1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 29 May 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 298       Contents: Re: ABC problem with disk  Re: ABC problem with disk ? Are the sys$icc_* services being replaced/rewritten for Itanium C Re: Are the sys$icc_* services being replaced/rewritten for Itanium P Re: HELP! Serious Alpha Image Activation problem. Symbol Resolution - No errors P Re: HELP! Serious Alpha Image Activation problem. Symbol Resolution - No errors + OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks / Re: OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks ) Re: The 23rd DCL script - A user's prayer % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation) % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation) % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation) % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation) % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation) % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation) % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation) % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation) % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation) % Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:40:40 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> " Subject: Re: ABC problem with disk0 Message-ID: <119jl1vf0jfedc3@corp.supernews.com>   David J Dachtera wrote:  > John Santos wrote: >  >>David J Dachtera wrote:  >>	 >>>[snip] K >>>If this ABC thing is malfunctioning, it hardly qualifies as either safe, D >>>proper or supported (by OpenVMS Engineering). If the vendor can'tF >>>support it either, well, does the word "pray" mean anything to you? >>E >>"Not Supported" and "Not supported by HP" are two entirely distinct  >>concepts.  >  > F > Agreed. And these days, finding a vendor who can provide support forG > their product on VMS on a par with support for their product on other & > platforms borders on the impossible. >  > : >>Everyone is always complaining about lack of third partyH >>software on VMS, and here you are saying "if it's not VMS Engineering, >>it's gotta go!"  >  >  > You understand why, yes? > F > In case you don't (and judging from your tone you might not), let me
 > explain. > 5 > Consider the "chosen niche" for OpenVMS these days.  > H > Now, consider whether that is a market that can tolerate anything lessG > than 110% support. (Healthcare (life critical), finance (billions, if + > not trillions of dollars at stake), etc.)  >   > Are there any other questions?  H Maybe it's not HP that's to blame for the lack of third party software. H   Perhaps it's the attitude of some users that's to blame.  Why ask for H third party software if you won't purchase it and use it?  Burn vendors F in this manner a few times, then don't be surprised if they refuse to  provide software for VMS.   E I could list more than a few such instances, including the statement  ; "I'll never buy support from you, you're too small to sue".   < I'm too disgusted to say more without becoming very abusive.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 17:20:28 +0200 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>" Subject: Re: ABC problem with disk+ Message-ID: <3fu4t3F9kbbgU1@individual.net>    Doc. wrote:   + > %NEWS-I-NEWMSG, David J Dachtera wrote in % > news:4298D11C.F9109407@comcast.net   > H > <snip - missing bit, build VMS system disk to restore VMS system disk> > G >>Precisely why such products can't cut it in the VMS market niche: you H >>have to restore the system before you can restore the system. Too muchH >>delay, too much man-power requirement, too many interdependencies, too >>many things to go wrong, ... >  > K > Are any other systems significantly different?  When you want to compare  H > to Windows, what do they do for the zillion dollar datacenter version? > L > As far as I'm aware, any OS requires you boot some version or other of it K > to restore a system disk.  Where I see VMS winning is that I could write  E > instructions on one side of a sheet of paper and the janitor could   > restore the system disk. >   E Taking that further, there's nothing to stop you building a separate  F bootable volume which has just enough (3rd party backup/restore apps, G networking software and configuration, diags, whatever) to restore the   system disk directly.    