1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 10 Aug 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 442       Contents: Agile Manifesto (maybe OT)% RE: Clients using a GUI to access FTP % Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP % Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP  DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP  Re: DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP  Re: DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP  Re: DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP  Re: DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP< OpenVMS in the Press - Examples of Mission Critical Clusters Re: Speaking of Clusters: P Re: V8.3 Apache and Javascript in HTML files? (was Re: VMS 7.3 vs 8.x - java in - Re: VMS 7.3 vs 8.x - java in HTML files, Hmm. - Re: VMS 7.3 vs 8.x - java in HTML files, Hmm. - Re: VMS 7.3 vs 8.x - java in HTML files, Hmm. & Re: VMS backup: competition from Apple& Re: VMS backup: competition from Apple" Re: XP1000 1+4 beeps when starting" Re: XP1000 1+4 beeps when starting" Re: XP1000 1+4 beeps when starting" Re: XP1000 1+4 beeps when starting  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:51:26 -0400/ From: "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> # Subject: Agile Manifesto (maybe OT) H Message-ID: <8660a3a10608091351q398837ct4298c69489adb9a4@mail.gmail.com>  G Not being a developer type, this was new to me and I thought I'd share-   @ While doing a little research, I came across the online magazine Methods and Tools.  L Now I know what Tom Gilb (he of the famous Gilb's Laws) is up to these days.  E He mentioned the Agile Manifesto (http://agilemanifesto.org), and the  principles behind it.   % And I thought they were kind of neat:   % Principles behind the Agile Manifesto + (http://agilemanifesto.org/principles.html)    We follow these principles:   A Our highest priority is to satisfy the customer through early and ) continuous delivery of valuable software.   > Welcome changing requirements, even late in development. AgileB processes harness change for the customer's competitive advantage.  @ Deliver working software frequently, from a couple of weeks to a couple of months, with a$ preference to the shorter timescale.  O Business people and developers must work together daily throughout the project.   F Build projects around motivated individuals. Give them the environment: and support they need, and trust them to get the job done.  C The most efficient and effective method of conveying information to  and within a development" team is face-to-face conversation.  4 Working software is the primary measure of progress.  0 Agile processes promote sustainable development.  @ The sponsors, developers, and users should be able to maintain a constant pace indefinitely.   N Continuous attention to technical excellence and good design enhances agility.  L Simplicity--the art of maximizing the amount of work not done--is essential.  = The best architectures, requirements, and designs emerge from  self-organizing teams.  = At regular intervals, the team reflects on how to become more ; effective, then tunes and adjusts its behavior accordingly.      --   I'm job-hunting, folks. < Any leads or referrals would be most gratefully appreciated.1 Unsolicited commercial email, however, would not.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:57:34 -04001 From: "Farrell, Michael" <MFarrell@Voltdelta.com> . Subject: RE: Clients using a GUI to access FTPL Message-ID: <085BCCCF596B684092B66310B1D3BA7D036DD567@NJ103EX1.EAST.VIS.COM>  ; Made it work with Firefox Version 1.05... using "ftp://<VMS  username>@<ip address>"   A However the directory listing only shows one version (the highest  version numbered) of a file.   Mike   -----Original Message-----1 From: Dave Froble [mailto:davef@tsoft-inc.com]=20 ( Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:01 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com . Subject: Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP   Peter Weaver wrote:   I >>   And does Mozilla Firefox, or FileZilla (both GUIs, obviously), or=20 / >> some other tool work with the same sequence?  >=20J > I don't know, all I know is that I had a customer complaining that my=20 > FTP server is broken  H I haven't tried alternatives, but if they all work with VMS's TCP/IP,=20J then convincing the customer that it's Microsoft that's broken would be=20 my preference.  :-)    --=20 4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:53:40 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>. Subject: Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP, Message-ID: <8AuCg.83634$Lh4.57333@trnddc02>   Dave Froble wrote: > Peter Weaver wrote:  > H >>>   And does Mozilla Firefox, or FileZilla (both GUIs, obviously), or 0 >>> some other tool work with the same sequence? >> >>I >> I don't know, all I know is that I had a customer complaining that my   >> FTP server is broken  >  > H > I haven't tried alternatives, but if they all work with VMS's TCP/IP, J > then convincing the customer that it's Microsoft that's broken would be  > my preference.  :-)  >   H It's the old 800-lb gorilla joke:  "I have a gorilla for a pet" "Really?C How big is he?"  "800 pounds"  "Where does he sleep?"  "Anywhere he 
 wants to."         --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Aug 2006 06:22:52 +01002 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>. Subject: Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-nVdk8F1Rz9ds@dave2_os2.home.ours>   F On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 02:44:24 UTC, sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)  wrote:  8 > From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> > L > > I serve up T4 (CSVPNG) graphs to my colleagues at work via FTP; however,J > > since IE doesn't "play nice" with UCX's FTP server (or vice-versa, not@ > > quite sure which - perhaps both) these are served up from anL > > AlphaStation 255 running V7.3-2 and Multinet V4.4A, while the productionK > > and development clusters for our major back-end app. run V7.3-2 and UCX  > > V5.4, ECO-5.   > F >    My work-around is to map the top-level anonymous FTP directory to< > "/ftp/" in the Web server (CSWS 1.3?  1.2 + update V7.0?): > ( >       Alias /ftp/ "/aftp_root/000000/" > 1 > which is why I normally supply dual URLs, like:  >  >       ftp://antinode.org/xxxx $ >       http://antinode.org/ftp/xxxx > C > In many cases, IE users who get frustrated with FTP failures will H > migrate to the Web server.  I assume that any of the other Web serversE > could do the same thing.  My FTP server log is sprinkled with stuff  > like, for example: > D > [...] User:anonymous logged in ident:IEUser@ from Host:<somewhere>K > [...] User:anonymous ident:IEUser@ status:000184C4 CWD dir:MISC:[mdm.zip]  > / > That one was supposed to be "[.MISC]MDM.ZIP".  > G >    On the bright side, it seems that most of the population of Europe H > runs some kind of FTP file-sharing-parasite software which, because ofF > its UNIX-specific pathnames (with trailing slash characters), always  > fails on the TCPIP FTP server: >  > [...] 5 > %TCPIP-I-FTP_NODE, client host name: 85.177.155.103 ) > %TCPIP-I-FTP_USER, user name: anonymous ! > %TCPIP-I-FTP_OBJ, object: /pub/ G > %TCPIP-I-FTP_CHINFO, TCPIP$FTPC000B4: Failed to set default directory 2 > %SYSTEM-W-BADIRECTORY, bad directory file format5 > %TCPIP-I-FTP_NODE, client host name: 85.177.155.103 ) > %TCPIP-I-FTP_USER, user name: anonymous $ > %TCPIP-I-FTP_OBJ, object: /public/G > %TCPIP-I-FTP_CHINFO, TCPIP$FTPC000B4: Failed to set default directory 2 > %SYSTEM-W-BADIRECTORY, bad directory file format > [...] 5 > %TCPIP-I-FTP_NODE, client host name: 85.177.155.103 ) > %TCPIP-I-FTP_USER, user name: anonymous C > %TCPIP-I-FTP_OBJ, object: SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ANONYMOUS.060808100040p] B > %TCPIP-I-FTP_CHINFO, TCPIP$FTPC000B4: Failed to create directoryI > %SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection violation  > [...]  > @ > There are times when incompatibility is more helpful than not. >  > K > > I may someday, "in my copious spare time" as a former co-worker of mine G > > would say, put up either Apache for VMS or the follow-on product (I F > > forget what it is) on that box, but best not to hold one's breath. > B >    Most likely, that's "copious _free_ time".  See, for example:6 >       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copious_free_time >  > J >    Also, it's only fair to admit that I have gotten at least my share ofE > cooperation and assistance from a fellow at HP who works on the FTP D > server, so there's a limit on how much I can gripe about the thingD > without my conscience bothering me a little.  (But only a little.) > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 5 >    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 6 >    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818 >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547   E That might explain the (now forgotten) error message and work-around  ) when I pulled PCDISK and MTOOLS from you.   
