1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 09 Sep 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 504       Contents: Allpha 8.2-1  Release  RE: Allpha 8.2-1  Release  Re: Allpha 8.2-1  Release  Re: Allpha 8.2-1  Release  Re: Allpha 8.2-1  Release  Re: Allpha 8.2-1  Release E Re: creating/manipulating user accounts programmatically from Windows E Re: creating/manipulating user accounts programmatically from Windows   Re: EFI/console general question( Re: Hurd to detail strategic plan Dec 13( Re: Hurd to detail strategic plan Dec 13( Re: Hurd to detail strategic plan Dec 13 Re: Macro code+ Re: Microsoft to limit Windows apps on IA64 - Re: OpenVMS  FTP server with these features ? + OT: Dell queitly remove all Itanium servers  Re: Prior version support  RE: Prior version support - Re: SYS$QIO with Extended File Specifications - Re: SYS$QIO with Extended File Specifications 2 Re: VAX OpenVMS 7.1 and TCP/IP 5.1 startup problem Re: VAXen as a plural of VAX Re: VAXen as a plural of VAX Re: VAXen as a plural of VAX  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:06:32 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Allpha 8.2-1  Release( Message-ID: <opswt9g6drzgicya@hyrrokkin>  5 I thought this was due out this month.  Anybody know?    Looking at HP sitehttp://search.hp.com/query.html?hpvc=US+-+English&lang=eng&qp=site%3Ah71000.www7.hp.com+url%3Ah71028.www7.hp.com/ERC&qt=vms+roadmap&la=en&hps=OpenVMS+systems+sites&hpr=http%3A//h71000.www7.hp.com/&lk=2&ctry=us&submit.y=0&hpo=hphqglobal,hphqWWesg,hphqbcs,hphqopenvms&hpn=Return+to+OpenVMS+systems+site&hpl=1&hpc=1&hpa=http%3A//welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/contact_us.html&uf=0&submit.x=0   One entry/link is   A  	OpenVMS ask the wizard - Seeking Roadmap to Future Releases? 	 0 	http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_7314.html	 	2005-08-17   H So you would think it ias current, but if you click on that the document" that comes up is dated 28-NOV-2001  . Maybe the problem was using the search engine?   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:44:17 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> " Subject: RE: Allpha 8.2-1  ReleaseR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB6B26D2@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message------ > From: Tom Linden [mailto:tom@kednos.com]=20 " > Sent: September 9, 2005 10:07 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Allpha 8.2-1 Release  >=207 > I thought this was due out this month.  Anybody know?  >=20 > Looking at HP siteF > http://search.hp.com/query.html?hpvc=3DUS+-+English&lang=3Deng&qp=3DB > site%3Ah71000.www7.hp.com+url%3Ah71028.www7.hp.com/ERC&qt=3Dvms+J roadmap&la=3Den&hps=3DOpenVMS+systems+sites&hpr=3Dhttp%3A//h71000.www7.hp= com/ &lk=3D2&ctry=3Dus&submit.y=3D0> B &hpo=3Dhphqglobal,hphqWWesg,hphqbcs,hphqopenvms&hpn=3DReturn+to+OpF > enVMS+systems+site&hpl=3D1&hpc=3D1&hpa=3Dhttp%3A//welcome.hp.com/cou0 > ntry/us/en/contact_us.html&uf=3D0&submit.x=3D0 >=20 > One entry/link is  >=20E > > 	OpenVMS ask the wizard - Seeking Roadmap to Future Releases? =09 4 > 	http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_7314.html=09
 > 	2005-08-17  >=20@ > So you would think it ias current, but if you click on that=20 > the document$ > that comes up is dated 28-NOV-2001 >=200 > Maybe the problem was using the search engine?     Tom,  D The OpenVMS V8.2-1 release is Integrity specific. Among other thingsG like performance enhancements, support of new systems and bug fixes, it G also brings Integrity support more in line with full Alpha support e.g.  96 node cluster support etc.  9 Reference: (online doc's now include updated V8.2-1 info) - http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/os82_index.html   G I believe this release went to manuacturing already, so the kits should C be received shortly by those on the appropriate distribution lists.    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:04:19 GMT * From: Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com>" Subject: Re: Allpha 8.2-1  Release5 Message-ID: <090920051036553899%paul.anderson@hp.com>   D In article <opswt9g6drzgicya@hyrrokkin>, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:  7 > I thought this was due out this month.  Anybody know?   D There is no OpenVMS Alpha V8.2-1 release.  V8.2-1 is Integrity only, available soon.    