1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 16 Aug 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 454       Contents: Re: Build procedure for WGET Re: Build procedure for WGET% Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP % Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP % Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP ! Configuring CDE for Dual Monitors  Re: CPU Speed on ALpha ES40  Re: Don't miss J F's Meltdown! Re: I should'a known better! Re: I should'a known better!P Re: Missing freeware submission (was Freeware V8.0 and July 2006 OpenVMS FAQ Ava= Re: OpenVMS Integrity install CD's and layered products media = Re: OpenVMS Integrity install CD's and layered products media = Re: OpenVMS Integrity install CD's and layered products media , OT Re: OT: The race for 8086 servers is on !0 Re: OT Re: OT: The race for 8086 servers is on !0 Re: OT Re: OT: The race for 8086 servers is on !% OT: The race for 8086 servers is on ! ) Re: OT: The race for 8086 servers is on ! ( Replacement for Pathworks EXTAuth module, Re: Replacement for Pathworks EXTAuth module Source to VMS ZIP/UNZIP  Re: Source to VMS ZIP/UNZIP % Re: The race for 8086 servers is on ! & Re: [VMS] Products in Operating System  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:38:26 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>% Subject: Re: Build procedure for WGET + Message-ID: <44E27712.23F84455@comcast.net>    "Steven M. Schweda" wrote: > ' > From: Jeremy Begg <nospam@vsm.com.au>  > K > > This message is for StevenSchweda, whose mail server is blocking mine. O > > (The error message is 'Your IP address or subnet is in my list of bad ones' H > > which seems a little odd as none of my systems are listed in any RBL > > database that I know of.)  > H >    I tend to add whole IP address blocks to my Bad-Clients list when IJ > get junk e-mail from somewhere.  If I knew your server's address, I'd beJ > happy to accomodate it.  (In a pinch, there's also a message form on the > Web server.) > K > > Anyway, today I downloaded WGET 1.10.2b and attempted to build it on my N > > OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 system.  It failed during the LINK command because itB > > tried to access MULTINET_SOCKET_LIBRARY, which does not exist.	 > > [...]  > H >    Yes, the explicit Multinet references are old and probably obsoleteI > (VMS V6.x?), and I've suspected this for a while, but I was waiting for G > a complaint from someone who had actual Multinet experience, as I run  > the HP product here. > ? >    I think that an explicit command-line request for Multinet G > specificity would be best nowadays.  I should be able to arrange that  > pretty soon.   May I offer a Suggestion?   F Have the .COM proc to LINK the image look for Multinet's UCX-emulation) library first, then UCX's socket library.   F An image linked against UCX or UCX-emulation should work on any of the7 three IP stacks for OpenVMS Alpha or I64, shouldn't it?    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:09:31 -0500 (CDT) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)% Subject: Re: Build procedure for WGET 2 Message-ID: <06081521093174_2027FAC5@antinode.org>  2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>  H > Have the .COM proc to LINK the image look for Multinet's UCX-emulation+ > library first, then UCX's socket library.   H    MMS (or MMK) organizes the link, not a command procedure.  And, untilH someone tells me otherwise, I'll assume that the existing procedure willF be fine if it doesn't attempt to do any of the MultiNet-specific stuff it tries to do now.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Aug 2006 12:59:01 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org. Subject: Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP3 Message-ID: <pzZ3o8BgHbn3@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <4keccgFbmob8U1@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:. > In article <vMUOshXa4Y0D@malvm9.mala.bc.ca>,6 > 	nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) writes:O >>   True, but most words don't change their meaning if you capitalize them :-)  >  > Not actually true. >  > Smith - a name > smith - an occupation    Interesting contention.   E One would typically use "smith" (the occupation) with an article such E as "the" or "a" but "Smith" (the proper noun) without an article.  So B case sensitivity is not required to disambiguate between those two possible meanings.   > bill  C Since the protruding front part of a cap, a duck's nose, a piece of > paper currency, a list or a legislative measure are all prettyF clearly unintended interpretations here, most English-speaking readersB are perfectly capable of ignoring case and assuming that "bill" is* intended as a proper noun in this context.  C [The fact that "bill" can be understood at all despite the multiple H defined meanings is a good example in its own right that English doesn'tG need case sensitivity to distinguish between competing interpretations]   B archie the cockroach got his meaning across pretty well using only lower case.   * PEOPLE WHO YELL CAN BE UNDERSTOOD AS WELL.  