1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 04 Nov 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 615       Contents:9 Re: Can't join AS domain with Windows Server 2003 machine  Re: DCPS and 132 listings  Re: DCPS and 132 listings  Re: DCPS and 132 listings  Re: DCPS and 132 listings  Re: DCPS and 132 listings  Re: DCPS and 132 listings  Re: DCPS and 132 listings / Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today   Re: LIB$WAIT & COBOL/VMS problem  Re: LIB$WAIT & COBOL/VMS problem  Re: LIB$WAIT & COBOL/VMS problem  Re: LIB$WAIT & COBOL/VMS problem$ Re: More ISA device driver questions$ Re: More ISA device driver questions$ Re: More ISA device driver questions Re: RF/RZ26 disk question . Re: secure web server adn php for openvms 7.3?. Re: secure web server adn php for openvms 7.3?= Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS? = Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS? = Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS? = Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS? = Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS? = Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS? 7 Re: Were you an Interex member?  Now you're being sold! 7 Re: Were you an Interex member?  Now you're being sold! 6 Re: Were you an Interex member? Now you're being sold!6 Re: Were you an Interex member? Now you're being sold!6 Re: Were you an Interex member? Now you're being sold!9 Re: Will Digital's abandonned software ever go "public" ? 9 Re: Will Digital's abandonned software ever go "public" ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:34:59 -0000- From: "Neil Freeman" <neil@holmelea.plus.com> B Subject: Re: Can't join AS domain with Windows Server 2003 machineB Message-ID: <436a90d7$0$63083$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>  7 "ts_hunter" <goldenboy_105@yahoo.com> wrote in message  < news:1130947571.585947.91750@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...G > Have a Windows Server 2003 machine running SP1, w/ firewall disabled. I > Get "The remote procedure call failed and did not execute" message when , > trying to join the AS domain.   Any ideas? >   L Is this a multisite domain, we have the same problem and think it's down to 8 the PDC emulator service not running on the local site?    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:53:44 GMT * From: Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com>" Subject: Re: DCPS and 132 listings5 Message-ID: <031120051409252951%paul.anderson@hp.com>   C In article <1131030072.567478.229940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,  <carfer@gmail.com> wrote:   G > I think the only problem till now is with 132 col. reports, as I want = > them to be printed in portrait format instead of landscape.   G The DCPS ANSI translator, which is what turns your text into PostScript B to be sent to the printer, provides for a portrait 80-column and a landscape 132-column format.  = If you want a portrait 132-column format, you need to put the H appropriate ANSI escape sequences into a device control library module. F Then you can choose that format with the /SETUP qualifier, put it in aF form and use the /FORM qualifier, or even set up a queue to always use it.    Paul   --    Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineering    Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 12:22:06 -0800  From: carfer@gmail.com" Subject: Re: DCPS and 132 listingsC Message-ID: <1131049326.245038.327310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   E The text file has already the ANSI escape to 132 portrait.(ESC[4w) as  it was for the LA75/210.  C As you say, the translator prepares a postscript file por landscape 	 printing.    Now the questions.  G That module I have to create, has to have the ANSI escape (it's already ? in the file) or the equivalent with a HP Laser escape sequence? F If is the ANSI one, the client library has to be before dcps$devctl in the search list or after? E If is the PCL one, do I have to create a client library for PCL? What ; about the other possible ANSI escape sequences in the file?     The command for printing is like< Print/que=sys$print_3/setup=ansi132/param=data=ansi file.txt  C If I change the ANSI escape to a PCL equivalent it prints well with  param=data=PCL   Thanks   Carlos Fernandez   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 12:39:18 -0800  From: carfer@gmail.com" Subject: Re: DCPS and 132 listingsC Message-ID: <1131050358.866163.296440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    To clarify a little bit more.   F I have a customer who has some programs working with LA75/LA210 and heF wants to replace the printers with HP lasers. We are testing right now with a Hp4300.  A We haven't the sources of the programs but at least we can see or E manipulate the output text files. This files have inside all the ANSI + escape sequences those old printers needed.   E This customer dosn't like the landscape format for 132 col. and asked  if a solution was possible.   " Hope to clarify a little bit more.   TIA    Carlos Fernandez   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 13:03:36 -0800  From: carfer@gmail.com" Subject: Re: DCPS and 132 listingsA Message-ID: <1131049260.503596.4000@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   E The text file has already the ANSI escape to 132 portrait.(ESC[4w) as  it was for the LA75/210.  C As you say, the translator prepares a postscript file por landscape 	 printing.    Now the questions.  G That module I have to create, has to have the ANSI escape (it's already ? in the file) or the equivalent with a HP Laser escape sequence? F If is the ANSI one, the client library has to be before dcps$devctl in the search list or after? E If is the PCL one, do I have to create a client library for PCL? What ; about the other possible ANSI escape sequences in the file?     The command for printing is like< Print/que=sys$print_3/setup=ansi132/param=data=ansi file.txt  C If I change the ANSI escape to a PCL equivalent it prints well with  param=data=PCL   Thanks   Carlos Fernandez   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 18:10:08 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> " Subject: Re: DCPS and 132 listings, Message-ID: <436A98C9.BC665C14@teksavvy.com>   carfer@gmail.com wrote:  > G > The text file has already the ANSI escape to 132 portrait.