1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 02 Oct 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 549       Contents: ASSETS stuff? Was: Vamp Hacked! # Re: ASSETS stuff? Was: Vamp Hacked! @ Auto-disabling screen saver on Alpha VMS V7.3-2, DWMOTIF V1.3-1?6 Re: Layoffs at HP : MH needs your suggestions or ideas Re: Multiple X servers?  Pipe & MySQL Re: Pipe & MySQL Re: Pipe & MySQL Re: Pipe & MySQL Re: Pipe & MySQL SIMH and device access.  Re: Time to produce EV79s! RE: Time to produce EV79s! Re: Time to produce EV79s! Re: Vamp Hacked! Re: Vamp Hacked! Re: Vamp Hacked! Re: Vamp Hacked! Re: Vamp Hacked! Re: [OT] - dealing with ;32767  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 08:09:39 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com ( Subject: ASSETS stuff? Was: Vamp Hacked!0 Message-ID: <873bnk93uk.fsf_-_@prep.synonet.com>  / Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:   E > PTR (not yet released to freeware, but contact Steve Hoffman if you  >      have a serious need)   B What has happened to all the code in the ASSETS collection? Has it' all been `lost'? or is it in NIH limbo?    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Oct 2005 00:27:19 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) , Subject: Re: ASSETS stuff? Was: Vamp Hacked!3 Message-ID: <YXUeh91H7DbD@eisner.encompasserve.org>   N In article <873bnk93uk.fsf_-_@prep.synonet.com>, prep@prep.synonet.com writes:1 > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:  > F >> PTR (not yet released to freeware, but contact Steve Hoffman if you >>      have a serious need) > D > What has happened to all the code in the ASSETS collection? Has it) > all been `lost'? or is it in NIH limbo?   7 I do not believe PTR was ever in the ASSETS collection.    ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 22:12:45 -0500 (CDT)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)I Subject: Auto-disabling screen saver on Alpha VMS V7.3-2, DWMOTIF V1.3-1? 2 Message-ID: <05100122124580_2020028F@antinode.org>  H    I've recently noticed that the screen saver/lock on my ("new") XP1000G seems to be disabling itself from time to time.  I set the times in the C Style Manager - Screen dialog in the New Desktop (30 minutes and 60 D minutes), and enable both.  If I re-open the dialog immediately, theH settings appear as I set them.  Then I remain logged in for some hours. F Eventually, I notice that the screen isn't saved and/or locked when itE should be, and if I re-open the Screen dialog I see that it's back to B Screen Saver Off, 10 minutes (grayed), Screen Lock Off, 60 minutesB (grayed).  Am I alone, or is this a common problem?  Any known (or suspected) reason?  E    The hardware is an XP1000 (500MHz) with a 3Dlabs Oxygen VX1 with a ? system disk which came from an AlpSta 200 4/233 with a PBXGA-BA D (ZXLp-E2).  I believe that the patches are pretty close to current. 3 PRODUCT SHOW PRODUCT /FULL mentions (among others):   . VMS V7.3-2                      DWMOTIF V1.3-14 VMS732_GRAPHICS V4.0            DWMOTIF_ECO02 V1.3-1 VMS732_SYS V8.0  VMS732_UPDATE V4.0 VMS732_VMSMUP V1.0  G    And speaking of "screen savers" which are actually "screen wasters", H I know that there's no significant VMS workstation market any more, but H is there any hope of ever seeing a true screen saver, that is, one whichG shuts off the video signal and lets the ("ENERGY STAR") CRT really save ; itself ("sleep mode", "http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm? G fuseaction=find_a_product.showProductGroup&pgw_code=MO")?  And then, if  it could just stay engaged ...  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 16:27:05 -0700  From: Lyck <lyck@muc.net> ? Subject: Re: Layoffs at HP : MH needs your suggestions or ideas 0 Message-ID: <B6udnW2LyIqlhqLeRVn-tQ@comcast.com>  * On 30-Sep-05 09:31, Russell Wallace wrote:
