1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 08 Nov 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 624       Contents:% Re: Advanced Server Performance Issue  Are X-terminals sold anymore? ! Re: Are X-terminals sold anymore? ! Re: Are X-terminals sold anymore? & Re: DECNET OSI cross architecture boot0 Re: error modifying OPA0: error message on login, error modifying OPA0: error message on login0 Re: error modifying OPA0: error message on login6 EXQUOTA with TCP/IP $QIO io$_acpcontrol  gethostbyname: Re: EXQUOTA with TCP/IP $QIO io$_acpcontrol  gethostbyname? Files in a Windows machine recorded on CD to be read on OpenVMS C Re: Files in a Windows machine recorded on CD to be read on OpenVMS E Re: Microsoft File Format Conversions (was: Re: Posted under request) * Re: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support* Re: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support Re: Posted under request Re: Posted under request Re: RCP issue,- Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement . Re: secure web server adn php for openvms 7.3?= Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS? = Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS? = Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?  Re: VMS magtape handling Re: VMS magtape handling3 Re: ZFS from Sun, what's about a new FS for OpenVMS 3 Re: ZFS from Sun, what's about a new FS for OpenVMS 3 Re: ZFS from Sun, what's about a new FS for OpenVMS 3 Re: ZFS from Sun, what's about a new FS for OpenVMS   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:13:10 GMT % From: "Safir" <axica_nopub@yahoo.com> . Subject: Re: Advanced Server Performance Issue3 Message-ID: <q84cf.16035$C47.8796@news.cpqcorp.net>   L > I didn't try that one yet. Before I do: Does anyone of you have experience > with these settings ? ; > - And what should these numerous OPCOM messages tell me ?   $ I have the same messages if i define7 $ define /system /exec LMF$DISPLAY_OPCOM_MESSAGE "TRUE"    Have you this logical defined ?  Can you try to deassign it ?   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 08:27:44 -0800 ' From: "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> & Subject: Are X-terminals sold anymore?C Message-ID: <1131467264.141454.225850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   2 I am having difficulty finding X-terminal vendors.  B We use xfree on PCs for engineers, but we have some end-users thatE have been using Tektronics X-terminals that are starting to fail.  So  we need to replace them.  A The log into xfree is a bit of a hassle.  You have to log into an 9 account to establish the connection and then log into the 3 X-terminal window.   I guess I can beat that with a 8 captive account to automate establishing the connection.  6 Is there a nifty way to establish a connection to a PC running xfree?   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:24:22 +0100 ) From: "gl@decadence.it" <gl@decadence.it> * Subject: Re: Are X-terminals sold anymore?9 Message-ID: <pan.2005.11.08.17.24.17.560133@decadence.it>   9 Il Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:27:44 -0800, tadamsmar ha scritto: 4 > I am having difficulty finding X-terminal vendors. > D > We use xfree on PCs for engineers, but we have some end-users thatG > have been using Tektronics X-terminals that are starting to fail.  So  > we need to replace them.  R http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF04a/12454-321959-89307-338927-89307.html  C HP thin clients are terminals capable of running local applications I (web browser or terminal emulation program) and connecting to a server by ? Xnest Xserver (this is standard software configuration from HP)   J I found that for our needs, it was better to fully erase the linux bundledI with the terminal and replace it with a stripped down Debian based on our  needs.H In our setup, it runs fast (8-10 seconds from power on to login screen),E boots directly to graphical server login and fully supports local USB " devices (USB storage and printers)  G We tried some other Xterminal solutions, but HP thin clients are really  good and fast.	 Enjoy! :)  gl   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 12:18:06 -05000 From: "Jeff Morgan" <vmswiz@geonospamcities.com>* Subject: Re: Are X-terminals sold anymore?- Message-ID: <dkqmkg$9l0m$1@news3.infoave.net>   L I have an application coded in the eXcursion control panel that rexec's the 
 command...  3        $ mcr cde$system_defaults:[bin]dtsession.exe   M ...at server startup using a stored username and password. It's all setup in  C the control panel. Double-click the eXcursion icon and it launches   everything.   . Maybe you can run the same command from xfree.  K This gives you the full 4-window Decwindows Motif environment. You'll need  J to set the "backdrop" to NONE in order to see pc application icons on the  desktop.   Jeff      3 "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> wrote in message  = news:1131467264.141454.225850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... 3 >I am having difficulty finding X-terminal vendors.  > D > We use xfree on PCs for engineers, but we have some end-users thatG > have been using Tektronics X-terminals that are starting to fail.  So  > we need to replace them. > C > The log into xfree is a bit of a hassle.  You have to log into an ; > account to establish the connection and then log into the 5 > X-terminal window.   I guess I can beat that with a : > captive account to automate establishing the connection. > 8 > Is there a nifty way to establish a connection to a PC > running xfree? >    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 01:21:32 -0800 * From: "Alan Greig" <greigaln@netscape.net>/ Subject: Re: DECNET OSI cross architecture boot B Message-ID: <1131441691.962357.91970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   Joseph Huber wrote:  >>B > I think the NCP emulation in Decnet-plus does not do anything to > produce NCL commands on disk.   G They must do something because the Alpha node attempted to load the VAX @ satellite but failed with a file open error as follows. I've now changed it to use LANCP   > Event: Load Request Failed from: Node LOCAL:.XXXXX MOP Circuit	 CSMACD-0, -         at: 2005-11-08-07:07:17.843+00:00Iinf          Reason=File Open Error,    --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:48:21 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>9 Subject: Re: error modifying OPA0: error message on login : Message-ID: <9g0cf.22140$j5.879@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   pbritto wrote:  , > When I login I get the 2 following errors:& > %SET-W-NOTSET, error modifying OPA0:' > -SET-I-UNKTERM, unknown terminal type   A Technically that's one error :-) It just means that VMS couldn't  @ identify the terminal. Might still be worth actually trying SET I TER/VT100 to see if most basic emulation works. Otherwise startup IP and  F telnet into the box using a decent terminal emulator (Putty is a good G free one). Or else connect to the serial port with a terminal emulator.    > H > By the way, I think this is the same reason why I can start the EDIT?!  D Related. Your console is stuck in basic mode. You are not running a  DECWindows terminal.   > 	 >  Thanks  >    --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 03:41:53 -0800 ( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>5 Subject: error modifying OPA0: error message on login C Message-ID: <1131450113.556011.100190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   * When I login I get the 2 following errors:$ %SET-W-NOTSET, error modifying OPA0:% -SET-I-UNKTERM, unknown terminal type   D I was told (thanks for this group) that the graphic card I've got isF not supported by OpenVMS a PowerStorm. Is this a configuration problem or it's the card fault?   F By the way, I think this is the same reason why I can start the EDIT?!    Thanks    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 13:47:10 +0100 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)9 Subject: Re: error modifying OPA0: error message on login , Message-ID: <4370ac5e$1@news.langstoeger.at>  e In article <4370a98f$1@news.langstoeger.