(ESC[4w) as  > it was for the LA75/210.    E I just tried it, and I was able to print 132 columns in portrait. The G generated postscript code sets the font to have tight spacing. Not easy 0 to read since letters touch/overlap each other.       H > If is the ANSI one, the client library has to be before dcps$devctl in > the search list or after?   G Nop. The DCPS startup file has good documentation on this. It creates a  logical such as   . DCPS_LIB = DCPS$DEVCTL" "SYSDEVCTL /DATA=ANSI"  B So when it looks for ansi sequences, it will look in the SYSDEVCTLP (which I specified in my DCPS startup) and which is also used for LA75 printing)    E Perhaps mr anderson could chime in here, would it be possible for the H user to create a layup definition that makes use fo a smaller font to beG able to fit 132 characters in a more elegant way in an 80 colum space ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:37:03 -0800 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com>" Subject: Re: DCPS and 132 listings+ Message-ID: <dkeafg$te5$1@news01.intel.com>    carfer@gmail.com wrote: G > The text file has already the ANSI escape to 132 portrait.(ESC[4w) as  > it was for the LA75/210. > E > As you say, the translator prepares a postscript file por landscape  > printing.  >  > Now the questions. > I > That module I have to create, has to have the ANSI escape (it's already A > in the file) or the equivalent with a HP Laser escape sequence? H > If is the ANSI one, the client library has to be before dcps$devctl in > the search list or after? G > If is the PCL one, do I have to create a client library for PCL? What = > about the other possible ANSI escape sequences in the file?  > " > The command for printing is like> > Print/que=sys$print_3/setup=ansi132/param=data=ansi file.txt > E > If I change the ANSI escape to a PCL equivalent it prints well with  > param=data=PCL  E     Two questions: First, what is in the setup module ANSI132?  Is it B the ESC[4w you listed?  Second, where is the setup module located, that is, in which text library?   G     When I embed that escape sequence (ESC[4w) in an otherwise ordinary D text file, and print with /Para=Data=ANSI, it does print 132 columns? in portrait mode.  It's a pretty ugly font, characters squeezed C together (is that your complaint?), but it does what you seem to be 
 asking for...   C     In order for DCPS to use the setup module ANSI132, or any other A site-specific setup module, you need to put it somewhere that the B DCPS print symbiont can find it.  One place you might think to put? it would be in DCPS's own library, SYS$LIBRARY:DCPS$DEVCTL.TLB. B *DON'T DO THAT*!  It will get lost anytime you upgrade DCPS, which' provides a new version of that library.   D     The other way to do this (similar to what JF Mezei suggested) isH to 1) create your own site-local device control library in SYS$LIBRARY:,F e.g., SYS$LIBRARY:SITE_ANSI.TLB, and insert ANSI132 into that library.D Then prior to starting your DCPS queues, but *after* you've executedB SYS$STARTUP:DCPS$STARTUP.COM, define the logical DCPS_LIB like so:  D     $ Define/System DCPS_LIB DCPS$DEVCTL, "SITE_ANSI/DATA_TYPE=ANSI"  D This will make your ANSI132 setup module accessible to DCPS whenever you use /Param=Data=ANSI.   F     However, I think the key to your dilemma is to find the right ANSIB escape sequence to select the font you want.  Some examples using - /PARA=DATA=ANSI with our local setup modules:   # 	Font		Lines x Columns		Orientation % 	--------	--------------		-----------  	Courier		   66 x 80		Portrait 	Elite		   66 x 96		Portrait" 	LinePrinter	   88 x 109		Portrait 	Elite		   49 x 116		Landscape  	Courier		   66 x 132		Landscape  @ where Elite is selected by (ESC[14m) and LinePrinter is selected? by (ESC[15m).  You get Courier by default with DATA=ANSI and no  setup module specified.        Hope this helps, Ken --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:40:19 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> " Subject: Re: DCPS and 132 listings, Message-ID: <436AE618.E8FE5ED9@teksavvy.com>  H Another possibility is to write a fairly simple postscript prologue thatH sets the font to what you really want, and then just reads data from theE input stream and outputs each line at the right location on page, and C when you reach 66 lines, you spit out the page and start a new one.   G This can then be printed without any special forms or sertup because it . is handled as a self contained postscript job.   ----  E I took a look at the postscript generated by DCPS when you print text  following an [csi]4w  F It seems to re-encode the font to change the character spacing. And itC does this on the fly (eg: inside your document), so it isn't really 9 possible to have a setup module that overrides that code.     D It wouldn't be hard to write a postscript prologue to just print theH text line by line with the right font..  The stuff would still be small,> but would be more readable than what DCPS does after an CSI-4w    D Doing a quick test, with Courier, you'd need to have a font of about9 7.5points to fit 132 columns in just under 8" wide paper.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 17:24:33 -0800 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>8 Subject: Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march todayC Message-ID: <1131067473.727604.220230@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    David J Dachtera wrote:  > AEF wrote: > >  > > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > > AEF wrote: > > > >  > > > > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > > > > [snip] [...]  > J > > Note that there are different prices, each under different conditions,= > > at different stages, which makes things more complicated.  > C > Depends. We've been talking about end-user prices to the ultimate < > consumer. That seems to be everyone's over-riding concern.  F Well, y'ea-uh. But we are analyzing WHY those end-user prices are what0 there are, and from that come the complications.   >  > > Regardless, J > > in general, the law of supply and demand has a very big say as to what > > prices are.  > I > Well, yes and no. Some items are priced artificially high to stymie the = > demand. Cases in point: OpenVMS, gasoline. Some items, like H > pharmaceuticals are priced based on market "captivity": you either buy> > it, or you suffer reduced quality of life (or loss of life).  ! That's called "inelastic demand".    > H > Also, the "law of supply and demand" tends to vary, depending on one'sH > paradigm. To the Wall Street Casino player (commodities investor), theI > meaning is more classical. To the business trying to garner or increase H > market share it reads more like this: "The customer demands it, so youF > supply it at a price the customer will accept before the competitionJ > does and does so to undercut your price". So, that's not really the best > argument.    ???    > ' > > BTW, you didn't adress my question.  > F > Well, actually yes, I did. It's all there. Keep reading the previousD > post and any other information it may reference until you find it.  6 Let's take a trip with the way-back machine, shall we?   [begin pasted quote]  
 AEF wrote: >  > David J Dachtera wrote: 
 > > [snip]H > > Remember: "market" price is what people are willing to pay (example:L > > gasoline). "Fair" price is often what the market would otherwise supportE > > lacking influences which effect the price artificially (examples: A > > gasoline, OpenVMS licenses, new Alpha machines, housing, ...)  > I > There's market price with a monopoly and market price with competition. @ > Then it depends on what you call "influences". Does collectiveF > bargaining count as an "influence"? Does your fair definition assume > monopoly on either side?  A Your local newspaper's Business section likely carried an article E (possibly even headlined) about recent announcements by the petroleum C industry companies of outstanding profits during the recent quarter  when, crude and gasoline-pump prices were peaking.  @ I'll let that speak for itself. (Hint: No one U.S. company has a: monopoly on the U.S. petroleum distillate product market.)   -- David J Dachtera   [end pasted quote]    B I clearly asked if your definition of fair assumes a "monopoly" on@ either side (mgmt or workers). All you said was to read my local3 newspaper's article about recent petroleum profits.   F That does not answer my question. I really don't see why any newspaperF would mention your definition of 'fair' in any article about anything.  D If you can't be bothered to answer this question (it would take you,) what, a couple of senetences at most) ...   E I really wish I had my college economics textbook. It had some really E good stuff about microeconomics, which I unfortunately don't remember F much of due to it being over a couple of decades ago. There were greatG explanations of supply and demand, w/ and w/out monopoly, with relevant  real-world examples.  G BTW, did you see my response to your NOTRANSLATE request for F$PARSE? I B was wondering if that was what you wanted or if it was even close.   AEF    >    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 14:23:52 -0800  From: jbecker@ui.urban.org) Subject: Re: LIB$WAIT & COBOL/VMS problem C Message-ID: <1131054524.962642.215320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Richard Maher wrote:
 > Hi John, > B > > Are you saying that you are a blithering idiot who can't avoidH > > top-posting and insists on putting words into other people's mouths? > J > Can't say that sort of abuse was called for but maybe that's par for theM > course at Encompass? What is it that you do there exactly? How's membership  > going?  G I don't want to get into the middle of a flame war, but for the record, E messages posted from an encompasserve.org address have no affiliation  with Encompass.   G To answer the membership question... Encompass membership's going fine, E thanks. At HPTF, there were lines forming at the Encompass membership D booth. By the end of the week, there was a hefty stack of membership
 applications.   5 Jim Becker (who *does* have an Encompass affiliation)    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 14:32:19 -0800  From: jbecker@ui.urban.org) Subject: Re: LIB$WAIT & COBOL/VMS problem C Message-ID: <1131053776.755142.267120@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Richard Maher wrote:
 > Hi John, > B > > Are you saying that you are a blithering idiot who can't avoidH > > top-posting and insists on putting words into other people's mouths? > J > Can't say that sort of abuse was called for but maybe that's par for theM > course at Encompass? What is it that you do there exactly? How's membership  > going?  G I don't want to get into the middle of a flame war, but for the record, E messages posted from an encompasserve.org address have no affiliation  with Encompass.   G To answer the membership question... Encompass membership's going fine, E thanks. At HPTF, there were lines forming at the Encompass membership D booth. By the end of the week, there was a hefty stack of membership
 applications.   5 Jim Becker (who *does* have an Encompass affiliation)    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 14:32:48 -0800  From: jbecker@ui.urban.org) Subject: Re: LIB$WAIT & COBOL/VMS problem C Message-ID: <1131053851.875863.271220@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Richard Maher wrote:
 > Hi John, > B > > Are you saying that you are a blithering idiot who can't avoidH > > top-posting and insists on putting words into other people's mouths? > J > Can't say that sort of abuse was called for but maybe that's par for theM > course at Encompass? What is it that you do there exactly? How's membership  > going?  G I don't want to get into the middle of a flame war, but for the record, E messages posted from an encompasserve.org address have no affiliation  with Encompass.   G To answer the membership question... Encompass membership's going fine, E thanks. At HPTF, there were lines forming at the Encompass membership D booth. By the end of the week, there was a hefty stack of membership
