1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 10 Nov 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 628       Contents:P Re: (TCPWARE? Multinet?) Re: EXQUOTA with TCP/IP $QIO io$_acpcontrol gethostbyna7 Re: ??==TLZ10 = HP Compaq Storagworks DAT 12/24 GB DDS3 7 Re: ??==TLZ10 = HP Compaq Storagworks DAT 12/24 GB DDS3 0 Re: error modifying OPA0: error message on login? Re: failSAFE IP - Looks good! Who's using it? (and why/why-not) ? Re: failSAFE IP - Looks good! Who's using it? (and why/why-not) " Re: File spec wildcard match test?" Re: File spec wildcard match test?" Re: File spec wildcard match test?" Re: File spec wildcard match test?. RE: FW: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support. Re: FW: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support. Re: FW: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support6 Re: HP C v7.1 for OpenVMS 8.2 Alpha.... install files?6 Re: HP C v7.1 for OpenVMS 8.2 Alpha.... install files?6 Re: HP C v7.1 for OpenVMS 8.2 Alpha.... install files?6 Re: HP C v7.1 for OpenVMS 8.2 Alpha.... install files? Re: NetBeans Porting to Alpha then I64 - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement - Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement " Re: Setting Up OS On My Alpha-4100 Re: TCPIP startup $ Re: What FC card for VMS on Itanium?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:10:23 -0500 , From: "Richard Whalen" <WhalenR@process.com>Y Subject: Re: (TCPWARE? Multinet?) Re: EXQUOTA with TCP/IP $QIO io$_acpcontrol gethostbyna + Message-ID: <dkvkcm$iqu$1@news.process.com>   > "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote in message+ news:dkukoa$lp9$1@news-02.connect.com.au... 
 > Hi Hein, > > > > The good news is that I am now available for your projects > @ > Oh Great. As if the market needs more avaiable VMS experts :-( > G > The good news is, I've heard that you're rubbish and your team's been J > carrying you all these years and that they can't wait to see the back of ya4 > :-) Anyway, it's good to see you staying with VMS. > J > Speaking of which, can anyone vouch for the io$_acpcontrol gethostbyname@ > (hostent_offset) behaving the same way or having the same size
 restrictions, F > with TCPWARE and Multinet? I remember them as being fairly different beastsJ > at one time but I don't have them handy on a test box at the moment. I'mA > subtracting 256 (possible o/head bytes) from SYI$_MAXBUF giving G > maximum_hostent_size. Will this only work with UCX? or are there more ? > ss$_badparam and ss$_exquota traps lurking around the corner?  >   L Though I haven't tested the limits of size of the buffer for this operation,I  believe that TCPware and MultiNet will have the same restriction (MAXBUF B minus some small amount) as they are also buffered I/O operations.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:18:50 +0100 , From: "H. M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de>@ Subject: Re: ??==TLZ10 = HP Compaq Storagworks DAT 12/24 GB DDS37 Message-ID: <aus-46FBE8.10185010112005@news.cis.dfn.de>   + In article <3tem06Frpi9hU1@individual.net>, (  Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch> wrote:   ... F > Parity errors I have seen, but only as a result of using DDS2 tapes N > which I suspected were well used. A cleaning tape has been the answer there.     Peter,  F On the SCSI ID select jumper connector there is one PIN pair labelled  SCSI parity enable.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:05:40 +0100 , From: "H. M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de>@ Subject: Re: ??==TLZ10 = HP Compaq Storagworks DAT 12/24 GB DDS37 Message-ID: <aus-80E470.14054010112005@news.cis.dfn.de>   C In article <1130621502.341274.159140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,   bob@instantwhip.com wrote:   7 > Sony SDT9000s are TLZ10s ... just set the jumpers for   > vms and they are identical ...   Bob,  ? are these vms jumpers on the EOD003 and where are they located?   < Are these the very small jumpers on the bottom of the drive?  A It seems I solved the parity problem. The brand new tape which I  I initially used to test the drive had been lying near my CRT for at least  	 one year.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:46:41 -0500 * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>9 Subject: Re: error modifying OPA0: error message on login , Message-ID: <43734f42$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  3 "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com> wrote in message = news:1131450113.556011.100190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... , > When I login I get the 2 following errors:& > %SET-W-NOTSET, error modifying OPA0:' > -SET-I-UNKTERM, unknown terminal type  > F > I was told (thanks for this group) that the graphic card I've got isH > not supported by OpenVMS a PowerStorm. Is this a configuration problem > or it's the card fault?  > H > By the way, I think this is the same reason why I can start the EDIT?! > 	 >  Thanks  >   L When an unsupported graphics card with a valid VGA mode is used as a consoleJ to boot VMS, the runtime I/O to the card is purely via firmware callbacks. There F is no ANSI or otherwise CRT emulation available - it is a "glass TTY".  I If the card is supported by VMS for VGA/Graphics - the screen will change I during the boot and display a "OpenVMS Console" message on the 25th line. E If this line is displayed, the graphics driver has a rudimentary VT52  emulatorE built-in.  You can use SET TERM/DEV=VT52 to allow the use of EDIT/EDT & when in the non-graphics console mode.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:35:04 -0600 ' From: Dave Harrold <DHarrold@wi.rr.com> H Subject: Re: failSAFE IP - Looks good! Who's using it? (and why/why-not)8 Message-ID: <kqp6n1tp1ismdt24bs7katn9n8ffahga7t@4ax.com>  3 On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:19:55 +0800, "Richard Maher" $ <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:   >Hi, > H >I came across this "failSAFE IP" documentation the other day and becameA >quite interested in the functionality that it provides. My brief K >understanding is that when an interface (or whole other node in a cluster) J >dies it can automatically ifconfig its IP address to another interface inL >the same box (or other box in the cluster). And when the original interfaceL >becomes available again then it fails back seemlessly-like. Does that sound
 >about right?  > I >Leaving aside cluster-aliases and DNS load-balancing servers and all the I >other good IP-clustering stuff for the moment, is anyone out there using & >failSAFE? Any brick-bats or bouquets?    E Yes, we are using it in our production cluster.  We have 2 interfaces D into the public side of our network, each to a different switch.  ByD setting up failsafe IP, we have been able to survive various netowrkE maintenance activities by maunally failing over the interfaces to the  still working network path.   C We have also survived various failures (hate when someone pulls the 6 wrong network cable out) with out any loss of service.   Very cool stuff!  F One problem we ran in to was the use of the dedicated lock manager. WeE use the lock manager on out application nodes and the locking done to F make failsafe IP work had a problem with it.  Basically, it would moveE the address, but you would never be able to move it back.  If you use D the dedicated lock manager, there is a fix available.  If you don't, never mind. :-)    > F >You're normally all over this sort of stuff Kerry; thumbs up or down? >  >Regards Richard Maher >    Hope that helps,   Dave Harrold  N ..............................................................................F David Harrold                         E-Mail: David.Harrold@aurora.org Lead Software Systems Engineer   Aurora Health Care 3031 W. Montana Street Milwaukee, WI 53215    ------------------------------   Date: 10 NOV 2005 10:21:06 GMT4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)H Subject: Re: failSAFE IP - Looks good! Who's using it? (and why/why-not)6 Message-ID: <10NOV05.10210648@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>  B I've been using this (two interfaces on the same box) since it wasC available. Works like a charm - really impresses the network types.   A Here's an example of what's in the operator log during a failover  on TCPIP V5.4 ECO4:   E %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   8-JUN-2005 11:25:59.24  %%%%%%%%%%%    (from ... ' Message from user TCPIP$FSAFE on NODE_A ) TCPIP-I-FAILSAFE, WE1 - ifconfig WE1 fail   E %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   8-JUN-2005 11:25:59.39  %%%%%%%%%%%    (from ... $ Message from user INTERnet on NODE_A. %TCPIP-W-FSINTUNAVL, WE1 interface unavailable  F %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   8-JUN-2005 11:25:59.39  %%%%%%%%%%%    (from ... $ Message from user INTERnet on NODE_AS %TCPIP-I-FSIPADDRUP, WE0 192.168.120.100 alias active on node NODE_A, interface WE0   F %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   8-JUN-2005 11:25:59.65  %%%%%%%%%%%    (from ... ' Message from user TCPIP$FSAFE on NODE_A E TCPIP-I-FAILSAFE, WE1 - route add -net default 192.168.120.1 -dev WE0    --G -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison ; --                  karcher.noremorespam@waisman.wisc.edu     - In a previous article, "Richard Maher" wrote:   I ->I came across this "failSAFE IP" documentation the other day and became B ->quite interested in the functionality that it provides. My briefL ->understanding is that when an interface (or whole other node in a cluster)K ->dies it can automatically ifconfig its IP address to another interface in M ->the same box (or other box in the cluster). And when the original interface M ->becomes available again then it fails back seemlessly-like. Does that sound  ->about right? ->  J ->Leaving aside cluster-aliases and DNS load-balancing servers and all theJ ->other good IP-clustering stuff for the moment, is anyone out there using' ->failSAFE? Any brick-bats or bouquets?    