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: o >In article <1131450113.556011.100190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com> writes: H >>By the way, I think this is the same reason why I can start the EDIT?! > K >Yes and no. EDIT needs a terminal which understands the (escape) sequences M >for cursor control and video attributes. One step is to have such a terminal L >(which might or might not be a problem for you) and another step is to tellJ >it all VMS applications - like EDIT - (via SET TERMINAL/DEVICE) which one3 >of the list of possible/supported terminals it is.   F I forgot to add, you are probably not using a terminal (emulator) on aE serial (console) line, but the monitor on the graphic card in console E (VGA) mode. I remember having seen a basic terminal emulation builtin H in Alpha console mode. And if I remember correctly, it was VT52. I don't9 know if all Alphas/SRM had this (undocumented ?) feature.   I So, do a SET TERM/VT52 and then try to EDIT/EDT (EVE doesn't support VT52 J and brings %TPU-E-NONANSICRT, SYS$INPUT must be supported CRT) and tell usJ what it does. (EDT can be used in line mode and is better than nothing for$ editing files on a console monitor).   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 21:13:21 +08003 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> ? Subject: EXQUOTA with TCP/IP $QIO io$_acpcontrol  gethostbyname 1 Message-ID: <dkq8bt$hs4$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi,   J Could someone please tell me which quota is being used up by the following gethostbyname call?   C If the size of the hostent structure is too big it just falls over.    Regards Richard Maher   5    gethostbyname == <inetacp$c_hostent_offset * 256 +  inetacp_func$c_gethostbyname>    identification division. program-id.    get_host. environment division.  configuration section. special-names.  -     class a_valid_nodename is   "A" thru "Z", -                                 "a" thru "z", -                                 "0" thru "9", -                                 ".", "-","_", -                                 "/", " ","$".    data division. working-storage section.@ 01  ucx$c_af_inet           pic 9(9)    comp    value   external ucx$c_af_inet.@ 01  gethostbyname           pic 9(9)    comp    value   external gethostbyname.@ 01  io$_acpcontrol          pic 9(9)    comp    value   external io$_acpcontrol. @ 01  ss$_endoffile           pic 9(9)    comp    value   external ss$_endoffile.@ 01  ss$_badparam            pic 9(9)    comp    value   external
 ss$_badparam. L 01  ss$_normal              pic 9(9)    comp    value   external ss$_normal.- 01  sys_status              pic 9(9)    comp.  * 	 01  iosb. -     03  cond_val            pic 9(4)    comp. %     03                      pic x(6).  * - 01  inet_chan               pic 9(4)    comp. < 01  eof                     pic x               value   "N".& 01  in_name                 pic x(50).- 01  in_len                  pic 9(4)    comp. - 01  out_len                 pic 9(4)    comp.  01  out_string. -     03  host_name           pic 9(9)    comp. -     03  host_aliases        pic 9(9)    comp. -     03  host_addrtype       pic 9(9)    comp. -     03  host_addrlen        pic 9(9)    comp. -     03  host_addresses      pic 9(9)    comp. ) *    03                      pic x(1004). (     03                      pic x(1912).- 01  item_start              pic 9(9)    comp. - 01  item_len                pic 9(9)    comp.  01  offset_string."     03  ra_1                pic x."     03  ra_2                pic x."     03  ra_3                pic x."     03  ra_4                pic x.1 01  item_offset                         redefines -     offset_string           pic 9(9)    comp. & 01  rem_addr                pic x(32).- 01  rem_addr_len            pic 9(4)    comp.  *  procedure division.  kick_off section.  00.      call "sys$assign" &         using   by descriptor   "_bg:")                 by reference    inet_chan '                 by value        0, 0, 0          giving  sys_status. A     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using by value  sys_status.   I     display "Enter Nodename: " line 1 column 1 erase screen no advancing. B     accept in_name reversed bold protected at end move "Y" to eof.  &     perform dump_host until eof = "Y". *  fini. A     call "sys$dassgn" using by value inet_chan giving sys_status. A     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using by value  sys_status.   
     stop run.  *  dump_host section. 00. #     if in_name = spaces go to fini.   &     if in_name is not a_valid_nodename.         display "Illegal character(s) entered"         go to fini.        call "str$trim" 0         using   by descriptor   in_name, in_name&                 by reference    in_len         giving  sys_status. A     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using by value  sys_status.        call "sys$qiow" <         using   by value        0, inet_chan, io$_acpcontrol$                 by reference    iosb#                 by value        0,0 @                 by descriptor   gethostbyname, in_name(1:in_len)'                 by reference    out_len *                 by descriptor   out_string#                 by value        0,0          giving  sys_status.   ;     if sys_status = ss$_normal move cond_val to sys_status.      evaluate    sys_status6         when    ss$_normal      perform format_displayI         when    ss$_badparam    display "Increase the size of Out_String" 6         when    ss$_endoffile   display "Unknown Node"I         when    other           call "lib$stop" using by value sys_status      end-evaluate.  *  fini. ,     display "Enter Nodename: " no advancing.B     accept in_name reversed bold protected at end move "Y" to eof. *  format_display section.  00. *     if (host_addrtype not = ucx$c_af_inet)*     or (host_addrlen  not = 4            )*         display "Unknown address type/len"'         display "Can't handle af_inet6"          go to fini.  *+ * Get official host name *-     if host_name not = zeros*         add 1, host_name giving item_start         move zeros to item_len<         inspect out_string(item_start:(out_len - host_name))E             tallying item_len for characters before initial low-value G         display 'Host Name is "', out_string(item_start:item_len), '"'.  *+ * Dump aliases *-     if host_aliases not = zeros -         add 1, host_aliases giving item_start +         perform until item_start >= out_len :             move out_string(item_start:4) to offset_string"             if item_offset = zeros*                 move out_len to item_start             else&                 move zeros to item_len?                 inspect out_string((item_offset + 1):(out_len - 
 item_offset)) C                     tallying item_len for characters before initial 	 low-value ?                 display 'Alias is "', out_string((item_offset +  1):item_len), '"' #                 add 4 to item_start              end-if         end-perform. *+ * Dump Addresses *-!     if host_addresses not = zeros @         move out_string((host_addresses + 1):4) to offset_string,         add 1, item_offset giving item_start2         perform until item_start >= host_addresses:             move out_string(item_start:4) to offset_string&             if item_offset not = zeros                 call "sys$fao"A                     using       by descriptor   "Trying address:-  !@UB.!@UB.!@UB.!@UB"<                                 by reference    rem_addr_len8                                 by descriptor   rem_addrF                                 by reference    ra_1, ra_2, ra_3, ra_4*                     giving      sys_status.                 if sys_status not = ss$_normal=                     call "lib$stop" using by value sys_status                  end-if0                 display rem_addr(1:rem_addr_len)             end-if             add 4 to item_start          end-perform. *  fini.  *  end program get_host.