1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 16 Nov 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 640       Contents:! Re: A question about autocomplete  DECnet Configurator  Re: Determine cause of bugcheck ' Re: Making iso file from VMS install CD ' Re: Making iso file from VMS install CD ' Re: Making iso file from VMS install CD ' Re: Making iso file from VMS install CD ' Re: Making iso file from VMS install CD  Re: Motif sniffing: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium> Re: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium> Re: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium> RFC1323 and large file copies over lines with moderate latency Re: Trolling for business?= Re: Video card Digital PCI ZLXp-L1 compatibility with OpenVMS  VMS memory management  Re: VMS memory management  Re: VMS memory management  Watchdog  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 12 Nov 2005 14:31:18 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)* Subject: Re: A question about autocomplete, Message-ID: <4375fcb6$1@news.langstoeger.at>  Z In article <dl4n4r$cgj$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> writes:I >I've always felt that one of the biggest failings with DCL was the lack  I >of a Unix-style autocompletion of filepaths when TAB is hit. This would  A >be a fantastic addition, however if I remember rightly an older  H >discussion around this offered some fundamental reasons why this would  >never work under DCL.  H There is/was a freeware which did/does it. I saw it in the V5 timeframe. Maybe it is/was VAX only...   I Better check VMS freeware to be sure (V4, V3, or before, if it is online)   ) 	http://www.openvms.digital.com/freeware/   7 Don't know the current status (never used it). Ask GuyP    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:27:12 -0500 % From: BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net>  Subject: DECnet Configurator* Message-ID: <437B6BF0.1060506@comcast.net>   Folks,  H Here is Paul Beaudoin's reply to AEF (?) regarding DECnet Configurator. .   Posted with permission from the author.  HTH <snip>  . I can't post to the public forum from here ...  J I used the following command to start the configurator reliably some years ago:  6 (Phase IV - I don't know if this exists under Phase V)  ' MC NCP SET MOD CONF CIRC SVA-0 SURV ENA   1 ** Replace SVA-0 with your Ethernet controller.**     A I used this to gather a list of addresses appearing on the local  1 Ethernet and I believe it listens for MOP SYSIDs.   G It started a process called NICONFIG.EXE on the system - check and see   if such an executable exists.   F I seem to remember this is an Ethernet only command - the command you % are using starts it on all interfaces A and as a first guess, this is the problem.  Try using a specific   Ethernet interface  E Failing all that - look in accounting and see why the process exited   (assuming it even started)  F If that all fails - I may have another solution for you, depending on - what it is you are trying to do. Let mo know.   	 Good luck    Paul   <snip>   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2005 06:31:22 -0800& From: "Thorsten Jens" <thojens@gmx.de>( Subject: Re: Determine cause of bugcheckB Message-ID: <1132151482.326811.77000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Thorsten Jens wrote: > G > Well, Glueck im Unglueck :-/ Now we at leats know what's going on. We 9 > still have hardware support,  I'll call them on Monday.   C Just a quick info: A tech replaced the CPU, and the server has been  runing OK since then.    Thanks for the help, Thorsten   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2005 12:29:33 +0100C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) 0 Subject: Re: Making iso file from VMS install CD2 Message-ID: <437b181d$1@merkur.rz.uni-konstanz.de>  B In article <1132090334.544600.39400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,. "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com> writes:F >What is the best way to create an iso image file of a Vax VMS install >CD? > H >I tried using a Redhat Linux that was here, but it only has a DVD driveG >and the "dd if=/cdrom  of=cdrom.iso " approach makes a 4Gb file from a 6 >600Mb Vax CDROM! A bit on the large side I am afraid. > * >I want to try out the SIMH Vax simulator. >  >   ? A VAX CD has nothing to do with an iso image. You can copy your @ CD on a PC (image copy) or on your VAX using cdrecord (freeware) or DVDwrite (commercial).    eberhard   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:01:51 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>0 Subject: Re: Making iso file from VMS install CD< Message-ID: <PcFef.12865$6A4.6290@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   rcyoung wrote:  > You will not believe this one. > < > I tried several PC type CDROM extraction/ripping utilitiesG > (freeware/shareware) , and none would give me an image of the install F > CDROM that the SIMH simulator would accept. Most were heavily geared  H Well I have done it with Nero. If you tried Nero and it didn't work can  you say what you did?   