1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 31 May 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 301       Contents:P (",) Print This! Press [Ctrl][P] Keys To Print... >> http://www.phpbbserver.com/P Re: (",) Print This! Press [Ctrl][P] Keys To Print... >> http://www.phpbbserver. Re: ABC problem with disk  Re: ABC problem with disk  Re: ABC problem with disk  Re: DEFRAG ovms 7.3-2 3 Don't bother replying to spammers, they don't read.   Make Thousands of Dollars easily Re: MultiHead issue on AS400 Re: MultiHead issue on AS400/ Re: OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks / Re: OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks / Re: OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks 1 Re: two TCPIP cluster aliases in the same cluster 1 Re: two TCPIP cluster aliases in the same cluster   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 30 May 2005 13:05:20 -0700 From: compaq71127@yahoo.com Y Subject: (",) Print This! Press [Ctrl][P] Keys To Print... >> http://www.phpbbserver.com/ C Message-ID: <1117483520.502644.228840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   4 (",) Print This! Press [Ctrl][P] Keys To Print... >>H http://www.phpbbserver.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=anysubjectchatG < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < G < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < G < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < + < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < <    ------------------------------    Date: 30 May 2005 14:37:27 -0700 From: brazos1289@netscape.net Y Subject: Re: (",) Print This! Press [Ctrl][P] Keys To Print... >> http://www.phpbbserver. B Message-ID: <1117489047.769315.24270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  	 Dear sir,   D      Stop being such a pissant, if people want to be saved they willE be. I truthfully am my own person, and i believe that there is a god, E but i also believe that you have managed to warp the idea of a god to D such a degree, you live your life in fanatacism, you most likely areC part of numerous church groups, and live your life only coming into C contact with those who share your same fanatacism, also, you are so E concerned about your after life that you neglect taking time to enjoy G the one you have, i can understand religious people, i can repect their C beliefs, but what i cant respect are those who are sooo introverted F into and upon their god that they try to force it upon others, as well; as their belief system about god. i mean, if the catholics, D prodastants, and methodists would just give up their differences and@ agree to tackle the bigger problem rather than squabling amongstG themselves, then they would be able to accomplish so much more. oh, and A on a side note, as for your almight god, look at the past, read a F direct translation of the koran, it is the only holy book that has allG 12 of the gospels, try reading the gospel of timothy, it, and the other E 7 gospels arent found in the bibel because these gospels, rather than G acknowledging jesus as a god, and a figure above men, it recognizes him G as a wise man, a man with insight, and recognizes his religion as a way E for the people to better themselves. another little tidbit for you is B that the man known as buddah, jesus, and mithra (roman, mithradic,D greek, and babalonian) were all born within 50 years of one another,G and for the firs century everything went great, all their teaching were G rather close together, but then the vatacan and some weirdo's got their E hands on their teachings, from this the christianity and judaic split D occured, the mithradic cults were formed, and the teaching of buddahB were split into what would later influence confucianism, hinduism,@ buddhism, the torah, koran, and various other eastern religions.  G in closing, please, before you go off to convert others and try to take E them to your circle of religion, please, know the history of your own D damn religion well enough to debate it rather than following it withG blind faith, because after all, blind faith is what has caused needless C blood shed, and is the most dangerous thing of all, for when you no F longer posess your wits and decisions, you become nothing more than an3 atomaton droid, souless, and without value of life.    ------------------------------    Date: 30 May 2005 13:29:47 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) " Subject: Re: ABC problem with disk3 Message-ID: <wdfxKmW4eykw@eisner.encompasserve.org>   p In article <MPG.1d048ade19065309896f3@news.bellatlantic.net>, John Santos <john.santos@post.harvard.edu> writes:   > I > Bull.  The delay in acquiring a new site, signing the rental agreement, H > installing A/C, electricity, etc. etc., specing, locating, purchasing,G > delivering, installing (hardware) a replacement system totally swamps D > the few extra hours to rebuild the system disk this way.  It's notF > like there is a wide-area cluster or even a hot backup system acrossB > town.  Are they willing to live with this tradeoff?  Apparently.A > If they weren't, they'd be running a disaster-tolerant cluster, ' > with a remotely shadowed system disk.  > D > In real life, they would probably be unhappy if a catastrophe took9 > out the system for a week, but they could live with it.  > E > There are vastly more systems out there for which this is true than  > there are for which it isn't.  > G > They have saved enormous personnel costs by using a common, networked D > backup strategy.  (It's totally automated from our end.  There areD > of course people running the backup server(s), but their effort is@ > shared by dozens, even hundreds of systems.  