D "The Man Who Came To Dinner" has meaning, even if it is a title that6 is conventionally subjected to initial capitalization.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:24:15 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> . Subject: Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP, Message-ID: <44E2114A.A685AA1E@teksavvy.com>   briggs@encompasserve.org wrote:  > > bill > E > Since the protruding front part of a cap, a duck's nose, a piece of @ > paper currency, a list or a legislative measure are all prettyH > clearly unintended interpretations here, most English-speaking readersD > are perfectly capable of ignoring case and assuming that "bill" is, > intended as a proper noun in this context.  E No, whe n I see "bill todd", I think :  "Send invoice to Mr Todd :-)"     F As an aside, accented characters in french went through similar debateL in the 1980s before  accented characters were widely available on computers:   biscuit sal :  salted cookie  biscuit sale :  dirty cookie   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Aug 2006 12:43:01 -07001 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) . Subject: Re: Clients using a GUI to access FTP, Message-ID: <k6Kwf+fwShxA@malvm9.mala.bc.ca>  , In article <4keccgFbmob8U1@individual.net>, .     bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:   >>  O >>   True, but most words don't change their meaning if you capitalize them :-)  >  > Not actually true. >  > Smith - a name > smith - an occupation  >   =    Note that I said *most*. Your example is rather contrived.   O    The word still means the same thing. The fact that some people use that word R as a surname ( presumably based on an ancestor's occupation ) doesn't change that.I The word for the occupation would also be capitalized if it was the first N word in a sentence. Likewise "e e cummings" is still recognized as a name evenE though it isn't capitalized. In English capitalization is a stylistic : rule and generally doesn't affect the meaning of the text.  G    In any case, not to drift even further off topic I submit that "most F people" ( ie people with no former knowledge of the operating system )> would find it counterintuitive that a switch in a Unix command3 line means something different if it's capitalized.   >    however I believe we begin to drift into religious wars ...   > bill >  > --  L > Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesF > bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton   |C > Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 15 Aug 2006 20:23:04 -0700# From: "Charles" <ceharon@gmail.com> * Subject: Configuring CDE for Dual MonitorsC Message-ID: <1155698584.830372.260430@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>    Hello,  A I'm new to VMS and CDE.  I have a dual head node, and I'd like to D "expand" my desktop to cover both screens so that I can drag windows from one screen to another.   C Can anyone tell what I need to do, or let know where I can find the  appropriate documentation?   Thanks,  Charles    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:49:43 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>$ Subject: Re: CPU Speed on ALpha ES40* Message-ID: <rBwEg.10155$Z1.6235@trnddc03>   Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > chris wrote: > G >> Is there any way of determining the CPU speeds (CPU0 / CPU1)  of an  H >> alpha es40 when someone is logged on and using it. The normal way is J >> putting in a console and rebooting it , to see the speeds at the start  >> of boot up. >  > G >   If you have access to a relatively recent OpenVMS release (for the  G > definitions, and not for the retrieval path), you can use the system  E > marketing model (SMM) as an index into the information in ALPHADEF  F > include file.   The SMM is available on any Alpha system via, among $ > other paths, f$getsyi("hw_model"). > J >   I kinda went gonzo in one of the include files a while back... Here's 2 > what you'll see on an OpenVMS I64 V8.2-1 system: > 4 > $ sear sys$share:*.req alpha$k,es40/wind=1/mat=and >   > ******************************" > SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]STARLET.REQ;1 >  >  ...   J > literal ALPHA$K_AS2208050104 = 1820;    !  AlphaServer ES40 6/667 (4cpu)   ...   F > literal ALPHA$K_AS220B050201 = 1957;    !  AlphaStation ES40 67/667 " > (1cpu) (10-slot PCI, 8-slot MMB)L > literal ALPHA$K_AS220B050202 = 1958;    !  AlphaStation ES40 67/667 (2cpu)L > literal ALPHA$K_AS220B050203 = 1959;    !  AlphaStation ES40 67/667 (3cpu)L > literal ALPHA$K_AS220B050204 = 1960;    !  AlphaStation ES40 67/667 (4cpu)  A The question came up a couple of days ago - Customer has an ES40, $ 4 CPUs, what upgrades are available?     $ show cpu/full says:   2                 Type...........: EV67,  Minor = 11(                 Speed..........: 666 MHz  ! For each of the 4 processors, but   ' $ write sys$output f$getsyi("hw_model")  1820   which says it's an EV6.    OpenVMS V7.3-2.    (It is a 10-slot PCI)   F > literal ALPHA$K_AS220C050001 = 1984;    !  AlphaStation ES40 68/833  > (1cpu) (10-slot PCI)L > literal ALPHA$K_AS220C050002 = 1985;    !  AlphaStation ES40 68/833 (2cpu)L > literal ALPHA$K_AS220C050003 = 1986;    !  