 Thanks BTW   --   Cheers - Dave W.   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Aug 2006 12:29:39 -0700 % From: "VAXelate" <moore.mc@gmail.com> % Subject: DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP C Message-ID: <1155151779.740570.309980@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   @ Alpha ES40 running 7.2-1 and phase IV DECnet.  It is functioningG properly, but NCP just recently started showing VERY strange behaviour. F  If I do an NCP SHOW KNOWN NODES or NCP SHOW NODE 2.*, it doesn't showD any Area 2 nodes, but if I specifically do an NCP SHOW NODE 2.50 (or? any other normally defined Area 2 node), it displays correctly: ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Executor node = 2.34 (LANDS)   State                    = on 6 Identification           = DECnet for OpenVMS AXP V7.2    C     Node           State      Active  Delay   Circuit     Next node #                               Links   @  3.7 (MULDER)                                 EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.10 (PAGE)                                  EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.50 (STSCC1)                                EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.51 (SPWEL1)                                EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.103 (STDTO)                                EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.110 (NETHR1)                               EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.111 (GWLOAD)                               EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.112 (VADER)                                EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.113 (ANAKIN)                               EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.598 (HYPHEN)                               EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  3.900 (TGARY)                                EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  4.10 (MASTER)                                EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK) @  4.20 (ZAPPER)                                EWA-0         2.59 (KOJAK)    NCP>sh node hunter    0 Node Volatile Summary as of  9-AUG-2006 14:46:03  C     Node           State           Active  Delay   Circuit     Next  node.                                          Links  @  2.50 (HUNTER)   reachable                    EWA-0         2.50 (HUNTER) NCP>sh node hammer  0 Node Volatile Summary as of  9-AUG-2006 14:46:34  C     Node           State           Active  Delay   Circuit     Next  node.                                          Links  @  2.51 (HAMMER)   reachable                    EWA-0         2.51 (HAMMER) NCP>ex@ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  E The Permanent NCP database seems OK.  Short of restarting DECnet, any  ideas?   Thanks Chris    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:28:49 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.com) Subject: Re: DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP Q Message-ID: <OF01741088.D2CC24D6-ON852571C5.00706B0E-852571C5.0070805C@metso.com>    LOAD VOLATILE FROM PERMANANT ?  @ "VAXelate" <moore.mc@gmail.com> wrote on 08/09/2006 03:29:39 PM:  B > Alpha ES40 running 7.2-1 and phase IV DECnet.  It is functioningI > properly, but NCP just recently started showing VERY strange behaviour. H >  If I do an NCP SHOW KNOWN NODES or NCP SHOW NODE 2.*, it doesn't showF > any Area 2 nodes, but if I specifically do an NCP SHOW NODE 2.50 (orA > any other normally defined Area 2 node), it displays correctly: A > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  > Executor node = 2.34 (LANDS) >  > State                    = on 8 > Identification           = DECnet for OpenVMS AXP V7.2 >  > E >     Node           State      Active  Delay   Circuit     Next node % >                               Links  > B >  3.7 (MULDER)                                 EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.10 (PAGE)                                  EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.50 (STSCC1)                                EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.51 (SPWEL1)                                EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.103 (STDTO)                                EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.110 (NETHR1)                               EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.111 (GWLOAD)                               EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.112 (VADER)                                EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.113 (ANAKIN)                               EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.598 (HYPHEN)                               EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  3.900 (TGARY)                                EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  4.10 (MASTER)                                EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK) B >  4.20 (ZAPPER)                                EWA-0         2.59	 > (KOJAK)  >  > NCP>sh node hunter >  > 2 > Node Volatile Summary as of  9-AUG-2006 14:46:03 > E >     Node           State           Active  Delay   Circuit     Next  > node0 >                                          Links > B >  2.50 (HUNTER)   reachable                    EWA-0         2.50