15 minutes/day toB > retrieve, mount, dismount, label, and put away 3 tapes/day (veryA > optimistic estimate of labor required to do local tape backups) ? > 6 days/week, 52 weeks/year adds up fast.  And we can retrieve G > anything from the last 6 months (and they do it fairly often) without C > having to hang a tape.  This has paid for itself many times over, @ > even if we had to rebuild a system disk the hard way once in a& > while (which we've never had to do.) >    John,   7 	You are wasting your breath.  You've been part of this = 	discussion 3 years ago.  It went down the same rathole then.   W http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/msg/104412f6a8d169a6?dmode=source&hl=en    	Back and forth back and forth:   W http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/msg/e33d1650ad129fba?dmode=source&hl=en   H 	Fact is, ABC works and works well.  The Strawman is "bare metal restore 	system disk".  There > 	is a supported way to do a bare-metal restore, its convulutedA 	and if push came to shove would probably take an additional hour  	or so to perform. 	  				Rob    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:56:16 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>" Subject: Re: ABC problem with disk+ Message-ID: <429BB630.C80B4DF3@comcast.net>    Dave Froble wrote: >  > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > Dave Froble wrote: > > 
 > >>[snip]K > >>Maybe it's not HP that's to blame for the lack of third party software. K > >>  Perhaps it's the attitude of some users that's to blame.  Why ask for = > >>third party software if you won't purchase it and use it?  > >  > > I > > Much of the debate here centers on the source of such attitudes among K > > users and vendors alike. The lack of VMS promotion has certainly gone a I > > long way toward convincing users that choosing VMS could be a "career  > > limiting" move.  > > H > > It's hard to "point the finger" at the users or vendors without also3 > > pointing at their motivation, or lack there of.  >  > You're changing the subject.      Not really. Stay with me here...  , > You're responding to a post that basicallyG > said "If users won't buy third party software, maybe they are some of 3 > the reason vendors don't write software for VMS."   H ...and why are users so reluctant to go third party? (Hint: The reason I6 have in mind is associated with the word "marketing".)  J > One simple case, hope Glenn doesn't mind.  Glenn Everhart wrote a rather# > useful piece of system software.    D Wish you would have cited the specific example to which you refer. AF *LOT* of third-party stuff that "used to was" is no longer relevent in today's market.   & > Couldn't sell it.  Users wanted suchI > capabilities from DEC, but wouldn't buy/use a third party product.  The H > real irony, (unless I have my facts mixed up) Glenn at one time worked# > for DEC writing similar software.   9 ..which again points to Mar... Come now, *MUST* I say it?    > >>Burn vendorsI > >>in this manner a few times, then don't be surprised if they refuse to  > >>provide software for VMS.  > >  > > I > > Same comment. Vendors and users alike see little future for VMS, even > > > less for Alpha and no reason at all to see any for Itanic. > > J > > Very few vendors engage in extensive philathropy. So, I don't see thisL > > situation improving without some powerful, positive stimulus in the formL > > of a massive, all-out, "balls to the wall" promotional campaign focusing* > > on VMS and it's host platform du jour. > I > It's not vendors I was talking about.  It was users who won't patronize  > small third party vendors.  E The market and the players cannot be divorced that way. No market, no  players. No players, no market.   H > >>I could list more than a few such instances, including the statement? > >>"I'll never buy support from you, you're too small to sue".  > >>@ > >>I'm too disgusted to say more without becoming very abusive. > >  > > L > > Hopefully not toward me personally. Sure, I do my fair share of grousingI > > and then some, but if anyone can say what I personally can do to trun @ > > VMS's fortunes around without HP's assistance, I'm all ears. > >  > I > Not toward anyone.  I gave up on 'packaged' software for VMS years ago. J >   No market.  The users want VMS engineering to provide everything.  The; > users want cheaper VMS.  The users get what they deserve.   C I believe there are still some examples of VMS-based software being E developed and supported by third parties, but sold and distributed by  (the successor to) "DEC" (HP).  E The users want *AFFORDABLE* VMS - *VERY* important distinction there: D "cheap" is usually associated with low quality, "affordable" usuallyF refers to a higher-end product packaged for accessibility by a broader market segment.   E Still, all things considered, VMS is the bastard child because no one H wants to give the market what it demands: third-party products possessed< of the hallmarks they have come to expect from OpenVMS, at aG cost-to-acquire that doesn't put the bean counters into cardiac arrest.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:04:30 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>" Subject: Re: ABC problem with disk+ Message-ID: <429BB81E.5BF05CE6@comcast.net>    John Santos wrote: > G > In article <4298D11C.F9109407@comcast.net>, djesys.nospam@comcast.net 	 > says...  > > John Santos wrote: > > >  > > > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > > > [snip]P > > > > If this ABC thing is malfunctioning, it hardly qualifies as either safe,I > > > > proper or supported (by OpenVMS Engineering). If the vendor can't K > > > > support it either, well, does the word "pray" mean anything to you?  > > > I > > > "Not Supported" and "Not supported by HP" are two entirely distinct  > > > concepts.  > > H > > Agreed. And these days, finding a vendor who can provide support forI > > their product on VMS on a par with support for their product on other ( > > platforms borders on the impossible. > > > > > > Everyone is always complaining about lack of third partyL > > > software on VMS, and here you are saying "if it's not VMS Engineering, > > > it's gotta go!"  > >  > > You understand why, yes? > > H > > In case you don't (and judging from your tone you might not), let me > > explain. > > 7 > > Consider the "chosen niche" for OpenVMS these days.  > > J > > Now, consider whether that is a market that can tolerate anything lessI > > than 110% support. (Healthcare (life critical), finance (billions, if - > > not trillions of dollars at stake), etc.)  > > " > > Are there any other questions? > > C > > > There are several different things called "ABC".  The one I'm  > > > familiar with is > > >  > > > $ abc ? > > > Archive Backup Client for ADSM on OpenVMS, Version V1.2-9 > > > > Copyright 1996-2000, Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. > > > G > > > This is the VMS client for Tivoli Storage Manager (formerly IBM's 4 > > > ADSTAR Distributed Storage Manager, aka ADSM.) > > + > > That's the one I heard of back in 1999.  > > C > > > We use it at one customer site (mandated by their IT people).  > > K > > Some folks know better instinctively. Others have knowledge thrust upon K > > them by experience. Yet others will go to their financial, professional H > > or biological grave feeling proud that they "stood their ground" and( > > resisted learning to the bitter end. > > H > > > Seems to work okay, given that we are pumping all the data throughD > > > a 10Mb VAX ethernet connection (half-duplex.)  Performance wasA > > > sporadicly variable for a long time, but then they did some B > > > tuning on the server side and since then things have been as) > > > fast as we could reasonably expect.  > > > C > > > It's an ancient version, but they are running VMS 7.1 ... ;-)  > > > ; > > > (Due to migrate to an Alpha cluster in a few months.)  > > > C > > > They have a shadowed system disk, but if they ever need to do B > > > a disaster recovery, they'll have to build a new temp systemH > > > disk, minimally with VMS, TCP/IP and ADSM, recover the system diskE > > > backup to the new real system disk, and then restore everything  > > > else.  > > I > > Precisely why such products can't cut it in the VMS market niche: you J > > have to restore the system before you can restore the system. Too muchJ > > delay, too much man-power requirement, too many interdependencies, too  > > many things to go wrong, ... > + > Bull.  The delay in acquiring a new site,    Think: DR hot-site contract"...    > signing the rental agreement, H > installing A/C, electricity, etc. etc., specing, locating, purchasing,G > delivering, installing (hardware) a replacement system totally swamps ; > the few extra hours to rebuild the system disk this way.    ( ...which renders these items non-issues.  
 > It's notF > like there is a wide-area cluster or even a hot backup system acrossB > town.  Are they willing to live with this tradeoff?  Apparently.A > If they weren't, they'd be running a disaster-tolerant cluster, ' > with a remotely shadowed system disk.   E Depends. Communication link costs are still non-trivial line items on ? the budget, unless the company owns its own telecom facilities.   D > In real life, they would probably be unhappy if a catastrophe took9 > out the system for a week, but they could live with it.   	 Depends.     Healthcare? NFW.   Financial exchanges? NFW.   E > There are vastly more systems out there for which this is true than  > there are for which it isn't.   B Really, I thought VMS's market niche was high-availability, highly7 secure, etc., etc. ... Perhaps we've been misninformed.   * > They have saved enormous personnel costs  9 ...and suffer extensive infratsurture over-utilization...    > by using a common, networkedD > backup strategy.  (It's totally automated from our end.  There areD > of course people running the backup server(s), but their effort is@ > shared by dozens, even hundreds of systems.  15 minutes/day toB > retrieve, mount, dismount, label, and put away 3 tapes/day (veryA > optimistic estimate of labor required to do local tape backups) ? > 6 days/week, 52 weeks/year adds up fast.  And we can retrieve G > anything from the last 6 months (and they do it fairly often) without C > having to hang a tape.  This has paid for itself many times over, @ > even if we had to rebuild a system disk the hard way once in a& > while (which we've never had to do.)  G Really? ...and how many petabytes of stored data do you shove over that F 10Gbit Ethernet every night? How many tens of SDLT-320s do you fill up every hour?   . ...or have you not been following this thread?   > > F > > > (They make the ABC equivalent of "BACKUP/IMAGE/IGNORE=INTERLOCK"I > > > every few days at least, and we can manually fix anything that gets I > > > dinged (queue manager files seem most likely, users don't get added I > > > that often, so we can go back a few versions of SYSUAF, etc. if the ; > > > latest backup has a bad one.)  Not ideal, but doable.  > > > L > > > Our app is careful about backups and snapshots things with appropriateD > > > context so the application and database backups are all clean. > > > = > > > I don't know if any of this is at all useful to the OP.  > > > I > > > BTW, ABC's web site is at www.storserver.com.  Look for "STORServer  > > > Clients" in the menus. > > J > > Well, maybe some day, some "third party vendor" will get it right: VMSK > > is the storage+server node, not the client (how many WhineBloze servers I > > have tens, if not hundreds of terabytes - even petabytes - of storage % > > attached or accessible to them?).  > > D > > Yes, it is well known in this forum that I am not only a serious  > > curmudgeon, but a dreamer... > E > I think that most of the other systems using the ADSM backup server F > are HP-UX and Solaris at this site, not Suns.  (There are also otherE > VMS systems that I have nothing to do with and know nothing about.)  > D > Are there better backup servers?  Probably.  Would VMS make a goodB > backup server (with some enormous automated tape library?  Sure.? > But it sounds like you're just spouting off about your biases + > without knowing anything at all about it.   A Hhmmm... Sounds like someone didn't do his homework! Try again...    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:13:09 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com  Subject: Re: DEFRAG ovms 7.3-2- Message-ID: <87is12npju.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   4 David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:  C > He needs to know what he has before he defrags and after, and the D > measured performance of both. Then, and only then, will he know if@ > fragmentation is an issue and worthy of being pursued further.  B Do a SHOW FILE/WINdow and see what size the window blocks are as aF first step. It will only show files that are open, but if they are not open, who cares!  C > The MONITOR utility is helpful for measuring such things as split F > I/Os if he has that problem, as well as window turns, I/O queues and6 > the like. That's where I would start, if I were him.  # Yep, that is step 1.1 on the list.    C VPA was majik for this stuff, and would catch transient problems as  well.   B BTW, you do know you can run DFO with out having to licence it forB full function? I think reports are included in the base functions.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:39:33 -0400 - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> < Subject: Don't bother replying to spammers, they don't read.1 Message-ID: <csidnfUmaPilOQbfRVn-3w@adelphia.com>   " Someone wrote to all these groups: > Dear sir, H [Fortunately most posters already know all of this, but there have been ( quite a few people replying to spammers]  G The spammer(s) are not reading any of the newsgroups being spammed, so  , there is no point trying to respond to them.  I Followups set to VMSNET.test where no one will probably read them unless   they are really bored.  9 If you want to do any thing to inconvenience the spammer.   I Look at the headers in the message and report them to the posting hosts.  H   For posts that are made through Google, and some other free services, = the original I.P. address is usually somewhere in the header.   H These can be looked up and also reported to the abuse address for those D ISPs, but still you are probably not reporting the spammer, but the C zombied computer that the spammer is sending through at the moment.   I A network technician that is competent will not allow a zombie to remain  F connected to their network for more than the length of time needed to C block it at the network hardware because they cause severe network  L overload problems to their paying customers while spam runs are in progress.  C There are several services that will help with looking up the spam  C source and reporting it that are easily found with a search engine.   H Advanced users can look into getting the zombied I.P. address listed in  one or more open proxy lists.    -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------    Date: 30 May 2005 13:37:47 -0700) From: "Cakewalker" <Cakewalker@gmail.com> ) Subject: Make Thousands of Dollars easily C Message-ID: <1117485467.341808.316060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   2 READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE! IT DOES WORK!  F I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. A little whileG back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are now and came G across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of C dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00! So I F thought, 'Yeah right, this must be a scam', but like most of us, I wasG curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each E of the 6 names and address stated in the article. You then place your B own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post theG article in at least 200 newsgroups. There are thousands! No catch, that G was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I E thought about trying it. I figured: 'what have I got to lose except 6 F stamps and $6.00, right?' Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESSC WHAT!?... within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was D shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in.   F In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I@ had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had overC $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I B have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming inD rapidly. It's certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent moreB than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and mostE importantly, WHY it works... Also, make sure you print a copy of this E article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it.   F I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you willG start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so  easy!   @ Suggestion: Read this entire message carefully! (print it out orG download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in!   ? It's easy. It's legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (Plus 	 postage).   ? IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not 1 illegal; and it is 99% no risk - it really works!   