 > Lyck wrote:  > A >> As an European living in US, probably for the rest of my life, > >> I have a point of view based on experience on both sides of: >> the "Great Lake." I sure see many magnificent traits inC >> Americans and their society, however, the labor law is a horror. > >> Let me summarize how I see it, in the following list, which" >> might be shocking to Europeans: >>; >> 5) Nobody protects American jobs for Americans. I see an 4 >>    unspeakable flood of Indians pouring into this: >>    country, and many American veterans of the High-Tech< >>    revolution getting out of their jobs and are forced to >>    move out of California.  > J > So taking these two paragraphs together, what you're saying is that the % > Americans ought to deport you ASAP?  >   4 Very good! I think that you got the spirit!  You are3 so right, but wait, what will happen to my American 0 wife???  And since I used to work for classified/ projects for over 10 years on both sides of the 2 Atlantic, you better think about all these secrets for the men in khaki...   4 Well, now sarcasm off:  Our background is of similar6 prosperity and tradition.  Majority of people visiting7 for job return.  A few % of us stay in the US, and vice 8 versa, a few % of Americans stay in Europe.  We have had8 our immigration and outsourcing nightmare after the fall3 of Iron Curtain, you are repeating the same mistake 8 toward your own people.  You are a 300 millions society,4 you cannot take arbitrary numbers from two countries4 of 4 billions taken together willing to work for 1/44 of the usual and customary, its absurd.  Customs are7 controlling barriers for trade of goods, they exist for 6 a reason.  Now how can flow of jobs be uncontrolled???2 See HP, think of these people.  A former legend of1 American ingenuity and quality makes now articles 4 comparable to Taiwanese ones with a customer support. like in a carpet store of Bombay or Calcuta...5 We run into the same problems, as our products became 3 suddenly as innovative and reliable as Slovenian or  Sebian technology.   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Oct 2005 22:33:48 -0700 % From: nojunk@gate.cpmet.ufpel.tche.br   Subject: Re: Multiple X servers?B Message-ID: <1128231228.252974.72420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  B Xnest allows you to run "virtual" X servers as clients of "true" X servers. ForE example, supposing your display is ":0", you can provide display ":1"  with       Xnest :1  @ After that you can start your application, redirecting it to the virtual X server:        my_program -display :1  G If you want to debug your program, set the DISPLAY environment variable B to ":1" before starting the debugger. With GUI-based debuger (like DDD), C however, it is better to pass "-display :1" a command-line argument  from inside the debugger.  G I hope you can use the examples above. I'm sorry but can't remember the D correct command-line syntax for OpenVMS. I used to know these things ten  years ago, but time goes by...  G If you don't have Xnest for OpenVMS you can try to compile it, but that  can B become a hard and tedious task. The source code is included in the X.Org & reference implementation, available at  B     ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.8.2/src-single/X11R6.8.2-src.tar.bz2  : After extracting it, go to xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xnest/ .   --- Casantos   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:18:36 +0100 # From: issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com>  Subject: Pipe & MySQL 4 Message-ID: <dhmjuc$671$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>   Here's a challenge...   G When loading a database schema into MySQL on platforms such as Linux &  F Windows, the usual format is to redirect a SQL text file to the MySQL  interpreter as follows,   ) 	mysql -u username -p database < file.sql   I at which point it challenges the user for their password, and if correct   the SQL file is processed.  I I am trying to do this on VMS but with no luck. I've tried the following,   0 	$ pipe mysql -u username -p database < file.sql  I Both on the command line and in a DCL file with the password on the next   line.   E So far I've been defeated; the password challenge seems to throw the  I piping process. This is a really useful technique - can anyone help with   this.    Thanks.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:03:31 +01006 From: "Alex Daniels" <AlexNoSpamDaniels@themail.co.uk> Subject: Re: Pipe & MySQL 6 Message-ID: <433eeb93$0$14057$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>  1 "issinoho" <issinoho@gmail.com> wrote in message  . news:dhmjuc$671$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... > Here's a challenge...  > I > When loading a database schema into MySQL on platforms such as Linux &  H > Windows, the usual format is to redirect a SQL text file to the MySQL  > interpreter as follows,  > * > mysql -u username -p database < file.sql > K > at which point it challenges the user for their password, and if correct   > the SQL file is processed. > K > I am trying to do this on VMS but with no luck. I've tried the following,  > 1 > $ pipe mysql -u username -p database < file.sql  > K > Both on the command line and in a DCL file with the password on the next   > line.  > G > So far I've been defeated; the password challenge seems to throw the  K > piping process. This is a really useful technique - can anyone help with   > this.  > 	 > Thanks.   K I don't currently have access to a box with mysql on it. But I've done the  K following demo with sysman (which, off cluster prompts for a password) and   then takes my piped input.   $ ty pipe_clust.com  $ if p2 .eqs. "" then p2 = " "L $ pipe ( write sys$output "set env/n=''p2'" ; write sys$output "do ''p1'" )  | mc  sysman   	 $ set ver    $ @pipe_clust "sh ti" XXXXXX $ if p2 .eqs. "" then p2 = " "M $ pipe ( write sys$output "set env/n=XXXXXX" ; write sys$output "do sh ti" )   | m  c sysman Remote Password:+ %SYSMAN-I-ENV, current command environment:           Individual nodes: XXXXXX1         At least one node is not in local cluster 8         Username USER     will be used on nonlocal nodes  2 %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node XXXXXX    1-OCT-2005 20:52:54    9 As a total untested guess (not having mysql available)...   / $ pipe mysql -u username -p database < file.sql    Should be...  4 $ pipe type file.sql | mysql -u username -p database   Alex     ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 00:36:16 +0100 # From: issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: Pipe & MySQL 4 Message-ID: <dhn6hk$o18$1$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk>   Alex Daniels wrote: 3 > "issinoho" <issinoho@gmail.com> wrote in message  0 > news:dhmjuc$671$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... >  >>Here's a challenge...  >>I >>When loading a database schema into MySQL on platforms such as Linux &  H >>Windows, the usual format is to redirect a SQL text file to the MySQL  >>interpreter as follows,  >>* >>mysql -u username -p database < file.sql >>K >>at which point it challenges the user for their password, and if correct   >>the SQL file is processed. >>K >>I am trying to do this on VMS but with no luck. I've tried the following,  >>1 >>$ pipe mysql -u username -p database < file.sql  >>K >>Both on the command line and in a DCL file with the password on the next   >>line.  >>G >>So far I've been defeated; the password challenge seems to throw the  K >>piping process. This is a really useful technique - can anyone help with   >>this.  >>	 >>Thanks.  >  > M > I don't currently have access to a box with mysql on it. But I've done the  M > following demo with sysman (which, off cluster prompts for a password) and   > then takes my piped input. >  > $ ty pipe_clust.com   > $ if p2 .eqs. "" then p2 = " "N > $ pipe ( write sys$output "set env/n=''p2'" ; write sys$output "do ''p1'" )  > | mc	 >  sysman  >  > $ set ver  >  > $ @pipe_clust "sh ti" XXXXXX  > $ if p2 .eqs. "" then p2 = " "O > $ pipe ( write sys$output "set env/n=XXXXXX" ; write sys$output "do sh ti" )   > | m 
 > c sysman > Remote Password:- > %SYSMAN-I-ENV, current command environment: " >         Individual nodes: XXXXXX3 >         At least one node is not in local cluster : >         Username USER     will be used on nonlocal nodes > 4 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node XXXXXX >    1-OCT-2005 20:52:54 >  > ; > As a total untested guess (not having mysql available)...  > 1 > $ pipe mysql -u username -p database < file.sql  >  > Should be... > 6 > $ pipe type file.sql | mysql -u username -p database >  > Alex   >  >    Nope.   4 $ pipe type database.mysql | mysql -u root -p drupalE ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using   password: YES)   Thanks for helping though.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:25:42 -0500 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler> Subject: Re: Pipe & MySQL D Message-ID: <craigberry-CE1D21.19254201102005@news.isp.giganews.com>  4 In article <dhmjuc$671$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,%  issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> wrote:   K > I am trying to do this on VMS but with no luck. I've tried the following,  > 2 > 	$ pipe mysql -u username -p database < file.sql  1 Just a guess, but try doing it VMS-style like so:     $ define/user sys$input file.sql $ mysql -u username -p database    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 03:22:57 +0100 # From: issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: Pipe & MySQL 4 Message-ID: <dhngaa$7dq$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>   Craig A. Berry wrote: 6 > In article <dhmjuc$671$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,' >  issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> wrote:  >  > K >>I am trying to do this on VMS but with no luck. I've tried the following,  >>2 >>	$ pipe mysql -u username -p database < file.sql >  > 3 > Just a guess, but try doing it VMS-style like so:  > " > $ define/user sys$input file.sql! > $ mysql -u username -p database    No. Same result.