 > (HUNTER) > NCP>sh node hammer > 2 > Node Volatile Summary as of  9-AUG-2006 14:46:34 > E >     Node           State           Active  Delay   Circuit     Next  > node0 >                                          Links > B >  2.51 (HAMMER)   reachable                    EWA-0         2.51
 > (HAMMER) > NCP>exB > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > G > The Permanent NCP database seems OK.  Short of restarting DECnet, any  > ideas? >  > Thanks > Chris  >    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Aug 2006 15:36:17 -0700 % From: "VAXelate" <moore.mc@gmail.com> ) Subject: Re: DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP B Message-ID: <1155162977.139555.123480@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > VAXelate wrote: D > > Alpha ES40 running 7.2-1 and phase IV DECnet.  It is functioningK > > properly, but NCP just recently started showing VERY strange behaviour. J > >  If I do an NCP SHOW KNOWN NODES or NCP SHOW NODE 2.*, it doesn't showH > > any Area 2 nodes, but if I specifically do an NCP SHOW NODE 2.50 (orC > > any other normally defined Area 2 node), it displays correctly:  > H >    DECnet Phase IV isn't, AFAIK, set up as a router on DECnet Phase IVE > on OpenVMS Alpha (host-based routing was added for DECnet-Plus), so E > you're probably operating as an end-node or as an extended-function H > (cluster alias) host.  Or are you executing this NCP command on a node3 > configured as a DECnet level 1 or level 2 router?  > J >    Are you using a local database or are you using DNS (DECdns) for name
 > service? >  >    SHOW EXEC CHAR, please? > # >    Does SET KNOWN NODES ALL help?  > ' >    Here's the current SPD for DECnet:  > 4 > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/info/SP4848/SP4848PF.PDF  G Node is part of a 2-node VMScluster (both ES40s, same versions)  Set as  a Phase-IV (type 1?) router   F (Mis-)behaviour only began over the past couple of days - I noticed itG when attempting a housekeeping operation that I had previously executed F numerous times on several nodes, but it may have been causitive (can'tD rule it out)  It yielded a file with NCP message that nothing was in! the database, starting my search:   (    $ Define/User SYS$OUTPUT tempfile.txt    $ MCR NCP SHOW NODE 2.*    ) DECdns not used - local NCP database only   D All area 2 nodes expected are still addressable (SET HOST, NCP TELL,/ etc), just don't show on a NCP SHOW KNOWN NODES   C NCP SHOW ADJACENT NODES continues to show all expected Area 2 nodes 4 (!?), yet SHOW KNOWN NODES or SHOW NODE 2.* does not  F Tried a copy to the volatile db from a know good (and complete) sourceC -- all expected nodes were copied and show up --- EXCEPT ANY OF THE  AREA 2 NODES ....<sigh>   8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~8 Node Volatile Characteristics as of  9-AUG-2006 18:09:37   Executor node = 2.34 (*****)  6 Identification           = DECnet for OpenVMS AXP V7.2! Management version       = V4.0.0  Incoming timer           = 45  Outgoing timer           = 60 " Incoming Proxy           = Enabled" Outgoing Proxy           = Enabled! NSP version              = V4.1.0  Maximum links            = 32  Delay factor             = 80  Delay weight             = 5 Inactivity timer         = 60  Retransmit factor        = 10 ! Routing version          = V2.0.0 % Type                     = routing IV  Routing timer            = 600 Broadcast routing timer  = 180 Maximum address          = 1023  Maximum circuits         = 16  Maximum cost             = 1022  Maximum hops             = 30  Maximum visits           = 63  Maximum area             = 63  Max broadcast nonrouters = 64  Max broadcast routers    = 32  Maximum path splits      = 1 Area maximum cost        = 1022  Area maximum hops        = 30  Maximum buffers          = 100 Buffer size              = 5760 Default access           = incoming and outgoing Pipeline quota           = 4032  Alias maximum links      = 32 ) Alias node               =  2.35 (******) ! Path split policy        = Normal  Maximum Declared Objects = 31    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:56:10 GMT , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>) Subject: Re: DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP 1 Message-ID: <_mwCg.1824$hv6.848@news.cpqcorp.net>    VAXelate wrote:    > Max broadcast nonrouters = 64  > Max broadcast routers    = 32   :    How many routers and non-routers around on the network?   