E If all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive  extraordinary dividends.   PLEASE NOTE:B Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or more can beF yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of theF honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success* by carefully adhering to the instructions.  E You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business F your product is not solid and tangible, it's a service. You are in theG business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy D to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the money made from theG mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like . you and me asking to be included in that list.  % Here are the 4 easy steps to success:   F STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on eachG piece of paper 'PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.' Now get 6 US $1.00 D bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the billB will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). Next,D place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You shouldC now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the C above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are > doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You areG requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of @ us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal@ aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post OfficeG (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal. Mail the 6 % envelopes to the following addresses:     
 #1) E. Haynes  3629 Edgar St. Hannibal, MO 63401  
 #2) M. Molina  807 Siesta Loop  Robstown, TX 78380   #3) T. Linkous 115 Lee St.  Greenville, NC 27858   #4) E.H. Johnson P.O.Box 409  Clearlake Oaks, CA 95423   #5) L. Johnson 5700 Ridge Club Loop, #302 Orlando, FL 32839   
 #6)J. Wine 4502 Jouster Ct, #203  Orlando, FL 32817     F STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move theF other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list.   D STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article asC close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at D least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 24,000 groups) AllD you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you< make! You won't get very much unless you post like crazy. :)  G This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18 Sec. F 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps forG yourself and, whenever you need money, you can use it again, and again.   C PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the @ honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully> adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are ofF integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many others! have received will come your way.   G NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either B on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you.ThisE VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a F good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.)   E So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, @ six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List? Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list E geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will D be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity forE only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send = it now, add your own name to the list and you're in business!   = ---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------   D Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your ownC posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and G drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy' from C the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer's  memory.   G Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of F the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste aD copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list.   D Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to doG your postings in different settings, you'll always have this file to go  back to.  ? Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for ? various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, 
 discussions.)   A Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new C message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste E from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that > everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in aF particular group, click the post message button. You're done with your= first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is E jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of E it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE C MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE! BUT :YOU C HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin receiving C money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to G rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you D wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the? postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE 