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Nov 2005 23:03:06 -0800  From: dbsneddon@bigpond.com + Subject: Re: File spec wildcard match test? C Message-ID: <1131606186.847757.155530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   A In recent version of VMS there are the UTIL$* routines documented ' in the OpenVMS Utility Routines Manual. < I don't think they are available as far back as V5.4 though.   Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:15:30 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> + Subject: Re: File spec wildcard match test? , Message-ID: <4372F384.CD8F305E@teksavvy.com>   "Steven M. Schweda" wrote:H >    Is there an easy way (RMS service, or something else already extantB > in VMS V5.4, say) to test a particular file spec against a given, > wildcard file spec?  That is, for example:   HELP RTL STR STR$MATCH_WILD    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:55:53 -0500 4 From: "Peter Weaver" <newsgroup@weaverconsulting.ca>+ Subject: Re: File spec wildcard match test? 9 Message-ID: <JjIcf.17035$EK.356135@news20.bellglobal.com>   ( <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> wrote in message= news:1131606186.847757.155530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... C > In recent version of VMS there are the UTIL$* routines documented ) > in the OpenVMS Utility Routines Manual. > > I don't think they are available as far back as V5.4 though. >  > Dave >   G UTIL$CQUAL* to be a bit more specific, IIRC they were released with V7.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:56:58 -0500 4 From: "Peter Weaver" <newsgroup@weaverconsulting.ca>+ Subject: Re: File spec wildcard match test? 9 Message-ID: <%cJcf.17054$EK.360242@news20.bellglobal.com>   ? "Peter Weaver" <newsgroup@weaverconsulting.ca> wrote in message 3 news:JjIcf.17035$EK.356135@news20.bellglobal.com... * > <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> wrote in message? > news:1131606186.847757.155530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... E > > In recent version of VMS there are the UTIL$* routines documented + > > in the OpenVMS Utility Routines Manual. @ > > I don't think they are available as far back as V5.4 though. > >  > > Dave > >  > I > UTIL$CQUAL* to be a bit more specific, IIRC they were released with V7.   K Sorry, I was distracted there, what I meant to type before posting was that K I recall being told that the routines were in prior versions of VMS but not K documented. You might want to run a few tests and see if they were in V5.4.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:15:35 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> 7 Subject: RE: FW: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB70CBA6@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----9 > From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com]=20 ! > Sent: November 9, 2005 10:54 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 9 > Subject: Re: FW: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support  >=20 > "Main, Kerry" wrote:C > > Oh Oh, better tell IBM to give up on Power5 as Microsoft is not + > > investing much in that platform either.  >=20G > Microsoft long ago dropped support for the Power architecture.  Power  > and MIPS went before Alpha.  >=20 >=20H > MS is good to hedge its bets and support some new architecture in case@ > that architecture takes off, but if after a few years, that=20 > architectureA > don't have much high-volume future, MS drops support. IT has=20 
 > done so for 5 > Power, for MIPS, for Alpha and will do so for IA64.  >=20  / Mmm... Lets not try and rewrite history here ..   H IBM (Power), MIPS and Compaq (Alpha) dropped Windows as they did all theG more painful OS porting work (including patches and service packs) with E Microsoft getting all the OS revenue. It was only after these vendors E dropped support publicly, did Microsoft then announce it was also not / going to support those platforms in the future.   F As far as I know (but wiling to be corrected), IA64 and x86-64 are the= first 64bit platforms where Microsoft is doing the Windows OS  down-n-dirty porting work.  