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Aug 2006 18:57:39 -0700 % From: "VAXelate" <moore.mc@gmail.com> ) Subject: Re: DECnet-IV strangeness in NCP C Message-ID: <1155175059.792715.182750@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   F 2 other Phase-IV routers in this area (both VAXen), and a Cisco Router4 doing Area routing to the rest of the (small) world.     Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > VAXelate wrote:  > ! > > Max broadcast nonrouters = 64 ! > > Max broadcast routers    = 32  > < >    How many routers and non-routers around on the network?   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:03:21 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> E Subject: OpenVMS in the Press - Examples of Mission Critical Clusters T Message-ID: <FA60F2C4B72A584DBFC6091F6A2B868401873FE0@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   All,  B Readers of this list might be interested in the following links as2 examples of mission critical, multi-site clusters:  C 1. CareTech Solutions Completes Critical Infrastructure Upgrades in B Record Time for Detroit Medical Center's Electronic Medical Record
 InitiativeG http://www.caretechsolutions.com/default.aspx?id=3D19&sid=3D1&pr=3D58 =  (Aug 8,  2006)    Extract:F "CareTech has been expanding a wireless system to reach throughout allC eight DMC hospitals, which now are interconnected with a high-speed H network. The wireless capabilities provide the foundation for caregiversE to use their choice of PDAs, tablet PCs, wireless laptops on moveable G carts or standard PCs to record patient data. CareTech has also managed F the installation of a storage area network (SAN), a Citrix Server FarmH utilizing Hewlett-Packard (HP) Blade Server Technology and an HP OpenVMSH Alpha Server System cluster in a newly constructed data center at HutzelE Hospital on the DMC's main campus. The data center supports the DMC's B application development and system testing efforts and serves as a? critical backup to the primary data center at Detroit Receiving D Hospital, where CareTech has made significant upgrades to Oracle andE Citrix server farms, and installed additional HP OpenVMS Alpha Server 	 Systems."    [see rest of press release]   2 2. Tech Talk: Eurex Scales Up for the Quotes FloodC http://www.futuresindustry.org/fimagazi-1929.asp?iss=3D168&a=3D1135  (July-Aug 2006)    Extract:E "Eurex currently runs on a cluster of eight host systems split across H two data centers. The computers work together to keep loads balanced andC mirror data between their drives to prevent any losses. The cluster G could be expanded to 64 computers, Lessmann says, and those boxes could A be joined by others- many others. "We could theoretically run 100 H clusters in parallel," he says. "Scalability by adding machines will not( be an issue for the foreseeable future."  H The exchange is looking at making an upgrade to the machines themselves,F though more to further cut costs than to enhance performance, LessmannA says. After the next release of the Eurex system in November, the D exchange is planning to begin replacing its Alpha boxes with ItaniumG machines. Both types of computers are provided by Hewlett- Packard, but C the newer machines run on Itanium 2 chips. Lessman says the Itanium F machines offer more capacity and more speed at a quarter of the price.  C The upgrade, which is still in the planning stages, will affect the G eight back-end hosts, which handle the matching and clearing of trades, H and 30 local access points located in various trading centers around the world.  H The back-end operating system will continue to be Hewlett-Packard's openH VMS platform. Open VMS was the first platform that permitted clustering,G he says, "and it is still in my opinion the best cluster you can have."    [See rest of article]        Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:36:15 GMT 1 From: Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> " Subject: Re: Speaking of Clusters:1 Message-ID: <3HrCg.1799$to6.785@news.cpqcorp.net>    david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote: G > Never having used AIX I didn't recognise HACMP and made the erronious F > assumption from context that it was another Linux failover solution.I > I'm quite happy to accept your word that it is a good cluster solution.   I HACMP is a run-of-the-mill UNIX High-Availability (HA) cluster solution,  D roughly comparable to what TruCluster could do back in the ASE days H (pre-V5.0). Focus is all on failover. You see the typical references to = heartbeat, failover scripts, and active and "takeover" nodes.   