1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 17 Nov 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 642       Contents:( Re: Alpha AU433 <> disk tower DSB-356-KF/ Bring back alpha or port VMS to opteron now HP!  Re: C 6.4  for Vax savesets? Re: C 6.4  for Vax savesets? Re: C 6.4 for Vax savesets?  Re: C 6.4 for Vax savesets?  Re: DECnet Configurator 4 Re: difference between "normal" and DECnet DIRECTORY Downloading OpenVMS  Re: Downloading OpenVMS  Re: Gadgets and office security  Re: Gadgets and office security  Re: Gadgets and office security - Heads UP: HP financials thursday after close. 1 Re: Heads UP: HP financials thursday after close. 4 How can I tell if OPEN3D is installed in my machine?8 Re: How can I tell if OPEN3D is installed in my machine?8 Re: How can I tell if OPEN3D is installed in my machine?8 Re: How can I tell if OPEN3D is installed in my machine? Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?  Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?  Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?  Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?  Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?  Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?  Re: Microvax image to simh?  Re: Need help with C program Re: Need help with C program Re: Need help with C program Re: Need help with C program> Re: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium> Re: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium- Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancement  rx2620 DECWindows reinit hang?B SN-PBXGB-AA  POWERSTORM 3D30 GRAPHICS compatibility with DECWindowP TASK can't run SEARCH (was Re: difference between "normal" and DECnet DIRECTORY)P Re: TASK can't run SEARCH (was Re: difference between "normal" and DECnet DIRECT& Terminal driver question (silent port)* Re: Terminal driver question (silent port)* Re: Terminal driver question (silent port)* Re: Terminal driver question (silent port)= Re: Video card Digital PCI ZLXp-L1 compatibility with OpenVMS  Where can I find the Open3D kit : xx.xx.xx.Invalid mode ... is this an installation problem?> Re: xx.xx.xx.Invalid mode ... is this an installation problem?> Re: xx.xx.xx.Invalid mode ... is this an installation problem?> Re: xx.xx.xx.Invalid mode ... is this an installation problem?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:18:58 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 1 Subject: Re: Alpha AU433 <> disk tower DSB-356-KF ( Message-ID: <ops0ec5wsizgicya@hyrrokkin>  L On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:40:15 +0100, Hans M. Aus <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de>   wrote:  J > Is it possible to use a disk tower DEC DSB-356-KF on an Alpha AU433/VMS?   yes  > D > The tower has a SCSI cable with two VHDCi(?) connectors. The Alpha) > QLogic board has a UW 68 pin connector.  > . > Is there a DEC number for the correct cable?   BN38E-0B   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 08:10:01 -0800 From: bob@instantwhip.com 8 Subject: Bring back alpha or port VMS to opteron now HP!C Message-ID: <1132243801.298027.279800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   E Since HP now is jumping ship from the itanic to opteron, this must be  done, F and all the big vms shops that bought the itanic story are responsible and  must now demand this ...   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 07:33:49 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)% Subject: Re: C 6.4  for Vax savesets? , Message-ID: <437c325d$1@news.langstoeger.at>  r In article <1132179460.388289.241640@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com> writes:C >Does anyone have the Vax DEC C V 6.4 savesets sitting on the shelf E >someplace? If possible I need to get copies zipped and sent to me on G >ISO-9660 CD or  emailed (probably too large for that though). I have a C >later version, but need the earlier for compatibility with another  >system. Already have the paks.   3 You have a later version of DEC C for OpenVMS VAX ?  Which version ? Where from ?9 ConDist/ACLABS tell V6.4 is the current/newest version...    Curious    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:45:00 GMT 4 From: "Ed Vogel" <edward.vogel_stop_the_spam@hp.com>% Subject: Re: C 6.4  for Vax savesets? 4 Message-ID: <MH0ff.16698$oF6.10032@news.cpqcorp.net>  D "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message & news:437c325d$1@news.langstoeger.at... > 5 > You have a later version of DEC C for OpenVMS VAX ?  > Which version ? Where from ?; > ConDist/ACLABS tell V6.4 is the current/newest version...  > 	 > Curious   2     Yea...I'd be interested too.  As far as I know2     V6.4 is the current supported version of DEC C%     (Calling itself Compaq C) on VAX.        Ed Vogel     DEC/Compaq/HP C Engineering    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 04:30:43 -0800, From: "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com>$ Subject: Re: C 6.4 for Vax savesets?C Message-ID: <1132230643.871682.133870@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Poor wording....  G DEC C -> Compaq C -> HP C all are 6.4, but one was DEC, one Compaq, and ? one HP. All slightly different with updates, different RTL, etc    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 14:45:28 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)$ Subject: Re: C 6.4 for Vax savesets?* Message-ID: <437c9788@news.langstoeger.at>  r In article <1132230643.871682.133870@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com> writes: >Poor wording....  > H >DEC C -> Compaq C -> HP C all are 6.4, but one was DEC, one Compaq, and@ >one HP. All slightly different with updates, different RTL, etc  B Not on VMS. There is only one ANSI C compiler (of the VMS vendor).% DEC C. Maybe renamed now (of course). D But not different versions of C on VMS with the same version number.  - Do you have any more info on your statement ?    -EPLAN  H PS: And before it was VAX C (and had lower version numbers - V1-V3 IIRC) and was not ANSI C compliant  L And there is/was also a INTEL C86 cross compiler and a GNU C native compiler on/for OpenVMS VAX...  --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 08:06:21 -0800% From: "steelerx" <steelerx@gmail.com>   Subject: Re: DECnet ConfiguratorC Message-ID: <1132243581.391494.270280@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   F Instead of changing the passwords, which could 'break' something else,= you could add proxy accounts so that no password is required.    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 08:13:09 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) = Subject: Re: difference between "normal" and DECnet DIRECTORY 3 Message-ID: <55UH3D86W9UD@eisner.encompasserve.org>   w In article <dlg667$ver$2@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:  > 7 > $  dir/dat=(c,m)/siz=all NODE"USER"::DISK:[DIRECTORY]  > ( > Directory NODE"USER"::DISK:[DIRECTORY] > 
 > FILE.TYPE;1 ) >                    file access conflict  >  > Total of 1 file, 0/0 blocks.      Try this:  0    On remote node NODE create the following file      $! sys$login:attempt.com     $define sys$output sys$net ?    $directory/date=(created,modified)/size=all disk:[directory]     $logoutnow   ! not a typo      Then from the local node do:   #    $type node"user"::"task=attempt"    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 08:18:06 -0800% From: "EAmez" <trinity.9bi@gmail.com>  Subject: Downloading OpenVMSB Message-ID: <1132244286.853913.26520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Hello,  A We are trying to install a Vax Virtual Machine and we want to use 7 OpenVMS as Operating System. We are follwing this page: ( http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/vax.html  3 but links are broken and we can't download OpenVMS.   2 Anyone who knows where can we download it, please?   Thanks.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:59:18 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>  Subject: Re: Downloading OpenVMS< Message-ID: <GF2ff.17053$6A4.5552@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   EAmez wrote: > Hello, > C > We are trying to install a Vax Virtual Machine and we want to use 9 > OpenVMS as Operating System. We are follwing this page: * > http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/vax.html > 5 > but links are broken and we can't download OpenVMS.     4 > Anyone who knows where can we download it, please?  H In general you don't. Go to http://www.openvmshobbyist.com/ to find out A how to get licenses and media. The most basic free membership of  F Encompass USA (DECUS) allows you to obtain free "hobby use" licenses. G You can then order hobby media for a small fee to cover administrative  I costs. Alternatively once you have the licenses you can borrow a copy of  7 the CD or even get someone to offer you a copy via ftp.   5 There are a few emulators around but the free "simh"   http://simh.trailing-edge.com/( is perfectly usable for unsupported use.   --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 17 Nov 2005 14:26:29 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)( Subject: Re: Gadgets and office security+ Message-ID: <3u3i8lFur1vbU1@individual.net>   , In article <437BEC7A.9DCF1689@teksavvy.com>,0 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:f > http://news.com.com/Employee+gadgets+pose+security+risk+to+companies/2100-1029_3-5954642.html?tag=nl > J > It is an article on how dangerous all the gadgets people bring to officeG > can be to office security since they can connect directly into office O > PCs and bypass corporate firewalls. (MP3 players, Ipods, PDAs, smart phones).  >  > H > For secure applications, one now REALLY needs thin clients (aka: smartG > terminals) without any plugs so that employees can't mess with them.    ? I was just looking at the specs for a bunch of thin clients and > all of them had ports (USB, serial, parallel) available to the. user so I guess they aren't the answer either.  D > Perhaps the future is really in synching PDAs via central wireless@ > gateways instead of allowing them to plug into your office PC.  @ And this solves the problem how?  Any device that can comunicate< with another device can infect it.  The method by which they communicate is not important.    > C > Is this issue exagerated, or will it really devlop into a serious  > problem ?   > It already is.  Real secure environemnts don't allow people to? plug any device into their environment that they don't control. = I even know places where you can't even bring foreign devices = into the building.  If you do, they don't leave when you do!!    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:32:00 -0500 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>( Subject: Re: Gadgets and office security. Message-ID: <437C6A30.3570.1AA34DA6@localhost>  / On 17 Nov 2005 at 14:26, Bill Gunshannon wrote: A > I was just looking at the specs for a bunch of thin clients and @ > all of them had ports (USB, serial, parallel) available to the0 > user so I guess they aren't the answer either.  @ The computers in one classified environment I visited had their A "extra" ports filled with epoxy so something can't be plugged in   "accidentally".   
