%paul.anderson@hp.com>, Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com> writes: > H >>The recommended way to set up a queue for the printer is to use DCPS. F >>Install DCPS (no additional license required) and modify the startup >>procedure to create a queue. >  > K > Don't. Don't use the startup to create a queue ! Use startup to start the ; > queue which you created before once (eventually by hand). G > Queue creation is required only once and costs quite some time (which L > sums to umpteen minutes unneccessary startup time when you have a hundredsG > of queues). Create the DCPS queues /AUTOSTART_ON (which - at least in L > earlier times - meant you have to create the DCPS queues by hand) and then+ > use only ENABLE AUTOSTART in VMS startup.  >  >  >>DCPS documentation is at >>/ >>  <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/dcps24.html>  >>  9 Thanks for the link, I'll see what I can learn from here.   F >>>I have already asked HP's printer people on how to do this but they >>>gave up, nice.  >>G >>Really?!?!  That _is_ nice.  There are many people knowledgable about H >>DCPS at the Customer Support Center.  You must not have reached any of >>them.  >   I I'd sent an e-mail with all the details, which I'd have hoped would have  F been bounced to the right person/people, & the only question that was F asked was whether we'd be using the Parallel port or Ethernet, sent a G reply with Parallel. 4 days later, sorry we can't help you try the VMS  	 web site.   E I have to admit, I wouldn't expect them to know everything about all  I Operating Systems but it would be fair to expect them to know how to get  , their printers to work with any OS.  Ho Hum.   > G > Are any of the 'VMS/DCPS knowledge people' in presales support (or at % > the printer sales) ? Don't seem so. @ > Or do you phone CSC if you have no support contract normally ? >    Thanks for replies.   H Is DCPS part of Open VMS 7.1-2, or will I have to acquire it seperately  from HP, or elsewhere?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 07:30:21 +0100 ( From: MJS <maniac449@nospam.hotmail.com>! Subject: Re: Installing a printer 9 Message-ID: <42941b7d$0$347$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>    David J Dachtera wrote:  > MJS wrote: > ) >>A question for all you gurus out there.  >>F >>I have a HP 5100dtn (A3 & A4 duplex) LaserJet printer that I need to8 >>hook up to an AlphaServer DS10 (running OpenVMS7.1-2). >>F >>Hopefully this will seem like a noddy problem to some but we've beenJ >>given a system that wasn't set up to print and received no documentation5 >>for the Operating System, hence I'm somewhat stuck.  >>J >>I have already asked HP's printer people on how to do this but they gave >>up, nice.  >>J >> From what little I know about OpenVMS (I've been on 'kin steep learningF >>curve for the last 9 months), I know I need to set up a port for theJ >>printer, define it and set-up the printer queue but as to exactly how to >>do it, pass. >>/ >>Exactly what do I have to do & in what order?  >>) >>Any help most very gratefully received.  >  >  > Is this direct-attached? > G > There is a parallel printer driver on VMS. You probably have a device 0 > named LRA0: That's the parallel printer port.  > C > See the on-line help for INITIALIZE /QUEUE, and the documentation G > accessible via the web at http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc especially A > the System Manager's Manual that can be found under the OpenVMS ! > Operating System documentation.  > I > If you'll be accessing the printer by TCP/IP, the discussion gets a bit  > longer...  >   G We'd like to use the parallel port 'LRA0:' but also have the option of  D Ethernet.  As LRA0: is displayed when I 'SH DEV' I take it that the ) driver for the port is already installed?   D Apologies if that's a stupid question but my Systems Manager course ) wasn't as complete as I would have liked.    MJS    ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 12:02:33 +01006 From: eplan@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)! Subject: Re: Installing a printer * Message-ID: <42946959@news.langstoeger.at>  d In article <42941995$0$310$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, MJS <maniac449@nospam.hotmail.com> writes:J >I'd sent an e-mail with all the details, which I'd have hoped would have G >been bounced to the right person/people, & the only question that was  G >asked was whether we'd be using the Parallel port or Ethernet, sent a  H >reply with Parallel. 4 days later, sorry we can't help you try the VMS 
 >web site.  8 Try a different answer and see if they can help then ;-)  F >I have to admit, I wouldn't expect them to know everything about all J >Operating Systems but it would be fair to expect them to know how to get - >their printers to work with any OS.  Ho Hum.   J As there are different methods for every printer multiplied with differentH methods for every opsys things might me complicated but a FAQ might haveI helped them and therefor the customers then. But no, and it is only years  ago since VMS was inhaled.  I >Is DCPS part of Open VMS 7.1-2, or will I have to acquire it seperately   >from HP, or elsewhere?   