1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 20 Nov 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 647       Contents:4 Re: difference between "normal" and DECnet DIRECTORY9 Re: Difference between ALL-IN-1 3.2 and Office Server 6.1 9 Re: Difference between ALL-IN-1 3.2 and Office Server 6.1 / Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today  Re: No more SETI on VMS ?  Re: No more SETI on VMS ?  Re: No more SETI on VMS ?  Re: rdb odbc and Microsoft) Re: Setting Terminal Line Charcateristics   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 19 Nov 2005 15:55:25 -0800< From: "Hein RMS van den Heuvel" <heinvandenheuvel@gmail.com>= Subject: Re: difference between "normal" and DECnet DIRECTORY C Message-ID: <1132444525.528984.179040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   K >> Why is the DIRECTORY command over DECnet not able to access the time and  size information?     C Because on the local node directory uses sysprv and QIO with nolock E modifier to access the file attributes whereas on the remote node you D have decnet FAL listener using RMS SYS$OPEN trying to get attributesC from RMS control structures (FAB, XABs, NAM) to get file attribute.   G Check out:  "FIB$V_NOLOCK Set to override exclusive access to the file, C allowing you to access the file when another user has the file open G with FIB$V_NOREAD specified. You must have SYSPRV privilege to use this  option."E ( http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/aa-pv6sg-tk/aa-pv6sg-tk.PDF )    Hein.    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Nov 2005 11:42:37 -0800  From: "Eddie" <blokey@gmail.com>B Subject: Re: Difference between ALL-IN-1 3.2 and Office Server 6.1C Message-ID: <1132429357.323942.258940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   G >From what I gather those licenses are for Mailworks and are nothing to  do with ALL-IN-1$ (I know the name suggests otherwise)  C I am very appreciative of the Hobbyist project, please don't get me  wrong,D its just that ALL-IN-1 seems to be an excellent product that without hobbyist users- is going to disappear forever into the ether.   E I think thats a shame considering all the hard work the engineers put  into it.D Other than that - thank you HP, Process, MVP and co for the Hobbyist	 licenses.    Cheers   Eddie.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:42:31 -0500 . From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>B Subject: Re: Difference between ALL-IN-1 3.2 and Office Server 6.1- Message-ID: <437FC66F.7BF2D96C@vaxination.ca>     Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: > h > In article <1132411591.716021.308060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "Eddie" <blokey@gmail.com> writes:B > >I guess it's too much for HP to release OS 6.1 to us hobbyists. >  > VMS Hobbyist license includes  >  >         ALLIN1-MAIL-DW-CLIENT  >         ALLIN1-MAIL-SERVER! >         ALLIN1-MAIL-SERVER-USER  >         ALLIN1-MAIL-VT-CLIENT  >         ALLIN1-MAIL-VT-USER   >         ALLIN1-MAIL-WAN-SERVER  C None of these are for the actual allin1 product. They were for that B chartacter cell VMSMAIL lookalike named "allin1 mail"  designed to confuse everyone.     G I one spoke via email to the producty manager for the real ALL-IN-1 and G they were under the impression that nobody was interested and suggested B instead that one should create "utility" accounts that can be usedG despite having no license. But I am not sure if that would really work.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:07:10 -0600 C From: pechter@pcp09822625pcs.eatntn01.nj.comcast.net (Bill Pechter) 8 Subject: Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today: Message-ID: <ZIOdnddWXLVzGOLenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com>  + In article <3ss007Fp8vqdU2@individual.net>, ) Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote: 4 >In article <eX8JE$vTAdf7@eisner.encompasserve.org>,? >	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: E >> In article <3sqmk8Fpfi4nU2@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill  >Gunshannon) writes: >>> E >>> While I can't provide any real evidence at this point, I would be @ >>> willing to bet the Hubble was manufactured by union workers. >>   >>    Guess again. > H >Are you saying Perkin-Elmer is not aunion shop? (are they even still inG >business?)  Not the engineers who deigned the lens, the technicians on G >the manufacturing floor who actually made the lens.  I would be amazed + >if a company that size was not unionized!!  >  >bill  >   F My brother-in-law was an optics engineer there in Danbury. Never heardH him mention a Union shop in my conversations.  No, the Hubble wasn't one of his projects.  C I worked for Concurrent  (Perkin-Elmer's old minicomputer shop) and C there never was a Union there as far as I know.  I've heard stories D about attempted organization -- but the mini computer companies kept. trying to make sure they never got a foothold.  < Now AT&T/Lucent where I worked had some interesting rules...  I As the Systems Administrator I couldn't move PC's from desktop to desktop : if they weren't in a lab.  The Union porters had to do it.  E (Left over from the AT&T days I expect.  Most sysadmins who wanted to ? get stuff done moved them after 5pm when no one would see it.).   F I believe in NJ you need to be a member of the IBEW to pull cat5 cableF or low voltage RS232 cables.  I wasn't and found I knew more about theG stuff than the guys who did.  My old boss at Pyramid Technologies had a F membership so if he contracted a Special Service job he was able to go? out on the job and bid it.  It's just a method of forcing union  membership.   F They grandfathered in some alarm techs -- but it was a political issue as to who was in.   B I'd have prefered a certification with a test to prove competence.     Bill     Bill >-- K >Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves E >bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.  >University of Scranton   | B >Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>        --   --  H   d|i|g|i|t|a|l had it THEN.  Don't you wish you could still buy it now!#   pechter-at-ureachtechnologies.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:50:57 +1030 * From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@vsm.com.au>" Subject: Re: No more SETI on VMS ?/ Message-ID: <437f842e$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>   ! Most welcome.  Thanks in advance.    Robert Alan Byer wrote:  > B > I'm currently going over the source code for BOINC and hopefully& > soon will have an OpenVMS port done. >  > R.A.Omond wrote: >  >> Gentle colleagues,  >>+ >> I note the announcement on the SETI site 4 >> (http://setiathome2.ssl.berkeley.edu/index.html): >>