D > towards DVDs, music CDs, etc with only a little service being paidF > towards the "strange" (from their perspective) VMS file type format. > I > Then I tried the Mac OS/X "disk utility" and BINGO. The resulting image F > was readable and I installed Vax VMS on my Mac OS/X running the SIMH > simulator. > F > True, I only had a CD for VMS 6.2 in house (all other Vax media wereG > TK50). But I have ordered Vax OS 7.3 on CDROM and it should get in by  > the end of the week.   >  > Licenses I already have .  >    --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2005 04:15:40 -0800, From: "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com>0 Subject: Re: Making iso file from VMS install CDB Message-ID: <1132143340.037497.81740@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  F Didn't try Nero (it was not available at the time)., but since several; people have recommended it I am going to go looking for it.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:28:37 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>0 Subject: Re: Making iso file from VMS install CD< Message-ID: <pmHef.12909$6A4.8653@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote:    >>[Making image of CD-ROM] >  > @ > Under VMS it's very easy to turn a real physical CD-ROM into a > block-by-block image:   G Yes but If your only VMS system is simh under Windows then this option  G is not available as simh won't allow you to attach a VMS device to the  D raw CD-ROM. Only an image file. The linux version of simh allows it.  H > $MOU/FOR DKA300: (or whatever the drive name for the CD-ROM is on your > machine).  >  > $COPY/LOG DKA300: CDIMAGE.DSK  > G > You can then FTP the image around (binary mode!) to wherever you need  > it.  >  > Tim. >    --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2005 06:17:43 -0800 From: shoppa@trailing-edge.com0 Subject: Re: Making iso file from VMS install CDC Message-ID: <1132150663.069346.142290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    > [Making image of CD-ROM]  > Under VMS it's very easy to turn a real physical CD-ROM into a block-by-block image:   F $MOU/FOR DKA300: (or whatever the drive name for the CD-ROM is on your	 machine).    $COPY/LOG DKA300: CDIMAGE.DSK   E You can then FTP the image around (binary mode!) to wherever you need  it.    Tim.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2005 02:55:46 -0800! From: "meidan" <meidan@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: Motif sniffing C Message-ID: <1132138546.895738.147500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Hi, & As i can see this utility is for Unix. I ment a VMS util from digital.  Thanks anyway,   Meidan   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:37:38 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>C Subject: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium < Message-ID: <C7Kef.12951$6A4.7992@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>  H Just a couple of months ago Microsoft announced that Windows "Longhorn" H for Itanium will be only a very limited release. Yesterday it announced > that it was transitioning its entire product line to X64 only.  C Although MS still claim Windows Longhorn will be released for X86,  G X86-64 and Itanium (minimal feature release), beginning with "Longhorn  E R2" all subsequent Windows server releases will be X64 only. I could  ? find no exceptions for Itanic (or even mentions) in the quotes  ? attributed to Microsoft's Bob Kelly by various media yesterday.   I If anyone can I'd like to know. But it does look as if yesterday was the  8 day MS finally announced the end of the line for Itanic.   --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:04:07 -0700 + From: Mark Berryman <mark@theberrymans.com> G Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium % Message-ID: <437b0418$1@mvb.saic.com>    Alan Greig wrote:  > J > Just a couple of months ago Microsoft announced that Windows "Longhorn" J > for Itanium will be only a very limited release. Yesterday it announced @ > that it was transitioning its entire product line to X64 only. > E > Although MS still claim Windows Longhorn will be released for X86,  I > X86-64 and Itanium (minimal feature release), beginning with "Longhorn  G > R2" all subsequent Windows server releases will be X64 only. I could  A > find no exceptions for Itanic (or even mentions) in the quotes  A > attributed to Microsoft's Bob Kelly by various media yesterday.  > K > If anyone can I'd like to know. But it does look as if yesterday was the  : > day MS finally announced the end of the line for Itanic.  E The following was part of the keynote address announcing Microsoft's  B strategy at IT Forum 2005.  Note, particularly, the last sentence.  