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com) "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option"    ------------------------------   Date: 17 Nov 2005 17:17:10 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)( Subject: Re: Gadgets and office security+ Message-ID: <3u3s8mFvjmubU1@individual.net>   . In article <437C6A30.3570.1AA34DA6@localhost>,5 	"Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> writes: 1 > On 17 Nov 2005 at 14:26, Bill Gunshannon wrote: B >> I was just looking at the specs for a bunch of thin clients andA >> all of them had ports (USB, serial, parallel) available to the 1 >> user so I guess they aren't the answer either.  > B > The computers in one classified environment I visited had their C > "extra" ports filled with epoxy so something can't be plugged in   > "accidentally".   A Not surprising, but like I said, I know one place personally that ? if you bring it in it stays in.  That memory sticks, CDR media, @ floppies and yes, even cell phones!!  I would hate to think whatA they would do if you snuck something like a wireless PDA past the 
 door.  :-)   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 02:46:25 -0500 . From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>6 Subject: Heads UP: HP financials thursday after close.- Message-ID: <437C354D.9A80580A@vaxination.ca>   B BBC has been reporting on HP expected to release good results this coming Thursday.  E BBC says that HP may not have to take accounting charges to write off K the investment in Compaq, doing so would admit buying Compaq was a mistake.   A I wonder if there is any impact with regards to VMS since VMS was G acquired with the Compaq deal. Does this mean that Hurd sees some value & in the assets purchased from Compaq ?   G Perhaps this is just some shareholder issue with regards to share price F relative to book value of HP. Are there situations where it is good toA lower the book value of the company by writing off a huge chunk ?    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:16:44 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>: Subject: Re: Heads UP: HP financials thursday after close.= Message-ID: <Mw_ef.27056$375.13009@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>    JF Mezei wrote: D > BBC has been reporting on HP expected to release good results this > coming Thursday.  ( And CNN has an article "How Hot is HP?" C http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/16/markets/hp_preview/index.htm which  D suggests that things might not be as good as some think. Also makes + clear it's all about PC sales and printers.   D IBM is trying to spoil the party even further by claiming that HP's F largest Superdome customer is dumping Itanic after only two years and  moving to Power.  : http://www.computerpartner.nl/article.php?news=int&id=1924I "IBM Corp. is due to announce a major competitive win with China's State  G Administration of Taxation for the vendor's 64-bit Power5 Unix servers  F Thursday, according to an IBM executive. Under the terms of the deal, F the tax authority has replaced all its 2-year-old Hewlett-Packard Co. 1 Superdome Itanium machines with the IBM servers."   A In May 2003, HP announced it had won a deal with the Chinese tax  @ authority for 40 Itanium-based Superdome systems as the company I announced its fiscal 2003 second-quarter earnings conference call. Carly  A Fiorina, at that time HP's chairman and chief executive officer,  B described the deal as the company's largest Superdome win to date.  I Later that year in August when addressing delegates at the HP World 2003  C conference in Atlanta, Fiorina again referred to the deal with the  A Chinese tax authority, which saw HP displace IBM mainframes. "We  G displaced a mainframe -- lots of mainframes as a matter of fact -- and  H we provided better technical performance than the mainframe, at about a G third less cost," she said, according to a transcript of the speech on   HP's Web site.  ? Although IBM claimed the timing of Thursday's announcement was  B coincidental, HP is due to release its fiscal 2005 fourth-quarter " financial results on the same day.  I "This is a watershed deal [for IBM]," Freund said. "The HP plan was that  F all their PA-RISC customers were supposed to be going to Itanium. Now E their largest customer is leaving. Other customers are asking, 'Am I  F sure this [Itanium] is a good destination?'" The Chinese win is proof G that IBM's migration efforts to encourage both HP and Sun Microsystems  H Inc. customers to move over to IBM's Power systems is working, he added.	 =========    --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 07:42:23 -0800( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>= Subject: How can I tell if OPEN3D is installed in my machine? C Message-ID: <1132242143.926727.156490@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   G I licensed the OPEN3D using the @sys$update:vmslicense but I suspicious D that only the license has be been enable but I don't have the Open3DC installed? I tried the command : PRODUCT SHOW PRODUCT OPEN3D and it F retrieved "0 items found", is that the right way to find out if OPEN3D< is installed? Does that mean that it's really not installed?   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 07:51:37 -0800% From: "steelerx" <steelerx@gmail.com> A Subject: Re: How can I tell if OPEN3D is installed in my machine? C Message-ID: <1132242697.603891.211100@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   > On VMS loading the license and installing the software are twoE differnent steps. Have you actually installed OPEN3D yet? If you have 8 then there should be a startup file on your system disk.  	 Try this:                  set def sys$startup              dir *open3d*   G If nothing is there than either the install has not been run, or it did  not compete.   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 08:28:49 -0800( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>A Subject: Re: How can I tell if OPEN3D is installed in my machine? C Message-ID: <1132244929.452654.152730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   E no files found. is the Open3D kit available on the internet, I've got  the license    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 19:30:52 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)A Subject: Re: How can I tell if OPEN3D is installed in my machine? , Message-ID: <437cda6c$1@news.langstoeger.at>  n In article <1132242143.926727.156490@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com> writes:H >I licensed the OPEN3D using the @sys$update:vmslicense but I suspiciousE >that only the license has be been enable but I don't have the Open3D D >installed? I tried the command : PRODUCT SHOW PRODUCT OPEN3D and itG >retrieved "0 items found", is that the right way to find out if OPEN3D = >is installed? Does that mean that it's really not installed?    $ PRODUCT SHOW PRODUCT  L shows you only kits which have been installed with PCSI (DCL verb: PRODUCT).  F At earlier times, there was no PCSI, but a DCL procedure VMSINSTAL.COMI PCSI replaced SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL.COM - but not totally - because of its H advantages. There are still some products (like DFG, ECP, ...) which are  still not provided as PCSI kits.  3 Kits for PCSI are named .PCSI and .PCSI$COMPRESSED. - Kits for VMSINSTAL are named .A, .B and so on   J OPEN3D is unfortunately a kit which is/were to be installed with VMSINSTAL: (and therefor there is no easy way to uninstall this kit).  