1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 03 Sep 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 492       Contents: Re: crmpsc INVALIDARG 0 Re: Hp Technology forum (New Orleans sept 12-15)0 Re: Hp Technology forum (New Orleans sept 12-15)0 Re: Hp Technology forum (New Orleans sept 12-15)0 Re: Hp Technology forum (New Orleans sept 12-15) Re: Itanium Solutions Alliance Re: Itanium Solutions Alliance< Re: Newbie - Booting Alphaserver 4/266 and third party disks  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 3 Sep 2005 01:31:41 -0700 ' From: "saee" <aditi.hatwalne@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: crmpsc INVALIDARGC Message-ID: <1125736301.678284.133580@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Thanks for help.F Now what I have done is I allocate bunch of memory by call sys$expreg.D Then do crmpsc for each file. If memory requirement is more then  myB limit then close my application and  ask for increase the pagefile quota and virtual pages. Thanks,  Aditi    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 01:56:10 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 9 Subject: Re: Hp Technology forum (New Orleans sept 12-15) , Message-ID: <43193AEE.CC0C2DC9@teksavvy.com>  
 AEF wrote:F > Uh, if you're still comparing him to Giuliani, what did he do to aid; > any evacuation? The subways were ordered to stop. Period.   G I wasn't refering to general evacuation skills, just general leadership H abilities (from the viewer's point of view).  Guiliani presented himselfG as someone in control, inspired confidence. The New Orleans mayor seems G to be powerless and doesn't present himself as somone capable of saving 	 the city.   C It could simply be that Guiliani is much more media savvy and hence E appears much better to TV viewers. Bit that is still a very important  quality required of a leader.     G > and/or took ferries. These were people at work trying to get home. In H > NO you have people trapped by flood waters on the roofs of their homesI > trying to get out, but have no home to go to once they get out, if they 
 > get out.  F From a mayor's point of view, he has a role to inform his constituentsC via the media etc on what is being done and when it is being done.  E Right now, it seems that there are a gazillion sources of information B coming from various government agencies, so it doesn't provide the( impression that the mayor is in control.    I > Many people could walk to working transportation on 9/11. People in New H > Orleans are trapped on their roofs or fighting each other for food and > water.  E But the media don't mention the portions of NO which are not flooded. D Are there people there getting any food/water ? Are they getting any
 policing ?    G > And just how is he going to get all these things running when they're = > covered by feet of water that came from levees that broke?    B Convention centre, from the look of it, was not on a flooded area.  B And even if flooded, helicopters can bring food, water and porableF toilets, generators, medical supplies, and some authority with workingE communications device (sat phone, walky talky etc). This was not done 	 for days.    > Do youG > expect his police to swim to the levees with sandbags on their backs?   G Since this is a VMS group and disaster recovery is a hot topic, I would H expect the city might have had levee repair "kits" strategically locatedC near the levees, perhaps already on barges during hurricane season. E Interesting that they are bringing the bags one by one  by helicopter & when the canal seems to be navigable.   , > I thought pretty much nothing was working.  H That is what the media is making it look like. However, I have read thatC there is telephone service in some of the industrial areas, notably C Michoud, where the make the ETs). NASA's Stennis also has telephone D service. (possibly via satellite links). The airport is operational,? they have power, ventilation.  Generators can be provided too.      $ If you look at the satellite images,L http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/katrina/new_orleans_msi_aug31_2005_dg.jpg  E  you'll see that west of one of the canal, it is dry. (but they don't C show much of it since it is not of interest to news media who don't * report on undamaged sections of the city).     H yes, the flooded area is large. But the picture doesn't show how much ofH that area is covered with a few cm of water versus metres of water. Just9 that one picture does show dry areas around new orleans.      D Remember that the media hadn't even bothered to visit the conventionB centre. They have definitely not gone to every area of the city toA report what works and what doesn't.  If they focus on the central D (flooded) portion, then of course, they will have mobility problems.  E It is quite possible that areas west of the cana are functioning very B well with some of the people who sayed living a fairly normal lifeD (relatively) but might need food supplies. We don't know because the media aren't reporting.     G When we have the ice storm in Montreal in 1998, even on radio, we heard B regular reports from Hydro Qubec on what parts of southern qubecF worked and didn't work, and which regions would require much more timeE to restore than others. And we knew that even portions that had power H inside of montreal were are risk of power failures due to load shedding.C  The subways system had all escalators shut down to save power, and E there were periods where portions of the subway were shutdown to save  power.    G For new orleans, they aren't reporting on regions, they are just saying B that all fo its is flooded/dead. The media were reluctant to bringD reporters to the airport since they woudl be shoring portiosn of theR city that are working and that would diminish the sensationalism of the reporting.  