1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 12 Sep 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 509       Contents:1 Re: file protection weirdness with apache and PHP 1 Re: file protection weirdness with apache and PHP 9 Re: Former Intel chief architect (P4) shoots from the hip 9 Re: Former Intel chief architect (P4) shoots from the hip  Personal Thoughts on Sept 11( Re: Postings (was Re: HP Forum location)( Re: Postings (was Re: HP Forum location) Re: TCPIP: DNS lookup timeouts Re: TCPIP: DNS lookup timeouts Re: TCPIP: DNS lookup timeouts+ Re: TCPIP: which device name to assign to ? + Re: Wget 1.10.1a (less preliminary) exists. + Re: Wget 1.10.1a (less preliminary) exists.   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:46:15 +0100 # From: issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> : Subject: Re: file protection weirdness with apache and PHP4 Message-ID: <dg252p$ak6$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>   Wayne Sewell wrote: + >>From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn@gmail.com>  >>X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms < >>Subject: Re: file protection weirdness with apache and PHP" >>Date: 10 Sep 2005 19:57:56 -0700( >>Organization: http://groups.google.com >  >  > & >>wayne@tachysoft.com wrote (in part): >>P >>>The problem appears to be file protection.  Sometimes I get an actual message: >>>saying I can't don't have privilege to access the file. >>> 
 >>>	Forbidden  >>> E >>>	You don't have permission to acces /tutos/php/mytutos.php on this  >>>	server.  >>> I >>>	Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encounted while trying to use + >>>	an ErrorDocument to handle the request.  >>> = >>>	Apache/2.0.47 (OpenVMS) PHP/4.3.2 Server at ... Port 8092  >>>  >>I >>You can put an ACL on the files and directories that you want Apache to ; >>access giving the identifier apache$www read and execute.  >> >  >  > ( > The files already have acls on them.   > E > user_new.php;1       [AP_HTTPD,APACHE$WWW]            (RWED,RWED,,) E >           (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:,WORLD:) 8 >           (IDENTIFIER=APACHE$READ,ACCESS=READ+EXECUTE)H >           (IDENTIFIER=APACHE$READ,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+EXECUTE) >  > 5 > The apache account has been granted the identifier:  > % > FATTY> mcr authorize sho apache$www  > A > Username: APACHE$WWW                       Owner:  WAYNE SEWELL = > Account:  AP_HTTPD                         UIC:    [200,34]  > ([AP_HTTPD,APACHE$WW > W]) > > CLI:      DCL                              Tables: DCLTABLES  > Default:  APACHE$ROOT:[000000] > LGICMD:   LOGIN . > Flags:  LockPwd DisNewMail DisMail DisReport% > Primary days:   Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri - > Secondary days:                     Sat Sun H > Primary   000000000011111111112222  Secondary 000000000011111111112222H > Day Hours 012345678901234567890123  Day Hours 012345678901234567890123H > Network:  ##### Full access ######            ##### Full access ######H > Batch:    -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------H > Local:    -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------H > Dialup:   -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------H > Remote:   -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------F > Expiration:            (none)    Pwdminimum:  6   Login Fails:     0@ > Pwdlifetime:         90 00:00    Pwdchange:      (pre-expired)@ > Last Login:            (none) (interactive), 11-SEP-2005 09:32 > (non-interactive) ; > Maxjobs:         0  Fillm:       700  Bytlm:       250000 ; > Maxacctjobs:     0  Shrfillm:      0  Pbytlm:           0 ; > Maxdetach:       0  BIOlm:       300  JTquota:       4096 ; > Prclm:          20  DIOlm:       300  WSdef:        15000 ; > Prio:            4  ASTlm:       610  WSquo:        50000 ; > Queprio:         0  TQElm:       610  WSextent:     50000 ; > CPU:        (none)  Enqlm:      2000  Pgflquo:     250000  > Authorized Privileges: >   NETMBX       TMPMBX  > Default Privileges:  >   NETMBX       TMPMBX ? > Identifier                         Value           Attributes / >   APACHE$APR_ALL                   %X80010057 / >   APACHE$READ                      %X8001005E / >   APACHE$EXECUTE                   %X8001005F / >   APACHE$WRITE                     %X80010060  > FATTY> >  > O > As I said before, simple file protection issues cannot explain this problem.  