AlphaStation ES40 68/833 (3cpu)L > literal ALPHA$K_AS220C050004 = 1987;    !  AlphaStation ES40 68/833 (4cpu)  G At another site, they have another ES40 with EV68/833MHz, 4 processors, D 10 slot PCI, which does produce 1987 as the hw_model.  (And says the6 correct thing in show cpu/full)  That system is 7.3-1.  H Oh, BTW, shouldn't all the systems be "AlphaServer", not "AlphaStation"?    F > literal ALPHA$K_AS220C050101 = 1988;    !  AlphaStation ES40 68/833  > (1cpu) (6-slot PCI) L > literal ALPHA$K_AS220C050102 = 1989;    !  AlphaStation ES40 68/833 (2cpu)L > literal ALPHA$K_AS220C050103 = 1990;    !  AlphaStation ES40 68/833 (3cpu)L > literal ALPHA$K_AS220C050104 = 1991;    !  AlphaStation ES40 68/833 (4cpu) > $   G The 1st system (67/666) was upgraded at some point, from a 2 processor, D 500MHz (I think) originally.  I'm pretty sure it was done in several? stages.  The 2nd system may have started out as an EV68/833 but E definitely had 2 more processors installed later on.  I don't know if E the upgrade history might make a difference.  (I.E. is there some >>> F console command that should have been done, or some jumper that should have been moved, etc.)  H P.S.  Am I correct that the EV68/833 is the fastest processor they couldC upgrade to in the 1st system?  Beyond that would require a new box?  (ES45 or ES47)?    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:34:15 -0400 0 From: Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@comcast.net>' Subject: Re: Don't miss J F's Meltdown! ? Message-ID: <MPG.1f4c786142973bef9897b4@newsgroups.comcast.net>   < In article <44e07717$0$503$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, obermd. @.alum.mit.edu.nospam says...  > B > "Gregory Morrow" <gregorymorrow@earthlink.net> wrote in message ? > news:1155511849.044460.269220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...  > >  > > WC Calm wrote: > > 4 > >> On 13 Aug 2006 16:11:46 -0700, "Gregory Morrow" > >> >>  > >> >> O > >> >  JF is like the proverbial cockroach crawling out of the nuclear rubble   > >> > or anF > >> >especially pesky case of crabs that you just CAN'T get rid of... > >> > >>- > >> The visual, while humorous, is chilling!  > >  > > I > > What' *really* "chilling" is the fact that JF is not locked up and he # > > is allowed to run around loose!  > >  >  > That's called democracy. >  > Mike Ober.  # I'd call it deinstitutionalization.    --Gene   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:27:48 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>% Subject: Re: I should'a known better! + Message-ID: <44E27493.46A51A0C@comcast.net>    DeanW wrote: > < > On 8/12/06, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:I > > I really do not understand why corporations are paying for such voice ; > > response software/hardware when customers despise them.  >   > a) it's cheaper than liveware.  G Well, sort of. No wages, no bennies to pay; however, the actual cost in . terms of lost business is harder to calculate.   > b) the customers  . ...who don't change providers/vendors/etc. ...   > tolerate it.G > c) nobody complains. (The fact that there's no channel to do so might $ > have something to do with that...)  E I'm sure there's lots of complaints. The lack of a channel to receive  them masks that, as you say.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:09:36 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> % Subject: Re: I should'a known better! 9 Message-ID: <48GdnWCh8KZ8O3_ZnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@libcom.com>    DeanW wrote:< > On 8/12/06, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:H >> I really do not understand why corporations are paying for such voice: >> response software/hardware when customers despise them. >   > a) it's cheaper than liveware. > b) the customers tolerate it. G > c) nobody complains. (The fact that there's no channel to do so might $ > have something to do with that...)  E I'd say that has everything to do with no complaints.  Seems the way  I things are set up at so many places, the only way to complain is to park  F a van full of fertilizer out front, and have a timer set it off after  you get clear.  D And some of us don't tolerate it, however, just not making the call  doesn't accomplish much.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------   Date: 15 Aug 2006 22:39:14 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com Y Subject: Re: Missing freeware submission (was Freeware V8.0 and July 2006 OpenVMS FAQ Ava + Message-ID: <ebtiei022s@enews4.newsguy.com>   , Mark Berryman <mark@theberrymans.com> wrote:P > So, for anyone who is interested, you can get a PCSI kit of Ghostscript V8.54 > > at http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/pcsi_kits/ghostscript-v0854/  C Thanks!  Downloading now.  I've been wanting to get a newer version 