C The problem is that when politicians rely on sensationalistic media H reports, they make decisions which may or may not be right. If the mediaE say that all of NO is flooded, then of course the mayor will call for H total evacuation. But if they media were to rteport that there are largeE sectiosn west fo the canal which are not flooded, including parks X Y E and Z, perhaps decisions to evacuate (post hurricane) might have been O different sicn it might have been possible to setup tent cities in those areas.    ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 07:28:31 -0500 (CDT)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)9 Subject: Re: Hp Technology forum (New Orleans sept 12-15) 2 Message-ID: <05090307283151_2040B07B@antinode.org>  ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>   B > Yes, the discussion is off topic.  Some of the posts are pretty J > meaningless.  But it's a rather big thing, and c.o.v isn't some type of 1 > vacuum that can shut out the rest of the world.   I    It sure should be.  Sure it can.  There's more to the world than VMS.  E There are more forums than comp.os.vms.  Why try to include the whole  thing here?   G    Perhaps we should also use it to exchange recipies.  Everybody eats, H so that's a big thing, too.  I was under the impression that comp.os.vmsA was about computers, specifically the VMS operating system, not a @ general forum for discussion of everything on the planet of some@ interest to someone who knows somebody who has seen a VMS system somewhere, sometime.  G    All the off-topic content dilutes the technical content to the point A where it's too much trouble to wade through the trash to find the C treasure.  This degrades, and could eventually destroy, what should  remain a valuable resource.    >   Don't read things C > you're not interest in.  Others won't tell you what you can post.   G    And the Info-VAX users getting this dreck by e-mail need to cull the , crap manually, which can be a real nuisance.  E    When I start posting car repair stories, movie reviews, complaints C about the space program, and debates between intelligent design and H evolution, I certainly expect _someone_ (preferably everyone) to tell me to take it SOMEWHERE ELSE.  F    Please explain why you think that non-VMS discussion topics enhanceG the value of comp.os.vms instead of reducing it.  Don't you have a life > in which someone, somewhere (else) will listen to you, either?  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Sep 2005 14:41:00 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)9 Subject: Re: Hp Technology forum (New Orleans sept 12-15) + Message-ID: <3ntqvsF36kq6U1@individual.net>   , In article <4318F587.416DA975@teksavvy.com>,0 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:H > BTW, they have used C-130 military aircraft to airlift refugees out of > New Orleans.  I What's your point?  How many at a time? C-130's have a row of seats along I eother side of the cargo compartment with seatbelts.  Current C-130's can I  carry 128 people (92 if their wearing parachutes :-). Not 1st Class, but F suitable for the safe transport of human beings.  But you don't sit orH stand them down the middle of the cargo bay as the it is all rollers andI the steep angle that a C-130 takes on take-off would have everybody piled I up against the ramp doors. (Yes, I have not only flown in C-130's but was D trained to load them as well!! Air Force Load Planners Course, 1980)   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:44:35 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 9 Subject: Re: Hp Technology forum (New Orleans sept 12-15) 0 Message-ID: <11hjddh4tbo4md3@corp.supernews.com>   Steven M. Schweda wrote:) > From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>  > B >>Yes, the discussion is off topic.  Some of the posts are pretty J >>meaningless.  But it's a rather big thing, and c.o.v isn't some type of 1 >>vacuum that can shut out the rest of the world.  >  > K >    It sure should be.  Sure it can.  There's more to the world than VMS.  G > There are more forums than comp.os.vms.  Why try to include the whole 
 > thing here?    Good point.   I >    Perhaps we should also use it to exchange recipies.  Everybody eats, J > so that's a big thing, too.  I was under the impression that comp.os.vmsC > was about computers, specifically the VMS operating system, not a B > general forum for discussion of everything on the planet of someB > interest to someone who knows somebody who has seen a VMS system > somewhere, sometime.   Did you want some recipies?   I >    All the off-topic content dilutes the technical content to the point C > where it's too much trouble to wade through the trash to find the E > treasure.  This degrades, and could eventually destroy, what should  > remain a valuable resource.   ? Degrades, some.  Destroy, not unless there are too many rigid,   inflexible, intolerant people.  H It seems to me that when a valid technical question comes up, there are G usually quite a few good helpful replies.  So the technical stuff gets  G serviced on a priority basis.  The rest is just the small talk between  G friends (as Bob mentioned) when there isn't a burning technical issue.  1 It seems some like things this way, others don't.    >>  Don't read things C >>you're not interest in.  Others won't tell you what you can post.  >  > I >    And the Info-VAX users getting this dreck by e-mail need to cull the . > crap manually, which can be a real nuisance.   Yeah, that's a real problem.  G >    When I start posting car repair stories, movie reviews, complaints E > about the space program, and debates between intelligent design and J > evolution, I certainly expect _someone_ (preferably everyone) to tell me > to take it SOMEWHERE ELSE.  