M > The failures change over time.  I can access a page normally and then get a L > failure on the same page five seconds later.  Or vice versa.  When I get aO > failure, I can often just wait a few seconds and do a refresh.  The page then  > comes up normally. > Q > The protection (including acls) on the files is not changing, nor is the apache  > account in the uaf.  > M > The behavior indicates that apache is changing uics dynamically or screwing N > with its identifiers dynamically.  But without suexec, I didn't think it was > supposed to do that. >  > Wayne Q > =============================================================================== P > Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com= > http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    Q > =============================================================================== R > Jake Blues:"You traded the Caddy for a microphone? ...... Okay, I can buy that."   Wayne,  @ I haven't seen this strange behavious you are describing. In my D experience once you get the platform stable (there are a few golden B rules) and a compliant PHP application (VMS is a very unforgiving H platform for sloppy PHP coding) then everything runs well and is nice &  stable.    My advice would be, H (a) install a PHP app that is known to work well, I suggest phpMyAdmin. < This well let you know whether your platform is set up well.G (b) have a browse round the VAMP board for advice from others who have  9 trodden this path. (http://www.issinoho.com:8080/phpbb2/)    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:19:45 -0500 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>: Subject: Re: file protection weirdness with apache and PHP/ Message-ID: <00A49AB8.2436E275.1@tachysoft.com>   $ >From: issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms; >Subject: Re: file protection weirdness with apache and PHP & >Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:46:15 +0100 >Lines: 117 5 >Message-ID: <dg252p$ak6$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>  >MIME-Version: 1.0< >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >  >Wayne Sewell wrote:  + [description of apache/php problem deleted]    > A >I haven't seen this strange behavious you are describing. In my  E >experience once you get the platform stable (there are a few golden  C >rules) and a compliant PHP application (VMS is a very unforgiving  I >platform for sloppy PHP coding) then everything runs well and is nice &   >stable. >     O The situation apparently resolved itself.  I haven't had a protection error for O hours.  What changed was that I moved /htdocs out of the apache tree and into a O top level directory by itself.  I really didn't do this to fix the problem, but I to make it easier to try WASD, as someone else suggested.  But I tried to M continue running under apache first, because it would take time to come up to I speed on WASD.  After setting up the standalone directory, apache started J working with those applications.  I think the difference is that I set theN apache identifier on the top level document directory as well as [.htdocs...].K The directory containing the apache root ([compaq_apache]) doesn't have the F identifer, as the apache configuration didn't set it on its containingL directory.  I didn't install apache on the system disk, so this may have hadF something to do with it.  However, I don't think the regular location L ([sys0.syscommon] or wherever it goes) would have had the identifier either.  K So I don't know why everything is working now, but I'm going to take it and  run.     >My advice would be,I >(a) install a PHP app that is known to work well, I suggest phpMyAdmin.  = >This well let you know whether your platform is set up well.   A I went ahead and downloaded this because it sounds useful anyway.   H >(b) have a browse round the VAMP board for advice from others who have : >trodden this path. (http://www.issinoho.com:8080/phpbb2/)  M Thanks for the link.  