I To install OPEN3D login to the local machine with a logfile (and save it)   B $ SET HOST 0/LOG=SYS$SYSDEVICE:[000000]OPEN3DB049.LOG		!or similar SYSTEM password; $ @SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL OPEN3DB049 SYS$SYSDEVICE OPTIONS LI  ...  $ LOGOUT  J Above installation assumes the (unpacked) kit is in SYS$SYSDEVICE:[000000]M That means a lot of files, named from OPEN3DB049.A up to OPEN3DB049.N, there.   	 Good luck    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Nov 2005 23:31:18 -0800& From: "Bart Zorn" <bartzorn@yahoo.com>& Subject: Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?C Message-ID: <1132212678.144480.292520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   E This seems to me not a very helpful answer. Could you elaborate a bit  why one doesn't need MAKE?  	 Bart Zorn    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 09:34:11 +0100. From: huber@NOBODY-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)& Subject: Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?+ Message-ID: <pv66nZIoyHo7@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   M In article <dlga0u$sbt$1@news-srv1.vanderbilt.edu>, <wob96@yahoo.com> writes: I > I'm looking a MAKE utility for openVMS Alpha 7.1 system, could someone  2 > please tell me where I can get it? Thanks a lot!  5 It is in the GNV distribution at the HP OpenVMS site, % though probably not back to VMS 7.1 . J A version for older VMS systems (make 3.60) is also at Hunters FILESERV at  H http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv_search.exe?package=make    --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 05:16:50 -0800 From: goathunter@goatley.com& Subject: Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?C Message-ID: <1132233410.393580.276780@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Joseph Huber wrote:    > 7 > It is in the GNV distribution at the HP OpenVMS site, ' > though probably not back to VMS 7.1 . L > A version for older VMS systems (make 3.60) is also at Hunters FILESERV at > J > http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv_search.exe?package=make > * Thanks, Joseph.  The full URL is actually:   http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv_search.exe?package=make&description=&author=&system=Either&language=All&RD=&RM=&RY=  F Currently, you'll get an accvio if some of the parameters are missing. I'll try to modify( the search program to be more forgiving.   Hunter   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 14:27:05 +0100. From: huber@NOBODY-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)& Subject: Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?+ Message-ID: <I4hvVVn1$Zp9@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   b In article <1132233410.393580.276780@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, goathunter@goatley.com writes:, > Thanks, Joseph.  The full URL is actually: >  > http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv_search.exe?package=make&description=&author=&system=Either&language=All&RD=&RM=&RY= > H > Currently, you'll get an accvio if some of the parameters are missing. > I'll try to modify* > the search program to be more forgiving.  K Thanks for the hint, I was pasting the URL in my news editor and forgot the  second half.    --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 09:29:37 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) & Subject: Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?3 Message-ID: <Tur6mkjgopZr@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <1132212678.144480.292520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Bart Zorn" <bartzorn@yahoo.com> writes:G > This seems to me not a very helpful answer. Could you elaborate a bit  > why one doesn't need MAKE?  H Whereas yours seems to me not a very helpful answer, as you do not quoteG any context regarding "this".  Never assume everybody else's newsreader  is the same as yours.    ------------------------------   Date: 17 Nov 2005 15:37:01 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)& Subject: Re: MAKE utility for openVMS?+ Message-ID: <3u3mctFvamc8U1@individual.net>   3 In article <Tur6mkjgopZr@eisner.encompasserve.org>, 0 	Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:n > In article <1132212678.144480.292520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Bart Zorn" <bartzorn@yahoo.com> writes:H >> This seems to me not a very helpful answer. Could you elaborate a bit >> why one doesn't need MAKE?  > J > Whereas yours seems to me not a very helpful answer, as you do not quoteI > any context regarding "this".  Never assume everybody else's newsreader  > is the same as yours.   ( Whoa....  Cut him a little slack, Larry.  G He asked for a version of MAKE fro VMS and somebody reply was a simple, B "You don't need it."  With no alternatives or explanation offered.  E As he said, not very helpful.  And probably not very accurate either. D I realize VMS has alternatives, but someone who is not familiar withD VMS won't know this.  And, if you are already familiar with MAKE andE don't know any of the VMS equivalent systems it is very likely easier F to install a version of MAKE than to learn a new system, especially ifC you are working on what is probably a one up project.  Or, possibly A the project already has a Makefile which would make MAKE the real  correct answer tot he question.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:24:48 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>$ Subject: Re: Microvax image to simh?= Message-ID: <Aw%ef.45940$Es4.27911@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   # Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:   7 > On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:34:05 -0800, Alan Greig wrote:  > J >>Backup/image the boot disk of your MVII to a backup saveset. Install VMSI >>and Boot simh using the documented procedures (or just boot stand alone K >>backup) and restore the image to another virtual disk. Boot simh from the  >>oher disk  > 7 > I don't have a VMS image (w/compiler) to put on simh.   I Btw Chuck, if you need any help with this let me know. The documentation  G on getting simh with vms and networking up and running is a bit sparse  E but it is relatively straight forward once you've done it once. It's   also very stable.   G You can get basic Encompass (DECUS) membership for free which entitles  E you to a license. Technically if you then sell any software you need  H more than the hobby licenses but any original licenses you have for the & MVII can probably be transferred over.   --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 01:45:20 -0800 From: uli_bellgardt@hotmail.com % Subject: Re: Need help with C program C Message-ID: <1132220720.621116.273760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei schrieb:  [...]  >  > char date_char[20];  > unsigned int date_bin[2] ;
 > int status;  > & > $DESCRIPTOR(date_char_desc,"dummy"); > - > strcpy("5-MAR-2000 05:35:30.25",date_char);  [..]   Only two small comments:  F 1. The size [20] of date_char is too small. Better have it 24 to carry the entire date/time string.E 2. The order of the arguments to strcpy should be changed if the date . string should be copied to variable date_char:  4        strcpy (date_char, "5-MAR-2000 05:35:30.25");!        /* strcpy (dest, src) ! */   F Your solution tries to overwrite the (write-protected) string constant. with the garbage of an uninitialized variable.  