 applications.   5 Jim Becker (who *does* have an Encompass affiliation)    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 14:32:23 -0800  From: jbecker@ui.urban.org) Subject: Re: LIB$WAIT & COBOL/VMS problem B Message-ID: <1131054012.214000.59470@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   Richard Maher wrote:
 > Hi John, > B > > Are you saying that you are a blithering idiot who can't avoidH > > top-posting and insists on putting words into other people's mouths? > J > Can't say that sort of abuse was called for but maybe that's par for theM > course at Encompass? What is it that you do there exactly? How's membership  > going?  G I don't want to get into the middle of a flame war, but for the record, E messages posted from an encompasserve.org address have no affiliation  with Encompass.   G To answer the membership question... Encompass membership's going fine, E thanks. At HPTF, there were lines forming at the Encompass membership D booth. By the end of the week, there was a hefty stack of membership
 applications.   5 Jim Becker (who *does* have an Encompass affiliation)    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:46:51 -0500* From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>- Subject: Re: More ISA device driver questions , Message-ID: <436aa16c$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  L I'm not quite sure what you are looking for.  The entry in SYS$CONFIG (well,G one would hope SYS$USER_CONFIG) does nothing but tie the ID you program K in ISACFG to the driver you want to load.  Most of the information, is IIRC  justK stuff that can be retrieved (don't remember the mechanism) by the driver to L do things like find base IO ports - but it has nothing really to do with the entry in theK configuration file.  FWIW - all of ISA space is mapped and available to you 6 (you can find the base VA in the ADP for the ISA bus).  E I seem to remember that there is a bi-directional LP driver available 
 someplace. Maybe Forrest remembers where.  J If you don't like the FW message - you can update the FW - or do something9 drastic like edit the file that contains the FW minimums.   7 "Steven M. Schweda" <sms@antinode.org> wrote in message , news:05103022064015_202AAB19@antinode.org...C >    After a long interval, I finally got back to investigating the E > addition of input capability to LRDRIVER.  After a bunch of effort, J > including learning more about a couple of different Super I/O chips than8 > I ever wanted to know, I thought that I was on my way. > E >    My first question was how to specify in ISACFG (or anywhere) the E > number of addresses to be mapped for a particular I/O base address.  > H >    However, I soon stopped caring about that one, when I ran into what+ > looks like a crippling problem elsewhere.  > J >    It appears that the chip in the XP1000 (SMSC FDC37C669), for example,H > needs a poke into a register which is a long way from the normal ones,I > which start at 0x3bc.  The Extended Control Register (ECR) is part of a D > group which seems to begin at an offset of 0x400 from start of the > normal ones. > @ >    At the console, ISACFG shows the "iobaseN" values for LPT1: >  > [...]  > handle: LPT1	 > etyp: 2 	 > slot: 0  > dev: 4 > enadev: 1  > totdev: 9 * > iobase0: 3bc   iobase1: 80000000000000007 > iobase2: 8000000000000000   iobase3: 8000000000000000 7 > iobase4: 8000000000000000   iobase5: 8000000000000000  > [...]  > I >    Poking around in the driver revealed that the address range at 0x3bc B > was 8, which is a lot less than 1026, so I figured that the onlyH > reasonable thing to do was to add a second I/O base address of 0x3bc +F > 0x400 = 0x7bc, which seemed pretty easy, in principle.  In practice, > however, I was disappointed: > , > >>>isacfg -slot 0 -dev 4 -mod -iobase1 7bc& > Can only enable/disable this device. >  > >>>isacfg -slot 0 -dev 4 -rm$ > Not allowed to remove this device. > I >    I assume that this restriction was intended to keep me from wrecking J > everything, but I really didn't want the "help".  Especially consideringG > that "isacfg -init" will put it all back to the defaults anyway.  How  > much "help" do we need?  > ' >    So, I disabled the existing entry:  > ) > >>>isacfg -slot 0 -dev 4 -mod -enadev 0 # > type >>>init to use these changes  >  > and added my own:  > L > >>>isacfg -slot 0 -dev 9 -mk -handle LPT1B -etyp 2 -totdev 10 -iobase0 3bc! >  -iobase1 7bc -irq0 7 -enadev 1  >  > which looked ok: >  > >>>isacfg -slot 0 -dev 9 > ? > =============================================================  > entry adr: 15c928  > handle: LPT1B 	 > etyp: 2 	 > slot: 0  > dev: 9 > enadev: 1  > totdev: 10 > iobase0: 3bc   iobase1: 7bc 7 > iobase2: 8000000000000000   iobase3: 8000000000000000 7 > iobase4: 8000000000000000   iobase5: 8000000000000000 8 > membase0: 8000000000000000   memlen0: 80000000000000008 > membase1: 8000000000000000   memlen1: 80000000000000008 > membase2: 8000000000000000   memlen2: 80000000000000008 > rombase: 8000000000000000   romlen:   8000000000000000! > dma0: 80000000          irq0: 7 ( > dma1: 80000000          irq1: 80000000( > dma2: 80000000          irq2: 80000000( > dma3: 80000000          irq3: 80000000? > =============================================================  > H >    Of course, autoconfigure seemed to be confused, as it created LRB0,I > and the driver initialization never happened (the INIT line stayed low, 9 > while it normally goes high when the driver is loaded).  > H >    I've tried a variety of guesses, like commenting out the LPT1 entryJ > in SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$CONFIG.DAT, changing the handle and adding an entry in= > SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$USER_CONFIG.DAT, and so on, without success.  > G >    If I use the default ISACFG entry for LPT1, I can't get at the ECR F > (offset 0x402).  I can't modify the ISACFG entry for LPT1 to add theG > second I/O base address.  If I add an ISACFG entry for LPT1B (or some J > such), and a reasonable SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$USER_CONFIG.DAT entry, the systemF > creates a device but the driver initialization fails (and actual I/OD > hangs or times out).  