A As most folks on this list are aware, getting an OS to "run" on a F platform is a long, long way from making it scalable (including largerH than 4cpu SMP and clusters), stable, good performance and relatively bugB free that would meet Customer requirements for large scale mission critical computing.    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:02:01 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 7 Subject: Re: FW: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support , Message-ID: <437344BF.5DA989A2@teksavvy.com>   "Main, Kerry" wrote:J > IBM (Power), MIPS and Compaq (Alpha) dropped Windows as they did all the > more painful OS porting work  G Politics. Fact is that Windows NT was available on MIPS and PowerPC and E support was widthdranw. You say it was SGI for MIPS and IBM for Power F (why not Apple ?), I say it is Microsoft. It doesn't really matter whoD really made the decision and who made the announcement, fact is thatG support was widthdrawn, partly because it was never high enough volume.   E MS isn't about to support and pay for continued support on a platform 2 that isn't growing and expanding its market niche.  H > As far as I know (but wiling to be corrected), IA64 and x86-64 are the? > first 64bit platforms where Microsoft is doing the Windows OS  > down-n-dirty porting work.  F Maybe. Maybe not. When you consider the type of sweet deals Intel gaveD Digital/compaq to kill Alpha and port VMS to that IA64 thing, do youF reall think that Hp/Intel didn't give MS some sweat deal to contribute' to porting Windows to that IA64 thing ?   G What is probably happening here is that the Intel subsidies for Windows D on IA64 are running out, so MS is pulling out of that platform whichE isn't strategic or making enough money for MS to bother with.  In the F end, if MS could make tons of money and grow Windows on IA64, it wouldH do so and would market the hell out of that platform and not allow HP orH Intel to spread rumours about IA64's market potential being limited only to super computers.   F Last year, when HP and Intel started to send strong messages that IA64B just wouldn't be "industry standard" and would have limited marketE niche, you can bet that Microsoft was already fully aware of what was H really going on. And look at how quickly MS announced that Windows would/ support the 64 bit 8086 at about the same time.    ------------------------------   Date: 10 Nov 2005 13:40:08 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)7 Subject: Re: FW: OT: Microsoft drop more Itanic support + Message-ID: <3th0toFt0felU1@individual.net>   R In article <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB70CB9D@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>,* 	"Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> writes: > A > Oh Oh, better tell IBM to give up on Power5 as Microsoft is not , > investing much in that platform either.=20 > J > Same with Sun - I am sure they will be very upset that Microsoft has not" > decided to do anything on SPARC. > ) > [could not resist ...insert flames ...]  >  >:-)  E Good thing you thought to put the smiley there.  Everybody knows that E neither IBM nor Sun have staked their existence on riding Microsoft's  coat-tails, like Intel and HP.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:38:50 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>? Subject: Re: HP C v7.1 for OpenVMS 8.2 Alpha.... install files? , Message-ID: <_VBcf.73400$An6.50733@trnddc08>   rcyoung wrote:I > I am in the situation of having a license for this as a member of DSPP,  > but no media.  > E > Since I only need the install files for the single product, I would E > rather not go direct to HP and purchase the entire set of "software H > product CDs" to obtain just the one set of files ( they no longer haveC > the software subscription service where you automatically get the I > updates delivered to you quarterly so now you have to "scrounge or buy" # > the update CDs to get the media).  >   C I don't think this is true.  At least, we got the Q3 (Sept) SPL via D DSPP.  There was some big delay on the previous set (June, Q2) whichC I think was due to a change in the internal procedures for ordering @ kits that didn't account for DSPP.  The last two times we've gotG emails saying we would be invoiced for the kits we had ordered followed C immediately by a 2nd email from the DSPP folks telling us to ignore D the 1st email.  We haven't actually been charged anything apart from! the annual DSPP subscription fee.   A If you aren't getting your kits, you should call the DSPP people. $ There's an 800 number 1-800-249-3294  @ There was some very confusing stuff on the web site, but I think> the bottom line is now instead of selling you the licenses andB SDK's for about $500/year, they give you the licenses and sell youD the standard SPL subscription at a DSPP discount that amounts to theB same $500/year.  