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:09:44 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> H Subject: Are the sys$icc_* services being replaced/rewritten for Itanium? Message-ID: <d7cbe8$3p5$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>    Hi,   K It is my understanding that these services were bound fairly closely to the H Alpha architecture. (No more than 6 arguments to maximize register usage, etc) Will there be new versions for Itanium?   Regards Richard Maher    ------------------------------    Date: 29 May 2005 07:27:32 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) L Subject: Re: Are the sys$icc_* services being replaced/rewritten for Itanium3 Message-ID: <kAX0YZZ1u3lJ@eisner.encompasserve.org>   u In article <d7cbe8$3p5$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:  > Hi,  > M > It is my understanding that these services were bound fairly closely to the J > Alpha architecture. (No more than 6 arguments to maximize register usage. > etc) Will there be new versions for Itanium?  A Since the services are the same on VAX and Alpha, why should they  be different on Itanium ?    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:22:32 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> Y Subject: Re: HELP! Serious Alpha Image Activation problem. Symbol Resolution - No errors  ? Message-ID: <d7c8ln$q89$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>    Hi,   / "Hein" <hein.nomail@hp.nomail> wrote in message & news:42966278$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com... > @ > "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote in message; > news:d76fuv$7sm$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...  > > Hi Hein, > >  >  :5 > > Which way does it work on Itanium? . . . Anybody?  > D > I was serious about the test drive drive system reference earlier:J > Should be easy enough to get an account, send me mail if you fail to get an > accoutn readily.L > Current testdrive system lineup: http://www.testdrive.hp.com/current.shtmlI > System of interest to you: HP OpenVMS 8.2 - Integrity rx16202 - Itanium  II, # > 1.6 GHz - spe183.testdrive.hp.com   E Yeah, sorry about that Hein. As soon as I replied I thought that your K reference might be for an Itanium box. Comes in very handy for testing this K stuff but I can't do alot without privs :-( "How 'bout a 3 strikes and your I out!" policy with privileges? If I crash the box (unnecessarily) or trash ; the System Disk three times then they take your privs away?    > L > > Therefore, I submit to you that this is a supported VMS feature that is, > > in fact, broken.E > > (Or more likely/hopefully, I'm using the wrong Linker Options and  > > Qualifiers)  > L > It could be,. I'll poke the current linker devo, solicitating comments. No	 > promiss J > However, as you (and I) are more and more leaning towards a bug, you mayK > want to raise an official support, at least to improve the documentation.   ) I'll respond to your other reply on this.    > G > >> As there a particular reason why you can not have 'test1' directly  > >> reference 'share1'? > > K > > YES. Share1 contains User Written System Services that I do not wish to  beL > > made available to Test1. The RMS protection on SHARE1 is set to (W:E) toA > > prevent a User linking to it. Whereas SHARE2 is set to (W:RE)  >  > Ah! Now he tells us.  L My code's obviously a lot more complicated than this example. In hind sight,. probably more complicated than it needs to be.  8 > That could be a good reason, but I am not smart enough" > to think it through all the way.J > It smells like security through obscurity but I may well be wrong there.  B You are wrong, and I raise you 3 Sheep Stations and an Oil Rig :-)   >  > Hein.  >  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:27:01 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> Y Subject: Re: HELP! Serious Alpha Image Activation problem. Symbol Resolution - No errors  ? Message-ID: <d7c8u4$s5u$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>    Hi Hein,  / "Hein" <hein.nomail@hp.nomail> wrote in message & news:42968806$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com... > @ > "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote in message; > news:d74vjt$iaf$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...  > + > > <dooleys@snowy.net.au> wrote in message A > > news:1117105026.434787.304940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... 5 > >> link /map is your friend in situations like this 	 > >> Phil  > :  > > Hi Phil, > > J > > Thanks for your insight. (You sound a lot like me teaching my kids how to7 > > ride a bike. "The left brake is your best friend!")  > : # > << unwarranted ranting removed >>   I Yes, it was unwarranted and I appologise to Phil (wouldn't know him if he D stood up in my corn flakes) and others whom I've abused in the past,L unreservedly. But for the benefit of those that don't know me (and yet stillI care), I'm prone to this sort of venting. Nothin' I can can do about, and L saying "sorry" just loses its currency in the face of my rampant recidivism.H (I just get this rush of blood to the fingers :-) So ignore me, abuse me back, whatever works.   E And yes, I know that in the past I've burned bridges (even before I'd G crossed them) but what can you do? I certainly didn't plan it that way.   ; Anyway, it's been emotional! Let's all hug and move on. . .    > H > As Phil hinted at, the MAP file for SHARE2 ultimately explains what is going  > on.   K Honest to God, I *did* look at the map files and saw the bad news. I needed  to know why it was bad.    > / > Here is the semi-official engineering answer.  > ------------J > From the Alpha point of view, the example is trying to export items from" > SHARE2 that SHARE2 does not own.K > From the maps, one can see that the psect, GLOBAL_VAR, in SHARE2 has been  > overlaid onto SHARE1. B > SHARE2 does not own this psect anymore; that space is in SHARE1.J > SHARE2 has a fixup for this to indicate that GLOBAL_VAR is at %x20000 in	 > SHARE1. J > When the export occurred in SHARE2, the %x20000 is the value that SHARE2; > knows about, but TEST1 linked against SHARE2, not SHARE1. F > Therefore, TEST1 received a fixup but it was for %x20000 in *SHARE2* (which > is a code section). J > Similarly, MY_SYM is known and global in SHARE2, but was not exported by the ) > linker because it was data from SHARE1. L > What is suggested to be a supported feature on VAX that is broken on Alpha< > may actually be a bug on VAX that has been fixed on Alpha.   FABULOUS STUFF!!!   J These are the explanations one dreams about when faced with a problem likeH this. Thanks to those involved! Unfortunately, for me, it's all bad newsJ :-( Still, I was never 100% happy with that code, and it has suffered from8 bit-rot over the years so maybe it's time to revisit it.  J Having said that, it would have been a good idea to have told people aboutI this change in the porting guide/linker manual somewhere. (Maybe I missed  it?)  J > The Alpha linker should report this type of re-exporting, but that would > require a problem report.   I Would seen only reasonable don't you think? I checked on IA64 and you get D UPSCNOCONTRI. (Not as good a the Symbol one which was something like	 NOEXPORT)   K > The I64 linker does report re-exporting symbols (not sure about psections  > though, but I think so)   	 See above   L > To avoid  linking against entry points to the user-written system service,. > consider to make those entry points private. > ------------  G First I'd heard of 'em (Am familiar with Global/Local terminology. Same G thing?) so I looked up the PRIVATE_PROCEDURE option in the SYMBOL_TABLE K syntax. Is that it? This looks good, but surely implicit in your suggestion L is that I combine the two shareables (Share1 and Share2 in this case) into aJ single shareable image with hidden/private and global/public entry points.  E (Actually, I like the terminology. The two real shareables are called  T3$PRIVATE and T3$PUBLIC)   B The other thing that looks like the Mut's Nuts to me is the /NOGSTG qualifier! The pragmatist in me is saying that after building all of my K executables that need to link to T3$PRIVATE, I can ship a /NOGST version to L stop others thinking against it with no loss of run-time functionality. (AndL having rethunked you earlier suggestion Hein, I AM able to solve the problemG by linking to BOTH shareables directly. But in the middle term the code  should be rewritten anyway.)   >  > Hope this helps,   Much appreciated!   