F It's interesting that IBM must define the term "high availability" to ? include some implied downtime, as their solution can't provide  @ continuous application availability like an OpenVMS cluster can.H (From "High Availability Cluster Multi-Processing for AIX: Concepts and F Facilities Guide" http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/c2348646.pdfH "The difference between fault tolerance and high availability, then, is H this: a fault tolerant environment has no service interruption, while a F highly available environment has a minimal service interruption. Many @ sites are willing to absorb a small amount of downtime with highE availability rather than pay the much higher cost of providing fault  G tolerance. ... High availability systems are an excellent solution for  F applications that can withstand a short interruption should a failure I occur, but which must be restored quickly." By IBM's definition, OpenVMS  E Clusters achieve Fault Tolerance, not just High Availability (and in  A practice they actually do so at no additional cost beyond what's    required for High Availability.)   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:08:52 GMT ) From: patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> Y Subject: Re: V8.3 Apache and Javascript in HTML files? (was Re: VMS 7.3 vs 8.x - java in  ) Message-ID: <44DA871F.9000202@swbell.net>    Hoff Hoffman wrote:    > patrick jankowiak wrote: > G >> After FTP-ing some hundreds of HTML files over, I noticed that once  E >> they got on the system live, I could use any web browser and view  F >> source, and one short line of javascript had been inserted in each F >> HTML file near the beginning. I verified this by FTP-ing the files @ >> back to myself and looking at them, sure enough it was there. >  > .... > D >> Was VMS 8.3 set up wrong with some default I don't know about or D >> should it be playing with my HTML files? Did Apache do this? Has  >> anyone else seen this?  >  > G >   OpenVMS itself doesn't have this HTML Javascript insertion option,  F > barring manually running a perl script, DCL procedure or other such  > against the HTML files.  > H >   Some more details, please?   What was the Javascript?  Which Apache? > J >   Does the Javascript appear if you TYPE the files on OpenVMS?  And was < > the line in the source for the file; in the original copy? > C >   Was any HTML editor used?  (In my experience, Adobe Macromedia  J > Dreamweaver doesn't insert HTML into the file without explicit request, D > but I've used other HTML packages which gratuitously reformat and / > otherwise insert changes into the HTML file.)  > B >   I've certainly seen various Microsoft Windows packages insert D > Javascript into the data on the fly, usually as part of a Windows ? > security package.  One of the Norton packages was using this.  > G >   It's not typical that Apache inserts anything into its HTML, but I  H > expect its possible.  (Apache could probably make you your coffee, if D > you connected your hardware and loaded the right options into the E > .htbeverage file; remember to enable the RSS feed into the brewer.)   F Indeed, I don't have the answers, and didn't document it at the time. * I'm trying to see if Mr. Smiley remembers.  F It is comforting to know VMS did not do it, but I doubted it would do ? so without informing me. I did look at the files on the serial  * connected terminal and the line was there.  F I can say that the pages were all done manually with windows notepad, A which does not behave that way. I never use special HTML editors   because of cargo cult issues.   
 Thank you, Patrick    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:14:05 GMT ) From: patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> 6 Subject: Re: VMS 7.3 vs 8.x - java in HTML files, Hmm.) Message-ID: <44DA8859.3050003@swbell.net>    Neil Rieck wrote:   9 > "patrick jankowiak" <eccm@swbell.net> wrote in message     >>Hello, >> > ) > What version of Apache are you running? N > I've seen JavaScript get messed up by the STREAM_LF requirement. If you are M > running SWS-2.1 then you need to disable the STREAM_LF requirement via the   > following method: G > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/openvms_notes_apache.html#sws21  >  >  > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > Ontario, Canada.# > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/  > @ I recall we did look into this, now remembering STREAM_LF being D mentioned and Smiley did research and work on this but to no avail. G Maybe he didn't quite get it done for some reason, but I have faith in  7 his work. I have to, because I'm not an expert at this.    Thanks,  Patrick    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:10:35 GMT ) From: patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> 6 Subject: Re: VMS 7.3 vs 8.x - java in HTML files, Hmm.) Message-ID: <44DA8787.1080104@swbell.net>    JF Mezei wrote:    > patrick jankowiak wrote: > C >>they got on the system live, I could use any web browser and view D >>source, and one short line of javascript had been inserted in eachD >>HTML file near the beginning. I verified this by FTP-ing the files? >>back to myself and looking at them, sure enough it was there.  >  > I > I would extract that one line of evil javascript, and search your whole I > system for that line. It might reveal where it is stored, possibly some  > configuration file.  >  >  >  > > >>I do not recall what the little string of code was exactly,  >  > F > It would have helped a lot to remember that string of code. (or come, > here before you upgraded from 8.2 to 7.3). >  > B >>participating for a long time due the Wiz's untimely demise, the >>Charlie Matco incident,  >  > 2 > There is still a community of VMS enthousiasts.  >  > E >>Anyway, I nuked the version 8 system and all the data, went back to + >>7.3 and the javascript problem went away.  >  > & > Did you re-download the html files ? > I > You didn't mention which TCPIP stack you have and whether you installed ' > some separate/different FTP software. & We used the stack which came with VMS.   > I > If Apache had added the javascript, this would not have been visible if H > you FTPed the files back to another system, it would have been visible& > only from a browser's "view source". > E > Web servers can be configured to insert code in each HTML page they J > feed.  But it is very hard for an FTP application to ADD contents insideO > a file. (perhaps at the very top or very bottom, but not within the contents)   ' The code was just after the 'body' tag.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:03:33 GMT , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>6 Subject: Re: VMS 7.3 vs 8.x - java in HTML files, Hmm.1 Message-ID: <VtwCg.1825$Lx6.897@news.cpqcorp.net>    patrick jankowiak wrote:  ) > The code was just after the 'body' tag.   E    Check to see if there is a security tool on the Microsoft Windows  I system, if you were using a browser on the Windows system to look at the  A code.  I had a Windows client inserting Javascript into the HTML  I in-line, and it was driving me nuts until I sorted it out.  (I mentioned  G this earlier, but -- because it was so unexpected, and so memorable --  G I'll repeat it.  symerror, symwinopen, IIRC.  This was arriving in the  F head block, thanks to some Symantec Norton tools that were installed.)   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Aug 2006 20:19:44 GMT  From: healyzh@aracnet.com / Subject: Re: VMS backup: competition from Apple , Message-ID: <ebdg10016pq@enews3.newsguy.com>  . JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:B > And while HP apologists may still be supporting that IA64 thing,B > consider how quickly Apple has transitioned to the 8086. Its newF > machine, the MacPro completes its transition in some 220 days. (lessA > than a year for full product revamp of their servers, desktops, J > laptops). It uses the new intel Duo Core, and supports 64 bit computing.F > MacOS will allow 64 bit and 32 bit applications to run concurrently.  J There was no transition for the OS itself, Mac OS X started out running onL x86.  The original developers releases ran on x86.  The port was to PPC, notK x86.  The x86 port was done well prior to the PPC port, and was from 68k to G x86.  But then since you can't grasp the fact that modern CPU's are not I 8086's, I shouldn't expect anything you post to make sense, or for you to I even remotely have your facts straight.  Do you do anything besides troll  anymore?   		Zane   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:19:27 GMT ) From: patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> / Subject: Re: VMS backup: competition from Apple ) Message-ID: <44DA899B.7070200@swbell.net>    JF Mezei wrote:   J > Apple is having its litte party in San Francisco. Announced for its nextC > version of the OS: a new backup technology called "Time Machine".  >  > ##H > To take advantage of Time Machine, users need a second hard drive. TheH > software records a copy of every change made to a file, which requiredI > Apple to add extensions to Leopard's file system, Brian Croll, director H > of Mac OS X development, said in an interview following Jobs' keynote.B > Users can virtually "fly" back through time by scrolling throughG > different windows that represent days, looking for the file they need / > while appearing to travel into a black hole.   > ## >  > B > And while HP apologists may still be supporting that IA64 thing,B > consider how quickly Apple has transitioned to the 8086. Its newF > machine, the MacPro completes its transition in some 220 days. (lessA > than a year for full product revamp of their servers, desktops, J > laptops). It uses the new intel Duo Core, and supports 64 bit computing.F > MacOS will allow 64 bit and 32 bit applications to run concurrently. >  >  > http://www.apple.com/macpro/  E Please let me find humor amongst the admittedly good accomplishments:   E Apple now has a version of windows XP's system restore attached to a  G backup system, with a groovy GUI. (windows -is- a black hole, but they   hide that feature)  . But the best part is, they've discovered FX32!   