1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 05 Apr 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 189       Contents:& Re: Advanced Server, HP CIFS questions& Re: Advanced Server, HP CIFS questionsP announcement:Announcing HP DECforms Version 4.0 for OpenVMS on HP Integrity serv
 Console Cable  Re: Console Cable  Re: Console Cable  Re: Console Cable  Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ? Re: RMS With C++. Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign. Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign. Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign. Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign. Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign* Re: TCPIP+LinkSys+Win2K+OpenVMS AdventuresG Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ? G Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ? G Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ? G Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ? G Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ? G Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 5 Apr 2006 11:19:27 +0100 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)/ Subject: Re: Advanced Server, HP CIFS questions , Message-ID: <4433a7bf$1@news.langstoeger.at>  ] In article <1144185722.318963.234740@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, mabbuttg@yahoo.ca writes: D >In an effort to make things more seamless, we're considering addingD >Advanced Server or the upcoming HP CIFS (SAMBA port) product to our >mix.   I If you do it now (or if you have an older VMS version in use) use ASOVMS. G If you can wait a bit (or want to run on I64) use CIFS. CIFS/SAMBA will E replace ASOVMS. So you might forget ASOVMS if you have enough time...   H >Primarily this would be to eliminate (or greatly reduce) the use of FTPG >clients by our Windows users who also have VMS accounts when they want E >to transfer files from their VMS home directories, such as by simply / >mapping a drive and dragging/dropping instead.   E But then again, other problems (like eg. locked files cause of ASOVMS D caching the files and keep them open for a couple of seconds, or eg.K other filename mapping rules if not on ODS5 FTP vs. ASOVMS, ...) may arise. ' Don't be surprised and test, test, test   H >I've taken a cursory look through the Advanced Server docs, but I still >have a few questions:  / Only a few? So haven't really dived into yet;-)   @ >- our Windows environment uses Active Directory 2003/2000 - can3 >Advanced Server authenticate against that at all?     Yes.  E >                                                    The docs on HP's 6 >site still talk about PDCs and BDCs and NT 4 domains.  G ASOVMS is basically a port of M$ NT 3.51 (first ported to U**X by AT&T, F then ported to Digital UNIX by DEC, then ported) to VMS with additionsJ of NT4. So all restrictions of NT4 in an AD do apply to ASOVMS (and CIFS -J the next CIFS based on SAMBA V4 in 2009 is said to be fully AD compliant).  D Advanced Server (the name is from AT&T) for OpenVMS is the successorF to PATHWORKS which is the successor to PCSA (which is the successor toI DECnet-DOS). PCSA was V3&V4, PATHWORKS V5&V6, ASOVMS is V7. So, the right E USENET group is therefor named news:vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks K but COV is very ok as well (while the pathworks groups gets a lot of spam).   H >- the Advanced Server docs mention "external authentication" - not sureD >what this entails for Active Directory exactly, but am I correct inF >assuming you can (or have to) associate individual VMS usernames with >Active Directory ones?   D Yes. You can authenticate VMS users to AD. Means you have to have anD account in SYSUAF (for VMS privileges, VMS defaults, VMS limits) andD an equally named (or explicitely mapped $ ADMIN ADD HOSTMAP) accountG (for the single password - and the LanMan rights) and a relation (trust D or fully qualified resource names) between the ASOVMS and the M$ AD.   B >- Given the above (and degree of difficulty with current AdvancedF >Server), would it be to our advantage to wait for HP CIFS (on Alpha)? >  >We're running OpenVMS 7.3-1.   F I don't expect CIFS to run on V7.3-1 as V7.3-1 is no longer supported.C Even V7.3-2 may become unsupported (due to V8.3 coming out) - means G becoming only PVS - before CIFS has production quality (esp. on Alpha). D So, if you can't upgrade to VMS V8.2 soon, your bet is still ASOVMS.   HIH    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Apr 2006 11:27:47 +0100 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)/ Subject: Re: Advanced Server, HP CIFS questions , Message-ID: <4433a9b3$1@news.langstoeger.at>  [ In article <4HBYf.5829$u27.5663@news.cpqcorp.net>, "PEN" <paul.nunez.nosp@m.hp.com> writes: c ><mabbuttg@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:1144185722.318963.234740@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... F >> In an effort to make things more seamless, we're considering addingF >> Advanced Server or the upcoming HP CIFS (SAMBA port) product to our >> mix.  > K >Absolutely.  It can be a Member server in an native mode Active Directory  I >domain and it will use the AD domain controllers to authenticate domain  K >users.  In essence, Advanced Server for OpenVMS is equivalent to an NT v4   >file/print server.     H But not exactly. eg. you can't have your (foreign) printer drivers on anG PATHWORKS or ASOVMS system (as you can with an NT4 system). You need to K install them locally on all your clients (as you did at the NT 3.51 times).    just my 0.02   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Apr 2006 10:35:43 -0700 ) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> Y Subject: announcement:Announcing HP DECforms Version 4.0 for OpenVMS on HP Integrity serv C Message-ID: <1144258543.850669.210280@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   : The following is an announcement from OpenVMS Engineering.  