 installed.   Zane   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:16:19 GMT = From: "Colin Butcher" <colinDOT.butcherAT@xdeltaDOT.coDOT.uk> F Subject: Re: OpenVMS Integrity install CD's and layered products media< Message-ID: <TboEg.3917$r61.1580@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>  J Depends who you work for, but you may find that DSPP membership would helpJ you get your own copies of these things on a regular basis. So might being part of the EFT process.   --   Hope this helps. Cheers, Colin.' (colinDOT.butcherAT@xdeltaDOT.coDOT.uk)    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Aug 2006 12:27:00 -0700; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> F Subject: Re: OpenVMS Integrity install CD's and layered products mediaB Message-ID: <1155670020.487433.52240@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   Colin Butcher wrote:L > Depends who you work for, but you may find that DSPP membership would helpL > you get your own copies of these things on a regular basis. So might being > part of the EFT process. >  > -- > Hope this helps. > Cheers, Colin.) > (colinDOT.butcherAT@xdeltaDOT.coDOT.uk)   G Maybe.  With any luck I'll be an HP LTE in about 2 weeks.  I don't know F if that gets me any advantage.  The problem is that it is as an OracleE DBA at a Solaris/HP-UX/Windows shop.  I only use OpenVMS at home now.    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Aug 2006 12:33:40 -0700( From: "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com>F Subject: Re: OpenVMS Integrity install CD's and layered products mediaB Message-ID: <1155670420.563590.90090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   Colin Butcher wrote:L > Depends who you work for, but you may find that DSPP membership would helpL > you get your own copies of these things on a regular basis. So might being > part of the EFT process. >  > -- > Hope this helps. > Cheers, Colin.) > (colinDOT.butcherAT@xdeltaDOT.coDOT.uk)   G Don't know about Itanium but the DSPP-provided media kits for the Alpha E were economized out of the program.  You can buy them for a discount, C but even with that it costs more than the DSPP fees to even get two - kits per year now, where we used to get four.   G We will also need to buy a media kit; the RX2620 from the porting class G came with nearly everything pre-installed but no actual media; that was E my main complaint/suggestion for improvement on the course, which was  very worthwhile.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:29:42 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com5 Subject: OT Re: OT: The race for 8086 servers is on ! Q Message-ID: <OFD79F7527.D1B7A7DF-ON852571CB.006AE89C-852571CB.006B16C3@metso.com>   F  "...the 2 main rivals are litterally (sic) racing to market with...."? Interesting type - literally littering the offerings landscape.   H JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote on 08/15/2006 03:23:05 PM:  I > On the heels of Intel releasing its improved 8086 offering (Woodcrest), H > AMD is releasing a new Opteron today which is essentially a placemaker6 > for the next generation 4 core models due out later. > ) > http://news.com.com/AMD+unleashes+next- @ > generation+Opteron+chips/2100-1006_3-6105605.html?tag=nefd.top > I > This uses a new socket with 1207 connectors , ready to support the quad  > core CPUs coming next. > I > While the AMD announcement is mostly PR while waiting for its real next G > chip, it does show how the market dor 8086 server chips has become so I > competitive that the 2 main rivals are litterally racing to market with I > *any* improvements they can put in and one rival cannot allow the other I > to make too much PR about a new chip without countering it with its own  > PR initatives. > J > As this rate, IA64 will be blindsighted and won't even know what hit it. > J > By 2007, I expect Intel to announce plans to add certain features to itsE > 8086 server product line that will make IA64 totally irrelevant and I > allow HP to finally admit that IA64 is no good and that it is moving to B > the 64 bit 8086 that will now sport lots of enterprise features. > G > So far, the predictions, made starting in February of 2004, that IA64 4 > will become irrelevant in 2007 are still on track. > I > Me thinks that the VMS engineers should get together in the basement of F > ZKO to do some exercise: move the exercise equipment to a corner andH > setup the covert offices where they will work on the port of VMS to 64 > bit 8086.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:31:24 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>9 Subject: Re: OT Re: OT: The race for 8086 servers is on ! + Message-ID: <44E2756C.75CF1052@comcast.net>    norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  > H >  "...the 2 main rivals are litterally (sic) racing to market with...."A > Interesting type - literally littering the offerings landscape.     Alliteration to the next degree?   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 02:47:28 GMT ) From: patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> 9 Subject: Re: OT Re: OT: The race for 8086 servers is on ! ) Message-ID: <44E28741.1080703@swbell.net>    David J Dachtera wrote:    > norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  > H >> "...the 2 main rivals are litterally (sic) racing to market with...."A >>Interesting type - literally littering the offerings landscape.  >  > " > Alliteration to the next degree? >  Groaning and rolling eyes!!   $ Hi David how ya doing? been a while.   