F DCPS (current is V2.4) is a layered product (though covered by the VMSJ license and support) and must be obtained extra. There are various methodsH (like buying the media by HPQ, buying the OpenVMS Hobbyist media, buyingH a CD media consolidated distribution support contract, lending a CD fromM a friend or your S/W support person, downloading it from HPQ with a password, @ and so on) and which one you choose depends on your environment.   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 07:36:52 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ! Subject: Re: Installing a printer 3 Message-ID: <SkzkcvFZDq59@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <4293D939.5E7B4168@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes: > G > There is a parallel printer driver on VMS. You probably have a device 0 > named LRA0: That's the parallel printer port.   D    It's been a long, long time since I've seen an LR or LP device on>    a VMS system.  Or a parallel printer port for it to map to.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 11:44:33 -05004 From: kuhrt@nospammy.encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt)* Subject: Re: message ident length question3 Message-ID: <ma7fO7wG32it@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <R6Mmzc7lmdOm@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: l > In article <HqloglI4zYC2@eisner.encompasserve.org>, kuhrt@nospammy.encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) writes: > A >> Well, there you go.  Now that I know exactly where to look it  @ >> becomes clear.  Seems I looked through the manual a few times< >> and didn't see it, but then my short term memory isn't... >>  " >> What was I talking about again? > @ > As I recall, you were talking about sending me lots of cash...  3 Hmmm, I seem to have forgotten that as well...  ;^)    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:35:44 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> < Subject: Re: Pig's Arse! (Was: Re: FMS Runtime Installation)( Message-ID: <opsrca1uk4zgicya@hyrrokkin>  9 On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:32:24 +0000 (UTC), Richard Maher   $ <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:   > Hi,  > ' >> VMSINSTAL was a old, and crude tool.  > - > Yeah, not as modern and refined as PCSI eh?  > K > I went to install COBOL on a box I've got and to my horror I found that    > itI > is now PCSI based. "No big deal" I thought; just get on and do it. So I H > proceeded to install it. (Does anyone ever answer "NO" to "Would you  	 > like to J > take the defaults?") Anyway, while running the IVP it reported all theseJ > link errors "Can't find DCOB$blah". So it looks like the RTL didn't comeJ > down so I decided to look at the documentation to see why. Now I don't   > knowE > about you, but I was astonished to find directions such as these: -  > J > 1) There are three kits here. If you don't already have an RTL, you must > install that first.  > J > 2) If you have VMS version FOO then install RTL version BAR else version > BLAH > ; > Instead, wouldn't it be nice (bloody obvious!) to see : -  > F > * This version of COBOL requires RTL version blah. Would you like to > install/replace it? [YES]  > K > And by some unknown miracle of programming wizardry, the kit would work    > out L > what version of VMS was available and act accordingly? Ah but that would   > be( > *PROCEDURAL* wouldn't it? Silly me :-( > + > So, which of the following is correct : -  > G > a) Don Braffit presides over a bunch of lazy-arse kit-builders. (No   
 > shortage > of them around.) > E > b) PCSI is a pile o' crap, ham-strung from inception by the petty    > prejudices > of self-indulgent bigots.  >  > c) Both a) and b)  >  > Regards Richard Maher   K PL/I installs with VMSINSTAL, and you get the added advantage of not having 
 to use Cobol.    ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 12:02:14 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) < Subject: Re: Pig's Arse! (Was: Re: FMS Runtime Installation)3 Message-ID: <teecFHlQQYgY@eisner.encompasserve.org>   u In article <d71up7$edl$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:   J > 1) There are three kits here. If you don't already have an RTL, you must > install that first.   B There is a way to express that in PCSI.  If the kit did not do so, the kit (not PCSI) is in error.   B I can believe that they XYZ group failed to test on a machine that never has had XYZ installed.  J > 2) If you have VMS version FOO then install RTL version BAR else version > BLAH  B There is a way to express that in PCSI.  If the kit did not do so, the kit (not PCSI) is in error.   B I can believe that they XYZ group failed to test on a machine that5 and not have particular versions of XYZrtl installed.   ; > Instead, wouldn't it be nice (bloody obvious!) to see : -  > F > * This version of COBOL requires RTL version blah. Would you like to > install/replace it? [YES]  > M > And by some unknown miracle of programming wizardry, the kit would work out M > what version of VMS was available and act accordingly? Ah but that would be ( > *PROCEDURAL* wouldn't it? Silly me :-(  H No, it would not be procedural, and that capability is provided by PCSI.  + > So, which of the following is correct : -  > N > a) Don Braffit presides over a bunch of lazy-arse kit-builders. (No shortage > of them around.)  C a1. Don Braffit has not been given any staff who know anything more      about PCSI than you do.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:27:43 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com Y Subject: Re: Still having problems installing a series 7 version of VMS on a VS3100 VS310 - Message-ID: <87oeazsoao.