It would be useful to talk to other people running this  stuff.   Wayne O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== P Jake Blues:"You traded the Caddy for a microphone? ...... Okay, I can buy that."   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:01:31 -0400 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> B Subject: Re: Former Intel chief architect (P4) shoots from the hip7 Message-ID: <sW0Ve.851$1G4.69649@news20.bellglobal.com>   M You guys have got to check out this Bob Colwell article from the IEEE titled  # "What's the Worst That Can Happen?"   L Several paragraphs into the article he describes a true story about an EagleL Scout who comes very close to building a breeder reactor in the potting shed of his parent's house.   http://www.computer.org/portal/site/computer/menuitem.e2282b69e5062e4b0ef1bd108bcd45f3/index.jsp?&pName=computer_level1_article_list&TheCat=1010&   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.! http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:54:49 -0400 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>B Subject: Re: Former Intel chief architect (P4) shoots from the hip= Message-ID: <MOGdnYwVNe9zQrneRVn-qg@metrocastcablevision.com>    Neil Rieck wrote: O > You guys have got to check out this Bob Colwell article from the IEEE titled  % > "What's the Worst That Can Happen?"  > N > Several paragraphs into the article he describes a true story about an EagleN > Scout who comes very close to building a breeder reactor in the potting shed > of his parent's house. >  > http://www.computer.org/portal/site/computer/menuitem.e2282b69e5062e4b0ef1bd108bcd45f3/index.jsp?&pName=computer_level1_article_list&TheCat=1010&   I Neat!  Colwell is a good story-teller as well as an impressive engineer.  G   For more of the latter, see "Brainstorming, Influence, and Icebergs"  F near the bottom of the list (reminds me of some of the best and worst G aspects of 1980s DEC), and the great comments about "Design Fragility"   at the bottom.  I For some reason Firefox wouldn't play the Stanford presentation that you  A first posted.  Since others apparently weren't having difficulty  I accessing it, I fired up my dormant (but patched up to date) copy of IE,  E and voila (well, for values of 'voila' that yield a minuscule screen  G size, anyway).  But the process of trying to make Firefox play it made  F me wonder:  the .asx URL leads to a small file containing a .wmv URL, I which leads to another small file containing two .wmv URLs (with a small  F appendage), which leads to itself - and yet while Firefox claims it's 0 unable to find the server, IE manages just fine.  D There's clearly some direct route to the presentation (via which it G could probably be saved as well), but I couldn't find it with a couple  8 of minutes' worth of effort.  Anyone happen to know how?   - bill   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Sep 2005 15:03:31 -0700! From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com % Subject: Personal Thoughts on Sept 11 C Message-ID: <1126476211.712286.120700@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Dear Newsgroup,   G It is Sept 11, and I am reminded once of again of how much you all mean B to me.  Family is much more than a right of birth or nation.  I amF truly honored and privileged to know so many of you and every day I amE impressed the wonderful qualities of kindness and caring you display. F In the last week these qualities have been very evident by your offersF to help the victims of the hurricane.  So much so that the HP AmericasC Emergency Response Planning has requested that I send all the email D directly to them. You are a wonderful and caring community and MAYBEF because we have had to work hard and MAYBE because we have had to workB hard together as a team we have come out on top of so many things.? Sept 11 is a sad day in history, but a good day to remember the ( wonderful people we know and appreciate.  E Thank you for being the people you are and thank you for enriching my  life everyday.  
 Warm Regards,  Sue       % My daughter wrote the following poem.   