 > Regards, > Hein.  >    Cheers Richard Maher   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:14:07 +1000 # From: "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate> 4 Subject: OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks/ Message-ID: <4299a3fa$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>    Hi All  J OpenVMS Management Station 3.2C talking to OVMSAlpha 7.1 - can manage and H display everything except for storage.  Trying to display storage gives 3 TNT-I-EMPTYSET, nothing satisfied the given filter.   L OK, the filter is set to device name = * and trying all the other options = I * produces the same result.  Can use telnet to monitor/mount/unmount the   disks which look like this:   M Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans   Mnt M  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count   Cnt . VAX$DQA0:               Online               0M VAX$DQA1:               Mounted              0  ALPHASYS      33548148   247   1 . VAX$DQB0:               Online               0. VAX$DQB1:               Online               0. VAX$DVA0:               Online               0  @ So, can't even see the system disk using the management station!   Any thoughts appreciated.    TIA    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 13:20:09 -0400 $ From: "Chris" <an.other@not_here.ca>8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks8 Message-ID: <JUmme.2776$yG4.89569@news20.bellglobal.com>  - First thing is to run the TNT update utility:   ) $ @sys$manager:TNT$UTILITY UPDATE STORAGE   8 Then make sure you have started the TNT server properly:    $  @sys$startup:TNT$STARTUP BOOT  9 Never had any troubles one this was completed on a system    Chris   . "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate> wrote in message) news:4299a3fa$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...  > Hi All > K > OpenVMS Management Station 3.2C talking to OVMSAlpha 7.1 - can manage and I > display everything except for storage.  Trying to display storage gives 5 > TNT-I-EMPTYSET, nothing satisfied the given filter.  > K > OK, the filter is set to device name = * and trying all the other options  = J > * produces the same result.  Can use telnet to monitor/mount/unmount the > disks which look like this:  > G > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans  > Mnt H >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count  > Cnt 0 > VAX$DQA0:               Online               0H > VAX$DQA1:               Mounted              0  ALPHASYS      33548148 247  > 1 0 > VAX$DQB0:               Online               00 > VAX$DQB1:               Online               00 > VAX$DVA0:               Online               0 > B > So, can't even see the system disk using the management station! >  > Any thoughts appreciated.  >  > TIA  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:54:37 +0200 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>2 Subject: Re: The 23rd DCL script - A user's prayer+ Message-ID: <3fte9mF9g0v3U1@individual.net>    Stephen Eickhoff wrote:    > Jeff Cameron wrote:  >  >> The 23rd DCL Script >>  % >> The System Manager is my Sheppard,  >  >  > Who is this "Sheppard" guy?    Presumably:   . http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4322727.stm  D "The former Bishop of Liverpool and ex-England cricket captain Lord 
 Sheppard ..."    > & >>           I shall not want SETPRIV.0 >> He maketh me run my programs in paged memory.2 >> He leadeth me to the low priority batch queues. >> He restoreth my files. 0 >> He leadeth me into the file paths of Files-11$ >>           for logical names sake. >>  , >> Yeah though I browse through the internet# >>           in the shadow of UNIX, . >> I will fear no hacker, for VMS art with me.2 >> Thy Control-Y and thy Dollar prompt comfort me., >> Thou preparest a group-logical name table1 >>           in the presence of thy fellow users.  >> Thou annointest my process " >>           with TMPMBX & NETMBX.% >> My Virtual Pagecount runneth over.  >>  F >> Surely diskquota and available CPU shall follow my computing needs,* >> And I will dwell in the SYSUAF forever. >>   >>  	 >> Cmkrnl  >> >> By Jeff Cameron >>   ------------------------------    Date: 29 May 2005 01:06:26 -0700 From: anuj.goyal@gmail.com. Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)B Message-ID: <1117353986.276022.51500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>  D after 2 days on this sytem I am very very impressed, rock solid (theG way an OS should be).  the DCL syntax does take some getting used to... ; is there a rosetta stone for win32, unix, openvms commands?   ! http://www.openvms-rocks.com/Help   D this page is useful, but what I really need is a rosetta stone, I amG quite familiar with win32 and unix, once I have the rosetta stone, I am 4 sure I will be pretty proficient on openvms as well.  G right now I am logged into GEIN, but I am having problems accessing the 