 CORRECT.**  F Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200G postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of E the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make D 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I willF bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around andB post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 repliesF each, I will make an additional $625.00! OK, now here is the fun part,G each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 D and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!!C Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups D with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react IC will receive $15,625,00! With an original investment of only $6.00! C AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the E latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names C on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting  again.  E The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all B over the world are joining the internet and reading these articlesF everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see ifF it really works?? I think so... People have said, 'what if the plan is@ played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are theE chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and F new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups everydayG and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new F users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual internet.= Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:20:13 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com % Subject: Re: MultiHead issue on AS400 - Message-ID: <87ekbqnp82.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   2 spud_demon@e.thundermaker.net (Spud Demon) writes:  E > If it's the slot, look for differences in SRM variables, especially E > graphics-related.  If it's the card, you say you've already checked D > the jumpers, so it might be time to get a new card.  ELSA Gloria's > are pretty reasonable.  1 If it is a GY, it is a TGA or TGA2, not an Elsa!    ? You have checked the switches on the card, and the logicals for  the resolution? For all heads?   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 30 May 2005 14:23:02 -0700' From: "Graham" <grahambayley@gmail.com>h% Subject: Re: MultiHead issue on AS400eC Message-ID: <1117488182.013861.100140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>b  ) Here is the output from the command abovee  ' res of the screen 1 remains at 960x1024.  7 All jumper settings have ben checked and cards swapped. ) Problem seems to be SLOT position relatedH   Graham  7 WSCO12 $ SHOW LOGICAL/ALL/FULL/TABLE=DECW$SERVER*_TABLEe  + (DECW$SERVER0_TABLE)    [exec]  [shareable]eF                         [Protection=(RWCD,RWCD,R,R)]  [Owner=[SYSTEM]]     "DECW$COLOR" [exec] = "TRUE"&   "DECW$DEFAULT_FONT" [exec] = "FIXED"?   "DECW$DEFAULT_KEYBOARD_MAP" [exec] = "NORTH_AMERICAN_LK401AA"-D   "DECW$FONT" [exec] = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.USER_CURSOR32]"2         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.CURSOR32]"7         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.USER_CURSOR16]"p2         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.CURSOR16]"5         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.USER_100DPI]"t0         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.100DPI]"4         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.USER_75DPI]"/         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.75DPI]" 5         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.USER_COMMON]" 0         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.COMMON]"0         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.SPEEDO]"5         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.USER_SPEEDO]" /         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.TYPE1]"-4         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.USER_TYPE1]""   "DECW$KEYBOARD" [exec] = "OPA2:"@   "DECW$KEYMAP" [exec] = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYS$KEYMAP.DECW.USER]"3         = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYS$KEYMAP.DECW.SYSTEM]"c'   "DECW$MONITOR_DENSITY" [exec] = "100"          = "100"a         = "100"l!   "DECW$POINTER" [exec] = "OPA3:" 4   "DECW$RGBPATH" [exec] = "SYS$MANAGER:DECW$RGB.DAT".   "DECW$SERVER_BUG_COMPATIBILITY" [exec] = "Y"(   "DECW$SERVER_CONNECT_LOG" [exec] = "F"6   "DECW$SERVER_DISABLE_BACKING_STORE" [exec] = "FALSE"'   "DECW$SERVER_DISABLE_CH" [exec] = "N"n9   "DECW$SERVER_EXTENSIONS" [exec] = "Adobe-DPS-Extension"s         = "Xie"n         = "DEC-XTRAP"s         = "Multi-Buffering"r         = "X3D-PEX"t         = "glx"n         = "decstereo" '   "DECW$SERVER_SCREENS" [exec] = "GYA0"r         = "GYB0"         = "GYC0"6   "DECW$SERVER_TRANSPORTS" [exec] = "LOCAL" [terminal]         = "DECNET" [terminal]o         = "TCPIP" [terminal]E   "DECW$SVEXT_DPSEXTENSION" [exec] = "DECW$SVEXT_ADOBE_DPS_EXTENSION"a)   "DECW$SYSCOMMON" [exec] = "SYS$SYSROOT"r(   "DECW$XPORT_LRP_SIZE" [exec] = "32768"(   "DECW$XSIZE_IN_PIXELS" [exec] = "1280"         = "1280"         = "1280"(   "DECW$YSIZE_IN_PIXELS" [exec] = "1024"         = "1024"         = "1024"D   "XDPS$FONTMAP" [exec] = "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSFONT.XDPS.USER_FONT_MAP]"/         = "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSFONT.XDPS.FONT_MAP]"t   "XDPS$OUTLINE_FONTS" [exec] = ) "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSFONT.XDPS.USER_OUTLINE]"n.         = "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSFONT.XDPS.OUTLINE]"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 18:10:33 -0400s$ From: "Chris" <an.other@not_here.ca>8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks9 Message-ID: <jbMme.6951$yG4.430290@news20.bellglobal.com>n  D You sure you're running the latest and greatest? (client and server)  ; http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/argus/index.htmlh   Otherwise try:  !        $ @sys$system:tnt$shutdowng*        $ delete sys$system:tnt$monitor.*.*(        $ delete sys$system:tnt$acs.dat.*  .   Then restart the management station as below  . "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate> wrote in message) news:429a5ade$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...s