   Cold Rain -  Rain falls on a street, # It is devoid of life save one girl,  Walking alone, Wearing black, Her head hung in defeat,A And if for some reason she were to look up from her slow plodding B along, You would see, That her eyes, Have become dark and cold andG lifeless, You would see the hidden tears, As she remembers how she used D to be, Happy, And as finally she would remember how there used to beE hope, You might see a single tear fall down her soft pale cheek, Then G you would notice her eyes dim slightly, As she recalled how she used to D play along this very street with the people she once called friends,F She remembers when once there were flowers, Bright and beautiful alongG this road, But now it is nothing, The sky is dark, there is no sun, The 9 plants are dead, The children gone, The people have left,  Now do you see?  Life takes one on many a twist, * And throws a person against various walls, And yet we go on,  The girl isn't defeated, She isn't lost,  And while all that remains,  Is the cold rain,  Here she will stay, . Because one day the clouds are bound to break,& And her friends will come out to play, The sun will shine,  The flowers will bloom,  And things will go back, The way they should.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:27:39 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>1 Subject: Re: Postings (was Re: HP Forum location) + Message-ID: <4324A14B.B95836A6@comcast.net>    Ken Robinson wrote:  > " > Bill Gunshannon wrote (in part):7 > > > If you have web access, you can use Google Groups 3 > > > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/>  > > - > > I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy!!!  > D > Why not? If you have no other way to access the newsgroups, it's aI > perfectly usable interface, as long as you take the time to learn about 
 > its quirks.  > I > When Google Groups2 first came out,it was very unusable and filled with 4 > bugs, but Google has improved the product greatly. > ; > The biggest beef I have is the two ways to enter a reply.  > G > The first, with the reply link at the bottom of the post is the wrong H > one to use, since it doesn't quote the original artical and looses all
 > trferences.  > H > The second way, visible after one clicks "More Options" is the correct7 > one to use, since it does quote and referencing fine.  > * > The long times to post are history also.  @ The biggest beef I have is the requirement to use a valid e-mailD address. I'm still reaping spam from the last times I posted at work using my Earthlink address.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Sep 2005 20:12:51 -0700$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>1 Subject: Re: Postings (was Re: HP Forum location) C Message-ID: <1126494771.544896.245310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Ken Robinson wrote: " > Bill Gunshannon wrote (in part):7 > > > If you have web access, you can use Google Groups 3 > > > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/>  > > - > > I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy!!!  > D > Why not? If you have no other way to access the newsgroups, it's aI > perfectly usable interface, as long as you take the time to learn about 
 > its quirks.  > I > When Google Groups2 first came out,it was very unusable and filled with 4 > bugs, but Google has improved the product greatly. > ; > The biggest beef I have is the two ways to enter a reply.  > G > The first, with the reply link at the bottom of the post is the wrong H > one to use, since it doesn't quote the original artical and looses all
 > trferences.  > H > The second way, visible after one clicks "More Options" is the correct7 > one to use, since it does quote and referencing fine.  > * > The long times to post are history also. >  > Ken ) > BTW, this was posted via Google Group2.   E I agree that the new beta Google groups (group2?) is much better than B when it first came out, but it's still bad in many ways. Here's my" re-updated scorecard (you asked!):  @ I sent the following to Goggle and add some up-to-date comments:   >From 2005/04/01:   & Favoring the new "Google beta groups":   o Faster post udpates [updates] > o Have to click "read the rest of the message" much less oftenC o No time wasted with having to click "See this message in context"  linkF o Mail addresses hidden from spammers (admittedly this is good and bad either way)   D [OK, now you can get the email address using the human-readable-only2 type-in after clicking ... . When was this added?]  G o Times of last post given on thread listing page (but time zone is not 	 given!!!)   F [ OK, I live in the US Eastern Time Zone and the times are now in thatB time zone ! But I came across at least one case in which a message7 arrived from the future. See (sorry about any url-wrap)   D [[ I saw another post from the future since. Why is time such a hard thing for Google? ]]   http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_frm/thread/36912eb7f8ee7779/5df4f664c4ab086b?lnk=st&q=future+group:comp.os.vms+author:aef&rnum=4&hl=en#5df4f664c4ab086b   E (But I recently looked at sci.math and the times were in some mystery ? time zone or perhaps just a few more messages from the future.)   