 Kind regards,  -Uli   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 08:51:26 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org% Subject: Re: Need help with C program 3 Message-ID: <WpjZFU5YtOee@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <437BBACA.39ACAB0D@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: [...]  > char date_char[20];  > unsigned int date_bin[2] ;
 > int status;  > & > $DESCRIPTOR(date_char_desc,"dummy"); > - > strcpy("5-MAR-2000 05:35:30.25",date_char);   F strcpy -- just say no.  Especially when you're having trouble counting characters.    strncpy  memcpy LIB$SCOPY_R_DX   All much nicer.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:08:47 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> % Subject: Re: Need help with C program ( Message-ID: <ops0ecoxqrzgicya@hyrrokkin>  C On 16 Nov 2005 11:00:15 -0800, RJDurkee <RJDurkee@yahoo.com> wrote:   H > I am doing a project on a old 6.2 VMS system and I need help writing aD > C program that will convert a date formatted like this "5-MAR-2000H > 05:35:30.25" into the number of nanoseconds since the beginning of VMS; > time - Nov. 17, 1858, which would be formatted like this:  > 44589513302500000.  + So today is the 147th anniversary of VMS:-)    ------------------------------   Date: 17 Nov 2005 18:45:08 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)% Subject: Re: Need help with C program + Message-ID: <3u41dkFv1hhcU1@individual.net>   ( In article <ops0ecoxqrzgicya@hyrrokkin>,& 	"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:E > On 16 Nov 2005 11:00:15 -0800, RJDurkee <RJDurkee@yahoo.com> wrote:  > I >> I am doing a project on a old 6.2 VMS system and I need help writing a E >> C program that will convert a date formatted like this "5-MAR-2000 I >> 05:35:30.25" into the number of nanoseconds since the beginning of VMS < >> time - Nov. 17, 1858, which would be formatted like this: >> 44589513302500000.  > - > So today is the 147th anniversary of VMS:-)   @ Well, that explains what Ben Franklin needed the lightening for.> It was powering the VAX he had in the basement of IndependanceA Hall.  Was the Declaration of Independance written with DECWrite?    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:32:36 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> G Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium ( Message-ID: <ops0ea0mgczgicya@hyrrokkin>  F On 16 Nov 2005 19:52:16 GMT, Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote:  E > What would there be to hear?  If it is true that MS is not going to F > support Itanium there is no reason for Intel to continue developmentC > or even the manufacture of it.  Time to cut their losses and hope C > the hit on their stock isn't too bad when the Casino Analysts get A > done with them.  What can HP offer?  Donate the several billion 9 > dollars they Intel has already flushed on this project?   = How do you know that HP is not subsidizing Intel to continue?    ------------------------------   Date: 17 Nov 2005 17:55:32 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)G Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft appear to announce end of Windows on Itanium + Message-ID: <3u3ugkFuakiuU1@individual.net>   ( In article <ops0ea0mgczgicya@hyrrokkin>,& 	"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:H > On 16 Nov 2005 19:52:16 GMT, Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote: > F >> What would there be to hear?  If it is true that MS is not going toG >> support Itanium there is no reason for Intel to continue development D >> or even the manufacture of it.  Time to cut their losses and hopeD >> the hit on their stock isn't too bad when the Casino Analysts getB >> done with them.  What can HP offer?  Donate the several billion: >> dollars they Intel has already flushed on this project? > ? > How do you know that HP is not subsidizing Intel to continue?   D Probably because it wold be bad business for both parties. (OK, that. doesn't seem to stop many corporations today.)  G Intel is rapidly becoming a laughing stock and a looser playing catchup D to that AMD thing.  HP can't possibly be making enough profit off of@ the stuff that currently runs on Itanium to be able to afford toC bankroll a money-pit like Itanium.  The really bad part of all this D is who the real loosers are going to be.  Looked in a mirror lately?   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 05:26:26 -0800% From: "steelerx" <steelerx@gmail.com> 6 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - BACKUP enhancementC Message-ID: <1132233986.742386.311360@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   F You are correct, I could, but I am not here at 3:00am when the backups	 are done.    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 09:49:29 -0800! From: kenneth.randell@verizon.net ' Subject: rx2620 DECWindows reinit hang? A Message-ID: <1132249769.072374.8730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   G I have an rx2620 which suddenly started showing something strange -- it 6 was hanging during a 'normal' boot sequence.  If I setA DECW$IGNORE_DECWINDOWS, the system boots as expected.  VMS 8.2-1.   ? Slightly modifying DECW$DEVICE.COM to not define sys$output and 6 sys$error to NLA0, I get stuck at the following place:   $! define sys$output nla0: $! define sys$error  nla0: $ 