Paul   --    Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineering    Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 2005 09:48:50 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) " Subject: Re: Allpha 8.2-1  Release3 Message-ID: <PgwgbqnRVL1n@eisner.encompasserve.org>   N In article <opswt9g6drzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:  7 > I thought this was due out this month.  Anybody know?   * I thought it was going to be Itanium-only.  % But I was not paying close attention.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 09:49:21 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> " Subject: Re: Allpha 8.2-1  Release( Message-ID: <opswug0jwuzgicya@hyrrokkin>  H On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:04:19 GMT, Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com>   wrote:  F > In article <opswt9g6drzgicya@hyrrokkin>, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> > wrote: > 8 >> I thought this was due out this month.  Anybody know? > F > There is no OpenVMS Alpha V8.2-1 release.  V8.2-1 is Integrity only, > available soon.  >  > Paul > J I was planning on bringing up a new Alpha box and wondered when the next   VMS % release after 8.2 would be available.  Tom    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 2005 13:39:35 -0500 / From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) " Subject: Re: Allpha 8.2-1  Release- Message-ID: <Xbn0$hPdF4wM@cuebid.zko.dec.com>   % "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:   L > I was planning on bringing up a new Alpha box and wondered when the next  + > VMS release after 8.2 would be available.   I Most likely CYQ4 2006 for what is likely to be called V8.3 (for both I64   and Alpha).    --    M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.com    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:36:22 -0400* From: "Dennis Couch" <dencouch@us.ibm.com>N Subject: Re: creating/manipulating user accounts programmatically from Windows) Message-ID: <43219be5_3@news3.prserv.net>   L This is a good point.  I've worked in VMS environments, over the years, thatG are regulated by the EPA, the FDA, the SEC, and others.  I haven't seen K anything in quite a while that mentions the C2 certification that VMS (had? E still has?)  In the past, VMS systems were used extensively in secure H environments in various government agencies.  I'm not sure how extensive that is any more...   ? "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message % news:4320DB4D.8815AA4F@comcast.net...  mabbuttg@yahoo.ca wrote: >  > David J Dachtera wrote:  >  > <snip> >  > > C > > In general, using a "toy" like Windows to automate a commercial L > > computing platform like VMS is rather frowned upon. Windows has too manyF > > issues with stability and security for many "regulation compliant" > > environments, also.  >  > I agree with the sentiment,   F Not sentiment, REQUIREMENT! In some of VMS's market niches, complianceE with government regulations goes well beyond Sarb/Ox, and even beyond  HIPAA!  - > but the other half of this equation is that E > we also have a decent-sized Windows environment, and therefore also E > create/modify Windows accounts on a regular basis as well.  So, I'm G > looking to create a "master" script/program that will prompt for both D > Windows and OpenVMS account information and create (and eventually > modify) accounts as needed.   E Have you considered a larger scale of authentication? Something (that ( can be) common to all your environments?   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 09:34:42 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> N Subject: Re: creating/manipulating user accounts programmatically from Windows( Message-ID: <opswugb4fhzgicya@hyrrokkin>  G On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:36:22 -0400, Dennis Couch <dencouch@us.ibm.com>    wrote:  K > This is a good point.  I've worked in VMS environments, over the years,    > thatI > are regulated by the EPA, the FDA, the SEC, and others.  I haven't seen I > anything in quite a while that mentions the C2 certification that VMS    > (had? G > still has?)  In the past, VMS systems were used extensively in secure J > environments in various government agencies.  I'm not sure how extensive > that is any more...   F Well we have customers in several three and four letter agencies and   several = foreign MoDs, why, because PL/I doesn't have buffer overruns.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:56:17 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) ) Subject: Re: EFI/console general question L Message-ID: <rdeininger-0909050656150001@user-uinj42r.dialup.mindspring.com>  5 In article <432118C6.D0F44C87@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei % <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:   A >Just trying to understand relationship between CPU and the rest.  > B >When a chip built/designed, is it console/boot medium agnostic ?   " Yes, at least for mainstream CPUs.  D >Does the CPU simply branch to a specific memory location when it isF >powered on/halted ? If so, it is *theoretically* possible to create aH >VAX board using already fabricated Microvax II chips, but put in an EFIB >console ROM that would have been compiled for VAX and which wouldF >support  Q-BUS access to a hard drive (so it can find the rest of the >EFI program/os loader) ?   M Yes, branch to a specific memory location is a pretty common way of starting.   J Alphas are a little fancier; they first load up the instruction cache fromB a serial ROM using a 2-pin serial interface.  Then start executingJ instructions in the cache.  This means the CPU HW doesn't need to know howH to talk to memory at first.  The SROM code teaches the CPU how to access memory.   J Most Alpha systems have multiple versions of the SROM code, selectable viaB a jumper.  The "extra" versions enable manufacturing and debugging
 functions.  H >Could one go one more step and just replace the ROM chip on an existingE >Microvax II board (example) with a new ROM containing an EFI console H >written to support the MVII chip and the specific support chips on that >board ?  5 Sure, if the ROM is big enough.  (It probably isn't.)   H >Or are CPUs FABBed with specific support for a specific console program >?   >  > G >When a CPU powers up or is halted (or whatever other signal), is it as H >simple as simply branching to a predetermined physical memory address ?' >Or is it far more involved than this ?   H It can be more involved, since the CPU may not be able to talk to memoryJ yet.  These days, a secondary processor often does things like control theJ power-up sequencing and do the first-pass initialization memory controller chips.    % >OK, different twist to the question:  > I >If intel makes a certain model Pentium chip, could HP build an EFI based I >motherboard/system while Dell would build a BIOS based console, but both  >using the same CPU  ?   I don't see why not.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:25:56 +0200 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>1 Subject: Re: Hurd to detail strategic plan Dec 13 + Message-ID: <3od2p4F58vfrU1@individual.net>    Dave Froble wrote: > Main, Kerry wrote:   <snip>   >>H >> Reminds me of the story of a hot dog vendor in New York that did veryJ >> well because he based his business on good Customer service, was alwaysJ >> talking to his customers and always gave them extra mustard and ketchup% >> if they asked. Business was great.  >>J >> His son goes off to college and after a few years gets his MBA. The sonK >> comes back and tells his Dad that times are bad and that he needs to cut I >> back on the mustard and ketchup. Also, he needs to speed up the way he G >> does things and quit talking so much to his Customers or is business  >> will soon drop drastically. >>F >> So, the hot dog vendor follows his sons advice - after all, he is a >> college grad and has an MBA.  >> >> Guess what ?  >>H >> His son was right - the vendors hot dog business dropped drastically. >> >> :-)     And to be cynical ... :-)   E The son then uses his MBA credentials/skills to raise investments to  . start a chain or take over an existing one :-)   >  > Yep! > J > His son would have learned much more about the business if he worked in K > it, and then expanded into another location, and worked in that location.  > I > The biggest thing that I learned about application design is, before I  I > can design software to help run a company, I first have to know enough  = > about the company that I could run it without the software.  > F > It's real interesting the things that you learn when you learn what  > makes a company work.  > K > There was the company in the lumber business, which at one time had some  J > very favorable payment terms with their suppliers.  They had low prices D > and moved plenty of product.  They didn't make any money from the J > product.  