This was the last SYS$USER_CONFIG.DAT entry: >  > device       = "LPT1, Bi-dir"  >   name       = LR  >   driver     = SYS$LRDRIVER  >   adapter    = XBUS  >   id         = "LPT1B" > end_device >  > J >    Is there some secret or documented procedure for making this work, or > am I just doomed?  > A >    Also, this message gets tiring after the first few readings:  > K > %SYSBOOT-W-FIRMREV, Firmware rev. 5.9 is below the recommended minimum of  6.8.C >                    Please update your firmware to the recommended 	 revision, C >                    which can be found on the firmware CD labeled: 7 >                    alpha systems firmware update 6.8.  >  > 7 >     OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.2 E >      Copyright 1976-2004 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.  >  > H >    I assume that I've omitted several crucial details, so feel free to > ask. > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 6 >    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98185 >    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org  >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:07:31 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)- Subject: Re: More ISA device driver questions 2 Message-ID: <05110320073148_202AAB19@antinode.org>      F:   N > I'm not quite sure what you are looking for.  The entry in SYS$CONFIG (well,I > one would hope SYS$USER_CONFIG) does nothing but tie the ID you program M > in ISACFG to the driver you want to load.  Most of the information, is IIRC  > justM > stuff that can be retrieved (don't remember the mechanism) by the driver to N > do things like find base IO ports - but it has nothing really to do with the > entry in the > configuration file.   H    All I know is what I read in the papers (and not all of that), but inE the basic LRDRIVER code, all the ISA bus references are done starting H from values supplied by ioc$node_data( crb, IOC$K_EISA_IO_PORT, array). @ I wanted to set bits in more places that the basic parallel port@ registers (at 0x3bc).  For example, on the XP1000, with its SMSCG FDC37C669 Super I/O chip, bits (I claim) need to be set near 0x3f0 (the C whole-chip configuration registers) and 0x7bc (the normal base plus F 0x400, some optional/extended parallel port configuration registers). G Thus, I was just trying to follow the pattern, and add some more iobase G values using isacfg, which effort was defeated (or at least obstructed)  by the firmware.  E    After some more fooling around (and confusion), I decided to leave E the normal parallel port isacfg data alone (as disabling it seemed to G defeat some low-level chip initialization stuff which I wanted to keep, F at least for now), and add a completely (well, mostly) distinct device (with lots of iobase values).   E    The resulting new LB device does show up as LBA0 (with a defective G LBB0 for some as yet unknown reason), and, so far, I seem to be able to B talk to all the required registers except for the ones near 0x7bc.  G > I seem to remember that there is a bi-directional LP driver available  > someplace.  > Maybe Forrest remembers where.  F    I _talked_ about it a while ago, which is what got the SYS$EXAMPLESG source upated to agree with the real thing, but I got distracted before 9 I realized just how educational the whole thing would be.   : >   FWIW - all of ISA space is mapped and available to you8 > (you can find the base VA in the ADP for the ISA bus).  @    I was just starting to wonder if there might be some hardwareG restriction keeping me from reaching 0x7bc (actually 0x7be, home of the G Extended Control Register).  I think that my CRAMs are all right, but I G always see 0xff when I read the thing, and that's not the right answer.   H    Since I switched to LB, I haven't gone back and tried anything on theB AlpSta 200 (with its Nat Semi PC87332, and its generally differentG configuration registers).  That one doesn't have the third register set ; off in the weeds, and most other things are different, too.   C    I'll try peeking into the ADP to see what I can learn there.  If ; adp$w_size is less than 0x7be, I'll be sorely disappointed.   L > If you don't like the FW message - you can update the FW - or do something; > drastic like edit the file that contains the FW minimums.   B    If there's a more recent firmware update for the XP1000, I'd be pleased to learn how to get it.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:48:50 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)- Subject: Re: More ISA device driver questions 2 Message-ID: <05110323485056_202AAB19@antinode.org>  B >    I was just starting to wonder if there might be some hardwareI > restriction keeping me from reaching 0x7bc (actually 0x7be, home of the I > Extended Control Register).  I think that my CRAMs are all right, but I I > always see 0xff when I read the thing, and that's not the right answer.   H    Of course, if I were clever, it might not take twenty readings of theC part of the manual where it says that if you want to use the deluxe A features (like the ECR), then the parallel port address must be a 8 multiple of 8, before I noticed that 0x3bc isn't.  Sigh.  H    Which is not to say that it works right yet, but I _have_ changed the& failure mode.  Back to ISACFG.  Wheee.  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:27:01 +0000 (UTC)7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) " Subject: Re: RF/RZ26 disk question( Message-ID: <dke9sl$ru8$3@pcls4.std.com>  = koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:   i >In article <1130951248.507256.41280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de> writes: E >> The question is: can I just connect the RZ26-E to DSSI and will it J >> autodetect that or do I need one or more jumpers to make that work. TheF >> DSSI bus connector is physically identical to the SCSI connector soG >> that is not the problem. Neither am I worried in damaging the drive, 2 >> but I'd rather keep my VAX 4000-100A running...  F >   Then be very carefull with this as ONLY the connector is the same.  I >   If the disk was sold as a SCSI diesk then it almost certainly doesn't G >   have the firmware needed to talk MSCP to the DSSI.  You may need an 1 >   HSJ in the middle.  I'm really fond of HSJ10.   