 Warm Regards,  Sue   ; ___________________________________________________________   F Announcing HP DECforms Version 4.0 for OpenVMS on HP Integrity servers and AlphaServer systems.  A HP DECforms V4.0 for OpenVMS HP Integrity servers and AlphaServer E systems are available today from the Q1 2006 OpenVMS software product @ library. DECforms is used to develop and deploy forms-based userC interfaces for interactive applications running on OpenVMS systems. F DECforms V4.0 is the first product release for OpenVMS on HP Integrity servers.     DECforms web site:8 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/commercial/decforms/index.html  ! DECforms technical documentation: + http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/decforms.html   + Rick McLaughlin, DECforms Business Manager,    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 08:52:41 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Console Cable) Message-ID: <op.s7jk13uozgicya@hyrrokkin>   D The Console Cable I use on my Alphas is a standard Null Modem cable, which has the following pinouts             PC DB9 Console Cable       1	DCD Data Carrier Detect		4     2	RXD Receive Data		3    3	TXD Transmit Data		2 "    4	DTR Data Terminal Ready		1, 6
    5	GND				5     6	DSR Data Set Ready		4    7	RTS Request To Send		8     8	CTS Clear To Send		7 !    9	RI Ring Indicator (not used)   ; Are all those signals needed by VMS?  Can some be combined? + I would like to get it to an RJ11 (6 wires)    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Apr 2006 16:05:16 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: Console Cable+ Message-ID: <49i85sFoltsrU1@individual.net>   ) In article <op.s7jk13uozgicya@hyrrokkin>, & 	"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:F > The Console Cable I use on my Alphas is a standard Null Modem cable,! > which has the following pinouts  >  >  >        PC DB9 Console Cable  > ! >    1	DCD Data Carrier Detect		4  >    2	RXD Receive Data		3 >    3	TXD Transmit Data		2 $ >    4	DTR Data Terminal Ready		1, 6 >    5	GND				5  >    6	DSR Data Set Ready		4 >    7	RTS Request To Send		8  >    8	CTS Clear To Send		7 # >    9	RI Ring Indicator (not used)  > = > Are all those signals needed by VMS?  Can some be combined? - > I would like to get it to an RJ11 (6 wires)    I Well, being as MMJ (DECconnect) is only 6, I would imagine that's enough. 8 I would bet MMJ pinout and descriptions are in the FAQ.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:13:09 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: Console Cable) Message-ID: <op.s7jlz7iyzgicya@hyrrokkin>   H On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:05:16 -0700, Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu>   wrote:  + > In article <op.s7jk13uozgicya@hyrrokkin>, ( > 	"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:G >> The Console Cable I use on my Alphas is a standard Null Modem cable, " >> which has the following pinouts >> >> >>        PC DB9 Console Cable >>" >>    1	DCD Data Carrier Detect		4 >>    2	RXD Receive Data		3  >>    3	TXD Transmit Data		2% >>    4	DTR Data Terminal Ready		1, 6  >>    5	GND				5 >>    6	DSR Data Set Ready		4  >>    7	RTS Request To Send		8 >>    8	CTS Clear To Send		7$ >>    9	RI Ring Indicator (not used) >>> >> Are all those signals needed by VMS?  Can some be combined?. >> I would like to get it to an RJ11 (6 wires)K > Well, being as MMJ (DECconnect) is only 6, I would imagine that's enough. 9 > I would bet MMJ pinout and descriptions are in the FAQ.   ; MMJ uses differential drivers, they are on StanQ's web site  >  > bill >    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Apr 2006 16:29:24 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: Console Cable+ Message-ID: <49i9j4Foc9r2U1@individual.net>   ) In article <op.s7jlz7iyzgicya@hyrrokkin>, & 	"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:J > On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:05:16 -0700, Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu>   > wrote: > , >> In article <op.s7jk13uozgicya@hyrrokkin>,) >> 	"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: H >>> The Console Cable I use on my Alphas is a standard Null Modem cable,# >>> which has the following pinouts  >>>  >>>  >>>        PC DB9 Console Cable  >>> # >>>    1	DCD Data Carrier Detect		4  >>>    2	RXD Receive Data		3 >>>    3	TXD Transmit Data		2 & >>>    4	DTR Data Terminal Ready		1, 6 >>>    5	GND				5  >>>    6	DSR Data Set Ready		4 >>>    7	RTS Request To Send		8  >>>    8	CTS Clear To Send		7 % >>>    9	RI Ring Indicator (not used)  >>> ? >>> Are all those signals needed by VMS?  