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 08:14:56 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com   Subject: SIMH and device access.- Message-ID: <87y85c7p1b.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   A I have been using SIMH in anger to run RT-11, and wanted to write B some 5 1/4 floppies. RX-33, no problem thinks I.... Well, it seemsB that attaching a device rather than a file loses somewhere. Anyone! any clues as to what it could be?    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 07:44:08 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com # Subject: Re: Time to produce EV79s! - Message-ID: <87br289513.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ) "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> writes:    >> -----Original Message----- 8 >> From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com] # >> Sent: September 29, 2005 2:51 PM  >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com& >> Subject: Re: Time to produce EV79s! >>   >> Larry Kilgallen wrote: F >> > And will you indemnify them against anything they might owe Intel; >> > for reneging on their agreement to switch to Itanium ?  >>   >>  H >> HP extended Pa-Risc DEVELOPMENT and sales. Pa-Risc is sill being sold= >> with no end-of-sales announced. HP has ported VMS to that   >> IA64 thing and @ >> is selling it on it. HP is not marketing VMS on IA64. HP has  >> ended Alpha= >> development and donated the IP to Intel so that Intel can   >> include it in >> its own products. >>   >  > [snip...]  > J > HP has not "extended" PA-RISC. The 8900 has been announced as the end of > the line for that processor.   As was the 8800 and the 8700...   - Some endings are just more fun than others...    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:02:40 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> # Subject: RE: Time to produce EV79s! R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB70C00F@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----? > From: prep@prep.synonet.com [mailto:prep@prep.synonet.com]=20  > Sent: October 1, 2005 7:44 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com % > Subject: Re: Time to produce EV79s!  >=20+ > "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> writes:  >=20 > >> -----Original Message----- < > >> From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com]=20% > >> Sent: September 29, 2005 2:51 PM  > >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com( > >> Subject: Re: Time to produce EV79s! > >>=20  > >> Larry Kilgallen wrote: H > >> > And will you indemnify them against anything they might owe Intel= > >> > for reneging on their agreement to switch to Itanium ?  > >>=20  > >>=20 B > >> HP extended Pa-Risc DEVELOPMENT and sales. Pa-Risc is sill=20 > being soldA > >> with no end-of-sales announced. HP has ported VMS to that=20  > >> IA64 thing and D > >> is selling it on it. HP is not marketing VMS on IA64. HP has=20 > >> ended AlphaA > >> development and donated the IP to Intel so that Intel can=20  > >> include it in > >> its own products. > >>=20  > > 
 > > [snip...]  > > A > > HP has not "extended" PA-RISC. The 8900 has been announced=20  > as the end of   > > the line for that processor. >=20! > As was the 8800 and the 8700...  >=20/ > Some endings are just more fun than others...  >=20   8800=3D1Ghz 
 8900=3D1.1Ghz    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:06:14 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: Time to produce EV79s! , Message-ID: <433F6AB2.CF7673D5@teksavvy.com>   "Main, Kerry" wrote:@ > > > HP has not "extended" PA-RISC. The 8900 has been announced > > as the end of " > > > the line for that processor. > > # > > As was the 8800 and the 8700...    > 8800=1Ghz 