G Another option is to find an HSD controller (HSD05 or HSD10 I think).   C These are "bricks" with DSSI connectors that will plug into a BA356 G cabinet and allow you to use the SCSI disks in the BA356 as DSSI disks.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:23:10 +00001 From: vesko <vesko.1xxp4z@nomx.sysadminforum.com> 7 Subject: Re: secure web server adn php for openvms 7.3? 1 Message-ID: <vesko.1xxp4z@nomx.sysadminforum.com>   % yes - I found it three seconds ago :) D It has PHP interfase but requires "CSWS PHP v1.2-1 engine". And CSWSD PHP does not work for me. Is there any other port of PHP to openVMS?     --   vesko " posted via http://sysdminforum.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:52:42 -0500 % From: BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net> 7 Subject: Re: secure web server adn php for openvms 7.3? * Message-ID: <436A6A8A.3080302@comcast.net>   vesko wrote:' > yes - I found it three seconds ago :) F > It has PHP interfase but requires "CSWS PHP v1.2-1 engine". And CSWSF > PHP does not work for me. Is there any other port of PHP to openVMS?  I When you say, "does not work", can you be more specific?  CSWS PHP works  H fine for me on my system.  Perhaps we can help make it work for you?  I 1 seem to recall that installing PHP was very easy.    ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:37:17 +0000 (UTC)( From: m.kraemer@gsi.de (Michael Kraemer)F Subject: Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?5 Message-ID: <dkdlct$pk7$1@lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>   M In article <1131041677.974772.161440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, "pbritto"   <britto.paulo@gmail.com> writes: > F > How do I startup the DECWindows or how can I tell for sure that it's > really installed?   5 IIRC it should come up once it is properly installed. B Maybe you have to customize startup procedures too, can't remember that right now. 4 Another pitfall is the lack of the respective PAK(s) (yes, it's ridiculous,  E  but unlike with any other OS on the planet you need an extra license 1  to be able to do basic gfx on your workstation). D Some gfx adapters need drivers that don't come with the hobbyist CDs) (OPEN3D, even if you just want 2D Motif). B And some gfx adapters aren't even supported (but are under Tru64)    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 11:39:42 -0800 ( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>F Subject: Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?C Message-ID: <1131046782.534733.235510@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   < > Is the DECWindows installed along with the OpenVMS so it'sE > automatically started when I boot the OpenVMS? By the way, should I F > really have to "boot -flags 0,0" to startup the OpenVMS every time I > power up the station?     B DECWindows software is typically installed to automatically start.E However, the post-installer would typically run as a text application 3 (setting SYSTEM account password, stuff like that).   > What happens at power up is defined by the auto_action consoleG environment variable. It's typically set to "halt" but I usually set it  toC "restart". "set auto_action restart" I think is the correct command   D How do I startup the DECWindows or how can I tell for sure that it's really installed?    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 21:25:46 +0100& From: "H Vlems" <nospam@what.ever.com>F Subject: Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?; Message-ID: <cad7$436a724e$513b9a2c$26982@news.versatel.nl>   6 DECwindows base support is installed with the base OS.J However you need to install the MOTIF kit too (and the license PAK) to get
 the graphics.   @ The boot flags are maintained in the console's boot_* variables.F If you prefer to have the system boot automatically at power up enter:   >>> set auto_action boot  B Power off the system. Wait at least one minute and power on again.   Hans  5 "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com> schreef in bericht = news:1131035667.875656.304170@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... < > Is the DECWindows installed along with the OpenVMS so it'sE > automatically started when I boot the OpenVMS? By the way, should I F > really have to "boot -flags 0,0" to startup the OpenVMS every time I > power up the station?  >  >  Thanks in advance >  > Paulo  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:38:52 -0800 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com>F Subject: Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?+ Message-ID: <dke72d$rl0$1@news01.intel.com>    pbritto wrote:< > Is the DECWindows installed along with the OpenVMS so it'sE > automatically started when I boot the OpenVMS? By the way, should I F > really have to "boot -flags 0,0" to startup the OpenVMS every time I > power up the station?   >     Along with the othere responses (has DECwindows/Motif beenC installed?), check the value of the SYSGEN parameter WINDOW_SYSTEM. ; On a workstation, you probably want WINDOW_SYSTEM set to 1. & See HELP SYS_PARAMETERS WINDOW_SYSTEM.  	      -Ken  --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:21:40 +0000 (UTC)7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) F Subject: Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?( Message-ID: <dke9ik$ru8$2@pcls4.std.com>  * "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com> writes:  ; >Is the DECWindows installed along with the OpenVMS so it's / >automatically started when I boot the OpenVMS?    It's usually set up to do so.   F Try logging in as SYSTEM (and not from the workstation console window)H and execute $ @SYS$STARTUP:DECW$STARTUP and see if it reports any errorsF (often a sysgen parameter not set to DECwindows' liking, or a license  problem)   > By the way, should IE >really have to "boot -flags 0,0" to startup the OpenVMS every time I  >power up the station?  , From the console prompt issue the following:   >>> set auto_action restart + >>> set bootdef_dev <your boot device name>  >>> set boot_osflags 0,0  J "<your boot device name>" is something like dka0, you should know what it  is.   