Can some be combined? / >>> I would like to get it to an RJ11 (6 wires) L >> Well, being as MMJ (DECconnect) is only 6, I would imagine that's enough.: >> I would bet MMJ pinout and descriptions are in the FAQ. > = > MMJ uses differential drivers, they are on StanQ's web site   M I use MMJ to RS232 on my PDP's, my VAXen and my AS2100.  I know it's supposed M to be differential, but it seems all of DEC's RS232's found all the necessary J signals there.  And, that's really only 5 wires as two of them are ground,   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:11:29 GMT 7 From: John Malmberg <malmberg@dskwld.zko.hp.compaq.dec> ' Subject: Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ? 2 Message-ID: <leQYf.5869$up7.5089@news.cpqcorp.net>   JOUKJ wrote: > F > hmm... you seem to get better results then me. Did you do something G > special? All png-tests fail on my machine and the X11-tests need the   > Xrender-extention   D A search of google reveals that this package includes a client side E implementation of the Xrender extension for X-11 servers that do not   have it.   http://www.fvwm.org/authors/  A I have not found a separate source for this code or if it can be    separated into it's own library.  E It appears that while the Cairo package does not require the Xrender  B extension, it will not display anything with out it and the PANGO E library as part of GTK+ is depending on Cairo doing the X-11 display.    -John ! malmberg@dskwld.zko.hp.compaq.dec  Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:18:11 -0500' From: "Earl Lakia" <elakia@hotmail.com>  Subject: Re: RMS With C++ : Message-ID: <jJWdndrpo-IUXq7ZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@comcast.com>  D Simply delete the reference to bflib.h, it will compile without this: header file.  It was only needed when testing the routine.   However, some prototypes.....     < /*  Key Filed access routines see file: KeyedFileAccess.c */   int OpenKeyedFile(                void **KeyFileHdl,               char *FileName,                char AccessMode,               int KeySize,               int KeyOfRef,                char Method);      int ReadKeyedFile(               void *KeyFileHdl,                short How,               void *Key,               void *Record,                int  RecSize);   int WriteKeyedFile(                void *KeyFileHdl,                void *Record,                int  RecSize);  # int DeleteRecord(void *KeyFileHdl); # int UpdateRecord(void *KeyFileHdl); $ int ReleaseRecord(void *KeyFileHdl);% int CloseKeyedFile(void *KeyFileHdl); = void ChangeRefKey(void *KeyFileHdl,int KeyOfRef,int KeySize); 7 void RecordRFA(void *KeyFileHdl, unsigned short RFA[]);   1 struct dsc$descriptor_s * make_descp (char * str, -   int size, struct dsc$descriptor_s * descp);       4 "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> wrote in message3 news:hO0Xf.2821$m35.208754@news20.bellglobal.com...  > 4 > "Earl Lakia" <elakia@hotmail.com> wrote in message, > news:wPadndeYhPuhp7HZRVn-tA@comcast.com...E > >I have some standard C routines I use to do RMS File I/O.  You can < > > go to ftp.ipact.com  (anonymous) and get  the following: > >  > > keyedfileaccess.c  > > ? > > These are for keyed record I/O and the like (Supports keyed   > > read/write and also by RFA.) > > C > > Normal sequential I/O is already part of the C/C++ environment.  > > 	 > > -earl  > > - > Where do we download "bf_include:bflib.h" ?  >  > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > Ontario, Canada.: > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html >  >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:31:35 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.com7 Subject: Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign Q Message-ID: <OFF28AF63B.23336481-ON85257147.00595FBF-85257147.005AC841@metso.com>   H JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote on 04/04/2006 07:23:40 PM:   > norm.raphael@metso.com wrote: # > > $ DEFINE/SYSTEM BRK20 = WORP055  > ) > > I would have expected a syntax error.  > > Is this expected behavior? > I > I used to expect the syntax error. I've been bitten by this many times. I > Some VMS engineers probably decided to toy with the users and code this  > not-so-expected behaviour....  >   > $define test hello how are you > * > generates a "too many parameters" error. > H > I suspect the "=" sign has special significance within DCL. However, I > would expect DCL to parse  >  > $A = "hello world" > F > with the = sign triggering special handling because it is the second > token in the line. > F > but $define test = "hello world", the = sign is the 3rd token in the > line.   C None of which begins to explain why the equal sign (the third token F in the line) gets appended to the logical-name-value (the second tokenD in the line) or why the intervening space (the token delimiter) gets8 ignored (eliminated, deleted, swallowed up, lost, etc.).  F What is the explaination of this?  Was it always the case? Is it still+ the case (I am on V7.2VAX and V7.3-1Alpha)?    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:01:41 -0400) From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn@gmail.com> 7 Subject: Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign H Message-ID: <7dd80f60604051001u247dc01ev41d7d69954691125@mail.gmail.com>  A On 4/5/06, norm.raphael@metso.com <norm.raphael@metso.com> wrote:  >  > J > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote on 04/04/2006 07:23:40 PM: > ! > > norm.raphael@metso.com wrote: ' > > > $ DEFINE/SYSTEM BRK20 =3D WORP055  > > + > > > I would have expected a syntax error.   > > > Is this expected behavior? > > E > None of which begins to explain why the equal sign (the third token H > in the line) gets appended to the logical-name-value (the second tokenF > in the line) or why the intervening space (the token delimiter) gets: > ignored (eliminated, deleted, swallowed up, lost, etc.). > H > What is the explaination of this?  Was it always the case? Is it still- > the case (I am on V7.2VAX and V7.3-1Alpha)?   = With a little trial and error I discovered that the following  characters do the same thing: 	 # > ? ] ^   F Now if anyone can figure out how these characters are related, perhaps2 the solution to this mystery will become apparent.   Ken    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:00:58 -0400 % From: BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net> 7 Subject: Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign * Message-ID: <4433F7CA.3060108@comcast.net>   norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:    >>norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  >>" >>>$ DEFINE/SYSTEM BRK20 = WORP055 >>( >>>I would have expected a syntax error. >>>Is this expected behavior?  [...] E > None of which begins to explain why the equal sign (the third token H > in the line) gets appended to the logical-name-value (the second tokenF > in the line) or why the intervening space (the token delimiter) gets: > ignored (eliminated, deleted, swallowed up, lost, etc.). > H > What is the explaination of this?  Was it always the case? Is it still- > the case (I am on V7.2VAX and V7.3-1Alpha)?    Same behavior on Alpha V7.3-2:   $ show system/noprocess K OpenVMS V7.3-2  on node RABBIT   5-APR-2006 12:58:39.35  Uptime  2 20:35:18  $ DEFINE/SYSTEM BRK20 = WORP055  $ sho log BRK20=+     "BRK20=" = "WORP055" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:16:58 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) 7 Subject: Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign 1 Message-ID: <eYSYf.5891$ev7.627@news.cpqcorp.net>   / I have entered a formal problem report on this.    --  J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 13:35:44 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.com7 Subject: Re: Strange behavior of DEFINE with equal-sign Q Message-ID: <OFCAC090F6.EFCADC18-ON85257147.00606C8A-85257147.0060A790@metso.com>   D "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn@gmail.com> wrote on 04/05/2006 01:01:41 PM:  C > On 4/5/06, norm.raphael@metso.com <norm.raphael@metso.com> wrote:  > >  > > H > > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote on 04/04/2006 07:23:40 PM:  > > # > > > norm.raphael@metso.com wrote: ' > > > > $ DEFINE/SYSTEM BRK20 = WORP055  > > > - > > > > I would have expected a syntax error. " > > > > Is this expected behavior? > > > G > > None of which begins to explain why the equal sign (the third token J > > in the line) gets appended to the logical-name-value (the second tokenH > > in the line) or why the intervening space (the token delimiter) gets< > > ignored (eliminated, deleted, swallowed up, lost, etc.). > > J > > What is the explaination of this?  Was it always the case? Is it still/ > > the case (I am on V7.2VAX and V7.3-1Alpha)?  > ? > With a little trial and error I discovered that the following  > characters do the same thing:  > # > ? ] ^  >   G I has been shown to me in an off-line message that if you do this with:    $ASSIGN WORP055 = BRK20 K %DCL-W-MAXPARM, too many parameters - reenter command with fewer parameters   \BRK20\  H an error correctly results.  This indicates to me that a DCL bug exists.  H > Now if anyone can figure out how these characters are related, perhaps4 > the solution to this mystery will become apparent. >  > Ken    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:20:26 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 3 Subject: Re: TCPIP+LinkSys+Win2K+OpenVMS Adventures ) Message-ID: <op.s7ja8cqczgicya@hyrrokkin>   L On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 21:02:00 -0700, Schnootling <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>   wrote:   > Hi Everyone, > $ > Well ... I WAS ABLE TO GET IN !!!! > H > I got me 2 ethernet cards on my Alpha. To make a long (see appendix toG > this note) story shorter: I disabled one of the cards, the EWA0 card, I > via the TCPIP SET NOINTERFACE WE0 command. This was the interface using I > 192.168.1.5. Now, I have 4 Win2K telnet sessions open to the Alpha. I'm 6 > so happy I think I'll have a chocolate brownie-bite. > E > Thanks again to everyone on, and off, this newsgroup who helped me.  >  > Chuck's Networking Odyssey! > or "The (Interface) Card and I"  > , > P.S. The circuitous route (puns intended): > RUN SYS$SYSTEM:LANCP$ > LANCP>show device /characteristicsI > (EWB0 is set to full-duplex+100Mb/s, EWA0 is set to half-duplex+10Mb/s) / > LANCP>set device ewa0 /full_duplex /speed=100  > E > ... now, EWB0=192.168.1.6 and EWA0=192.168.1.5 . And, I had thought E > from day-one that 192.168.1.5 was what I wanted/was-going to use. I F > dreamed up 192.168.1.6 as a "failover" address 'cause I thought thatH > was what you did for failover. And after the SET DEVICE, the PINGs didC > seem to run "faster" going from Alpha to Win2K. However I'm still C > getting 50%  PING packet loss from Win2K to Alpha on 192.168.1.6.  > I > Telnet and PING to 192.168.1.5 still fail miserably. However, telnet to  > 192.168.1.6 WORKS !  > G > I logout and try it again (i.e. telnet to 192.168.1.6) and it DOESN'T B > WORK. High-pitched scream echoes through downtown. Scratch head.5 > Recycle TCPIP on Alpha. Decide to go-with-the-flow: G > TCPIP SET NOINTERFACE WE0  ... (i.e. disable the one=192.168.1.5 that E > was originally at half-duplex+10Mb/s... which I had thought was the  > 'correct' one to use) H > Voila' : I get login prompts, thereby demonstrating that all computers( > work by a mixture of chance and magic. > E > Yes, the two cards were messing each other, and me, up. No, I don't ; > understand what was going on. Yet. Thanks again everyone.  >    Did you try 2 ifconfig we0 alias 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.0.0' I don't think you needed a second card.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:11:54 -0400* From: "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca>P Subject: Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ?0 Message-ID: <1237jv9gvt6p50a@corp.supernews.com>   > Syltrem wrote: >> >> Good morning  >>% >> I must be missing something today.  >>) >> I have an account with these settings:  >> WSdef:        16384 >> WSquo:        32768 >> WSextent:     65536 >> Pgflquo:     175000 >> >> And a SH PROC/ACCO shows:$ >> Peak working set size:       6176$ >> Peak virtual size:         246560  >> Page faults:           523575 >>& >> I do have free memory on the system >>J >> This is an interactive session. *All* interactive sessions have a WS of >> 6176 I >> pages in the WS and some do a lot of pagefaults, regardless of the WS*  >> values in UAF. I >> All other process types (detached, batch) with the same user accounts,  >> don't >> suffer from this limitation.  >>H >> I never bothered before as I was very short on memory, and only a few >> usersL >> were doing lots of pagefaults due to the software (same for all of those)H >> they are using. Others were fine and I only found out today that they >> also,A >> are limited to 6176 pages (although it's sufficient for them).  >>? >> Where does "6176" pages come from, and where can I raise it?  >> >> OVMS Alpha 7.3-1  >> >> Thanks !  > 6 > The output of SHOW MEMORY/PHYSICAL would be helpful. >   @               System Memory Resources on  5-APR-2006 09:11:10.46  L Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    ModifiedL   Main Memory (8.00GB)           1048576      143793      785305      119478  G Of the physical pages in use, 302589 pages are permanently allocated to  OpenVMS.  E > Output from SHOW SYSTEM/PROC=SWAPPER might give another small clue.  >  This guy is mostly idle F   Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts Pages F 20400401 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:02:18.93         0 0   B > Watch MONITOR SYSTEM/INT=2 briefly and see if you have processes8 > outswapped (may indicate a memory constrained system).          Process States   LEF:   269      LEFO:     0  HIB:    86      HIBO:     0  COM:     0      COMO:     0  PFW:     0      Other:    4  MWAIT:   0             Total: 360      >  > --   > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems   I As I said, I do have free memory. For some reason I'd like to understand, / the interactive processes wonn<t use any of it.    Thanks ! Syltrem    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:18:32 -0400 From: "Jilly" <jilly@hp.com>P Subject: Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ?, Message-ID: <4433dfc9$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  L What are PFRATH, WSINC & QUANTUM set to?  Are any of there processes run at  priority 16?  6 "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca> wrote in message * news:1237jv9gvt6p50a@corp.supernews.com... >> Syltrem wrote:  >>>  >>> Good morning >>> & >>> I must be missing something today. >>> * >>> I have an account with these settings: >>> WSdef:        16384  >>> WSquo:        32768  >>> WSextent:     65536  >>> Pgflquo:     175000  >>>  >>> And a SH PROC/ACCO shows: % >>> Peak working set size:       6176 % >>> Peak virtual size:         246560 ! >>> Page faults:           523575  >>> ' >>> I do have free memory on the system  >>> K >>> This is an interactive session. *All* interactive sessions have a WS of  >>> 6176J >>> pages in the WS and some do a lot of pagefaults, regardless of the WS* >>> values in UAF.J >>> All other process types (detached, batch) with the same user accounts,	 >>> don't   >>> suffer from this limitation. >>> I >>> I never bothered before as I was very short on memory, and only a few 	 >>> users G >>> were doing lots of pagefaults due to the software (same for all of  
 >>> those)I >>> they are using. Others were fine and I only found out today that they 	 >>> also, B >>> are limited to 6176 pages (although it's sufficient for them). >>> @ >>> Where does "6176" pages come from, and where can I raise it? >>>  >>> OVMS Alpha 7.3-1 >>>  >>> Thanks ! >>7 >> The output of SHOW MEMORY/PHYSICAL would be helpful.  >> > A >              System Memory Resources on  5-APR-2006 09:11:10.46  > C > Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use  
 > ModifiedB >  Main Memory (8.00GB)           1048576      143793      785305  > 119478 > I > Of the physical pages in use, 302589 pages are permanently allocated to 