 cxx compiler.    GEIN $ cxx/verE %DCL-W-IVQUAL, unrecognized qualifier - check validity, spelling, and 	 placement   \VER\
 GEIN $ cxx5 %CXXLNK-E-NODATABASE, No demangler database was found @ %CXXLNK-E-FAILURE, Program terminated prior to normal completion GEIN $ sho sys/noproc @ OpenVMS V7.3-1  on node GEIN  29-MAY-2005 04:04:55.12  Uptime  1 12:32:32   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 08:14:27 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing). Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)6 Message-ID: <00A44774.388A7A0A@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  _ In article <1117353986.276022.51500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, anuj.goyal@gmail.com writes: E >after 2 days on this sytem I am very very impressed, rock solid (the H >way an OS should be).  the DCL syntax does take some getting used to...< >is there a rosetta stone for win32, unix, openvms commands? > " >http://www.openvms-rocks.com/Help > E >this page is useful, but what I really need is a rosetta stone, I am H >quite familiar with win32 and unix, once I have the rosetta stone, I am5 >sure I will be pretty proficient on openvms as well.   L I think you might still be able to get the "Unix for VMS Users" book (PhilipK Bourne, Digital Press), which you'd have to use kind of backwards to be the I rosetta stone you're looking for.  I think they were working on a second  . edition but I haven't seen that it's come out.  7 However, that wouldn't help with C++ compiler problems.    > H >right now I am logged into GEIN, but I am having problems accessing the >cxx compiler. >  >GEIN $ cxx/ver F >%DCL-W-IVQUAL, unrecognized qualifier - check validity, spelling, and
 >placement > \VER\  >GEIN $ cxx 6 >%CXXLNK-E-NODATABASE, No demangler database was foundA >%CXXLNK-E-FAILURE, Program terminated prior to normal completion  >GEIN $ sho sys/noprocA >OpenVMS V7.3-1  on node GEIN  29-MAY-2005 04:04:55.12  Uptime  1 	 >12:32:32    Try   
 $ HELP CXX  N But I think there may be some installation problem.  For what you tried, I get
 $ cxx /ver( DEC C++ V5.6-013 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 $ cxx  _File:     So I'm thinking you should do    $ SHO SYM CXX*   and see what you get.    -- Alan    >    ------------------------------   Date: 29 May 2005 08:20:40 GMT$ From: "Doc." <doc@openvms-rocks.com>. Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)7 Message-ID: <Xns9665696D35207dcovmsrox@212.100.160.126>   6 %NEWS-I-NEWMSG,  wrote in news:1117353986.276022.51500 @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com    <snip>  I > right now I am logged into GEIN, but I am having problems accessing the  > cxx compiler.   F I'll take a look at that later today.  GEIN is our new node that Dave I Turner donated and we're still working on getting it properly integrated   into the cluster.      Doc. --  G OpenVMS:     Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems. G http://www.openvms-rocks.com    Deathrow Public-Access OpenVMS Cluster.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:12:51 +0200 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>. Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)+ Message-ID: <3ftfbsF9ivqfU1@individual.net>    Doc. wrote:   8 > %NEWS-I-NEWMSG,  wrote in news:1117353986.276022.51500 > @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com  >  > <snip> > I >>right now I am logged into GEIN, but I am having problems accessing the  >>cxx compiler.  >  > H > I'll take a look at that later today.  GEIN is our new node that Dave K > Turner donated and we're still working on getting it properly integrated   > into the cluster.  >  >    Doc,  3 Looking at GEIN, it looks like CXX isn't installed:     From another system:    $ dir sys$system:cxx*    Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]   6 CXX$COMPILER.EXE;1  CXX$DEMANGLE.EXE;2  CXX$LINK.EXE;1       From GEIN:    GEIN $ dir sys$system:cxx*   Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]    CXX$DEMANGLE.EXE;1  / Also searching on the respective VERB listings:    $ sea verb.lis _String(s): cxx  define verb CXX      image CXX$COMPILER     image CXX$COMPILER define verb CXXDEMANGLE      image CXX$DEMANGLE define verb CXXLINK      image CXX$LINK2     qualifier VERSION, syntax=CXXLINK_VERSION_ONLY" define syntax CXXLINK_VERSION_ONLY     image CXX$LINK   GEIN $ search verb.lis cxx define verb CXXDEMANGLE      image CXX$DEMANGLE   ------------------------------   Date: 29 May 2005 10:27:32 GMT$ From: "Doc." <doc@openvms-rocks.com>. Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)7 Message-ID: <Xns96657ED2F2421dcovmsrox@212.100.160.126>   F %NEWS-I-NEWMSG, Paul Sture wrote in news:3ftfbsF9ivqfU1@individual.net  