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 05:34:05 -0800 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>C Subject: Re: EXQUOTA with TCP/IP $QIO io$_acpcontrol  gethostbyname 0 Message-ID: <BF95E94D.17869%roktsci@comcast.net>  C Copy the text file CQ.TXT from this link, and rename it to CQ .com.   4 http://support.mti.com/VMS2005cd/supportfiles/cq.txt  E You can run it in another terminal session and give it the PID of the L process that runs out of a quota value, and it will monitor the quota values* and tell you which one is being exhausted.   Jeff Cameron  L On 11/8/05 5:13 AM, in article dkq8bt$hs4$1@news-02.connect.com.au, "Richard+ Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:    > Hi,  > L > Could someone please tell me which quota is being used up by the following > gethostbyname call?  > E > If the size of the hostent structure is too big it just falls over.  >  > Regards Richard Maher  > 7 >    gethostbyname == <inetacp$c_hostent_offset * 256 +  > inetacp_func$c_gethostbyname>  >  > identification division. > program-id.    get_host. > environment division.  > configuration section. > special-names. > / >     class a_valid_nodename is   "A" thru "Z", / >                                 "a" thru "z", / >                                 "0" thru "9", / >                                 ".", "-","_", / >                                 "/", " ","$".  >  > data division. > working-storage section.B > 01  ucx$c_af_inet           pic 9(9)    comp    value   external > ucx$c_af_inet.B > 01  gethostbyname           pic 9(9)    comp    value   external > gethostbyname.B > 01  io$_acpcontrol          pic 9(9)    comp    value   external > io$_acpcontrol. B > 01  ss$_endoffile           pic 9(9)    comp    value   external > ss$_endoffile.B > 01  ss$_badparam            pic 9(9)    comp    value   external > ss$_badparam. N > 01  ss$_normal              pic 9(9)    comp    value   external ss$_normal./ > 01  sys_status              pic 9(9)    comp.  > *  > 01  iosb. / >     03  cond_val            pic 9(4)    comp. ' >     03                      pic x(6).  > * / > 01  inet_chan               pic 9(4)    comp. > > 01  eof                     pic x               value   "N".( > 01  in_name                 pic x(50)./ > 01  in_len                  pic 9(4)    comp. / > 01  out_len                 pic 9(4)    comp.  > 01  out_string. / >     03  host_name           pic 9(9)    comp. / >     03  host_aliases        pic 9(9)    comp. / >     03  host_addrtype       pic 9(9)    comp. / >     03  host_addrlen        pic 9(9)    comp. / >     03  host_addresses      pic 9(9)    comp. + > *    03                      pic x(1004). * >     03                      pic x(1912)./ > 01  item_start              pic 9(9)    comp. / > 01  item_len                pic 9(9)    comp.  > 01  offset_string.$ >     03  ra_1                pic x.$ >     03  ra_2                pic x.$ >     03  ra_3                pic x.$ >     03  ra_4                pic x.3 > 01  item_offset                         redefines / >     offset_string           pic 9(9)    comp. ( > 01  rem_addr                pic x(32)./ > 01  rem_addr_len            pic 9(4)    comp.  > *  > procedure division.  > kick_off section.  > 00.  >     call "sys$assign" ( >         using   by descriptor   "_bg:"+ >                 by reference    inet_chan ) >                 by value        0, 0, 0  >         giving  sys_status. C >     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using by value 
 > sys_status.  > K >     display "Enter Nodename: " line 1 column 1 erase screen no advancing. D >     accept in_name reversed bold protected at end move "Y" to eof. > ( >     perform dump_host until eof = "Y". > *  > fini. C >     call "sys$dassgn" using by value inet_chan giving sys_status. C >     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using by value 
 > sys_status.  >  >     stop run.  > *  > dump_host section. > 00. % >     if in_name = spaces go to fini.  > ( >     if in_name is not a_valid_nodename0 >         display "Illegal character(s) entered" >         go to fini.  >  >     call "str$trim" 2 >         using   by descriptor   in_name, in_name( >                 by reference    in_len >         giving  sys_status. C >     if sys_status not = ss$_normal call "lib$stop" using by value 
 > sys_status.  >  >     call "sys$qiow" > >         using   by value        0, inet_chan, io$_acpcontrol& >                 by reference    iosb% >                 by value        0,0 B >                 by descriptor   gethostbyname, in_name(1:in_len)) >                 by reference    out_len , >                 by descriptor   out_string% >                 by value        0,0  >         giving  sys_status.  > = >     if sys_status = ss$_normal move cond_val to sys_status.  >     evaluate    sys_status8 >         when    ss$_normal      perform format_displayK >         when    ss$_badparam    display "Increase the size of Out_String" 8 >         when    ss$_endoffile   display "Unknown Node"K >         when    other           call "lib$stop" using by value sys_status  >     end-evaluate.  > *  > fini. . >     display "Enter Nodename: " no advancing.D >     accept in_name reversed bold protected at end move "Y" to eof. > *  > format_display section.  > 00. , >     if (host_addrtype not = ucx$c_af_inet), >     or (host_addrlen  not = 4            ), >         display "Unknown address type/len") >         display "Can't handle af_inet6"  >         go to fini.  > *+ > * Get official host name > *- >     if host_name not = zeros, >         add 1, host_name giving item_start  >         move zeros to item_len> >         inspect out_string(item_start:(out_len - host_name))G >             tallying item_len for characters before initial low-value I >         display 'Host Name is "', out_string(item_start:item_len), '"'.  > *+ > * Dump aliases > *-! >     if host_aliases not = zeros / >         add 1, host_aliases giving item_start - >         perform until item_start >= out_len < >             move out_string(item_start:4) to offset_string$ >             if item_offset = zeros, >                 move out_len to item_start >             else( >                 move zeros to item_lenA >                 inspect out_string((item_offset + 1):(out_len -  > item_offset)) E >                     tallying item_len for characters before initial  > low-value A >                 display 'Alias is "', out_string((item_offset +  > 1):item_len), '"' % >                 add 4 to item_start  >             end-if >         end-perform. > *+ > * Dump Addresses > *-# >     if host_addresses not = zeros B >         move out_string((host_addresses + 1):4) to offset_string. >         add 1, item_offset giving item_start4 >         perform until item_start >= host_addresses< >             move out_string(item_start:4) to offset_string( >             if item_offset not = zeros  >                 call "sys$fao"C >                     using       by descriptor   "Trying address:-  > !@UB.!@UB.!@UB.!@UB"> >                                 by reference    rem_addr_len: >                                 by descriptor   rem_addrH >                                 by reference    ra_1, ra_2, ra_3, ra_4, >                     giving      sys_status0 >                 if sys_status not = ss$_normal? >                     call "lib$stop" using by value sys_status  >                 end-if2 >                 display rem_addr(1:rem_addr_len) >             end-if! >             add 4 to item_start  >         end-perform. > *  > fini.  > *  > end program get_host.  >  >    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 04:16:12 -0800 ( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>H Subject: Files in a Windows machine recorded on CD to be read on OpenVMSC Message-ID: <1131452172.882084.316200@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   B I don't have internet access over my OpenVMS Station and I need toF install this Oracle RBD installation package which I downloaded into a Windows Machine.F Is it true that if I record it in CD I can read on the OpenVMS install@ it on the OpenVMS? Is there a way to copy it from the Windows to OpenVMS?   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:31:48 -0500- From: William Webb <william.w.webb@gmail.com> L Subject: Re: Files in a Windows machine recorded on CD to be read on OpenVMSI Message-ID: <8660a3a10511080631v254105f2qc3bfb9096d5b2eb8@mail.gmail.com>   E On 8 Nov 2005 04:16:12 -0800, pbritto <britto.paulo@gmail.com> wrote: D > I don't have internet access over my OpenVMS Station and I need toH > install this Oracle RBD installation package which I downloaded into a > Windows Machine.H > Is it true that if I record it in CD I can read on the OpenVMS install > it on the OpenVMS?  ' Unless it's a disk image, probably not.   - Is there a way to copy it from the Windows to 