G auto_action can be set to boot, but setting it to restart will get you  5 certain crash dumps that boot will lose, if you care.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:53:35 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> F Subject: Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?, Message-ID: <436AB102.3123271E@teksavvy.com>   pbritto wrote: > < > Is the DECWindows installed along with the OpenVMS so it'sE > automatically started when I boot the OpenVMS? By the way, should I F > really have to "boot -flags 0,0" to startup the OpenVMS every time I > power up the station?     H There are 2 "layers" of DECwindows.  With the VMS installation, you haveH the option to install the base support for decwindows. This puts generic0 files to support decwidnows, but not decwindows.  P You need to install the motif kit separately. (as well the the DWmotif license).  C if motif has been installed, DIR SYS$SYSTEM:DECW$*.EXE should yield = plenty of files, including DECW$CALC.EXE and DECW$SESSION.EXE     H DECWINDOWS is started based on the SYSGEN parameter WINDOW_SYSTEM. If itK is set to 0, decwidnows is not started. If set to 1, decwindows is started.   < There is also another possibility, if you define the logicalD DECW$IGNORE_DECWINDOWS in systartup_VMS.com (or in sylogicals), then decwidnows won't start either.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:32:42 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>@ Subject: Re: Were you an Interex member?  Now you're being sold!+ Message-ID: <436AC849.CA0E06E7@comcast.net>    JF Mezei wrote:  >  > David J Dachtera wrote: I > > Nope. "Succession", in this case, refers to ownership of the specific F > > property, regardless of the reason or process of transfer, not the > > process in general.  > I > If the bankrupted company had a rule prohibiting men in pink miniskirts F > from sitting on office chairs, when the liquidators find a buyer forJ > such chairs, the buyers will not be bound by the defunct company's rulesG > about chair usage. The new buyer can do as it wishes with the chairs.     G To my knowledge, there is no U.S. law, whether written law or case law, H regarding where fashion-challenged transvestites may park their keester.   > > > Bankrupcy law allows the$ > > > judge to cancel any contracts. > > 	 > > Nope.  > C > Yes. in liquidation, there are no contracts left.  There are only J > creditors who want compensation based on how much the bankrupted companyK > owes them due to unpaid bills and unpaid securec contractual obligations.  > J > > ...but it may not violate the law in the process, nor may it authorize? > > others to violate the law by their use of purchased assets.  > A > I was talking about any interex specific bylaws/rules on use of I > distribution list above and beyond the law. Of course, the buyer of the J > list will need to abide by the law.  But any additional protections that! > Interex had are out the window.    ...but U.S. Privacy law is not.   I > If the law allows a mailing onwer to sell names to other companies, but J > interex had a policy of not selling its list, the new onwer will be ableD > to sell the list according to the law and not be restricted by the > defunct company's rules.  5 ...but would still be restricted by U.S. Privacy law.   H > > The court would be *REQUIRED* to admonish the buyer that the list isJ > > sold subject to the laws which governed its use by the original owner. > F > Actually I am not 100% sure of this. If the backrupted company is inH > state A, but a company buys an asset and moved it to state B, wouldn't4 > state B's law now regulate the use of that asset ?  0 Privacy law is at the Federal level, primarily.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:48:02 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> @ Subject: Re: Were you an Interex member?  Now you're being sold!, Message-ID: <436AE7E7.476862BF@teksavvy.com>   David J Dachtera wrote: I > To my knowledge, there is no U.S. law, whether written law or case law, J > regarding where fashion-challenged transvestites may park their keester.  D Correct. Which is why if a company has some rules that are above andE beyond the law, those rules evaporate with liquidation and the assets - are no longer bound to those corporate rules.   ) Only the country's law continue to apply.     E If Interex has membership rules that were much stricter than what the G law required, those extra restrictions do not apply to the new onwer of C the list. There is no Interex to dictate the terms of such sale and B require the new onwer uphold Interex's extra rules. The asset is a? vanilla mailing list whose use is bound only by US law, and the I liquidators will only expect the buyer to adhere to US mailing list laws.     C And that is probably the one big reason HP decided to buy that list H since it knew that the new onwer might use the list perfectly within the, law, but in ways that Interex wouldn't have.   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 14:20:44 -0800  From: jbecker@ui.urban.org? Subject: Re: Were you an Interex member? Now you're being sold! C Message-ID: <1131054996.242645.170770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Dave Froble wrote: ... I > If the data wasn't owned by Interex, then it isn't property that can be I > sold to cover the debts of Interex.  I'd say that there are grounds for I > violation of privacy laws.  Don't think they had my name.  If they did, 9 > HP or Encompass gave it to them, without my permission.  ...   D The Interex member database was an asset of the Interex corporation. It's been acquired by HP: Q http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/story/0,10801,105895,00.html   E A quote from the article: "By buying what are, in effect, the records A of its own customers, HP saw its bid as something akin to a white D knight. The purchase "was a clear demonstration of our commitment toF protecting all our customers' personal information," said Don Gentile, a spokesman for the company."   / This brings the data under HP's privacy policy.   D Encompass doesn't give away your address. You can find a link to theB Encompass privacy policy at the bottom of every Encompass web page (http://www.encompassus.org/).  