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   3 drwho8__NOTME__@att.net (The Eighth Doctor) writes:   F > I am getting error messages such as a HLT command being seen. As forC > system disk sizes, I have two. One for about 2 GB, I'm only using ? > half of that, or will be.  And the other one is about 550 GB.   ' How do you intend to use half a disk???    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 00:06:38 -07003 From: "phantasmus" <norbert.hanowski@dillinger.biz>  Subject: TCPIP$TELNETSYMC Message-ID: <1117004798.296497.101280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Hi,  My Problem: F I send labels as text file to a label printer via a queue ($INITIALIZEC /QUEUE /PROCESSOR=TCPIP$TELNETSYM/ON="xxx.xxx.xxx.253:8000" E_TEST) C On the way to my printer inside this text file my "13 10" (carriage G return linefeed)changes to "13 12" (!!!) and my printer prints an empty  label.C Has anybody any idea and where is an alternative? Perhaps a socket?    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:17:01 GMT # From: "Phil" <dooleys@snowy.net.au>  Subject: Re: TCPIP$TELNETSYM: Message-ID: <1wWke.448$BR4.305@news-server.bigpond.net.au>  > "phantasmus" <norbert.hanowski@dillinger.biz> wrote in message= news:1117004798.296497.101280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...  > Hi, 
 > My Problem: H > I send labels as text file to a label printer via a queue ($INITIALIZEE > /QUEUE /PROCESSOR=TCPIP$TELNETSYM/ON="xxx.xxx.xxx.253:8000" E_TEST) E > On the way to my printer inside this text file my "13 10" (carriage I > return linefeed)changes to "13 12" (!!!) and my printer prints an empty  > label.E > Has anybody any idea and where is an alternative? Perhaps a socket?  > > you can modify the behaviour of the telnet symbiont by setting= various logical names, you may need the one with "RAW" in it.  PhilM http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73FINAL/6526/6526pro_041.html#telnet_print_chap    ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 02:43:13 -07003 From: "phantasmus" <norbert.hanowski@dillinger.biz>  Subject: Re: TCPIP$TELNETSYMC Message-ID: <1117014193.626232.223590@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    I tried this logicals )   "TCPIP$TELNETSYM_RAW_TCP" [super] = "1" (   "TCPIP$TELNETSYM_RAW_TCP" [exec] = "1"5   "TCPIP$TELNETSYM_SUPPRESS_FORMFEEDS" [super] = "17" 4   "TCPIP$TELNETSYM_SUPPRESS_FORMFEEDS" [exec] = "17" with no success ... ;-((   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 12:44:06 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: TCPIP$TELNETSYM, Message-ID: <42947316$1@news.langstoeger.at>  y In article <1117004798.296497.101280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "phantasmus" <norbert.hanowski@dillinger.biz> writes: G >I send labels as text file to a label printer via a queue ($INITIALIZE D >/QUEUE /PROCESSOR=TCPIP$TELNETSYM/ON="xxx.xxx.xxx.253:8000" E_TEST)D >On the way to my printer inside this text file my "13 10" (carriageH >return linefeed)changes to "13 12" (!!!) and my printer prints an empty >label. D >Has anybody any idea and where is an alternative? Perhaps a socket?  B Try to define the queue with /DEFAULT=NOFEED and with a form which@ has /NOTRUNCATE and /NOWRAP. If it were a LAT queue I would alsoC suggest setting the LTAx device to /EIGHTBIT/FEED/TAB (or /PASSALL) G but as this doesn't apply to a TELNETSYM queue so I yet don't know what  to suggest further...    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 06:52:48 -07003 From: "phantasmus" <norbert.hanowski@dillinger.biz>  Subject: Re: TCPIP$TELNETSYMC Message-ID: <1117029168.948863.196490@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Thank You - but no success...   , A pessimist is an optimist with experiences.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2005 06:38:16 -0700 From: JimStrehlow@data911.com E Subject: Third party Windows App to NFS map OpenVMS to Windows Server C Message-ID: <1117028296.031261.145470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   > What third party application for Microsoft Windows Server (notF workstation client) can map an OpenVMS directory as NFS to the server?) We are not limited to NFS for a solution. 3 We want a database to be able to see the directory.  Attunity? Pathworks? ... ?  
 Thank you.E Jim Strehlow, Data911, OpenVMS Systems and Database Manager, Alameda,  CA, USAn   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:01:42 -0700 * From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com>I Subject: Re: Third party Windows App to NFS map OpenVMS to Windows ServerR2 Message-ID: <6YOdncsGq8zKDgnfRVn-gw@mpowercom.net>  + <JimStrehlow@data911.com> wrote in message a= news:1117028296.031261.145470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... @ > What third party application for Microsoft Windows Server (notH > workstation client) can map an OpenVMS directory as NFS to the server? >iM Have you looked at Microsoft's Unix Services for Windows (SFU)?  You can use iI it as a gateway on a Windows server to expose NFS directories as Windows lJ shares, so that workstations don't need an NFS client.  I've used it with ) the VMS Tcpip version of NFS in the past.e   Jack Peacock u   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.290 ************************