 > OpenVMS? >  >   
 FTP, perhaps?    WWWebb   --C NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  correspondence. C All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for 8 services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at# http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:25:52 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> N Subject: Re: Microsoft File Format Conversions (was: Re: Posted under request), Message-ID: <4370A760.788E5B9A@teksavvy.com>   Hoff Hoffman wrote: @ >    http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware60/cdacvtlib022/@ >    http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware60/decwrite_rtf/  C The Cda converters at version 2.2 are the ones which predate Palmer C selling the product to some 3rd party company. As I recall it was a F german company. And they produced at least one new version of the word- converters before apparently abandonning VMS.   E Keypak was a different product (which had integration into ALL-IN-1).   J Teamlinks also has a whole bunch of file converters but they are PC based.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:28:12 GMT  From: danco@ns2.pebble.org3 Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support 1 Message-ID: <slrndn1k4g.afj.danco@ns2.pebble.org>   N In article <uO4cf.26167$j5.10811@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Alan Greig wrote:  H > So Microsoft won't even support developing applications on the Itanic I > now... Previous versions of Visual Studio supported Itanic. Guess that  E > fits in with their other recent Itanium retreats and now folks are  G > starting to find out just what Microsoft mean by only for "targetted  
 > workloads".   B Apparently now only the VS 2005 "enterprise" version ($$$$) can be installed on Itanium.  :-(   - Dan    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:21:28 -0500 3 From: Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@REMOVEintelME.com> 3 Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support 8 Message-ID: <gvq1n1th59ivhabtts8lp7jlk4ltd6871s@4ax.com>  K On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:58:02 GMT, Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net> wrote:   G >So Microsoft won't even support developing applications on the Itanic  = >now... Previous versions of Visual Studio supported Itanic.    M No they didn't.  They were IA-32 (x86) only.  Development was supported using H command-line tools using the Platform SDK. It is true that you could getF VS2002 or 2003 to install under x86 emulation, but they were still x86
 products.,   Steve Lionel Software Products Division Intel Corporation 
 Nashua, NH  8 User communities for Intel Software Development Products"   http://softwareforums.intel.com/ Intel Fortran Support 7   http://developer.intel.com/software/products/support/    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 00:40:23 -0800  From: dooleys@snowy.net.au! Subject: Re: Posted under request A Message-ID: <1131439223.016870.7010@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   B Why do you want to convert the pdf/word/excel files to postscript?@ As you say, the simplest solution would seem to be to define the? relevant printers on the windows machine(s) and allow the users  to print to them directly.? When the windows application generates reports, it would format B the print file based on the capabilities of the print driver used.D If the files were printable before being transferred to vms, and theB transfer was in binary, then you should be able to print using the. /passall parameter to the destination printer.E Have you looked in to using the scripting capabilities of reflection? C You could provide users with a "vms print" button in their session, < or do something more sophisticated to allow the selection of reports and/or printers etc. Phil   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 15:31:10 +0100 . From: huber@NOBODY-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)! Subject: Re: Posted under request + Message-ID: <4G9ky1OnA9So@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   f In article <1131414680_9433@spool6-east.superfeed.net>, "Richard Tomkins" <tomkinsr@istop.com> writes:   >   Types of help needed :" >   ------------------------------H >   a)I dont have any tool currently to convert Word/Excel to postscriptH >      - can someone point to me where I can get such a tool, preferablyH >        one that doesn't need compilation/linking, ie ready to use justK >        like the pdftops.exe that I've got.  So far I've found the pdftops I >        tool retains graphics like company logo/tables after conversion; ? >        hope that the Word to postscript tool will do likewise  > C Although I don't understand why not printing directly from Windows, M a minimal solution for word-doc to Postscript printing could be the Antiword   program, see my VMS port at &  http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/~huber/pds' or the version on the VMS freeware V7.  , It contains executables for Alpha VMS 7.3-1.   --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:04:47 -0500, From: "Richard Whalen" <WhalenR@process.com> Subject: Re: RCP issue, + Message-ID: <dkqba1$o79$1@news.process.com>   ? "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message % news:4370112C.2C1F13C5@comcast.net...  > Fred Jiang wrote:  > >  > > Hi, L > > I encounter a problem while I use RCP command on UNIX server to copy VMS > > file to UNIX server.D > > Let's say, Host A is a UNIX server , B is a VMS server which run Multinet to  > > support TCP/IP protocol.G > > on B: I create a file ".rhosts" under the default directory of user  "aa".  > > with content: 1 > > B.ap.aaa.net #(ap.aaa.net is the domain name) > > > add line "B.ap.aaa.net" to the file "multinet:hosts.equiv"@ > > then on UNIX box: I use command "$rcp aa@B:ops:[aa].rhosts .? > > Got information :"$ Set NoOn". But there is no file copied. 5 > > Is anyone know what's the problem due to? thanks, / > > Pls also advise how to resolve the problem?   G The "$Set NoOn" that you are seeing is due to either the sylogin.com or C the user's login.com having that command before it disables command  file verification.  ? Try adding the following as the first line in your sylogin.com:    $ verify = 'f$verify(0)    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:16:29 +0100( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement3 Message-ID: <001101c5e434$56807a60$994614ac@wat153>    Hello,  G a few years ago, I did see a hardware solution (RAIT0, 1 and 5 [T means F tapes}). IMHO tape RAITs are a good solution. Modern RAIDset do handleC disks with different sizes and will store all RAIDset relevant data F within first blocks of every disk. A future BACKUP RAITset could it doA too. The easiest way is to end if the first tape is full. Another G solution is like DLTsage, You will have a media information block(s) at E first. This block contains number of free blocks, error counter, etc. B For a RAITset it could be expanded wit a set identifier, number of members, RAIT level, etc.    Best regards R. Wingert    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2005 23:41:01 -0800  From: "R Boyd" <bob@hax.com>6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancementB Message-ID: <1131435661.781642.47790@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  D At a former customer site I adapted ABS to behave the same way usingG adaptive scheduling based on past performance data collected during the G backup runs.  The added benefit of this process was that the predictive A scheduling of backup tasks became a simple bin packing problem to D attempt to pack all of the backup streams into the shortest possible time window.  