Patrick    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:23:05 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> . Subject: OT: The race for 8086 servers is on !, Message-ID: <44E21F10.BF38B3B7@teksavvy.com>  G On the heels of Intel releasing its improved 8086 offering (Woodcrest), F AMD is releasing a new Opteron today which is essentially a placemaker4 for the next generation 4 core models due out later.  e http://news.com.com/AMD+unleashes+next-generation+Opteron+chips/2100-1006_3-6105605.html?tag=nefd.top   G This uses a new socket with 1207 connectors , ready to support the quad  core CPUs coming next.    G While the AMD announcement is mostly PR while waiting for its real next E chip, it does show how the market dor 8086 server chips has become so G competitive that the 2 main rivals are litterally racing to market with G *any* improvements they can put in and one rival cannot allow the other G to make too much PR about a new chip without countering it with its own  PR initatives.  H As this rate, IA64 will be blindsighted and won't even know what hit it.  H By 2007, I expect Intel to announce plans to add certain features to itsC 8086 server product line that will make IA64 totally irrelevant and G allow HP to finally admit that IA64 is no good and that it is moving to @ the 64 bit 8086 that will now sport lots of enterprise features.  E So far, the predictions, made starting in February of 2004, that IA64 2 will become irrelevant in 2007 are still on track.  G Me thinks that the VMS engineers should get together in the basement of D ZKO to do some exercise: move the exercise equipment to a corner andF setup the covert offices where they will work on the port of VMS to 64	 bit 8086.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 02:42:03 GMT ) From: patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> 2 Subject: Re: OT: The race for 8086 servers is on !' Message-ID: <44E285FC.60106@swbell.net>   D Ok, why would I want an 8086 server? I have a pristine 80286 system  sitting out in the lab 8-P   PJ   JF Mezei wrote:   = > On the heels of Intel releasing its improved 8086 offering     ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:07:58 -0600 6 From: "Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam>1 Subject: Replacement for Pathworks EXTAuth module 5 Message-ID: <44e229a1$0$3574$815e3792@news.qwest.net>   M Does anyone have a low cost (or free) replacement for the Pathworks external   authentication module?  
 Mike Ober.   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Aug 2006 15:12:55 -0700) From: "DaveG" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> 5 Subject: Re: Replacement for Pathworks EXTAuth module B Message-ID: <1155679975.855878.205860@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   Michael D. Ober wrote:N > Does anyone have a low cost (or free) replacement for the Pathworks external > authentication module? >  > Mike Ober.  $ Not sure if this helps in your case.  ? The Advanced Server external authentication piece is free, btw. 4 Advanced Server client connections are what cost $$.   Dave...    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:27:38 -0400 , From: <Barry.Treahy@EmersonNetworkPower.com>  Subject: Source to VMS ZIP/UNZIPM Message-ID: <63A4454BFCE1C048B2683DBB63A3633363C55F@ETP-CIN-US-EX01.etp1.com>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6C098.7C7A95A7  Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="us-ascii" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   H It would seem that ZIP it's more recent incarnation for VMS (2.32) opensG files in a transparent manner which breaks some processes we have, that D depend on knowing that a file was open and being zipped.  Who is the? keeper of the source and what is the possibility of getting it?   
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 zipped.&nbsp; H Who is the keeper of the source and what is the possibility of getting = it?<br>  <br>* Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>  8 <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;6 font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>  8 <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;  font-family:Arial'>Barry Treahy,J Jr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=1 ;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>   8 <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;B font-family:Arial'>Vice President/CIO</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>  8 <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;G font-family:Arial'>Midwest Microwave, Inc.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>   8 <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;< font-family:Arial'>Emerson&nbsp;Network Power Connectivity =& Solutions</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>  8 <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>E-mail: <a = J href=3D"mailto:Barry.Treahy@EmersonNetworkPower.com">Barry.Treahy@Emerson=1 NetworkPower.