Patrick    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:46:01 -0400C From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@icusc.com> + Subject: Re: XP1000 1+4 beeps when starting 8 Message-ID: <xXqCg.8151$Nx4.7609@bignews8.bellsouth.net>  K Well, I just sent a link to our tech support site but my email was rejected - by your server as one on a "naughty boy" list    I guess it's not my loss....       --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X251  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@islandco.com Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html   7 "Steven M. Schweda" <sms@antinode.org> wrote in message , news:06080816483842_2027FAC5@antinode.org...% > From: "work" <work@informchaos.com>  > . > > Can't find any info anywhere in the manual > J >    Which manual?  There's a ZIP-compressed HTML "XP1000 System ReferenceJ > and Maintenance Guide" ("XP1000SG.EXE" in the "MISC" directory on my FTP > server) which says:  > A >      LED                                  Beep   Possible Cause C >    M     L  Meaning of the Code           Code   Action to Repair J > -----+----+-----------------------------+------+------------------------G >  1110 0110  Memory array zero not usable   1,4   Check Array 0 DIMMS, I >                                                  Reseat DIMMs, Bad DIMM  >  > < >    The memory module layout on this system is not obvious: > 2 >     ------------------------ DIMM J8 Array 0 ---2 >     --- DIMM J4 Array 1 ------------------------2 >     ------------------------ DIMM J7 Array 0 ---2 >     --- DIMM J3 Array 1 ------------------------2 >     ------------------------ DIMM J6 Array 0 ---2 >     --- DIMM J2 Array 1 ------------------------2 >     ------------------------ DIMM J5 Array 0 ---2 >     --- DIMM J1 Array 1 ------------------------ > 1 >      |                                        | 1 >      |  CPU Daughter Card Extractor Brackets  | 1 >      V                                        V  > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 5 >    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 6 >    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818 >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:04:26 -0500 (CDT)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)+ Subject: Re: XP1000 1+4 beeps when starting 2 Message-ID: <06080915042590_2027FAC5@antinode.org>  C From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@icusc.com>   M > Well, I just sent a link to our tech support site but my email was rejected / > by your server as one on a "naughty boy" list   E    My server?  Well, not knowing which address was rejected (or why), E it's hard to say why it happened.  As usual, the actual error message = would be more helpful than a colorful interpretation thereof.    > I guess it's not my loss....  F    Well, not knowing what you were trying to offer (or why), it's hardH to say how big a loss I have suffered, either.  (Note that I was not the) one with this particular XP1000 problem.)   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:57:14 GMT ) From: patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> + Subject: Re: XP1000 1+4 beeps when starting ) Message-ID: <44DA9276.2090805@swbell.net>    Steven M. Schweda wrote:   <snip>  9 >  There's a ZIP-compressed HTML "XP1000 System Reference J > and Maintenance Guide" ("XP1000SG.EXE" in the "MISC" directory on my FTP	 > server)    Steven,   E Thank you very much for this manual. I never had the original. There  F is an improvement for cooling, to move the intake air thermistor from C in front of the top (CPU) fan to a new position in one of the bolt  D wells of the CPU heatsink. Mucho more air now moves through the box.   Has anyone else ever done this?   
 best regards,  Patrick    ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 22:22:32 -0500 (CDT)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)+ Subject: Re: XP1000 1+4 beeps when starting 2 Message-ID: <06080922223246_2027FAC5@antinode.org>  ) From: patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net>    > [...]  There  H > is an improvement for cooling, to move the intake air thermistor from E > in front of the top (CPU) fan to a new position in one of the bolt  F > wells of the CPU heatsink. Mucho more air now moves through the box. > ! > Has anyone else ever done this?   E    Not I, but I did add a small (6cm?) exhaust fan on the inside back H wall (near the top).  It's a 12V fan, and I run it on 5V stolen from one? of the unused small (floppy/Zip drive) power connectors.  Being F under-powered, it's quiet, but it does seem to move some warm air out.  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.442 ************************