G This approach worked well -- it didn't have to be complicated since the C variability in amount of data backed up each time was sufficient to G make a close approximation good enough.  The main benefit was that more A often than not as many as 3 or 4 or 6 backup streams on any given ; system usually finished within 10-15 minutes of each other.   D Once upon a time a project manager for ABS came to visit us when ABSF was in its early days and promised us that ABS would have a capability? like this built into it.  Sad to say they never implemented it.   C ABS is pretty good for what it does, but it's kindof like OS/JCL -- C lots of bells and whistles that you have to stand on your head, pat G your tummy and whistle to make it roll over and sit up when you want it  to.   A I will admit -- that with the various design goals and strategies @ required to backup a wide variety of configurations and types ofG systems, it is challenging to build something that is easy to drive and ? smart at helping you make the process as efficient as possible.   E What I'd like to see is something with the relative ease and speed of B Legato Networker combined with the data reliability/recoverability? features of VMS Backup, and the smarts of Tapesys with built in - performance tracking and adaptive scheduling.   F I've worked with Tapesys in its early days, SLS, Networker, and ABS --C they all have some great features.  I just wish there was something > that combined all of the best features and lost the ugly ones.   Robert   Wayne Sewell wrote: 7 > >From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)  > >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms9 > >Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement   > >Date: 7 NOV 2005 11:19:48 GMT@ > >Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison >  > R > >In a previous article, "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_header@hp.com> wrote: > >  > >->Tape striping > >->------------------------  > >-> : > >->Backup of large data stores can be substantially sped8 > >->up by writing the save set to multiple tape drives. > >-> < > >->Restoring the saveset will require all tapes making the( > >->strip to be loaded into the drives. > >->  > >->What do you think?  > > B > >This one sounds very useful for cutting the backup window time.L > >As our SAN grows that's always the issue - will the full backups completeO > >before work starts tomorrow. Cutting that window in half would be a big win.  > > C > >I know that some EBS products do this but we'd rather stick with  > >VMS backup. > >  >  > O > My answer to the tape striping issue is the same as my earlier response about N > the tape shadowing issue: get tapesys to handle it for you.  Available right( > now, and currently running on itanium. > P > True, tapesys doesn't have actual tape striping as described above, but it hasP > another feature that can increase your backup throughput in a similar fashion: > parallel backups.  > M > Sure, tape striping would help when backing up a single large saveset.  But A > most sites have quite a few savesets that they want to back up.  > Q > The basic problem for a system manager to solve is: "I have a certain number of P > gigabytes on a certain number of disks that must all be backed up to tape on aM > certain schedule.  I want all these backups to be performed in the shortest  > possible time."  >  > K > As others have mentioned, and the original poster admitted, fanning out a K > single backup saveset to multiple drives greatly complicates the recovery 7 > process.  And only one saveset can be done at a time.  > O > If you have multiple tape drives available, the goal is simply to keep all of @ > them spinning at full speed until all of the backups are done. > Q > Having a number of *instances* of vms backup equal to the number of tape drives Q > will accomplish this as easily as tape striping, and the resultant savesets are O > exactly like the savesets we are now using.  When restoring, you only have to J > mount the one tape containing the beginning of the saveset.  If it spans, > volumes, backup will ask for the next one. > M > You have a list of disks to back up.  You break them up into a set of batch * > jobs equal to the number of tape drives. > P > Just writing the command procedures to do this will allow you to increase your > thoughput time.  > / > The disavantages to this manual approach are:  > N > 1.  you must keep track of which disks are in which backup job and make sure > all of them are accounted for  > L > 2.  you must do manual load balancing; if one backup job contains only bigO > disks and another only small ones, the tape drive assigned to the latter will N > finish way early and sit idle for hours while the other keeps grinding; eachA > backup job should roughly contain about the same amount of data  > O > 3.  if the backup load for a disk drastically changes (many files added, many 2 > files deleted) load rebalancing may be required. >  > L > You can do all this manually, or you can get tapesys and activate parallelP > backups.  Say you have 40 disks of varying sizes to back up and 5 tape drives. > I > You simply create a system backup file (.sbk) to define the backup job. : > Specify all 40 disks in whatever order you want and add: >  > $ parallel_backups == 1  > $ n_drives == 5  > N > Set it to kick off at a particular time via the builtin backup job scheduler > of tapesys and that's it.  >  > M > When the backup job starts, sysbak will notice that parallel backups are in O > effect, and kick off 5 clones of itself, one for each tape drive.  The master K > process will then begin assigning disks to back up, using the list in the J > parameter file.  Each clone will accept the next assignment, perform theQ > backup, and then ask for the next in the queue.  All five clones are doing this P > in parallel.  The tapes spin continuously.  If a clone gets a short backup, itP > is quickly back to ask for another.  If it gets a long backup, it grinds untilM > it is finished.  There is no idle time, until *all* backups have ether been M > done or are in progress.  As each clone runs out of backups, it terminates. - > When all clones are gone, so is the master.  >  > M > To me, this seems just as efficient as processing each saveset linearly and C > splitting it out to multiple drives.  And a lot less complicated.  >  > Wayne Q > =============================================================================== P > Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com: > http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 00:30:06 -0800 % From: "Antoniov" <antoniov@shs-av.it> 6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancementC Message-ID: <1131438606.843856.133560@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   E The /IGNORE=INTERLOCK qualifier may be very dangeorus because you can G save a file while somebody is writing in it. After restore you couldn't  read data from file!B I agree this is dangerous so in my mind VMS should make a snapshot before backup!   Antonio  http://it.openvms.org    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:35:08 -0500( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement/ Message-ID: <00A4C7C7.CA29EF0B.5@tachysoft.com>    >From: "R Boyd" <bob@hax.com>  >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms7 >Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement   >Date: 7 Nov 2005 23:41:01 -0800' >Organization: http://groups.google.com      > G >I've worked with Tapesys in its early days, SLS, Networker, and ABS -- D >they all have some great features.  I just wish there was something? >that combined all of the best features and lost the ugly ones.  >   O In the case of tapesys, it may be that some of the ugly features you recall are 