At least, I think that's what is going on.  All ID really know is I paid the $500 (don't remember the exact amount, but@ it was pretty close to last year's amount) in August and got theA new licenses via email immediately and the Sept SPL on schedule a  month later.  H > Does anyone have the install files where you could send them to me, orC > have  information for downloading ? Total file size is approx 34K ( > blocks from the listings I have found. > 8 > Contact me at rcyoung@aliconsultants.com with the info >  > Thanks !!! >      --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:56:30 +0000 7 From: David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> ? Subject: Re: HP C v7.1 for OpenVMS 8.2 Alpha.... install files? * Message-ID: <4372EF1E.2030801@bigpond.com>  / David B Sneddon - bigpond mentioned in passing: 
 	[...snip...]  > > > Sorry 'bout that, fingers were too quick.  The kit is NOT at > that location. > 
 > Regards, > Dave    2 ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/C-CXX/openvms/c/     Regards, Dave --  B David B Sneddon (dbs) VMS Systems Programmer dbsneddon@bigpond.comB Sneddo's quick guide ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/B DBS freeware   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:42:24 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>? Subject: Re: HP C v7.1 for OpenVMS 8.2 Alpha.... install files? , Message-ID: <kZBcf.73402$An6.61907@trnddc08>   John Santos wrote: > rcyoung wrote: > J >> I am in the situation of having a license for this as a member of DSPP, >> but no media. >>F >> Since I only need the install files for the single product, I wouldF >> rather not go direct to HP and purchase the entire set of "softwareI >> product CDs" to obtain just the one set of files ( they no longer have D >> the software subscription service where you automatically get theJ >> updates delivered to you quarterly so now you have to "scrounge or buy"$ >> the update CDs to get the media). >> > E > I don't think this is true.  At least, we got the Q3 (Sept) SPL via F > DSPP.  There was some big delay on the previous set (June, Q2) whichE > I think was due to a change in the internal procedures for ordering B > kits that didn't account for DSPP.  The last two times we've gotI > emails saying we would be invoiced for the kits we had ordered followed E > immediately by a 2nd email from the DSPP folks telling us to ignore F > the 1st email.  We haven't actually been charged anything apart from# > the annual DSPP subscription fee.  > C > If you aren't getting your kits, you should call the DSPP people. & > There's an 800 number 1-800-249-3294 > B > There was some very confusing stuff on the web site, but I think@ > the bottom line is now instead of selling you the licenses andD > SDK's for about $500/year, they give you the licenses and sell youF > the standard SPL subscription at a DSPP discount that amounts to theD > same $500/year.  At least, I think that's what is going on.  All IF > really know is I paid the $500 (don't remember the exact amount, butB > it was pretty close to last year's amount) in August and got theC > new licenses via email immediately and the Sept SPL on schedule a  > month later.  C Or I could be completely misremembering what happened and we are in A fact getting the kits because we have a regular support contract.   @ Hmmm.  Anyway, call the 800 number and I'm sure they'll give you the straight scoop.      > I >> Does anyone have the install files where you could send them to me, or D >> have  information for downloading ? Total file size is approx 34K) >> blocks from the listings I have found.  >>9 >> Contact me at rcyoung@aliconsultants.com with the info  >>
 >> Thanks !!!  >> >  >      --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Nov 2005 11:17:15 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)? Subject: Re: HP C v7.1 for OpenVMS 8.2 Alpha.... install files? , Message-ID: <43732c3b$1@news.langstoeger.at>  r In article <1131601830.068007.215460@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com> writes:H >I am in the situation of having a license for this as a member of DSPP, >but no media.  C You're a lucky guy that you wanted C (or C++). If you had requested > FORTRAN, BASIC or PASCAL you would have been short of luck ;-)  