 > 8900=1.1Ghz     B They were still extensions to the PaRisc product life because IA64E wasn't ready to take on serious jobs and now because customers aren't H adopting IA64 like HP and Intel would have wanted them to abandon PaRisc and jump into IA64.   G The difference here is that HP sees HP-UX as strategic (still) and will E do what it takes to retain customers, even it it means producing more = PARiscs at higher speeds and keeping PaRisc alive for longer.   H For VMS, HP doesn't care and still wants to kill Alpha products ASAP andF force customers to abandon 64 bit and move to emulated VAX with CharonG vax on 8086s. And as you know, HP doesn't even have to huts to formally ? announce its decision to no longer produce VAX versions of VMS.    ------------------------------   Date: 01 Oct 2005 20:29:22 GMT$ From: "Doc." <Doc@openvms-rocks.com> Subject: Re: Vamp Hacked! 7 Message-ID: <Xns96E2E4CAAB996DCovmsrox@212.100.160.126>   + Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> wrote in ( news:00A4A9E5.AA2FE8E5.1@tachysoft.com:   G > I should have qualified this as: bulletin board, accessible by anyone D > with a web browser on any type of system anywhere on the internet. > C > The last time I used decnotes, you had to directly log into a vms H > system and issue dcl commands.  The people using my bulletin board areF > not vms users, nor do I want anyone directly logging into my system, > with or without privs.    H Well, thanks to a certain Mr Graham Burley, and the Notes API, there is B now a web interface to Notes - HTNotes.  This is available on the C Deathrow Cluster at http://gein.vistech.net/notes/ (if you have an  D account), and works with VMS authentication and authorization quite H nicely.  Yes, if you know the right magic incantations you can log into E our system's HTNotes interface and work with conferences on multiple  G systems.  For obvious (trolling) reasons I won't post the specifics of  
 that here.  F From my lurking on Eisner, I suspect it will end up in use there too, C plus it has the advantage that those who prefer the character cell  J interface can work with that, and those who want to work in a browser can  do so.  D Anyways, as Graham has demonstrated, the design of Notes allows for D expansion in ways never even dreamt of by the original implementors.     Doc.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 08:06:19 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com  Subject: Re: Vamp Hacked! - Message-ID: <877jcw9404.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   * bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  B > Somebody from the VMS community ported PHP to VMS.  That was the! > first step on the road to hell.   : Not at all, it had C, C and C++ at least well ahead of it.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 20:14:26 -0500( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> Subject: Re: Vamp Hacked! / Message-ID: <00A4AA4D.2F4431E1.1@tachysoft.com>    >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms >Subject: Re: Vamp Hacked!% >From: "Doc." <Doc@openvms-rocks.com> ! >Organization: Indexed Sequential 8 >Message-ID: <Xns96E2E4CAAB996DCovmsrox@212.100.160.126> >User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 >Date: 01 Oct 2005 20:29:22 GMT    > , >Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> wrote in) >news:00A4A9E5.AA2FE8E5.1@tachysoft.com:   > H >> I should have qualified this as: bulletin board, accessible by anyoneE >> with a web browser on any type of system anywhere on the internet.  >>  D >> The last time I used decnotes, you had to directly log into a vmsI >> system and issue dcl commands.  The people using my bulletin board are G >> not vms users, nor do I want anyone directly logging into my system,  >> with or without privs.  > I >Well, thanks to a certain Mr Graham Burley, and the Notes API, there is  C >now a web interface to Notes - HTNotes.  This is available on the  D >Deathrow Cluster at http://gein.vistech.net/notes/ (if you have an E >account), and works with VMS authentication and authorization quite  I >nicely.  Yes, if you know the right magic incantations you can log into  F >our system's HTNotes interface and work with conferences on multiple H >systems.  For obvious (trolling) reasons I won't post the specifics of  >that here.  > G >From my lurking on Eisner, I suspect it will end up in use there too,  D >plus it has the advantage that those who prefer the character cell K >interface can work with that, and those who want to work in a browser can   >do so.  > E >Anyways, as Graham has demonstrated, the design of Notes allows for  E >expansion in ways never even dreamt of by the original implementors.  >   H Is the interface available for use elsewhere?  If so, can it be used forK commercial customer support bulletin boards if the systems involved are not # running under the hobbyist license? O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== P Jake Blues:"You traded the Caddy for a microphone? ...... Okay, I can buy that."   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Oct 2005 00:23:37 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: Vamp Hacked! 3 Message-ID: <+$NpsazxKj+e@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <00A4A9E5.AA2FE8E5.1@tachysoft.com>, Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> writes:/ >>From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  >>X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms  >>Subject: Re: Vamp Hacked! ! >>Date: 1 Oct 2005 06:34:31 -0500  > 9 >>> Yes, good question.  I am not aware of any native-vms  >>> bulletin board,  >>! >>DECnotes (as used on DECUServe)  >> > N > I should have qualified this as: bulletin board, accessible by anyone with a= > web browser on any type of system anywhere on the internet.   I Yes, if you require the interface be a web browser rather than a terminal ' emulator, you should have so specified.    >>> or bugtracking systems,  >>E >>PTR (not yet released to freeware, but contact Steve Hoffman if you  >>     have a serious need)  >> > I > Accessible via a web browser from anywhere on the internet?  The people   > Accessible via a web browser via HTTP.  Or by Mail, or by DCL.F What you allow is up to you.  "Anywhere on the Internet" is up to you.  Q > involved in the bug tracking are at locations several thousand miles apart, not P > necessarily running on vms systems for web browsing, and there is no decnet or" > cluster connection between them.   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Oct 2005 00:26:09 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: Vamp Hacked! 3 Message-ID: <woUh9GTn2FiX@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <dhm83f$bh7$1$830fa7a5@news.demon.co.uk>, issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> writes: > Larry Kilgallen wrote:] >> In article <dhljot$s2r$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk>, issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> writes:  >>   >>  J >>>WHile you are there, do you know how compliant (if at all) some of the  >>>PHP extensions are? >>   >>   >> Compliant with what ? >>   >>  - >>>I've tried to load Drupal which needs the  J >>>php_session extension. Doesn't work AT ALL. Similarly, vBulletin needs 2 >>>the php_xml extension - again complete failure. >>> ' >>>Who do I talk to about these issues?  >>   >>  2 >> The vendor who sold you the PHP implementation. > 1 > Threads like this frustrate the hell out of me.   A Consider those of us who have not seen the answer to the question  "Compliant with what ?".   > It seems impossible to  J > ask a simple question without half a dozen people ripping you to shreds A > with unhelpful responses largely composed of pedantic minutiae.  > - > Look, HP kindly offer free versions of PHP  K > (http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws_php.html); I  K > have chosen to utilise said product in an effort to provide a service to  2 > the community. I am simply asking for some help.  B "Who do I talk to about this issue?" sounds very much like you areE looking for support.  If you got "free software" you are on your own.    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Oct 2005 00:30:02 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ' Subject: Re: [OT] - dealing with ;32767 3 Message-ID: <tCmUdkjAUegr@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <Bcv%e.28835$VI6.11434@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net> writes: >  > 
 > BRAD wrote:  >>  D >> All too true - while there are many of us with the knowledge and I >> experience to deal with simple problems like this, too many of us are  K >> unemployed, while third-party "experts" pull down the "big bucks".  Sad.  > K > Sadly true. The site clearly had a high level of VMS expertise available  E >   until about 1998 - diminishing after that. There was a flurry of  E > activity around 2000 - probably for Y2K compliance, then virtually  K > nothing. It's amazing how long systems built for fault tolerance can run  J > for as nodes and 1/2 of a dual controller pair fail over the years. But G > even a VMS cluster can't run when fans fail in the last node :-( The  I > systems are not under hardware or software support and run a financial  ? > services application for a major bank. Better not say more...   