 gone already.   L Be aware that tapesys has changed a *lot* since its early days.  Even 5.2 isE ancient now, given the radical changes introduced with 6.x in *this*  M millenium.  For instance, the parallel backups mentioned earlier didn't exist I in 5.x, nor did support for ODS-5 and TCP/IP and ICC.  And early versions O certainly didn't have the backup API, so the entire backup mechanism is cleaner  now.    M I often have this problem.  A while back somebody who had used tapesys in the M eighties was posting that it was a great product, and it would be even better K if <annoying-behavior> could be changed.  I would reply "Uh, it hasn't done @ that for about 14 years now.  So consider your request granted."   Wayne O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== P Jake Blues:"You traded the Caddy for a microphone? ...... Okay, I can buy that."   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:45:00 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement+ Message-ID: <3tbrvdFs3hbcU1@individual.net>    Wayne Sewell wrote:   
 <big snip>  J > You simply create a system backup file (.sbk) to define the backup job. : > Specify all 40 disks in whatever order you want and add: >  > $ parallel_backups == 1  > $ n_drives == 5  > N > Set it to kick off at a particular time via the builtin backup job scheduler > of tapesys and that's it.  >  > M > When the backup job starts, sysbak will notice that parallel backups are in O > effect, and kick off 5 clones of itself, one for each tape drive.  The master K > process will then begin assigning disks to back up, using the list in the J > parameter file.  Each clone will accept the next assignment, perform theQ > backup, and then ask for the next in the queue.  All five clones are doing this P > in parallel.  The tapes spin continuously.  If a clone gets a short backup, itP > is quickly back to ask for another.  If it gets a long backup, it grinds untilM > it is finished.  There is no idle time, until *all* backups have ether been N > done or are in progress.  As each clone runs out of backups, it terminates. - > When all clones are gone, so is the master.  >   H What if you have a variety of tape drives, some the latest and fastest, - others older, slower, but still going strong?   B Can you send certain disks which need to be available ASAP to the  fastest drives?    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 06:41:34 -0800 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancementB Message-ID: <1131460894.874632.63900@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Antoniov wrote: G > The /IGNORE=INTERLOCK qualifier may be very dangeorus because you can I > save a file while somebody is writing in it. After restore you couldn't  > read data from file!D > I agree this is dangerous so in my mind VMS should make a snapshot > before backup! > 	 > Antonio  > http://it.openvms.org     F But if you don't use /IGNORE=INTERLOCK and the file is open for write,B it won't be saved at all! What if the file in question is open for@ write, but no one is writing to it? Then you've missed copying aF perfectly good file. And after restore, you won't be able to read data0 from the file, because it won't be there at all!  D So it's "dangerous" either way. But with /IGNORE=INTERLOCK, at least? there's a chance you'll get a good copy. Without it, you've got  nothing.  < The important thing is too be aware of this problem and take appropriate measures.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 08:40:15 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement3 Message-ID: <zTjhzkSiG7mf@eisner.encompasserve.org>   k In article <1131438606.843856.133560@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Antoniov" <antoniov@shs-av.it> writes: G > The /IGNORE=INTERLOCK qualifier may be very dangeorus because you can I > save a file while somebody is writing in it. After restore you couldn't  > read data from file!D > I agree this is dangerous so in my mind VMS should make a snapshot > before backup!  H The recommended snapshot is to dismount the disk and mount it privately.  F For situations where that is not possible, there is nothing worthwhileF for VMS to do automatically, since the problem is too complex.  BeyondC the simple issue of consistency within a file when backing up index D structures as well as data, there is also the problem of consistencyC between files which have related data and need to be backed up in a 7 consistent fashion, even if they are on separate disks.   A So at this point, a human who understands the applications on the D machine must design a backup plan that will work.  When implementingB that plan, the technique of making shadow copies and removing themC from the shadow set for the backup has proven a useful tool for the 4 task, but no complete solution from VMS is possible.  A The bitmap processing for shadow sets added in recent years helps B to make the shadow set manipulation run more quickly, but no fullyC automated general backup mechanism for complex systems is possible.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:11:07 -0500( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement/ Message-ID: <00A4C7DD.948A745E.1@tachysoft.com>   ' >From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>  >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms7 >Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement & >Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:45:00 +0100     >Wayne Sewell wrote: >  ><big snip>  > K >> You simply create a system backup file (.sbk) to define the backup job.  ; >> Specify all 40 disks in whatever order you want and add:  >>   >> $ parallel_backups == 1 >> $ n_drives == 5 >>  O >> Set it to kick off at a particular time via the builtin backup job scheduler  >> of tapesys and that's it. >>   >>  N >> When the backup job starts, sysbak will notice that parallel backups are inP >> effect, and kick off 5 clones of itself, one for each tape drive.  The masterL >> process will then begin assigning disks to back up, using the list in theK >> parameter file.  Each clone will accept the next assignment, perform the R >> backup, and then ask for the next in the queue.  All five clones are doing thisQ >> in parallel.  The tapes spin continuously.  If a clone gets a short backup, it Q >> is quickly back to ask for another.  If it gets a long backup, it grinds until N >> it is finished.  There is no idle time, until *all* backups have ether beenO >> done or are in progress.  As each clone runs out of backups, it terminates.  . >> When all clones are gone, so is the master. >>   > I >What if you have a variety of tape drives, some the latest and fastest,  . >others older, slower, but still going strong? > C >Can you send certain disks which need to be available ASAP to the   >fastest drives?  O There is currently no mechanism for this built into parallel backups.  The pool M of drives to use in a sysbak is specified by the "media type" associated with O the job.  For instance, a media type of DLT3XT would have a list of drives that O could operate at that density.  As this point, there is a single media type for M the whole job.  The list is just a list; there is no mechanism for "preferred  drives".  H Such a mechanism could certainly be requested via the enhancement list. @ Parallel backups itself came about from such a customer request.  M In the meantime, there is a way to do pretty much what you want, if you don't F mind splitting the priority and regular disks into two backup jobs andM splitting the fast and slow drives in a similar fashion.  Without knowing the M exact disk and drive ratios, it is hard to predict whether this would help or  not.  O Anyway, you would create two media types instead of one: FAST_DLT and SLOW_DLT. J You would assign the drives to the two lists accordingly.  Then create twoL backup jobs, one containing the hot backups and and using the FAST_DLT mediaJ type.  The other job would back up the regular stuff with the slow drives.    2 Say you had five fast drives and five slow drives.  C $ tape oper add/media=fast_dlt/drives=(drive1,drive2, ...)/phys=dlt C $ tape oper add/media=slow_dlt/drives=(drive1,drive2, ...)/phys=dlt   K (In this simple scenario, we will ignore other possible qualifiers, such as   /location, /density, and /node.)  K So then you have two backup definition (.sbk) files instead of one, and two  independent jobs.    Both .sbk files contain    $ parallel_backups == 1  $ n_drives == 5   % as before, but different media types:    $ media_type == "fast_dlt"   and    $ media_type == "slow_dlt"    3 and different lists of disks to back up, of course.   