C "As part of its commitment to 64-bit computing, Microsoft has been  G delivering products that are optimized for 64-bit, including the newly  G released SQL Server 2005, Visual Studio 2005 and Virtual Server 2005  A R2. To help customers take full advantage of the power of 64-bit  G computing, products including Microsoft Exchange Server 12, Windows  G Compute Cluster Server 2003, Windows Server Longhorn Small Business  H Server, and Microsofts infrastructure solution for midsize businesses, F code-named Centro, will be exclusively 64-bit and optimized for x64 E hardware. In a future update release to Microsofts upcoming Windows  I Server Longhorn operating system, code-named Windows Server Longhorn  H R2, customers will see the complete transition to 64-bit-only hardware, I while still benefiting from 32-bit and 64-bit application compatibility.  I For the highest-scale application and database workloads, Windows Server  G on 64-bit Itanium-based systems will continue to be the premier choice  ! for customers for years to come."   
 Mark Berryman    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Nov 2005 18:16:45 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)G Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium + Message-ID: <3u1bcdFv48mgU1@individual.net>   < In article <C7Kef.12951$6A4.7992@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,+ 	Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net> writes:  > J > Just a couple of months ago Microsoft announced that Windows "Longhorn" J > for Itanium will be only a very limited release. Yesterday it announced @ > that it was transitioning its entire product line to X64 only. > E > Although MS still claim Windows Longhorn will be released for X86,  I > X86-64 and Itanium (minimal feature release), beginning with "Longhorn  G > R2" all subsequent Windows server releases will be X64 only. I could  A > find no exceptions for Itanic (or even mentions) in the quotes  A > attributed to Microsoft's Bob Kelly by various media yesterday.  > K > If anyone can I'd like to know. But it does look as if yesterday was the  : > day MS finally announced the end of the line for Itanic. >   B So, what does that leave to run on Itanium?  HP-UX, VMS and Linux?B Is there really enough business from these three to keep that chip going?   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:39:32 -0500 " From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com>G Subject: RFC1323 and large file copies over lines with moderate latency / Message-ID: <11nmo67dd2g30f@corp.supernews.com>   L We have a Ds-3 between East and West Coast that runs 42Mbits but when using J TCP/IP limits any one session to about 6Mbits due to the 50ms latency and M TCP Window size etc.... I was looking for a utility that would do stream the  F file copy into multiple streams, do the file copy via UDP, or exploit I RFC1323 which might solve the problem in a point<>point line .... anyone  G else poking around this?   A utility that splits the copy into say six  , streams would push the line at 36Mbits ....    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2005 01:48:01 -0800* From: "S7Solutions" <manju.m.s7@gmail.com># Subject: Re: Trolling for business? C Message-ID: <1132134481.866013.133380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   E Actually porting to IA64 is not that tough but only thing you need to G make sure is read the complere FAQ from HP website as there are so many B things changed which are minor to look but has deep effects on the< final product. We @ S7 [s7solutions.com] ported many complexB applications including the operating systems level and one need toA watch out for such things. We ported applications from Linux, HP, " Solaris & Windows onto HP IA64 OS.   Regards  Manju   0 *** CUSTOMER comes FIRST, come what may ********   Manjunath M  S7 Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd. + #83 Railway Parallel Road, Kumara Park West  Bangalore - 560020, India  Telephone: +91-80-51526777 Fax:            +91-80-2334135   2936 173rd CT NE Redmond, WA 98052, USA Telephone: (425) 867 1457  Fax: (425) 883 2597  Toll Free: 1-888-224-6174   ' Yahoo messenger ID: s7softwaresolutions ' MSN messenger ID: manjum_s7@hotmail.com  Skype ID: s7softwaresolutions    http://www.s7solutions.com  / "Redefining cross-platform porting & migration"   0 ************************************************   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2005 02:44:01 -0800( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>F Subject: Re: Video card Digital PCI ZLXp-L1 compatibility with OpenVMSC Message-ID: <1132137841.232655.272050@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   E The command SHOW LICENSE OPEN3D/FULL retrieves everything fine, but I / wanted to quote a few lines of what it yielded:  - Release Date: (none) - Termination Date: (none)* - Availability: H (Alpha Layered Products) - Acitivity: 0 - MOD_UNITS  - ALPHA   C DWMOTIF V1.2-4 is installed KIT TYPE: FULL LP; STATE : Available -> / retrieved by the command Product Show Product *   6 Everything was installed during the installation time.