C Why don't they just use UTC time in yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss format like F they used to? Before they "fixed" it they called it the time, or local> time, or something stupid and it was in Palo Alto time (PT). IF previously sent them a message telling them that some of us don't liveE in the Pacific Time Zone and that UTC was more appropriate in 24-hour % format, not the pesky am/pm format. ]   ! Favoring the old "Google groups":   E o Dates in msg. headers were in yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss time-zone format, D incl. 24-hour time! (Not this wimpy am/pm nonsesnse.) [Although theyF were labeled as PST even though it was really PDT when daylight saving time was in effect.] o Fonts ( o Format of all pages, all views, better  E (Well, I do like not having to click for a new page as often with the  new format.)   o Visual esthetics  3 [[ This is still much better in the old version. ]]   2 o Banners containing useful info separate messagesE o Said useful info includes From, Subject, Newsgroups list, Date (and  time; -- with time zone!, albeit incorrect when DST is in effect)   C [Yes, you can get these by clicking, but you have to do it for each  one!]   ( o Message number in banner of message!!!  , [OK, they finally added this just recently.]  C o "Post a follow-up to this message" link at bottom of each message   > [OK, they now have this but it doesn't quote the old message.]  E o Home page lists alt, biz, comp, etc. In the new way there is no way  you F could go from comp to comp.os. to comp.os.vms the way you can with the old G groups groups page. You have to know at least the comp.os part first in  the beta groups. o List of threads page neater = o Useful | and \ and - symbols outlining thread trees on left ? o Prev m and Next n links at top and bottom of page of messages   B [Finally this is back, but slightly uglier, at least on my setup.]  E o Can read mail addresses when I need to (admittedly this is good and  bad  either way)   # [see comment in old format section]   B o More room for messages increasing chances that an 80-column-wide output will fit without wrapping.  1 [[ Actually this always seems to be a problem. ]]   D o No "hide quoted text" errors. Often, in the beta groups, a word is7 subsumed into quoted text when it is part of the reply.   F [[ Quote hiding is still buggy. Sometimes the post is entirely hidden! ]]  D o No stupid warm and fuzzy stars wasting screen area. (What is this, kindergarten? |:-)   Bad about both: C o After postiing, "Click here to continue" still takes you to pages  where E you can't function. You often get the messages with no links to go to  the A next set of messages and no link back to comp.os.vms thread list.  What's? the deal with this? In one case I ended up with two tree panes!   A [[ This seems to work better now, but I rarely use it for fear of   ending up on a dead-end page. ]]    , p.s. The box to input this is WAY TOO SMALL!   2005/07/30:   F Also, when you click on a thread, you have to hit F6 four times to get2 the focus to the articles box. (I hate the mouse.)  G If we're lucky, they'll keep fixing it until it has all the good points G of the old format, in which case -- actually in any case -- they should D have never come up with the new format and just simply added the few2 good features of the new format to the old format.  C As for me, I've finally gotten used to the new format and just live 5 with it. I still don't like it, but what ya gonna do?    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:26:43 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>' Subject: Re: TCPIP: DNS lookup timeouts = Message-ID: <T23Ve.22105$k22.11481@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>    JF Mezei wrote: H > My WHOIS utility sometimes fails to translate a hostname to IP addressH > the first time, and succeeds on a subsequent call.  (this is on a slow > vax). This is sporadic.   G Some of the millions of virus infested zombie PCs on the net appear to  C be DNS spoofers. They bombard hosts with fake DNS responses on the  C assumption that they will occasionally respond (UDP) to a real DNS  E lookup before the actual name server. The attempt is, I presume,  to  F lure you to a web-bombed page which triggers a browser bug installing C the virus. On broadband I see quite a number per hour in logs from  H zombies but mostly they will go unnoticed unless you are doing a lot of F DNS lookups with a vulnerable client I guess. Now I have no idea what E happens with a reverse lookup but with an older client (VAX TCPIP)it  G wouldn't surprise me if it causes some kind of transient failure if it  3 gets a response it didn't expect. Just a thought...     