 > Doc. wrote:   H >> I'll take a look at that later today.  GEIN is our new node that Dave@ >> Turner donated and we're still working on getting it properly >> integrated into the cluster.   5 > Looking at GEIN, it looks like CXX isn't installed:   I I suspected it was that, or an aborted install.  I've got C++ 6.3 and am  F transferring it now.  However I was sure a more recent version of the B compiler was available for download.  Is that just the C compiler?     Doc. --  G OpenVMS:     Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems. G http://www.openvms-rocks.com    Deathrow Public-Access OpenVMS Cluster.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:39:51 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>. Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)B Message-ID: <42999bf8$0$25671$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>   anuj.goyal@gmail.com wrote: F > after 2 days on this sytem I am very very impressed, rock solid (theI > way an OS should be).  the DCL syntax does take some getting used to... = > is there a rosetta stone for win32, unix, openvms commands?   G DJE Systems DECUS Presentations - see the DCL Programming presentations " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  C OpenVMS and Digital UNIX Interoperability and Migration Guide - PDF . http://www.hmi.de/it/software/unix/vmsunix.pdf  I OpenVMS Porting Guide - Porting open source (UNIX) software to OpenVMS -   by Martin Borgman - PDF F http://www.oooovms.dyndns.org/reference/OpenVMS_Porting_Guide_v031.pdf2 OpenVMS Porting Guide Forum - www.4ovms.dyndns.org3 http://www.4ovms.dyndns.org/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=2   # OpenVMS UNIX Portability Initiative & http://h71000.www7.hp.com/portability/C OpenVMS UNIX Portability Initiative - UNIX Tools and Utilities: GNV . http://h71000.www7.hp.com/portability/gnv.html& Porting Library - Unix to OpenVMS Code; http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/porting.html    VMS to Linux HOWTO1 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/VMS-to-Linux-HOWTO.html * VMS to Unix and Linux Migration Strategies5 http://www.bo.infn.it/alice/alice-doc/mll-doc/migvms/       *Unix to OpenVMS Rosetta Stones*  1 Unix to VMS command cross reference - MPI Physics 8 http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/vmsdoc/UNIX_VMS_CMD_XREF.HTML? http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/vmsdoc/VMS-UNIX_CMD-EQUIVALENTS.HTML   > UNIX - VMS Translation Table - think-forward - Wayback MachineX http://web.archive.org/web/20041015083101/http://www.think-forward.com/tips/Ivmsunix.htm  % UNIX commands for VMS Pros! - MS Word 8 http://vmspros.freeservers.com/unix_openvms_commands.doc  H Unix Commands for VMS Users - Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory (PPPL); http://nstx.pppl.gov/nstx/Software/FAQ/unixforvmsusers.html   9 Unix hints for GCG VMS users - UC Davis - Wayback Machine h http://web.archive.org/web/20030120030145/http://scs.ucdavis.edu/Services/ConsultSoftware/vmstounix.html  + VMS -> UNIX Commands - U of Hamburg Physnet @ http://www.physnet.uni-hamburg.de/physnet/vms-unix-commands.html  9 VMS and Unix Commands Equivalents - WMU - Wayback Machine V http://web.archive.org/web/20040707215035/http://www.wmich.edu/ssc/spss/vmstounix.html   VMS Basics - MIT Bates3 http://mitbates.mit.edu/oops/Html/SW/VMSBasics.html   . Vms to Unix - Boston College - Wayback Machine http://tinylink.com/?NpCaDjLNhy   ( VMS for Unix Users: Unix/VMS Translation; http://www2.hmc.edu/www_common/vms/os/vs_unix/unix2vms.html   @ VMS to UNIX Conversion Guide -  Mullard Space Science Laboratory= http://www.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/www_computing/buns/vms_to_unix.html    VMS to UNIX Translation 3 http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/unixhelp/VMStoUNIX.html   9 VMS to UNIX Translation - unixpower.org - Wayback Machine V http://web.archive.org/web/20031210081550/http://unixpower.org/unixhelp/VMStoUNIX.html  ! VMS versus Unix commands - Purdue 0 http://www.genomics.purdue.edu/gcg/vms-unix.html  6 VMS vs. UNIX Commands - Hebrew University of Jerusalem< http://www3.huji.ac.il/htbin/huji/marker.pl/2483/?words=VMS,  5 VMS-to-Unix Phrase Book - University of New Hampshire 1 http://www.unh.edu/cis/docs/vms-to-unix/Articles/      Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 06:29:51 -0400 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> . Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)5 Message-ID: <RQgme.26$yG4.5004@news20.bellglobal.com>   ( <anuj.goyal@gmail.com> wrote in message < news:1117353986.276022.51500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...F > after 2 days on this sytem I am very very impressed, rock solid (theI > way an OS should be).  the DCL syntax does take some getting used to... = > is there a rosetta stone for win32, unix, openvms commands?  > # > http://www.openvms-rocks.com/Help  > F > this page is useful, but what I really need is a rosetta stone, I amI > quite familiar with win32 and unix, once I have the rosetta stone, I am 6 > sure I will be pretty proficient on openvms as well. > 1 This page contains a few links that may help out.   < http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/vms_vs_unix.html#Links  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.9 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html     ------------------------------   Date: 29 May 2005 13:38:23 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon). Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)+ Message-ID: <3ftuufF9jplhU1@individual.net>   B In article <1117353986.276022.51500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, 	anuj.goyal@gmail.com writes: F > after 2 days on this sytem I am very very impressed, rock solid (theI > way an OS should be).  the DCL syntax does take some getting used to... = > is there a rosetta stone for win32, unix, openvms commands?  > # > http://www.openvms-rocks.com/Help  > F > this page is useful, but what I really need is a rosetta stone, I amI > quite familiar with win32 and unix, once I have the rosetta stone, I am 6 > sure I will be pretty proficient on openvms as well. >   E I know I have spoken of this before, but with all this continued talk F of needing Unix API compatability has anyone (other than me, that is!)C ever considered reviving the Software Tool Virtual Operating System  project?  C With a target like POSIX to shoot for today it seems that it is yet E another idea that was ahead of it's time who's time has finally come.   C (Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here with enough experience C with Eunice to know if they had an emulated "fork"?  I haven't seen D Eunice for over 25 years and can't begin to remember any of the realB details. Although I do still have a Eunice tape hanging in my tape locker!)   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 29 May 2005 13:41:38 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon). Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)+ Message-ID: <3ftv4iF9jplhU2@individual.net>   6 In article <00A44774.388A7A0A@ssrl.slac.stanford.edu>,O 	winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) writes: a > In article <1117353986.276022.51500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, anuj.goyal@gmail.com writes: F >>after 2 days on this sytem I am very very impressed, rock solid (theI >>way an OS should be).  the DCL syntax does take some getting used to... = >>is there a rosetta stone for win32, unix, openvms commands?  >># >>http://www.openvms-rocks.com/Help  >>F >>this page is useful, but what I really need is a rosetta stone, I amI >>quite familiar with win32 and unix, once I have the rosetta stone, I am 6 >>sure I will be pretty proficient on openvms as well. > N > I think you might still be able to get the "Unix for VMS Users" book (Philip > Bourne, Digital Press),   G Actually, I think that is user commands only and not the API.  I have a F copy around here somewhere.  And there was also a book going the other way at one time.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 08:43:04 -0500 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>. Subject: Re: VMS API (possible unix emulation)D Message-ID: <craigberry-BD033A.08430329052005@news.isp.giganews.com>  7 In article <Xns96657ED2F2421dcovmsrox@212.100.160.126>, &  "Doc." <doc@openvms-rocks.com> wrote:  H > %NEWS-I-NEWMSG, Paul Sture wrote in news:3ftfbsF9ivqfU1@individual.net >   7 > > Looking at GEIN, it looks like CXX isn't installed:  > K > I suspected it was that, or an aborted install.  I've got C++ 6.3 and am  H > transferring it now.  However I was sure a more recent version of the D > compiler was available for download.  Is that just the C compiler?  6 ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/produ cts/C-CXX/openvms/cxx/    Looks like 6.5-046 is current.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.298 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Xx YWKa"@FWELpa
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