 $init_device:  $  $ init_retry = 10 < $ devnam = f$element(devnum, ",", decw$device_configuration)) $ if devnam .eqs. "," then goto done_init ) $ if devnam .eqs. ""  then goto done_init E $ if (f$getdvi(devnam,"STS") .AND. 16) .eq. 0 then decw$reinit reinit  GHA0 $  $next_init_device: $  $ devnum = devnum + 1  $ goto init_device
 $init_device:  $  $ init_retry = 10 < $ devnam = f$element(devnum, ",", decw$device_configuration)) $ if devnam .eqs. "," then goto done_init ) $ if devnam .eqs. ""  then goto done_init E $ if (f$getdvi(devnam,"STS") .AND. 16) .eq. 0 then decw$reinit reinit  GHB0  G So it looks like it's wedged on GHB0, which is the management processor C port.  It's so wedged, I can't use the CNTRL/P to get a crash dump.   B These boxes have a RADEON 7500 installed as well as the ManagementA Processor card, which has a  RADEON 7000.  A similarly configured  rx2620 is working normally.   @ Completely removing power has had no effect.  The MP seems to be@ otherwise functioning normally, LAN/WEB port connections workingF normally, device is configured (it shows up in SDA), no device errors, etc.  : Am I missing something, or is it time to call for Service?   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 08:27:11 -0800( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>K Subject: SN-PBXGB-AA  POWERSTORM 3D30 GRAPHICS compatibility with DECWindow B Message-ID: <1132244831.905502.14960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  G Is the PowerStorm 3D30 Graphics compatible with OpenVMS 7.1 without the  Open3D kit?    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 08:08:52 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>Y Subject: TASK can't run SEARCH (was Re: difference between "normal" and DECnet DIRECTORY) C Message-ID: <1132243732.251727.293280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Bob Koehler wrote:y > In article <dlg667$ver$2@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:  > > 9 > > $  dir/dat=(c,m)/siz=all NODE"USER"::DISK:[DIRECTORY]  > > * > > Directory NODE"USER"::DISK:[DIRECTORY] > >  > > FILE.TYPE;1 + > >                    file access conflict  > >   > > Total of 1 file, 0/0 blocks. >  >    Try this: > 2 >    On remote node NODE create the following file >  >    $! sys$login:attempt.com  >    $define sys$output sys$net A >    $directory/date=(created,modified)/size=all disk:[directory]  >    $logoutnow   ! not a typo > ! >    Then from the local node do:  > % >    $type node"user"::"task=attempt"     D Speaking of TASKing, why doesn't SEARCH work in such a command file:    
 On node B:  ; $    IF (F$MODE().EQS."INTERACTIVE") THEN GOTO _INTERACTIVE  $    DEFINE SYS$PRINT NOSUCHQUE  $    DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT SYS$NET $_INTERACTIVE:+ $    SEARCH SYS$MANAGER:SYLOGIN.COM ELEMENT 	 $    EXIT   	 $ @SEARCH @ $    ACCPORNAM0=  F$ELEMENT(0,",",F$GETDVI("TT","TT_ACCPORNAM"))     One node A:   ' $ TYPE NODE_X"BLAH BLOW"::"TASK=SEARCH" ' %SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name     E Here it is with SET VERIFY added to the top of the command procedure:   ' $ TYPE NODE_X"BLAH BLOW"::"TASK=SEARCH"  $_INTERACTIVE:+ $    SEARCH SYS$MANAGER:SYLOGIN.COM ELEMENT ' %SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name     D Why don't I just SEARCH from the local node? Because I am in NYC andG the remote node is in Hong Kong and it takes longer. Anyway, I'd REALLY ! like to know why it doesn't work.    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 08:12:37 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>Y Subject: Re: TASK can't run SEARCH (was Re: difference between "normal" and DECnet DIRECT B Message-ID: <1132243957.520757.96550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  
 AEF wrote: > Bob Koehler wrote:{ > > In article <dlg667$ver$2@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:  > > > ; > > > $  dir/dat=(c,m)/siz=all NODE"USER"::DISK:[DIRECTORY]  > > > , > > > Directory NODE"USER"::DISK:[DIRECTORY] > > >  > > > FILE.TYPE;1 - > > >                    file access conflict  > > > " > > > Total of 1 file, 0/0 blocks. > >  > >    Try this: > > 4 > >    On remote node NODE create the following file > >  > >    $! sys$login:attempt.com ! > >    $define sys$output sys$net C > >    $directory/date=(created,modified)/size=all disk:[directory]   > >    $logoutnow   ! not a typo > > # > >    Then from the local node do:  > > ' > >    $type node"user"::"task=attempt"  >  > F > Speaking of TASKing, why doesn't SEARCH work in such a command file: >  >  > On node B: > = > $    IF (F$MODE().EQS."INTERACTIVE") THEN GOTO _INTERACTIVE ! > $    DEFINE SYS$PRINT NOSUCHQUE   > $    DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT SYS$NET > $_INTERACTIVE:- > $    SEARCH SYS$MANAGER:SYLOGIN.COM ELEMENT  > $    EXIT  >  > $ @SEARCH B > $    ACCPORNAM0=  F$ELEMENT(0,",",F$GETDVI("TT","TT_ACCPORNAM")) >  > 
 > One node A:  > ) > $ TYPE NODE_X"BLAH BLOW"::"TASK=SEARCH" ) > %SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name  >  > G > Here it is with SET VERIFY added to the top of the command procedure:  > ) > $ TYPE NODE_X"BLAH BLOW"::"TASK=SEARCH"  > $_INTERACTIVE:- > $    SEARCH SYS$MANAGER:SYLOGIN.COM ELEMENT ) > %SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM, invalid device name  >  > F > Why don't I just SEARCH from the local node? Because I am in NYC andI > the remote node is in Hong Kong and it takes longer. Anyway, I'd REALLY # > like to know why it doesn't work.   + Sorry, node B and node X are the same node.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:37:21 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> / Subject: Terminal driver question (silent port) , Message-ID: <437C6B5F.71692DC1@teksavvy.com>  F In the past few weeks, I have had problem with a DSL modem rebooting a few times a day.    C The unit has a serial port plugged into a TX port on mty all mighty D microvax II. This way, I can SET HOST/DTE to it and issue management