They had a 60 day window from when they were paid, until they J > had to pay their vendors, and the float is where all profits came from. J >  Without knowing that, one could not place sufficient emphasis on ultra " > fast turn-around of receivables. >   G A brief spell in a software house specialising in the holiday industry  F demonstrated similar. Although the plane seat and hotel room bookings D systems were what they proudly demonstrated to the public, the back G office systems were all about finance - taking deposits, then the full  E amount before the holiday, selling insurance, and on the supply side  D delaying payment as long as possible, getting currency fluctuations I right and so on. I clearly remember one comment, said only half in jest,  C that the real business of a tour operator was finance, and selling  2 holidays was simply a small part of the operation.   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 2005 12:51:25 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)1 Subject: Re: Hurd to detail strategic plan Dec 13 + Message-ID: <3odeqdF5e683U1@individual.net>   0 In article <11i1ud05rcvvm6e@corp.supernews.com>,* 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: > D > You might get the idea that I don't think much of the "never done = > anything, know everything" consultants, and you'd be right.   ; Gee, I feel the same way about some (most!) academics.  :-)    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:59:19 GMT 1 From: Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> 1 Subject: Re: Hurd to detail strategic plan Dec 13 2 Message-ID: <X3kUe.12305$Rn7.768@news.cpqcorp.net>   Simon Clubley wrote:^ > In article <431FF265.AFB3BEAD@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:e >>http://news.com.com/Hurd+offers+just+a+glimpse+of+HP+strategy/2100-7342_3-5853144.html?tag=nefd.top < >>IBM, meanwhile, to focus on business processing, he said. = >   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I > I went and read this article just to make sure that JF was not omitting K > information to order to promote an agenda, and that Hurd really is quoted  > as saying that.  > : > Hurd really is quoted as saying that in the article. :-(  H Don't jump to the conclusion that the reporter was accurately reporting C what Mark Hurd said. If the reporter wasn't familiar with the term  G Business Process Re-engineering, he'd tend to try to translate what he  I heard into something he thought made sense (to him), which may be how it  ! came out as Business Process'ing.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 05:41:17 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: Macro code ( Message-ID: <opswt5i3fhzgicya@hyrrokkin>  J On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:16:14 -0500, Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> wrote:  H > In article <opswtgvvb0zgicya@hyrrokkin>, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com>   > wrote:H >> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:14:20 -0400, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>	 >> wrote:  >>H >>> Rarely would I use assembler code for something I can do in a higherJ >>> level language.  However, what about when you want to do something the< >>> language won't do for you?  Then things begin to be fun. > H >> Actually only a few constructs need to be added to  3GL to completelyG >> replace the need for assembler.  I did it 20 years ago with PL/I and E >> demonstrated  that I could replace any module in Berkeley Unix 4.4  >> whether in assembler or C.  > & > Including things like a boot loader?  H Well, that might not be practical, since it is a one-off small piece of,3 but in theory yes with the collusion of the linker.  >  > -Dan   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 2005 07:16:19 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 4 Subject: Re: Microsoft to limit Windows apps on IA643 Message-ID: <0Be1NbxyVQZB@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <WI8R4MI7ugOc@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:  > E > Perhaps they would have trouble using it effectively or managing it ) > when done, but installation is trivial.   G    Installing VMS requires reading and following cookbook instructions. I    I know people who _won't_ read and follow instructions.  Some of them      have PCs.   ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:39:44 +0000 (UTC)< From: gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann)6 Subject: Re: OpenVMS  FTP server with these features ?) Message-ID: <dfsac0$r5v$1@news.BelWue.DE>   _ In article <1126274680.650190.24200@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, pierre.bru@gmail.com writes:  > > >I'm looking for an OpenVMS FTP server with these features (in >decreasing interest order): > A >- implement the REST command to allows clients to restart broken 