L Basically the hot backups would compete with each other for the fast drives,2 and the less critical backups for the slow drives.   Wayne O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== P Jake Blues:"You traded the Caddy for a microphone? ...... Okay, I can buy that."   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:25:26 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement$ Message-ID: <dkqqim$7kq$3@online.de>  2 In article <1131381453.181142@smirk>, Alan Frisbie* <Usenet02_REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> writes:   < > I am concerned about the possible increased risk caused by= > a damaged tape.   If by "striping", you mean writing pieces < > of each file on different tapes (like disk striping), then= > a single bad tape means (I think) that you lose everything.  > ; > For example, let's say that a disk backup takes two tapes : > to hold everything.   Half of the files are on the first@ > tape and half are on the second (ignoring boundary conditions,= > etc.).   If the second tape is damaged, but my desired file + > is on the first one, I can restore it OK.  > : > If striping causes pieces of my file to be spread across; > two tapes, then no files from either tape can be restored  > if one tape is bad.  >  > Can you address this fear?   Parity tape?  :-)    ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:29:01 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement$ Message-ID: <dkqqpc$7kq$4@online.de>  E In article <1131384044.504645.52550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "R  Boyd" <bob@hax.com> writes:   C > If /IGNORE=INTERLOCK won't be supported, and there is no snapshot A > service available, VMS backups will become nearly impossible to  > accomplish in 24x7x365 shops.   E If it is literally 24x7x365, then yes.  However, if you can shut off  H disk access long enough to cleanly break a shadow set, then there is no $ problem (especially using MINICOPY).   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:07:43 +00001 From: vesko <vesko.1y69gz@nomx.sysadminforum.com> 7 Subject: Re: secure web server adn php for openvms 7.3? 1 Message-ID: <vesko.1y69gz@nomx.sysadminforum.com>    Doc Wrote:   > H > Unless there's a hardware dependency on the version, post your generalG > location and a workable email address.  The odds of there being a VMS H > Evangelist with a more recent version in your area might be good.  ForG > hobbyist purposes nobody minds you getting copies from a friend, or a  > friend's work. > Doc.  E I live in Bulgaria. I already have contacted here some people who may 9 find a newer version but still nothing. Here is my email:  kenashkovatgmaildotcom  B If there is somebody from Bulgaria who can help please contact me.     --   vesko " posted via http://sysdminforum.com   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:25:11 +0000 (UTC)( From: m.kraemer@gsi.de (Michael Kraemer)F Subject: Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?5 Message-ID: <dkq1un$h9i$1@lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>   M In article <1131402044.872434.225860@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "pbritto"   <britto.paulo@gmail.com> writes:E > The seller told me it's SN-PBXGI-AA which is a PowerStorm 4D40T PCI F > SXGA. I am using a SVGA video, he said he heard rumors of this boardF > doesn't work with SVGA videos? bottomline? Is anything wrong between' > OpenVMS 7.1-H2 and this graphic card?   F Rule of thumb is: stay away from cards ending with "T" (as the 4D40T),7 they are not supported under VMS (but are under Tru64). L The selection of gfx cards in alpha machines supported by VMS (as opposed toK Tru64) is very limited. Might have to do with the fact that only few people 4 still chose VMS as a workstation OS during the 90s. G You may google this group, there was a discussion on supported gfx some 
 time ago.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 03:35:26 -0800 ( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>F Subject: Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?C Message-ID: <1131449726.609016.246340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   F So it's not supported!! it's not good that it doesn't but on the other< side now it answers why it's not working and it wasn't a badF installation procedure. Would that explain why I can't use the EDIT to? edit files ? it always retrieves the message "SYS$INPUT must be  supported CRT".    Steven M. Schweda wrote:* > From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com> > G > > The seller told me it's SN-PBXGI-AA which is a PowerStorm 4D40T PCI H > > SXGA. I am using a SVGA video, he said he heard rumors of this boardH > > doesn't work with SVGA videos? bottomline? Is anything wrong between) > > OpenVMS 7.1-H2 and this graphic card?  > G >    It's not one of the supported cards.  Tru64 or Windows, maybe, but 7 > not VMS.  Impressive looking thing, though, isn't it?  > I >    It may not be an official "SN-PBXGI-AA/AB/AC".  Mine has a prominent B > "digital" label on the back with that notation.  It also has theG > daughter card near the flange, and memory modules in their slots, but D > there are still spots where more chips could have been placed.  It0 > might be a nice card if it worked (under VMS). > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 6 >    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98185 >    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org  >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:40:43 +0200 4 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com>F Subject: Re: Should I have DECWindows running when I boot the OpenVMS?& Message-ID: <4370C6FB.53636592@hp.com>   pbritto wrote: >  > Michael Moroney wrote:. > > "pbritto" <britto.pa...@gmail.com> writes: >   9 > When a do a $ SHOW DEVICE G it retrieves GUA0 offiline. H > WINDOWS_SYSTEM is set to 1 too. I've the OPEN3D licensed on my machine  :                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^& Have you installed the Open3D product?# Its in the layered products CD set.  Mike   --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 05:29:45 -0800 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>! Subject: Re: VMS magtape handling 0 Message-ID: <BF95E849.17867%roktsci@comcast.net>  G On 11/8/05 12:15 AM, in article dkpldj$af1$1@info.service.rug.nl, "Fred   Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> wrote:  7 > "Michael Kraemer" <m.kraemer@gsi.de> wrote in message 1 > news:dknf9j$ep0$1@lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de... 5 >> In article <1131328642.114379@smirk>, Alan Frisbie , >> <Usenet02_REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> writes:> >>> Not always true!   If you have an ANSI-formatted mag tape,A >>> and one of the files is empty (has no records), you will have 4 >>> two tape marks with no intervening data records. >>   >> How can that occur ? I >> On an ANSI label tape even an (data-wise) empty file still should have D >> its header records with e.g. its name. Only the user data portion
 >> is empty.  J >> So two consecutive EOFs make up an EOT, there's no way around it, IMHO.: >> Of course tape salvaging tools might try to skip beyondB >> erroneously placed EOTs to see if there's data to be recovered. >>   > " > A file on tape looks as follows: > 
 > Header data  > Tape mark  > User data  > Tape mark  > Trailer data > Tape mark  > N > So, if the user data portion is empty, there are two consecutive tape marks,' > but they are not the end of the tape.  > (EOFs in your terminology.)  >  > F.Z.1 More Specifically the ANSI tape specification is:   