I What type of cars?  Sure is enough to complain about in the government's   space program.  H >    Please explain why you think that non-VMS discussion topics enhanceI > the value of comp.os.vms instead of reducing it.  Don't you have a life @ > in which someone, somewhere (else) will listen to you, either?  1 Nah.  They're too busy giving me more jobs to do.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 01:56:09 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> ' Subject: Re: Itanium Solutions Alliance 0 Message-ID: <11hieem8hnk0o1d@corp.supernews.com>   Rob Young wrote:  ? > 	So you are so opposed to Montecito pulling even with Power5,   A Rob.  Get a calendar.  Power5 is selling now.  It's not a future.   G You are not doing you reputation any good when you continually compare  B planed future products with products available to customers today.  F Sure, the itanic is finally overshadowing Alpha, 4+ years after major  Alpha development was stopped.  F And no, I'm not still stuck on Alpha.  I'm just pointing out that the F itanic takes 4 years to surpass a dead CPU.  Want to tell us the date  IBM will start standing still?  G What are you planning on comparing with Power6 when it's in customer's    hands?  Power7?  Power8? .......   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:00:13 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> ' Subject: Re: Itanium Solutions Alliance 0 Message-ID: <11hjeas6sqkf17e@corp.supernews.com>   JF Mezei wrote:  > Dave Froble wrote: > G >>And no, I'm not still stuck on Alpha.  I'm just pointing out that the G >>itanic takes 4 years to surpass a dead CPU.  Want to tell us the date   >>IBM will start standing still? >  >  > I > The uncertainty about that IA64 thing's future has made me realise that I > Dachtera was right all along: Port VMS to the mainstream platform (aka: B > 8086) and then you can really grow VMS and forget about platform > uncertainties.    C When VMS migrated to a 64 bit system, IA-32 became a useless idea.  G Before then, well, I'm not convinced.  People who make devices for PCs  A write their own drivers for windows.  Some may write drivers for  E Linux/Unix, I don't really know.  Without good drivers, VMS on IA-32  B wouldn't be competitive.  Would you want to have to move graphics < drivers into the kernel, with more crashes than windoz gets?  H > With IA64's market niche narrowing, it makes it impossible to grow VMS > back.   I Continuing with Alpha would have avoided losing so many VMS sites.  It's  ; not just IA-64, it's the people who will never again trust.   H > The 8086 may have started as a toy controller. It may not be as prettyJ > architecture as Alpha. But it is mainstream, with huge market share (90%D > or more) and the installed software is so huge that even Intel was7 > unable to kill the 8086 in favour of that IA64 thing.   ; They were pretty full of themselves.  Got taken down a bit.   I > If VMS were ported to the 8086 (64 bit version, of course) now, imagine I > how easy it would be to grow it and give it back scalability it used to 0 > have and more (we'd have laptops running VMS).  I With the emulators, you can have such.  Don't know about Charon-VAX, but  E the rest aren't packaged for a novice.  Never get anywhere that way,  / but, perhaps getting anywhere was never a goal.   G > With VMS on the 8086, there wouldn't be many questions left about the A > future of VMS, especially if they could start to make it grow.    H There would still be the hugh issue of device drivers.  Not saying that @ cannot be solved, but without a good solution, you'd still have 1 'supported' devices, and nothing else would work.   6 Possibly USB would be part of a solution.  Don't know.  J > Linux came out of nowhere because it was available on the 8086. VersionsG > on other platforms are small niches and are insignificant compared to  > Linux on 8086 numbers.  @ Not all devices work on Linux.  It's not as good as you suggest.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 23:47:56 -0600 % From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com> E Subject: Re: Newbie - Booting Alphaserver 4/266 and third party disks A Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050902234700.022f47f8@raptor.psccos.com>   ( At 11:17 PM 9/2/2005, Dave Froble wrote: >healyzh@aracnet.com wrote: ( >>Steven Falvey <steve@ddt.co.nz> wrote: >>, >>>V5.3-89, built on Oct  6 1998 at 11:14:27
 >>> >>>b dka0  >>>(boot dka0.0.0.6.0 -flags A) 0 >>>block 0 of dka0.0.0.6.0 is a valid boot block' >>>reading 969 blocks from dka0.0.0.6.0  >>>bootstrap code read in  >>>Building FRU table  >>>FRU table size = 0x8b9 6 >>>base = 1c0000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 79200 >>>initializing HWRPB at 2000 % >>>initializing page table at 7fd0000  >>>initializing machine state & >>>setting affinity to the primary CPU >>>jumping to bootstrap codeI >>>%APB-F-BADSYSROOT, System root [SYSA.] does not exist, check bootflags  >>E >>I'm suspecting that your problem is that the system was setup for a ; >>non-standard [SYSA.], and the new install created [SYS0.]   L Yup - "A" is used for booting Tru64 UNIX.  Set BOOT_OSFLAGS to "" and it'll  fix the problem.     ------J +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+J | Dan O'Reilly                  |  "There are 10 types of people in this |J | Principal Engineer            |   world: those who understand binary   |J | Process Software              |   and those who don't."                |J | http://www.process.com        |                                        |J +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.492 ************************