 > Hi Chris >w > Thanks for that, but.....n* > [SYSMGR] > @sys$startup:tnt$startup boot1 > OpenVMS Management Server appears to be running  >aF > Initializing the print subsystem from the OpenVMS Management Station printerr > dat, > abasek > ( > [SYSMGR] > @tnt$utility update storage >e: > Updating the OpenVMS Management Station storage database >b7 > The following messages were returned from the server: & > %TNT-F-OBJNOTFOUND, object not found5 > %TNT-I-EMPTYSET, nothing satisfied the given filter  > [SYSMGR] > >u > So, still no joy!! >  > 1 > "Chris" <an.other@not_here.ca> wrote in message 4 > news:JUmme.2776$yG4.89569@news20.bellglobal.com...1 > > First thing is to run the TNT update utility:R > >u- > > $ @sys$manager:TNT$UTILITY UPDATE STORAGEg > > < > > Then make sure you have started the TNT server properly: > >e$ > > $  @sys$startup:TNT$STARTUP BOOT > >S= > > Never had any troubles one this was completed on a systeme > >y	 > > Chrisn > >e2 > > "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate> wrote in message- > > news:4299a3fa$1@duster.adelaide.on.net..., > >> Hi All  > >>J > >> OpenVMS Management Station 3.2C talking to OVMSAlpha 7.1 - can manage andrL > >> display everything except for storage.  Trying to display storage gives8 > >> TNT-I-EMPTYSET, nothing satisfied the given filter. > >>F > >> OK, the filter is set to device name = * and trying all the other optionse > > =gI > >> * produces the same result.  Can use telnet to monitor/mount/unmount  then  > >> disks which look like this: > >>J > >> Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free	 > > Trans  > >> MntK > >>  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blockso	 > > Counti > >> Cnt3 > >> VAX$DQA0:               Online               0 K > >> VAX$DQA1:               Mounted              0  ALPHASYS      33548148d > > 247a > >> 13 > >> VAX$DQB0:               Online               0r3 > >> VAX$DQB1:               Online               0e3 > >> VAX$DVA0:               Online               0l > >>E > >> So, can't even see the system disk using the management station!  > >> > >> Any thoughts appreciated. > >> > >> TIA > >> > >> > >  > >e >n >t   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:23:56 +1000h# From: "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate>h8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks- Message-ID: <429be6dd@duster.adelaide.on.net>    Umm.....  @ 3.2C server, 3.2D client, just updating server now - stay tuned!    0 "Chris" <an.other@not_here.ca> wrote in message 3 news:jbMme.6951$yG4.430290@news20.bellglobal.com...oF > You sure you're running the latest and greatest? (client and server) >e= > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/argus/index.htmlo >. > Otherwise try: >/" >       $ @sys$system:tnt$shutdown+ >       $ delete sys$system:tnt$monitor.*.*T) >       $ delete sys$system:tnt$acs.dat.*  >k/ >  Then restart the management station as belowl >s0 > "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate> wrote in message+ > news:429a5ade$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...o >> Hi Chris  >> >> Thanks for that, but.....+ >> [SYSMGR] > @sys$startup:tnt$startup boot12 >> OpenVMS Management Server appears to be running >>G >> Initializing the print subsystem from the OpenVMS Management Stationc	 > printer  >> dat >> abase >>) >> [SYSMGR] > @tnt$utility update storageF >>; >> Updating the OpenVMS Management Station storage databasel >>8 >> The following messages were returned from the server:' >> %TNT-F-OBJNOTFOUND, object not foundm6 >> %TNT-I-EMPTYSET, nothing satisfied the given filter
 >> [SYSMGR] >  >> >> So, still no joy!!u >> >>2 >> "Chris" <an.other@not_here.ca> wrote in message5 >> news:JUmme.2776$yG4.89569@news20.bellglobal.com...p2 >> > First thing is to run the TNT update utility: >> >. >> > $ @sys$manager:TNT$UTILITY UPDATE STORAGE >> >= >> > Then make sure you have started the TNT server properly:t >> >% >> > $  @sys$startup:TNT$STARTUP BOOTg >> >> >> > Never had any troubles one this was completed on a system >> >
 >> > Chris >> >3 >> > "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate> wrote in message . >> > news:4299a3fa$1@duster.adelaide.on.net... >> >> Hi All >> >>eK >> >> OpenVMS Management Station 3.2C talking to OVMSAlpha 7.1 - can manage. > andyH >> >> display everything except for storage.  Trying to display storage  >> >> givest9 >> >> TNT-I-EMPTYSET, nothing satisfied the given filter.l >> >>sG >> >> OK, the filter is set to device name = * and trying all the otherr	 > optionsh >> > =J >> >> * produces the same result.  Can use telnet to monitor/mount/unmount > thef! >> >> disks which look like this:l >> >>nK >> >> Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Freef
 >> > Trans	 >> >> MntuL >> >>  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks
 >> > Count	 >> >> Cnt 4 >> >> VAX$DQA0:               Online               0L >> >> VAX$DQA1:               Mounted              0  ALPHASYS      33548148 >> > 247 >> >> 1w4 >> >> VAX$DQB0:               Online               04 >> >> VAX$DQB1:               Online               04 >> >> VAX$DVA0:               Online               0 >> >> F >> >> So, can't even see the system disk using the management station! >> >>y >> >> Any thoughts appreciated.p >> >>o	 >> >> TIAo >> >>  >> >>  >> > >> > >> >> >i >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:23:40 +1000"# From: "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate>g8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Management Station can't show disks/ Message-ID: <429bf4dc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>   H Sadly, no better - now 3.2D on server and client, rebooted (how windows - like!), still storage is playing hard to get!e    0 "Chris" <an.other@not_here.ca> wrote in message 3 news:jbMme.6951$yG4.430290@news20.bellglobal.com...sF > You sure you're running the latest and greatest? (client and server) > = > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/argus/index.htmlb >v > Otherwise try: >o" >       $ @sys$system:tnt$shutdown+ >       $ delete sys$system:tnt$monitor.*.*h) >       $ delete sys$system:tnt$acs.dat.*n >y/ >  Then restart the management station as belowu >P0 > "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate> wrote in message+ > news:429a5ade$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...f >> Hi Chrisa >> >> Thanks for that, but.....+ >> [SYSMGR] > @sys$startup:tnt$startup boote2 >> OpenVMS Management Server appears to be running >>G >> Initializing the print subsystem from the OpenVMS Management Statione	 > printero >> dat >> abase >>) >> [SYSMGR] > @tnt$utility update storage  >>; >> Updating the OpenVMS Management Station storage database  >>8 >> The following messages were returned from the server:' >> %TNT-F-OBJNOTFOUND, object not foundu6 >> %TNT-I-EMPTYSET, nothing satisfied the given filter
 >> [SYSMGR] >o >> >> So, still no joy!!t >> >>2 >> "Chris" <an.other@not_here.ca> wrote in message5 >> news:JUmme.2776$yG4.89569@news20.bellglobal.com...r2 >> > First thing is to run the TNT update utility: >> >. >> > $ @sys$manager:TNT$UTILITY UPDATE STORAGE >> >= >> > Then make sure you have started the TNT server properly:i >> >% >> > $  @sys$startup:TNT$STARTUP BOOTe >> >> >> > Never had any troubles one this was completed on a system >> >
 >> > Chris >> >3 >> > "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate> wrote in messaged. >> > news:4299a3fa$1@duster.adelaide.on.net... >> >> Hi All >> >>wK >> >> OpenVMS Management Station 3.2C talking to OVMSAlpha 7.1 - can managee > and-H >> >> display everything except for storage.  Trying to display storage  >> >> givesh9 >> >> TNT-I-EMPTYSET, nothing satisfied the given filter.w >> >>kG >> >> OK, the filter is set to device name = * and trying all the other 	 > optionse >> > =J >> >> * produces the same result.  Can use telnet to monitor/mount/unmount > ther! >> >> disks which look like this:a >> >> K >> >> Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Freei
 >> > Trans	 >> >> Mnt L >> >>  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks
 >> > Count	 >> >> Cntw4 >> >> VAX$DQA0:               Online               0L >> >> VAX$DQA1:               Mounted              0  ALPHASYS      33548148 >> > 247 >> >> 1 4 >> >> VAX$DQB0:               Online               04 >> >> VAX$DQB1:               Online               04 >> >> VAX$DVA0:               Online               0 >> >> F >> >> So, can't even see the system disk using the management station! >> >>c >> >> Any thoughts appreciated.o >> >>a	 >> >> TIA  >> >>i >> >>i >> > >> > >> >> >, >    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 21:10:11 +0000 (UTC)oP From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply): Subject: Re: two TCPIP cluster aliases in the same cluster$ Message-ID: <d7fvfi$ft8$1@online.de>  B In article <1117434104.750106.66220@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,4 "Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl" <Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl> writes:   * > Which version of TCP/IP are you running?  ;   HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.4 - ECO 4i  =   Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V5.3 - ECO 4s  I > With IpFailsafe in V5.4 and later, you can have as many cluster aliasesi > as you like.  B I don't think there is 5.4 for VAX.  I have a cluster with VAX andH ALPHA.  Assume 5.3 as the lowest common denominator.  Can, say, 2 nodes + have one cluster alias and 4 nodes another?D   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:05:52 -0400e- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>p: Subject: Re: two TCPIP cluster aliases in the same cluster, Message-ID: <429BAA4B.EC54A5D9@teksavvy.com>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:pD > I don't think there is 5.4 for VAX.  I have a cluster with VAX andI > ALPHA.  Assume 5.3 as the lowest common denominator.  Can, say, 2 nodesm- > have one cluster alias and 4 nodes another?h  G With an arp based cluster alias, I don't see why you couldn't have halfmE your nodes participating in a cluster alias of 10.0.0.5 and the others half in 10.0.0.6  F Remember that ARP works by having oen node ask "who is 10.0.0.5 ?" and one responding "I am! , I am !"   E So if the first half sees a request for an IP address it doesn't know C about, it simply doesn't repond, and the second half of the cluster ; would choose which member would respond to the ARP request.n  E Where things get dicey is if you use some type of load broker and DNSyC based system to dynamically change which node responds to requests.sE You'd have to look at the doc to see if you could get 2 separate loade? brokers running in the same cluster and serving separate nodes.'   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.301 ************************ore the system. Too muchJ > > delay, too much man-power requirement, too many interdependencies, too  > > many things to go wrong, ... > + > Bull.  The delay in acquiring a new site,    Think: DR hot-site contract"...    > signing the rental agreement, H > installing A/C, electricity, etc. etc., specing, locating, purchasing,G > delivering, installing (hardware) a replacement system totally swamps ; > the few extra hours to rebuild the system disk this way.    ( ..d+background+info+on+the+Detroit+franchise.">
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