 >downloads >- implement secure FTP E >- understand un*x syntax (commands, directories look and feel, ODS-5 0 >filename (foo.bar.zip instead of foo^.bar.zip))  . Multinet supports the latter two but not REST.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 16:10:03 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>4 Subject: OT: Dell queitly remove all Itanium servers= Message-ID: <vtiUe.14072$k22.12591@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   I Noticed today on the Dell website that they seem to have quietly retired  G   Itanium servers (well maybe a few factory refurbs.) A month ago they  I appeared right alongside the Xeon systems if you selected "servers". Now  2 they have gone. Trying a search gave me this page R http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/root?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=bizI which now gives a "not found" error if you click on Itanium 2. All other   links work.  --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 2005 08:04:15 -0700 ' From: "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> " Subject: Re: Prior version supportC Message-ID: <1126278255.765874.233800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    David J Dachtera wrote:  > tadamsmar wrote: > > J > > Does anyone know what version of VMS is required to be able to renew a4 > > license without paying for prior version support > H > "Renew a license"? What VMS license do you have that has a time limit?  F Renew our support agreement?  The decriptions refer to licenses, but I guess it is all support.  E Can one get media and right to upgrade without HP technical unlimited  support?  1 Our yearly support agreement is running 18K/year.   G They tell me that if we drop all support and then want to do a one-shot E upgrade in the future it would cost an estimated 34K based on current  pricing.  " Are there some other alternatives?  D I think that sometime in the future we are going to need to miagrate9 from the Alphas.  Can licenses be transferred to Itanium?    >  > -- > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > + > Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: $ > http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/  > $ > Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/  >  > Coming soon:( > Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:40:05 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> " Subject: RE: Prior version supportR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB6B26EE@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----1 > From: tadamsmar [mailto:tadamsmar@yahoo.com]=20 " > Sent: September 9, 2005 11:04 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com $ > Subject: Re: Prior version support >=20 >=20 > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > tadamsmar wrote: > > > ? > > > Does anyone know what version of VMS is required to be=20  > able to renew a 6 > > > license without paying for prior version support > > A > > "Renew a license"? What VMS license do you have that has a=20 
 > time limit?  >=20H > Renew our support agreement?  The decriptions refer to licenses, but I > guess it is all support. >=20G > Can one get media and right to upgrade without HP technical unlimited 
 > support? >=203 > Our yearly support agreement is running 18K/year.  >=20A > They tell me that if we drop all support and then want to do=20  > a one-shotG > upgrade in the future it would cost an estimated 34K based on current 
 > pricing. >=20$ > Are there some other alternatives? >=20F > I think that sometime in the future we are going to need to miagrate; > from the Alphas.  Can licenses be transferred to Itanium?  >=20 > >     C Info on Alpha OpenVMS licence transfers to Integrity Servers can be 	 found at: 4 http://licensing.hp.com/swl/view.slm?page=3DxplasoftJ http://licensing.hp.com/swl/view.slm;jsessionid=3Daaaq-JnMKOYGr6m8Zm?page= =3D  swlpolicies    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 2005 04:17:25 -0700 - From: "prasad" <vvprasad.Chalumuri@gmail.com> 6 Subject: Re: SYS$QIO with Extended File SpecificationsC Message-ID: <1126264645.922234.146620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Sorry for the late response,  @ Actually there is alimitation of 1K Path names for RMS routines.  That is why I am asking for XQP.F I'm done with the RMS routines but they are working for paths up to 1k* beyond that image is crashing at RMS call.; Some one has adviced me to use XQP instead of RMS routines.    Regards 