 >> [Quote] >> >> November 15, 2005 >>G >> On December 15, 2005, after 6 years of operation, this project will  H >> shut down. But SETI@home is not going away. We're alive and well and E >> running on the BOINC distributed computing platform. It's easy to  G >> switch over - just follow the instructions on the new SETI@home web  ' >> site. We hope to see everyone there!  >>J >> At the time of shutdown, the stats for this project will be frozen but , >> will continue to be available on the web. >>F >> Thanks to all original SETI@home participants for their tremendous C >> dedication to the project. You made SETI@home into something of   >> lasting significance. >> [/Quote]  >>G >> This is bad news.  90% of my SETI workload is done on VMS platforms. F >> As far as I'm aware, there's no BOINC for VMS.  Are there any plans! >> to do a port ?  Burns Fisher ?  >>7 >> Just as I was about to break into the top 10,000 :-(    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:14:20 -0500 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>" Subject: Re: No more SETI on VMS ?/ Message-ID: <00A4D0B5.248C7202.3@tachysoft.com>   7 >From: eplan@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)  >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms# >Subject: Re: No more SETI on VMS ? ! >Date: 19 Nov 2005 11:42:03 +0100 0 >Organization: OpenVMS Hobbyist, Vienna, AUSTRIA  Y >In article <dlmoem$cjr$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, "R.A.Omond" <Roy@Omond.net> writes: F >>This is bad news.  90% of my SETI workload is done on VMS platforms. >  >My SETI workload is 100% VMS. > E >>As far as I'm aware, there's no BOINC for VMS.  Are there any plans   >>to do a port ?  Burns Fisher ? > / >What is BOINC ? I hope it will allow CXML too. N >It was sad to see that my machine took ~8h to compute 1 SETI unit and if CXMLQ >would have been allowed, only 1h would have been sufficient for this unit (1:8).  > 6 >>Just as I was about to break into the top 10,000 :-( > M >I recently had my 10k Result. I wanted to break into the top 30k rank (where K >I already had been at the time I had an ES40 with 4x500Mhz running too ;-)  >Currently I'm 30859th >     N I am #4154 with 40602 units.  I would hate for that to be the end of the line.   Wayne O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== P Jake Blues:"You traded the Caddy for a microphone? ...... Okay, I can buy that."   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:59:32 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)" Subject: Re: No more SETI on VMS ?2 Message-ID: <05111916593263_202AAB19@antinode.org>  ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>  O > Glad to hear it.  Please be sure to make it work on itanium as well.  I would E > be happy to compile/test for ia64 if you do not have access to one.   G    There are always the TestDrive systems, but network access from them E tends to be limited. You might need to make arrangements to unblock a  port.   D    Wake me if there's anything I can do, Alpha-wise.  (Now that I'veF switched from the AlpSta 200 4/233 to the XP1000 (500MHz), at least my rank is rising again.)  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Nov 2005 22:02:11 -0800 From: dooleys@snowy.net.au# Subject: Re: rdb odbc and Microsoft C Message-ID: <1132465796.167075.322100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    michaedi@email.uc.edu wrote:! > Excuse me for being ignorant...  > E > I'm trying to connect the sample database "corporate_data.rdb" from H > Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003  using the odbc drivers for rdb. I'm7 > doing this from "Server Explorer... Data Connections"  > H > I can connect to the "oci_sample" database and see the tables but when& > I click on a table I get an error...< > Runtime Error: [oracle][odbc][rdb]%SQL-F-Curnotope, cursor > sql_cur3E4B10 is not open  > I > When I try to connect to corporate_data I notice it prompts me one less H > time for my odbc connection information than the "oci_sample" does andB > when I click to try and explode the tables... my error is simply > "Connection Failure" > G > Does anyone know of a good tutorial for connecting a rdb  database to F > Visual Studio...  I did try and do things with SQL>GRANT...  and SET > PROTECTION...  > G > I wish I could isolate if the problem is with Visual Studio, the ODBC  > drivers, rdb or SQLServices? >  > :)E In the Oracle odbc configuration there is a "test connection" button, ( it asks for a dsn username and password,0 if it fails it should give you an error message./ On the vms side check the log files in [sqlsrv]  Phil   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:38:41 -0500 . From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>2 Subject: Re: Setting Terminal Line Charcateristics- Message-ID: <437FC589.FB5B26E1@vaxination.ca>   ) John.Martin_At_Home@BTInternet.com wrote: E > PDP8i computer its terminal port runs at 100 baud with 2 stop bits.   7 Not sure 100 baud is supported. I saw 75, 110 and 134.    ( Not sure that SET TERM supports twostop.  < However, you can write a program that will set the permanentB chartacteristics of the port. 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