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2005 04:11:44 -0800 From: tuza_mitra@yahoo.com Subject: VMS memory managementB Message-ID: <1132143104.113248.68440@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Hi all,   C we are facing memory problems in our uniface application running on  VMS.1 Can you pls tell me what can be possible reasons?   ? What are the commands and tools to monitor memory usage on VMS?   , To add some more details about the problem -  D we are using Uniface 7206 with service pack 601 or 604 on VMS 7.3-2.G Once the application starts running, the user is thrown out (comes out)   > of it in 1 or 2 hours due to 'out of memory' or 'process quota exceeded' ...    Thanks for quick reponse.   	 Regards,   tm   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:54:59 -0500  From: "Jilly" <jilly@hp.com>" Subject: Re: VMS memory management, Message-ID: <437b7276$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  # I'd guess at PGFLQUOTA for the user     D "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message & news:437b4f90$1@news.langstoeger.at...E > In article <1132143104.113248.68440@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,   > tuza_mitra@yahoo.com writes:J >>we are facing memory problems in our uniface application running on VMS.3 >>Can you pls tell me what can be possible reasons?  > - > SYSGEN or UAF quota parameters most likely.  > A >>What are the commands and tools to monitor memory usage on VMS?  > L > Besides the usual recommendations (SHOW MEMORY, SHOW PROCESS/ALL/IDENT=...L > and ACCOUNTING/FULL/SINCE/IDENT=...) I would recommend AVAILMAN (or AMDS).I > You can download it (after a survey) from here (license is included in   > VMS) > ; > http://www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/products/availman/  > . >>To add some more details about the problem - >>F >>we are using Uniface 7206 with service pack 601 or 604 on VMS 7.3-2.I >>Once the application starts running, the user is thrown out (comes out)  >>K >>of it in 1 or 2 hours due to 'out of memory' or 'process quota exceeded'   >>...  >  > Sounds like a memory leak.E > Better contact the ISV to check for a patch to Uniface in addition.  >  > --   > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER ' > Network and OpenVMS system specialist  > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atI > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist     ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:25:05 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.com" Subject: Re: VMS memory managementQ Message-ID: <OFB280F385.A47C4A1C-ON852570BB.0064FE68-852570BB.00652C76@metso.com>   7 "Jilly" <jilly@hp.com> wrote on 11/16/2005 12:54:59 PM:   % > I'd guess at PGFLQUOTA for the user  >  > E > "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message ( > news:437b4f90$1@news.langstoeger.at...F > > In article <1132143104.113248.68440@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,  > > tuza_mitra@yahoo.com writes:G > >>we are facing memory problems in our uniface application running on  VMS.5 > >>Can you pls tell me what can be possible reasons?  > > / > > SYSGEN or UAF quota parameters most likely.  > > C > >>What are the commands and tools to monitor memory usage on VMS?  > > 8 > > Besides the usual recommendations (SHOW MEMORY, SHOW PROCESS/ALL/IDENT=... G > > and ACCOUNTING/FULL/SINCE/IDENT=...) I would recommend AVAILMAN (or  AMDS).J > > You can download it (after a survey) from here (license is included in > > VMS) > > = > > http://www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/products/availman/  > > 0 > >>To add some more details about the problem - > >>H > >>we are using Uniface 7206 with service pack 601 or 604 on VMS 7.3-2.K > >>Once the application starts running, the user is thrown out (comes out)  > >>B > >>of it in 1 or 2 hours due to 'out of memory' or 'process quota	 exceeded'  > >>...  > >   I Since it occurs over 1 or 2 hours, someone should point him to one of the D DCL procedures to sample/watch the pgflquota and other things to see what's being exhausted.    > > Sounds like a memory leak.G > > Better contact the ISV to check for a patch to Uniface in addition.  > >  > > -- > > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER ) > > Network and OpenVMS system specialist   > > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atJ > > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:09:39 -0000  From: nospam@nohost.no.net Subject: Watchdog 0 Message-ID: <11nmtf3qnn78h4c@corp.supernews.com>  F Excuse my ignorance, I've searched around for information on Watchdog 3 but what I find seems to be of 1995 vintage or so.    F I'm interested in the freeware version for running on both VAXs using E VMS6.2 and Alphas running 7.1 as well as the latest VMS versions. Is  A there a version around that will meet these requirements and can  0 hopefully be recompiled under C, C++ or FORTRAN.   Thanks.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.640 ************************