 --VVPrasad   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 2005 14:57:05 GMT . From: JONESD@ecr6.ohio-state.edu (David Jones)6 Subject: Re: SYS$QIO with Extended File Specifications: Message-ID: <dfs7s1$dl3$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  s In article <1126264645.922234.146620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "prasad" <vvprasad.Chalumuri@gmail.com> writes:   B > Actually there is alimitation of 1K Path names for RMS routines." > That is why I am asking for XQP.H > I'm done with the RMS routines but they are working for paths up to 1k, > beyond that image is crashing at RMS call.= > Some one has adviced me to use XQP instead of RMS routines.   L Sounds like you are trying to use the file system as a database, which often0 has more complications than originally foreseen.    H Reminds me of a problem we encountered with roaming profiles on windows.O Internet explorer wants to save cookie data in a file with the name the same as M the URL and time to time creates a file on the NTFS C: drive that isn't valid K on the LANMAN share where the roaming profile lives.  The user logs off and O upload of the roaming profile back to the master location quietly fails and the @ user can't figure out why their setting changes don't propagate.      < David L. Jones               |      Phone:    (614) 271-6718- Ohio State University        |      Internet: L 140 W. 19th St.              |               jonesd@er6s1.eng.ohio-state.edu: Columbus, OH 43210           |               vman+@osu.edu  1 Disclaimer: I'm looking for marbles all day long.    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 2005 02:24:36 -0700  From: "Bendix" <br@b-riis.dk> ; Subject: Re: VAX OpenVMS 7.1 and TCP/IP 5.1 startup problem C Message-ID: <1126257876.656134.237200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Thanks for answering. E I did run the tcpip configuration (TCPIP$CONFIG.COM) on VAX #2 and it D created all the TCPIP$*.DAT files in the SYS$SYSTEM directory on VAX #2. D The funny thing is that TELNET, RLOGIN and REXEC works on VAX #2 but? not all the other services that I'm trying to enable and start. ! VAX #1 runs UCX with no problems.    Bendix   Lucy Tao skrev:   N > Does all the TCP service set up on VAX#1, I'm thinking that  you set them up0 > on VAX#1 and trying to start it up from VAX#2. >  > Let me know..  >  > * > "Bendix" <br@b-riis.dk> wrote in message? > news:1126174264.027914.287220@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...  > > Running 2 VAXen in cluster.  > > VAX #1 runs VMS v5.5-2( > > VAX #2 runs VMS v7.1 with TCPIP v5.1; > > Common SYSUAF.DAT, Rightslist.dat etc. exists on VAX #1 J > > As far as I can see all the TCPIP$.. usernames exist in the sysuaf.datJ > > When starting any tcpip services on VAX #2 I get an error like the one
 > > below. > > Can anyone help me.  > > 
 > > BendixI > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------  > > , > >        PORTMAPPER configuration options: > > 3 > >                 1 - Enable service on all nodes 3 > >                 2 - Enable service on this node  > > ; > >                 3 - Enable & Start service on this node  > > 6 > >                [E] - Exit PORTMAPPER configuration > > ! > > Enter configuration option: 3 B > > %TCPIP-I-INFO, image SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$PORTMAPPER.EXE installed: > > %TCPIP-E-STARTERROR, error starting PORTMAPPER service; > > -TCPIP-E-BADVALUE, value Service User_name is incorrect   > > -RMS-E-RNF, record not found: > > %TCPIP-E-STARTERROR, error starting PORTMAPPER service  > > -RMS-E-RNF, record not found: > > %TCPIP-E-STARTERROR, error starting PORTMAPPER service; > > -TCPIP-E-BADVALUE, value Service User_name is incorrect   > > -RMS-E-RNF, record not found: > > %TCPIP-E-STARTERROR, error starting PORTMAPPER service  > > -RMS-E-RNF, record not found8 > > %TCPIP-E-STARTFAIL, failed to start TCPIP$PORTMAPPER- > > -TCPIP-E-ENABLERR, error enabling service   > > Press Return to continue ... > >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:00:26 +02003 From: "Dr. Dweeb" <NOSPAM_5msg0h202@sneakemail.com> % Subject: Re: VAXen as a plural of VAX = Message-ID: <4321411a$0$78283$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk>    Clipped ...   