 Jim Becker   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:04:26 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ? Subject: Re: Were you an Interex member? Now you're being sold! + Message-ID: <436AB38C.ACEE567@teksavvy.com>    jbecker@ui.urban.org wrote: F > The Interex member database was an asset of the Interex corporation. > It's been acquired by HP: S > http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/story/0,10801,105895,00.html   , BTW, in that article, it confuses bankrupcy.  # Chapter 11 is bankrupcy PROTECTION. $ Chapter 7 is bankrupcy  LIQUIDATION.  F > Encompass doesn't give away your address. You can find a link to theD > Encompass privacy policy at the bottom of every Encompass web page  > (http://www.encompassus.org/).    B That privacy policy evaporates the minute the user group goes into0 chapter 7 and ceases to operate and later exist.  C It was a good PR move from HP's point of view to save the list.  HP F could then reconstitute a new usergroup once liquidation of Interex isC complete.  If interex was 4 million $ in debt and its most valuable D asset only generated $66,000 of revenus, it may not give anything toE creditors since the liquidators get first dibs any any cash t pay for  their service.  G Who owned the "Interex" brand name ? Was it HP, or was Interex the sole  owner of its brand ?  G It will be interesting to see if HP would make a bid for the brand name  if it doesn't already own it.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:28:57 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>? Subject: Re: Were you an Interex member? Now you're being sold! * Message-ID: <436AC768.4D35463@comcast.net>   JF Mezei wrote:  >  > jbecker@ui.urban.org wrote: H > > The Interex member database was an asset of the Interex corporation. > > It's been acquired by HP: U > > http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/story/0,10801,105895,00.html  > . > BTW, in that article, it confuses bankrupcy. > % > Chapter 11 is bankrupcy PROTECTION. & > Chapter 7 is bankrupcy  LIQUIDATION. > H > > Encompass doesn't give away your address. You can find a link to theF > > Encompass privacy policy at the bottom of every Encompass web page" > > (http://www.encompassus.org/). > D > That privacy policy evaporates the minute the user group goes into2 > chapter 7 and ceases to operate and later exist.  G See, this is where you need to read up on U.S. privacy laws. The policy H may "evaporate", but U.S. Privacy Laws do not. The owners of the privateE property - the personal information - have invoked their rights under C the law. Those rights cannot be arbitrarily revoked. To do so would  violate U.S. law.   E > It was a good PR move from HP's point of view to save the list.  HP H > could then reconstitute a new usergroup once liquidation of Interex isE > complete.  If interex was 4 million $ in debt and its most valuable F > asset only generated $66,000 of revenus, it may not give anything toG > creditors since the liquidators get first dibs any any cash t pay for  > their service. > I > Who owned the "Interex" brand name ? Was it HP, or was Interex the sole  > owner of its brand ?  G Regardless, the value of the name may be seriously tainted. If *I* were H HP, I'd put it safely away for good long time and come up with something  new that carries less "baggage".   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:04:06 -0500, From: Carl Friedberg <frida.fried@gmail.com>B Subject: Re: Will Digital's abandonned software ever go "public" ?I Message-ID: <890539d90511031104m64b98fd8t190fe4bae9b47414@mail.gmail.com>   @ I seem to remember this was where I first heard the term "CutlerD coding". It referred (to DNC, of course) to Dave's abhorrence of any@ wasted locations -- he would dig around for an instruction which+ had the right value to use as a constant...    Carl Friedberg frida.fried@gmail.com   @ On 3 Nov 2005 10:01:27 -0800, Galen <gltackett@gmail.com> wrote: > Lee wrote: > C > > Speaking of interesting reading, I remember one of the funniest ? > > DECUS RSX Magic Session presentations I ever saw was called J > > "It's in the Code". I think it was done by Brian McCarthy, circa 1982.@ > >  He had dozens of examples of crazy code and commentary that9 > > had made its way into the RSX sources over the years.  > E > Was this the same Magic session where we got to hear about how many G > copies of the RAD50/ASCII conversion routines were built in to RSX? I C > don't remember the number but it was surprisingly high. Some wit, E > perhaps Brian himself, joked that this provided code redundancy: If > > copy A of the routine breaks, we have copy B to use instead. > E > There was also some Macro source file where the only comment was, I G > think, the birth date of the author's dog. Was this in the source for 
 > PIP, maybe?  >  >    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2005 19:24:25 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)B Subject: Re: Will Digital's abandonned software ever go "public" ?+ Message-ID: <3sv6f9FqarsoU1@individual.net>   I In article <890539d90511031104m64b98fd8t190fe4bae9b47414@mail.gmail.com>, / 	Carl Friedberg <frida.fried@gmail.com> writes: B > I seem to remember this was where I first heard the term "CutlerF > coding". It referred (to DNC, of course) to Dave's abhorrence of anyB > wasted locations -- he would dig around for an instruction which- > had the right value to use as a constant...   B This was more common than you might think, especially in the earlyD microcomputer days (remember, 28K Words is not much memory).  I onceC dissassembled a Z80 program in hopes of re-assembling it with a new C ORG.  It didn't work.  Why?  Because upon reading the dis-assembled D code I found a JMP into the middle of an address of another JMP.  ItF turns out that the High Order Byte of the address was AF which equatesI with "XOR A".  JMPing into the middle of the address saved the programmer E one byte of memory.  Of course, if you change the ORG and re-assemble H it, that address changes and the High Order byte is no longer AF.  It isD not unusual to find dozens of these hand optimizations buried in old( programs that were written in assembler.     bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.615 ************************