 DECC V7.1-015 F ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/C-CXX/openvms/c/cc071-ssb.dcx_axpexe   CXX V7.1-015H ftp//ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/C-CXX/openvms/cxx/cxx071-ssb.dcx_axpexe   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:23:08 +0000 7 From: martinv2 <martinv2.1ya9x0@nomx.sysadminforum.com>  Subject: Re: NetBeans 4 Message-ID: <martinv2.1ya9x0@nomx.sysadminforum.com>   Issinoho@Gmail.Com Wrote: 4 > OpenVMS Alpha 7.3-1 with all the relevant patches.  0 I'm on 7.3-2, fully patched, and SDK 1.4.2-2p2.   3 > Anyone have any ideas why NetBeans won't start...  >  > $ netbeans > ...  > Unrecognized option: -cp9 > /sys$common/netbeans36/lib/ext/boot.jar:/kylie$dkb100/s  > ys0/syscommon/java$142/lib/dt.jar:/kylie$dkb100/sys0/syscommon/java$142/lib/htmlconverter.jar:/kylie$dkb100/sys0/syscommon/java$142/lib/htmlconverter_g.jar:/kylie$dkb100/sys0/syscommon/java$142/lib/tools.jar:, > Could not create the Java virtual machine.  ; Saw the same thing. Netbeans started to work when I changed  RUNIDEOPENVMS.COM from  + $ write/symbol cmd_file "-cp ", 'nb$symsym'    to   $ write cmd_file "-cp"# $ write/symbol cmd_file 'nb$symsym'    HTH, Martin     --   martinv2" posted via http://sysdminforum.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:01:51 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> " Subject: Porting to Alpha then I641 Message-ID: <dkvctt$4s2$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi,   K I was just reading about the TDMS port in one of the VMS Technical Journals , and thought the following was worth quoting.   Regards Richard Maher    4. 64-Bit Integer Math  L The VAX TDMS source code was written almost entirely in Bliss-32, a languageH dialect that has no direct support for multiply and divide operations onJ 64-bit integers. OpenVMS date conversions make use of 64-bit integers. VAXD TDMS performs divide and multiply operations on these by calling theH undocumented COB$DIVQ_R8 and COB$MULQ_R8 COBOL language support run-time* library routines with special JSB linkage.  D These routines are not available for the use of native OpenVMS AlphaH applications. The initial attempt during April 2001 to replace them withK in-line Bliss-32 code did not work properly. Please refer to section 2.2.10 ) of the release notes for further details.   D One day in January 2002, the DIVQ and MULQ replacement routines wereJ implemented in C for Alpha, but unfortunately with coding errors that wentC undiscovered for about a year, even during intensive field testing.   J One day in January 2003, in response to a problem report from a very alertL HP employee and OpenVMS Ambassador (now an alumnus) in Ireland, these codingJ errors were finally corrected, along with two other software problems thatK had interfered with some of the date conversions. Please see section 2.2.14 ) of the release notes for further details.   D Porting to I64 did not require any further changes to these routines   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:14:27 +0200 7 From: "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_header@hp.com> 6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement* Message-ID: <43730f76@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message& news:4372E694.35CFCF4D@teksavvy.com... > Guy Peleg wrote:8 > > 1. Starting with V8.3 BACKUP will support encryptingD > > 3. BACKUP has been enhanced to support Dynamic Volume  Expansion > H > Will backup savesets created on Alpha 8.3 be readable on the unupdatedB > VAX BACKUP now stuck at 7.3 ? (assuming no compression is used). > G > When distributing products/data, will folks have to use VAX-BACKUP to E > ensure that the save sets can be read by both VAX and Alpha nodes ?   E AES encryption support is currently only available on V8.3. A saveset A encrypted using AES can only be decrypted on V8.3. If you encrypt ? using one of the DES algorithms you can decrypt on any version.   ; As for Dynamic Volume Expansion - saveset created using the ; modified code could be read by prior versions including VAX 6 (it was coded with maintaining compatibility in mind )   Guy    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:22:56 +0100 (CET) : From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancementJ Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0511101209380.11549-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  % On 7 Nov 2005, Larry Kilgallen wrote:   f >+In article <436f2ad7@usenet01.boi.hp.com>, "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_header@hp.com> writes: >+ >+> Tape shadowing:  >+> ---------------------- >+> 7 >+> The ability to write two (or more) copies of a tape  >+> saveset concurrently.  >+> >+This would be highly useful, although the same goal might be5 >+achieved for many sites by a supported BACKUP/COPY.   *  Do you mean *parallel* backup (or COPY) ?  Then I must disagree.  7  Making two sequential backups or copy of backup means:  - more operator(s) time : - more devices (tapedrives, places on disk) required to be   available $ ..and possibly both of above. True ?    