1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 02 Dec 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 663       Contents:0 Is the DCL SEARCH utility callable from FORTRAN?< LIBPNG 1.2.13 for OpenVMS Alpha 8.2 - GNV style shared image Re: Newbie needs advice  Re: Newbie needs advice - Re: OT: Loreena McKennitt has a new album out - Re: OT: Loreena McKennitt has a new album out  Re: recursive copy in VMS ) Sequenting of reboots after power failure - Re: Sequenting of reboots after power failure 4 Re: Thoughts on the book: DEC is dead, long live DEC9 TIFF 3.8.2 for OpenVMS Alpha 8.2 - GNV style shared image   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:59:37 -0600 ! From: VMSguy <vmsguy@comcast.net> 9 Subject: Is the DCL SEARCH utility callable from FORTRAN? * Message-ID: <4571A2E9.7010900@comcast.net>  K Looking for a callable routine to invoke SEARCH from a FORTRAN application.   E I want to search text files for a string (much like SEARCH) within a   FORTRAN applicaiton.  ! Or do I need to build one myself?    TIA    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:48:30 -0500 - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> E Subject: LIBPNG 1.2.13 for OpenVMS Alpha 8.2 - GNV style shared image ; Message-ID: <gMudnY-yZalMvOzYnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@adelphia.com>   B This is a packaging of LIBPNG, build for use with GNV based build ) environments, and packaged in a PCSI kit.   I This library was built with _LARGEFILE support, and exact case universal  ) symbols in addition to uppercase symbols.   D A large number of programs use libpng, including GTK+ 2.x, and TIFF.    A A LIBPNG_STARTUP.COM file is put in the [VMS$COMMON.SYS$STARTUP]  C directory of the installation disk.  This file installs the shared  @ images and sets up logical names for the LIBPNG library to work.     Currently this package is at:   Z http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~malmberg/gnv/JEM-AXPVMS-LIBPNG-V0102-13-1.PCSI$COMPRESSED  = This package requires the ZLIB package that I posted earlier.   P http://encompasserve.org/~malmberg/GNV/JEM-AXPVMS-ZLIB-V0102-3-1.PCSI$COMPRESSED   -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    --  < Need a senior system engineer?  I am looking for employment.: http://encompasserve.org/~malmberg/MALMBERG_CS1_RESUME.TXT   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:32:30 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>   Subject: Re: Newbie needs advice8 Message-ID: <19e74$45712c00$cef8887a$27046@TEKSAVVY.COM>   Zack Kline wrote: D > One is the fact that the system seems to slow down noticeably when  > Multinet and such is running.   # $MON SYSTEM or $MON PROCESS /TOPCPU   H This will give you some idea of some runaway process that would consume 	 resources    for more help on monitor:    $MONITOR MONITOR> HELP MONITOR   )  > That could just be because of how many A > log files and such are open, too.  Operator.log, in particular,  > probably grows pretty fast.     K Number of opened files won't really slow down your system. But constant IO  J to a file would. And based on your message of the disk getting full, this  may be a problem.   G $SHOW DEV/FILES/NOSYS <disk> shows which files are currently opened by   various processes     = $DIR/SIZE=ALL/SEL=SIZE=MIN=10000/NOHEADER disk:[000000...]*.*   L This will give you a list of files (/NOHEADER gives you a fill file spec on I each line) with the ALLocated file size. You can see if any log file has   grown to unrealistic sizes.   K $TYPE/TAIL file  will give you the last lines of a text file such as a log  L file. If there is a repeating error message filling up your disk, you'll be  able to spot it.  F > %qman-e-nodiskspace...  Or perhaps it's %qman-e-nodisk.  Either way,   $SHOW DEV disk /FULL  K This gives you the information on the disk drive. This includes the number  L of free blocks. After you system has booted, you can yse this command every < minute to see if the freeblocks is going down significantly.    I $PURGE disk:[000000...]*.*/log  will, as a last resort, delete any older  I version of all files on the disk, freeing up some disk space. And it may  J also tell you which files that were purged have been consuming inordinate  amounts of disk space.  E >      Finally, I've got some confusion about system parameters.  I'm   6 For now, you shouldn't be fiddling with them. Just run  2 $ @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN GETPARAMS SETPARAMS FEEDBACK  H And let it set your system parameters. You can later on start to fiddle G with them once you know you have a working system you can return to if   changes don't work.     >  Can F > anyone explain these to me, or at least tell me what I don't need to > worry about?  