D > The code does a simple SYS$QIOW with the right codes/parameters to) > translate a host name to an IP address.  > C > I've added the status codes from the QIO to the error message, so A > hopefully next time it hapens, I may have a clue on why this is C > happening. (Could had used it to night since it was steadfastedly G > refusing to translate whois.cymru.com for a few minutes, I went to do > > something else and then tried again and this time it worked. > I > When doing the QIOW to translate name to IP, it returns within a second  > with the error.  > I > If it were my name server which was slow, and $TCPIP SHOW NAME tells me J > the timeout is 4 seconds, shoudln't $QIOW wait at least 4 seconds before
 > returning ?  >  > H > Or does the QIOW interface not work properly and I should be using QIO( > with a wait for event flag to be set ?   --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:41:08 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>' Subject: Re: TCPIP: DNS lookup timeouts = Message-ID: <og3Ve.22252$k22.19129@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>    Alan Greig wrote:    > H > DNS lookups with a vulnerable client I guess. Now I have no idea what G > happens with a reverse lookup but with an older client (VAX TCPIP)it    H Ignore the reverse lookup - misread your post - but the same applies of G course to forward lookup. Do you tend to see transient failures in DNS  & lookups generally or just in your app?     --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:14:16 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ' Subject: Re: TCPIP: DNS lookup timeouts , Message-ID: <4324C855.606660CA@teksavvy.com>   Alan Greig wrote: I > Ignore the reverse lookup - misread your post - but the same applies of H > course to forward lookup. Do you tend to see transient failures in DNS( > lookups generally or just in your app?  E I don't notice failures on other apps or clients that use that vax as F DNS server. Only the WHOIS client which uses the $QIO interface. Also,H another application I have will fail with DNS lookup when it is started,H but on second attempt, succeeds (but this is one which runs all the time& in background so I don't notice this).  D I figured that if I passed the wrong arguments, (eg: code error), itE would fail all the time. If I failed to initialised some buffer to 0, A re-invoking the application with the exact same parameters should  reproduce the same behaviour.   E Next time it happens, I should have both the status from the $QIOW as A well as the status of the IOSB. Maybe that will let me know more.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:32:20 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>4 Subject: Re: TCPIP: which device name to assign to ?+ Message-ID: <4324A263.3C5C83DD@comcast.net>    JF Mezei wrote:  > H > When using a $QIO interface, the TCPIP Services manuals tell me to use8 > "TCPIP$DEVICE"  as device name to assign a channel to. > H > Is this a standard name across all TCPIP stacks that run on VMS, or is > there a better name ?   C This is actually unique to UCX (and successor(s)), but is or may be + provided by others for full compatibility).   D IMO: Technically, it's an obsolete concept since any system can haveH multiple network interfaces without being a routing node. So, UCX$DEVICEB and/or TCPIP$DEVICE may or may not be the correct device to use by default, depending.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:09:19 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 4 Subject: Re: Wget 1.10.1a (less preliminary) exists.( Message-ID: <opswyy1tn6zgicya@hyrrokkin>  = On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:20:32 -0500 (CDT), Steven M. Schweda    <sms@antinode.org> wrote:   C >  That's as much as (or more than) I know about a minimum compiler 
 > version.I >   Let me know if anything explodes when you suck down a 5GB (or larger) I > file from a Web server somewhere.  (It worked for me with FTP, so, as I # > always say, what could go wrong?)   / It worked fine, and I am pleased and thank you.  Tom    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:34:59 -0500 (CDT) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)4 Subject: Re: Wget 1.10.1a (less preliminary) exists.2 Message-ID: <05091122345920_2020039B@antinode.org>  # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>   K > >   Let me know if anything explodes when you suck down a 5GB (or larger) K > > file from a Web server somewhere.  (It worked for me with FTP, so, as I % > > always say, what could go wrong?)  > 1 > It worked fine, and I am pleased and thank you.   G    Thank you for the report.  As for it working properly, I'm sure that G thorough testing would reveal more problems.  Don't give up too easily.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.509 ************************