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>   8 <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;C font-family:Arial'>Phone: 480/314-1320</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>   8 <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;A font-family:Arial'>Cell:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 480/216-9568<br> A Fax:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;480/661-7028</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>   D <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: + 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   8 <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;J font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=J &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= nbsp; : .. but it's a DRY HEAT!&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>  D <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size: + 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>    </div>   </body>    </html>   ) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6C098.7C7A95A7--    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:29:35 -0500 (CDT) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)$ Subject: Re: Source to VMS ZIP/UNZIP2 Message-ID: <06081516293509_2027FAC5@antinode.org>  , From: <Barry.Treahy@EmersonNetworkPower.com>  J > It would seem that ZIP it's more recent incarnation for VMS (2.32) opens)             That's [in] "its", of course. I > files in a transparent manner which breaks some processes we have, that : > depend on knowing that a file was open and being zipped.  B    Hmmm.  I didn't think that the file open stuff had changed muchG recently.  (But what do I know?  I might have added something clever by B accident or mistake.)  I believe that we did get a request (fairly> recently) for something like BACKUP's /IGNORE = ACCESSIBILITY.   >   Who is theA > keeper of the source and what is the possibility of getting it?   =    There are many cooks.  I'm probably the most active in the C VMS-specific sections these days.  The official source is available  under:         http://www.info-zip.org/&       http://www.info-zip.org/Zip.html(       http://www.info-zip.org/UnZip.html  : With unreleased BETA source kits for the next versions in:  2       ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/OLD/beta/  %    Wake me if you find any mysteries.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:51:36 -0400 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> . Subject: Re: The race for 8086 servers is on !< Message-ID: <44e24ec8$0$24209$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>  ; "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message  & news:44E21F10.BF38B3B7@teksavvy.com...I > On the heels of Intel releasing its improved 8086 offering (Woodcrest), H > AMD is releasing a new Opteron today which is essentially a placemaker6 > for the next generation 4 core models due out later. > g > http://news.com.com/AMD+unleashes+next-generation+Opteron+chips/2100-1006_3-6105605.html?tag=nefd.top  > I > This uses a new socket with 1207 connectors , ready to support the quad  > core CPUs coming next. > I > While the AMD announcement is mostly PR while waiting for its real next G > chip, it does show how the market dor 8086 server chips has become so I > competitive that the 2 main rivals are litterally racing to market with I > *any* improvements they can put in and one rival cannot allow the other I > to make too much PR about a new chip without countering it with its own  > PR initatives. > J > As this rate, IA64 will be blindsighted and won't even know what hit it. > J > By 2007, I expect Intel to announce plans to add certain features to itsE > 8086 server product line that will make IA64 totally irrelevant and I > allow HP to finally admit that IA64 is no good and that it is moving to B > the 64 bit 8086 that will now sport lots of enterprise features. > G > So far, the predictions, made starting in February of 2004, that IA64 4 > will become irrelevant in 2007 are still on track. > I > Me thinks that the VMS engineers should get together in the basement of F > ZKO to do some exercise: move the exercise equipment to a corner andH > setup the covert offices where they will work on the port of VMS to 64 > bit 8086.   I They have denied it time-and-time again, but if they are not doing trail  I ports in a skunk works environment as part of a fall-back position, then   they are very foolish.  G On a related note, some people have suggested using the phrase "IA32e"   rather than 8086. # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IA-32e   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada." http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Aug 2006 22:50:48 -02006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)/ Subject: Re: [VMS] Products in Operating System , Message-ID: <44e24fc8$1@news.langstoeger.at>  o In article <44E062CE.9708.F59B2FD@squayle.insight.rr.com>, "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> writes: : >On 14 Aug 2006 at 16:44, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: >> VMS V8.3 is now the chance. > E >You'll have to wait for V8.4.  V8.3 has been released already.  The  1 >Field Test people already have the official kit.    I didn't, but now have.    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.454 ************************