I I think you should all read Steven Pinkers "The Language Instinct" where  K Vaxen is actually mentioned, as well as everything most people know, think  H they know and were totally oblivious of with respect to the spoken word.  t http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060958332/qid=1126252707/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl/202-3336233-1373439    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:09:36 +0100 - From: John Laird <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk> % Subject: Re: VAXen as a plural of VAX 8 Message-ID: <fpu2i1dvt8ehsbc21aqmc8vrbrfrcv9drn@4ax.com>  @ On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 16:28:20 -0400, norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  I >"Jim MacKenzie" <jim@dusykbarlow.sk.ca> wrote on 09/08/2005 03:58:30 PM:  >  >>2 >> "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message@ >> news:1126204228.070502.244660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> >$ >> >   Ox, Xerox -- both contain OX. >> > >> > VAX does not contain OX.  >>H >> Child -> children... ("child" formerly being "childre" in English...) >> >> Next analogy please.  >  >Are you saying:< >VAX -> VAXen... ("VAX" formerly being "VAXe" in English...) >or > >VAX -> VAXren... ("VAX" formerly being "VAXre" in English...) >  >Neither holds up AFAICS.   ; Quite.  And the plurals of fax, tax and wax are simply -es.    --  * There's a dead bishop on the landing, dad!   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 2005 07:14:34 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) % Subject: Re: VAXen as a plural of VAX 3 Message-ID: <x6YCpmnkkJp4@eisner.encompasserve.org>   j In article <1126204228.070502.244660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> writes: > . > Yikes! Consider Xeroxen as plural of Xerox.   @    You can have lots of Xerox copiers, or Xerox printers, or you.    can make lots of pages with either of them.  5    But there's only one Xerox.  No need for a plural.   H    Using Xerox to mean photocopy is slang, and you can slang up anything    you want as a slang plural.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.504 ************************                                                                                                                                decision was made to license Microsoft BASIC instead.  A > But aside from it, then it was a bland implementation of BASIC. - > At that level, there would be a similarity.p  J Not any more than you'd expect to find between any two BASIC interpreters.H The structure of the DEC and Microsoft interpreters aren't even similar.F It's not a matter of Microsoft copying DEC's general design and addingI tokenization.  There's really no common structure to them.  The Microsoft E source code doesn't reveal even the slightest bit of inspiration fromeG the BASIC-10 source code.  While it's possible that Gates and Allen hadeG access to the BASIC-10 source code, it doesn't appear that they studiedt it or used it as a model.S   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Aug 2003 18:42:00 -0700:' From: st-wong@alumni.cuhk.net (ST Wong)u< Subject: Re: pls help: install OS on DS10L without console ?< Message-ID: <28073c51.0308051741.fc19ce1@posting.google.com>  v koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote in message news:<HSMMmJQm8I+N@eisner.encompasserve.org>...i > In article <28073c51.0308050345.34eb3715@posting.google.com>, st-wong@alumni.cuhk.net (ST Wong) writes:k > > Hi, all, > > H > > I've 4 old DS10L without console.  They're connected to an DECserverE > > 90M.  Although i can access the DECserver using a terminal, but IWG > > can't access the console of those DS10L through the DECserver 90M. i- > > Here comes some commands output I tried :  > B >    The easiest way is to temporarily plug your terminal into theA >    OPA0 serial port of the DS10L instead of into the DECserver.r > E >    It's also possible to establish a connection by running a serialEH >    line from the serial port of the DS10L to the DECserver, but that's, >    most likely an unecessary complication.  E Thanks, but too bad is that the terminal is not available now.  Now I0F use the COM port of another Alpha machine running RedHat to access the
 DECserver.  
 Thanks again.: /STt   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:14:17 -0500% From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com>n< Subject: Re: pls help: install OS on DS10L without console ?; Message-ID: <vl_Xa.77620$6a3.2243509@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>0  J Is the DECSERVER setup for telnet listener service?  If so, then you wouldK just telnet to the IP and port that you want to access the console on, justaL like you access the terminal sever itself.  If the IP of the terminal serverL was 90.0.0.1,  and you wanted to get to the console on port1, then you wouldH telnet to 90.0.0