 > OpenVMS. > F >> Output from SHOW SYSTEM/PROC=SWAPPER might give another small clue. >> > This guy is mostly idle G >  Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts  > Pages H > 20400401 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:02:18.93         0 > 0  > C >> Watch MONITOR SYSTEM/INT=2 briefly and see if you have processes 9 >> outswapped (may indicate a memory constrained system).  >  >       Process States > LEF:   269      LEFO:     0  > HIB:    86      HIBO:     0  > COM:     0      COMO:     0  > PFW:     0      Other:    4  > MWAIT:   0 >           Total: 360 >  >  >> >> --  >> David J Dachtera  >> dba DJE Systems > K > As I said, I do have free memory. For some reason I'd like to understand, 1 > the interactive processes wonn<t use any of it.  > 
 > Thanks !	 > Syltrem  >  >    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Apr 2006 09:24:15 -0700  From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.ukP Subject: Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ?C Message-ID: <1144254255.389495.197620@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    To ask the stupid question...   @ Do the processes actually need any larger working sets?  They'reC faulting, but are they faulting because of data that's not in their H working sets or because they need to offload data before acquiring more?   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:23:29 -0400* From: "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca>P Subject: Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ?0 Message-ID: <1237rlvrlkq6iff@corp.supernews.com>  ( "Jilly" <jilly@hp.com> wrote in message & news:4433dfc9$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...K > What are PFRATH, WSINC & QUANTUM set to?  Are any of there processes run   > at priority 16?  >  $ mc sysgen  SYSGEN>  SH PFRATHH Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit  Dynamic P --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------   ----  -------M PFRATH                          8          8         0         -1 Flts/10Sec   D  SYSGEN>  SH WSINC H Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit  Dynamic P --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------   ----  -------K WSINC                        2400       2400         0         -1 Pagelets   D H  internal value               150        150         0         -1 Pages  D  SYSGEN>  SH QUANTUM H Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.     Unit  Dynamic P --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------   ----  -------G QUANTUM                        20         20         2      32767 10Ms   D  SYSGEN>   ! Those processes run at priority 4    Thanks for your help Syltrem    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Apr 2006 09:56:58 -0700  From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.ukP Subject: Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ?B Message-ID: <1144256218.690953.18510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  F How is the batch queue set up?  Does that have working sets applied to it? E Have you tried the SET WORKING_SET command on the interactive jobs to ! see if this makes any difference?    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:36:10 -0400* From: "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca>P Subject: Re: Why are my interactive sessions limited to 6176 pages working set ?0 Message-ID: <1237sdrj7v2ce64@corp.supernews.com>  ( <etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message = news:1144254255.389495.197620@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...  > To ask the stupid question...  > B > Do the processes actually need any larger working sets?  They'reE > faulting, but are they faulting because of data that's not in their J > working sets or because they need to offload data before acquiring more? >    The latter.   J The same application running in batch or detached mode, uses approx 55000 " pages under the same user account.   Syltrem    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.189 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               p19 p20 p21 p22 p23 p24 p25 p26  
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