 commands.    The terminal is configured as: $ show term txa3:/perm> Terminal: _TXA3:      Device_Type: Unknown       Owner: _RTA2:>                                               Username: SYSTEM  B    Input:    9600     LFfill:  0      Width: 250      Parity: None0    Output:   9600     CRfill:  0      Page:   24   Terminal Characteristics: E    Passall            No Echo            Type_ahead         No Escape B    Hostsync           TTsync             Lowercase          No TabG    Wrap               Scope              No Remote          No Eightbit C    No Broadcast       No Readsync        No Form            Fulldup E    No Modem           No Local_echo      No Autobaud        No Hangup E    No Brdcstmbx       DMA                No Altypeahd       Set_speed G    No Commsync        No Line Editing    Overstrike editing No Fallback F    No Dialup          Secure server      No Disconnect      No PasthruK    No Syspassword     No SIXEL Graphics  No Soft Characters No Printer Port I    Numeric Keypad     No ANSI_CRT        No Regis           No Block_mode G    No Advanced_video  No Edit_mode       No DEC_CRT         No DEC_CRT2 I    No DEC_CRT3        No DEC_CRT4        No DEC_CRT5        No Ansi_Color     VMS Style Input  B (at the time I issued the command, I was connected to it via a DTEK session, but the /PERM show the settings that would be normally in effect.)   E Questions: do the above settings ensure that no matter what the modem 3 sends to the TX port, VMS won't send anything back?   H Is it possible that the data sent by the modem would fill the buffer andD VMS would then issue an XOFF, and then, the modem would fill its own buffers and barf/reboot ?   H What are the settings to make sure a TX port is truly asleep and totallyE ignores incoming data unless a process has a channel assigned to it ?    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 04:27:08 -0800 From: uli_bellgardt@hotmail.com 3 Subject: Re: Terminal driver question (silent port) C Message-ID: <1132230428.267969.199230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei schrieb:    [...]    > Terminal Characteristics: G >    Passall            No Echo            Type_ahead         No Escape  [...]   J > What are the settings to make sure a TX port is truly asleep and totallyG > ignores incoming data unless a process has a channel assigned to it ?   G You may want to add $SET TERM TXA3 /PERM  /NOTYPEAHEAD to avoid sending @ the login prompt at times when no other process has occupied the terminal port.   -Uli   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:13:42 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 3 Subject: Re: Terminal driver question (silent port) , Message-ID: <437C81EF.49F6DE40@teksavvy.com>   Alan Greig wrote: " >            /TYPE_AHEAD (default) >            /NOTYPE_AHEAD > H >         Controls whether the terminal accepts unsolicited input to the) >         limit of the type-ahead buffer.   F The problems with /NOTYPAHD is that when you do SET HOST/DTE, you thenG get data overruns and lost data if the all mighty microvax can't handle I the throughput. The modem probably has a faster CPU than the MVAX II :-(     So one would have to  
 	ALLOC TXA3,   	SET TERM TXA3/TYPAHD  	SET HOST/DTE TXA3 	EALLOC TXA3  '  instead of a quick SET HOST/DTE TXA3:      E Ideally, I would have a program always attached to the port and which E logs to file any stuff emitted by the modem, and which would create a F LAT application port, so I could SET HOST/LAT to the application whichG would let me interact with the modem and when I quit from that, the app " revents to its quiet logging mode.   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 07:42:44 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org3 Subject: Re: Terminal driver question (silent port) 3 Message-ID: <6eUEeLzfuv2d@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <437C6B5F.71692DC1@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:H > In the past few weeks, I have had problem with a DSL modem rebooting a > few times a day.   > E > The unit has a serial port plugged into a TX port on mty all mighty F > microvax II. This way, I can SET HOST/DTE to it and issue management > commands.  >   > The terminal is configured as: > $ show term txa3:/perm@ > Terminal: _TXA3:      Device_Type: Unknown       Owner: _RTA2:@ >                                               Username: SYSTEM > D >    Input:    9600     LFfill:  0      Width: 250      Parity: None2 >    Output:   9600     CRfill:  0      Page:   24 >  > Terminal Characteristics: G >    Passall            No Echo            Type_ahead         No Escape D >    Hostsync           TTsync             Lowercase          No TabI >    Wrap               Scope              No Remote          No Eightbit E >    No Broadcast       No Readsync        No Form            Fulldup G >    No Modem           No Local_echo      No Autobaud        No Hangup G >    No Brdcstmbx       DMA                No Altypeahd       Set_speed I >    No Commsync        No Line Editing    Overstrike editing No Fallback H >    No Dialup          Secure server      No Disconnect      No PasthruM >    No Syspassword     No SIXEL Graphics  No Soft Characters No Printer Port K >    Numeric Keypad     No ANSI_CRT        No Regis           No Block_mode I >    No Advanced_video  No Edit_mode       No DEC_CRT         No DEC_CRT2 K >    No DEC_CRT3        No DEC_CRT4        No DEC_CRT5        No Ansi_Color  >    VMS Style Input > D > (at the time I issued the command, I was connected to it via a DTEM > session, but the /PERM show the settings that would be normally in effect.)  > G > Questions: do the above settings ensure that no matter what the modem 5 > sends to the TX port, VMS won't send anything back?  > J > Is it possible that the data sent by the modem would fill the buffer andF > VMS would then issue an XOFF, and then, the modem would fill its own > buffers and barf/reboot ?   D XOFF?  On a port with PASSALL?  Should never happen.  If you want toA do flow control with XON/XOFF you should set the port to PASTHRU.   D I'm not absolutely sure about the behavior of a /PASSALL port in theD face of typeahead buffer overrun.  It is conceivable that the driverA starts sending control-G (bell) characters out the port, one bell @ for every incoming character.  That is certainly what happens on1 a NOPASSALL port when flow control is not active.   F Turning off the typeahead buffer as suggested elsewhere seems like the appropriate fix.   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 14:47:12 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)F Subject: Re: Video card Digital PCI ZLXp-L1 compatibility with OpenVMS, Message-ID: <437c97f0$1@news.langstoeger.at>  Y In article <437c7dc2$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>, "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com> writes:  >Look.  This is simple.  Do a  > 
 >$ SHO DEV G*  > 1 >to see if there are any graphics devices loaded.  > 
 >Then do a >  >$ ANAL/SYS  >CLUE CONFIG > 6 >(hit CR once or twice) and see if the graphics device >shows up on the bus.  > < >I am going to predict that you STILL have not yet installed3 >the Open3D LAYERED PRODUCT (at this point I do not 5 >*care* about the license).  FIND THE LAYERED PRODUCT . >DISK OR CONSOLIDATED DISTRIBUTION AND INSTALL >OPEN3D V4.9b.  ; But not if you have OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 (or V8.2) running. " In this case replace your card ;-)   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 09:03:24 -0800( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>( Subject: Where can I find the Open3D kitC Message-ID: <1132246800.165123.147280@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   F I need an Open3D kit that works with ZLXP-L1 graphic card, where can I find it?   Thanks   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 03:34:03 -0800( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>C Subject: xx.xx.xx.Invalid mode ... is this an installation problem? C Message-ID: <1132227243.024750.305070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   F Eveytime I boot my Alpha station this "ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.Invalid mode" isG depicted on the top of the screen, is this a common behavior or is this  a problem I should investigate?    Paulo    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 14:34:55 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)G Subject: Re: xx.xx.xx.Invalid mode ... is this an installation problem? , Message-ID: <437c950f$1@news.langstoeger.at>  n In article <1132227243.024750.305070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com> writes:G >Eveytime I boot my Alpha station this "ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.Invalid mode" is H >depicted on the top of the screen, is this a common behavior or is this  >a problem I should investigate?   What does >>>SHOW *MODE tell ?   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 07:44:47 -0800( From: "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com>G Subject: Re: xx.xx.xx.Invalid mode ... is this an installation problem? C Message-ID: <1132242286.961363.232020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Peter,D  Sorry my lack of knowledge but I tried the SHOW *MODE and it didn'tE work (unrecognized keyword), I know some of you out there might laugh E at this but I couldn't figure out what else this command could really  mean   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2005 19:32:37 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)G Subject: Re: xx.xx.xx.Invalid mode ... is this an installation problem? , Message-ID: <437cdad5$1@news.langstoeger.at>  n In article <1132242286.961363.232020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "pbritto" <britto.paulo@gmail.com> writes:E > Sorry my lack of knowledge but I tried the SHOW *MODE and it didn't F >work (unrecognized keyword), I know some of you out there might laughF >at this but I couldn't figure out what else this command could really >mean   I Did you do this in VMS ($ prompt) or in (SRM) console mode (>>> prompt) ? # It sounds, you did (wrongly) in VMS    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.642 ************************