 Volume Header 	 Tape Mark  File Header 	 Tape Mark 	 File Data 	 Tape Mark  File Header 	 Tape Mark 	 File Data 	 Tape Mark   I And for each logical ANSI file on the tape consists of the File Header, a I tape mark, the file data, and a tape mark, with a double tape mark at the  end.  L Yes you can have a double tape mark imbedded that is not the physical end ofD volume. In this case it is always after the file header, which, whenJ properly read tells you that the upcoming file data has no records. So you) know it is not the logical end of volume.   J A double mark following the file data portion always is the logical end of volume.   J This is, of course, only when you have the tape volume mounted foreign. IfL you have the volume mounted without the /FORIGN qualifier, you don't have toJ worry about this as it is handled by the VMS ANSI Tape ACP, and the volume. looks like a sequential file oriented storage.   Jeff   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:41:57 +0100% From: "Fred Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> ! Subject: Re: VMS magtape handling . Message-ID: <dkqfi8$i9u$1@info.service.rug.nl>  7 "Jeff Cameron" <roktsci@comcast.net> wrote in message = * news:BF95E849.17867%roktsci@comcast.net...E > On 11/8/05 12:15 AM, in article dkpldj$af1$1@info.service.rug.nl, =  "Fred " > Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> wrote: >=208 >> "Michael Kraemer" <m.kraemer@gsi.de> wrote in message2 >> news:dknf9j$ep0$1@lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de...6 >>> In article <1131328642.114379@smirk>, Alan Frisbie- >>> <Usenet02_REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> writes: ? >>>> Not always true!   If you have an ANSI-formatted mag tape, B >>>> and one of the files is empty (has no records), you will have5 >>>> two tape marks with no intervening data records.  >>>=20 >>> How can that occur ?G >>> On an ANSI label tape even an (data-wise) empty file still should =  haveE >>> its header records with e.g. its name. Only the user data portion  >>> is empty.=20G >>> So two consecutive EOFs make up an EOT, there's no way around it, =  IMHO. ; >>> Of course tape salvaging tools might try to skip beyond C >>> erroneously placed EOTs to see if there's data to be recovered.  >>>=20 >>=20 # >> A file on tape looks as follows:  >>=20  >> Header data >> Tape mark >> User data >> Tape mark >> Trailer data  >> Tape mark >>=20 J >> So, if the user data portion is empty, there are two consecutive tape = marks,( >> but they are not the end of the tape. >> (EOFs in your terminology.) >>=20  >> F.Z. 3 > More Specifically the ANSI tape specification is:  >=20 > Volume Header 3 > Tape Mark                            <---F.Z. (1) 
 > File Header  > Tape Mark  > File Data  > Tape Mark 1 > File Header                        <---F.Z. (2)  > Tape Mark  > File Data  > Tape Mark  >=20C > And for each logical ANSI file on the tape consists of the File = 	 Header, a I > tape mark, the file data, and a tape mark, with a double tape mark at =  the  > end. >=20I > Yes you can have a double tape mark imbedded that is not the physical =  end ofF > volume. In this case it is always after the file header, which, whenJ > properly read tells you that the upcoming file data has no records. So = you + > know it is not the logical end of volume.  >=20G > A double mark following the file data portion always is the logical =  end of" > volume.             <---F.Z. (3) >=20B > This is, of course, only when you have the tape volume mounted = foreign. If H > you have the volume mounted without the /FORIGN qualifier, you don't = have to G > worry about this as it is handled by the VMS ANSI Tape ACP, and the =  volume0 > looks like a sequential file oriented storage. >=20 > Jeff  I (1) There is no tape mark between the Volume header (VOL) and the first =  File=20 
 header (HDR). J (2) Between the file data of the first file and the header of the second = file, D there is a portion with a file trailer for the first file (the EOF = section),=200 containing, amongst others, size information.=20J This trailer section is also separated from the other sections with tape = marks.E (3) No. A double tape mark following the data section is illegal, a =  double@ tape mark following the EOF section marks the end of the volume.  A For the rest your are right, but did not mention these details=20 : because I thought they were not relevant for the question.     F.Z.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 07:54:05 +0100( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>< Subject: Re: ZFS from Sun, what's about a new FS for OpenVMS3 Message-ID: <000c01c5e431$35b1eab0$994614ac@wat153>    Hello,   Steven M. Schweda wrotes:   D > About which 32-bit limit are you talking?  Are you bothered by the# > file_size > 1TB problem, or what?   G With 32 birs you can address 4G blocks or 2TB. In case of this the max. E volume size is two terabyte. You can expand the blocksize (e.g. 32768 G bytes = 1 block), but then you ill loose a lot of diskspace if you have  small files.   Best regards R. Wingert    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 11:08:52 GMT . From: JONESD@ecr6.ohio-state.edu (David Jones)< Subject: Re: ZFS from Sun, what's about a new FS for OpenVMS: Message-ID: <dkq104$ph4$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  5 In message <slrndn0ern.s0c.usenet@zappy.catbert.org>, )   Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> writes: I >For SCSI, there are '300' GB drives available now. For Serial ATA, there I >are 500 GB drives available now. And, naturally, you easily exceed these B >today with certain setups, such as a stripe-set or RAID-5 volume.  F We got our first multi-terabyte raid (SATA drives) last spring, it wasD definitely annoying to partition the RAID sets into pieces no larger$ than 1 TB so VMS could deal with it.  H Speaking of lead times, last month we got a DS400 with 40 drives but youH can't create a RAID set on it larger than 2 TB (7 drives).  IBM's excuseE was that the version of Linux the controllers use has a 32 bit limit.       < David L. Jones               |      Phone:    (614) 271-6718- Ohio State University        |      Internet: L 140 W. 19th St.              |               jonesd@er6s1.eng.ohio-state.edu: Columbus, OH 43210           |               vman+@osu.edu  1 Disclaimer: I'm looking for marbles all day long.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2005 05:39:43 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com < Subject: Re: ZFS from Sun, what's about a new FS for OpenVMSB Message-ID: <1131457183.738573.39190@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>  A why does vms engineering need to be told something that obviously C is going to be needed if not now in the very near future?  And from F some of the posts in this thread, it already sounds like it is needed!  @ What are you going to say when a potential customer wants it but* you lose a sale because you don't have it?  ; You need to have vision and develop and enhance be like the  old vms engineering of old ...   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:34:00 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>< Subject: Re: ZFS from Sun, what's about a new FS for OpenVMS+ Message-ID: <3tbrapFrudl6U1@individual.net>    David Jones wrote:7 > In message <slrndn0ern.s0c.usenet@zappy.catbert.org>, + >   Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> writes:  > J >>For SCSI, there are '300' GB drives available now. For Serial ATA, thereJ >>are 500 GB drives available now. And, naturally, you easily exceed theseC >>today with certain setups, such as a stripe-set or RAID-5 volume.  >  > H > We got our first multi-terabyte raid (SATA drives) last spring, it wasF > definitely annoying to partition the RAID sets into pieces no larger& > than 1 TB so VMS could deal with it. > J > Speaking of lead times, last month we got a DS400 with 40 drives but youJ > can't create a RAID set on it larger than 2 TB (7 drives).  IBM's excuseG > was that the version of Linux the controllers use has a 32 bit limit.  >   E Obvious question here: What is the maximum supported size on VMS for  B mounting a remote NFS volume? Yes, there may be inherent platform ( independent limits in NFS itself, but...  I The paricularly nasty thing here is that you can be happily using an NFS  I volume on a remote system which is owned and managed by someone else. In  G this situation it is perfectly possible that they will expand its size  H overnight, and poof, it goes over a limit assumed/supported by your own 
 system(s).  G Yes, BTDT several years ago, although fortunately in that case the only A problem was a disk space monitor which suddenly suffered integer    overflows, and was easily fixed.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.624 ************************