Regards - Gotfryd   --  E ===================================================================== F $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=ME E =====================================================================    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Nov 2005 08:50:34 -0800% From: "Antoniov" <antoniov@shs-av.it> 6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancementC Message-ID: <1131641434.133849.141990@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    Guy," here there are some other feedbackK http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=972519    HTH  Antonio  http://it.openvms.org    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Nov 2005 10:20:19 -0800' From: "Schnootling" <chuckm@dis.wa.gov> + Subject: Re: Setting Up OS On My Alpha-4100 B Message-ID: <1131646819.127536.12630@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   Hello Everyone,   > Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it. I'm planning onF downloading and creating CDs from the sources which y'all have pointed out.  G If you have a moment, I have 3 followup questions, the first 2 of which E (I think) must be resolved before I can do much more. I looked around ? but couldn't see anything that explicitly addressed the issues: C 1) The first time I booted the Alpha, I ended up at the SRM prompt. D Since that initial boot, I've ended up at the AlphaBios screen (e.g.D press "ESC to exit"). However, when I press ESC I end up (as I wouldD expect) with a message saying "No OS found". How do I get to the SRM prompt again ?G 2) I have two disk shelves. However, in the AlphaBios option "Hard disk B setup", it says "No online hard drives were found connected to theG computer". Now, both shelves are powered up before I boot the Alpha and F both are connected to the Alpha. (If I understand the AlphaBios systemF status messages correctly, the DEC drives are accessed through a MylexG DAC960 driver. The AlphaBios system status shows 'Disk 0 SWXCR, SCSI #8 C offline'.)  Would switching the cables between the two shelves be a  reasonable next step ?E 3) On one of the disk shelves, there is a tape drive. At system boot, C the "tape drive in use" light comes on. After the system has calmed G down, I press "tape unload" and the "operate handle" light becomes lit. C I lift the handle. What to do next ? I think there is a tape in the G drive, but I don't want to force/break anything by pulling. (I'm pretty ? familiar with IBM tape drive manual operation, but not DEC tape  operation.)    Chuck-with-the-Alpha-Questions   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:49:21 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: TCPIP startup( Message-ID: <opsz1acjd6zgicya@hyrrokkin>  . On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:50:23 -0500, JF Mezei  % <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:    > Tom Linden wrote: 4 >> so I went into TCPIP$CONFIG and started manually. >>! >> Any ideas on what to look for?  >  > C > A very tiny screw lost in dust bunnies under your system cabinet.  >  >  > If I remember correctly,J > TCPIP Services starting at 5.3 automatically starts enabled services andJ > restarts them if they fail and a new call comes in.  But after a certainE > number of failures, the service is disabled. And a disabled service " > remains disabled across reboots.  & No, its status was enabled but stopped   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:47:58 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) - Subject: Re: What FC card for VMS on Itanium? L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1011050548130001@user-uinj4dp.dialup.mindspring.com>  F In article <GPTNxwhvqFEk@malvm9.mala.bc.ca>, nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) wrote:  N >In article <rdeininger-0911050611160001@user-uinj49g.dialup.mindspring.com>, ; >   rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) writes:  >>  M >> VMS V8.0 had temporary support for one of the Emulex Fibre Channel cards.  H >> IIRC it was the LP9802.  This was a stopgap card, since the Qlogic FCG >> support wasn't ready yet.  I don't remember if V8.1 continued LP9802 L >> support or not.  V8.2 and later (on Itanium) definitely DON'T support any >> Emulex FC cards.  > I >   FWIW I'm running E8.2 ( the beta version of 8.2 that shipped with the I >cheap RX2600s HP was selling last year). There's at least latent support F >for the LP8000 in that version as that's what I'm using in the RX2600G >and can definitely see the disks, write files to them, etc - but can't  >boot them.   J The LP9802 device driver probably works by accident for the LP8000.  ThereG are several supported Emulex cards on Alpha; the LP8000 might be one of I them.  In any case, the Emulex driver is still being built and kitted for 9 Itanium.  It's just not being tested on Itanium any more.    ...    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.628 ************************