C The recently release US Federal Government NIST SP 800-53 has a set F of rules that would avoid such malfeasance.  I hope it will be adopted# by the HIPPA/SOX/GLB crowd as well.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.549 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  (8) bytes transferred. <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,81a5 >>> 200 Port 12.81 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.e <<< RETR grand_tots.comoZ >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/grand_tots.com (2386 bytes) started.: >>> 226 Transfer completed.  1642 (8) bytes transferred. <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,82o5 >>> 200 Port 12.82 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.o <<< RETR login.comU >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/login.com (1692 bytes) started.f: >>> 226 Transfer completed.  1318 (8) bytes transferred. <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,8315 >>> 200 Port 12.83 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.d <<< RETR old_b.comU >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/old_b.com (1446 bytes) started. 9 >>> 226 Transfer completed.  570 (8) bytes transferred.  <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,84 5 >>> 200 Port 12.84 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.  <<< RETR submit.txt5V >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/submit.txt (4982 bytes) started.: >>> 226 Transfer completed.  4105 (8) bytes transferred. <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,8505 >>> 200 Port 12.85 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.E <<< RETR tapecopy.history ] >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/tapecopy.history (29610 bytes) started.l; >>> 226 Transfer completed.  28071 (8) bytes transferred., <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,86o5 >>> 200 Port 12.86 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted. <<< RETR tctree.lisoW >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/tctree.lis (40764 bytes) started.d; >>> 226 Transfer completed.  39003 (8) bytes transferred.8 <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,8715 >>> 200 Port 12.87 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.  <<< RETR tctreeproc.lis [ >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/tctreeproc.lis (24834 bytes) started.t; >>> 226 Transfer completed.  22253 (8) bytes transferred., <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,88o5 >>> 200 Port 12.88 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted. <<< RETR template.rno X >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/template.rno (1434 bytes) started.9 >>> 226 Transfer completed.  582 (8) bytes transferred., <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,89o5 >>> 200 Port 12.89 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.  <<< RETR tree.seqrU >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/tree.seq (14132 bytes) started.n; >>> 226 Transfer completed.  13389 (8) bytes transferred.4 <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,91t5 >>> 200 Port 12.91 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.m <<< RETR treesize.comGX >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/treesize.com (2910 bytes) started.: >>> 226 Transfer completed.  2107 (8) bytes transferred. <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,92t5 >>> 200 Port 12.92 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.e <<< RETR treetape.comeX >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/treetape.com (1998 bytes) started.: >>> 226 Transfer completed.  1018 (8) bytes transferred. <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,93.5 >>> 200 Port 12.93 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.z <<< RETR vaxlt91atpe.doc\ >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/vaxlt91atpe.doc (13690 bytes) started.; >>> 226 Transfer completed.  12569 (8) bytes transferred., <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,94o5 >>> 200 Port 12.94 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.  <<< RETR vlt91a.txteV >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/91avaxlt/vlt91a.txt (4670 bytes) started.: >>> 226 Transfer completed.  4389 (8) bytes transferred. <<< PORT 194,116,244,16,12,95a5 >>> 200 Port 12.95 at Host 194.116.244.16 accepted.e <<