 $MC SYSGEN SYSGEN> HELP SYS GBLPAGES M STYGEN> HELP SYS (gives you a list of all parameters, there are lots of them)    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Dec 2006 10:08:29 -0800 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>  Subject: Re: Newbie needs adviceB Message-ID: <1165082908.986622.260580@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>   Zack Kline wrote:  > Hello,F >      I've made a few posts to this group some time ago, as I recall,H > but didn't have my own VMS system at that point.  In some ways I stillE > don't: this is only a SIMH emulation, but apparently SIMH is pretty 
 > good at it. H >      Anyhow, I'm not an old-time VMS user.  I have only used computersD > seriously for about eight years.  Windows, naturally, was my firstI > introduction to them, and it's still the host operating system on which  > I run the SIMH. A >      My configuration is pretty standard, with VMS v7.3 for the I > VAXserver 3900, and two RA92 disks: one system, one user.  I understand 9 > that the RA92 is about one GB or two, I forget exactly. H >      However, I've encountered a few issues, non-SIMH-specific mostly.D > One is the fact that the system seems to slow down noticeably whenG > Multinet and such is running.  That could just be because of how many A > log files and such are open, too.  Operator.log, in particular, I > probably grows pretty fast.  What I'm wondering is if anyone could give 1 > me advice for how to avoid the following error: F > %qman-e-nodiskspace...  Or perhaps it's %qman-e-nodisk.  Either way,  . Can you please supply the EXACT error message?  ! If the above is exact, you can do   ,     $ HELP/MESSAGE NODISKSPACE/FACILITY=QMAN  H > the system disk seems to get filled somehow.  I'd also appreciate someF > advice on general VMS housekeeping procedures.  How would I go aboutH > setting up a batch queue and jobs to handle the most common operations
 > internally? E >      Finally, I've got some confusion about system parameters.  I'm I > somewhat worried about oversetting one, like gblpages or gblsections or D > the various other settings that you can put in modparams.dat.  CanF > anyone explain these to me, or at least tell me what I don't need to > worry about?       $ @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN HELP  E should at least get you started in the right direction. While you can F change system parameters directly via SYSGEN or SYSMAN, you still needG to make the same change in SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT to avoid losing the ! change the next time you AUTOGEN.   F >      I know about the HP manuals and documentation available online.I > While I think I'm getting some of that, bit by bit, it's still a lot to G > take in.  Any help would be appreciated.  Sorry for the verbocity and D > length of this post, but the system is taking five minutes to shut0 > down...Not typical at all.  I wish I knew why.	 > Thanks,  > Zack.    AEF    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 02:29:51 -0500/ From: "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> 6 Subject: Re: OT: Loreena McKennitt has a new album outI Message-ID: <8660a3a10612012329l5116c6b1p2d3a3add0243acd7@mail.gmail.com>   E On 1 Dec 2006 18:47:22 GMT, Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote: # > In article <2WjPqyGfRzig@sinead>, ^ >         pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, DTI Athis ex CENA, Tel: 01.69.57.68.40) writes: > > In article <8660a3a10612010500h2f0e2577s5e4be7ccbedbe266@mail.gmail.com>, "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> writes: H > >> Forgive the post, but somebody who posts or used to post here had aH > >> line from one of her songs as a tagline, and I thought that if they0 > >> were still around they'd like to hear this. > >>P > >> I have heard her on National Public Radio's "Thistle and Shamrock" program. > >>A > >> http://www.quinlanroad.com/explorethemusic/anancientmuse.asp  > >>S > >> This woman is a gifted songwriter and musician who has an extraordinary voice.  > > K > > Yes, she's really nice, I like the Celtic/Medieval/Mediterranean style.  > > R > > Another great celtic bands (to be really OT): Lunasa, Shantalla, Gaelic Storm,E > > Capercaille (ah, Karen Matheson singing in Scottish Gaelic ....).  > > & > > Feel free to continue the list ... > >  >  > Silly Wizard >  > bill >  > --L > Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesF > bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton   |@ > Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h> >   D Okay , if you like fiddle music--Martin Hayes and Dennis Cahill "The Lonesome Touch"   * and there's always The Battlefield Band. ,   WWWebb --   Ajilon Consulting  Site resident at Quest Diagnostics = first.x.last@f$edit(contents of previous line,"COLLAPSE").com    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Dec 2006 12:50:16 +0100 R From: pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, DTI Athis ex CENA, Tel: 01.69.57.68.40)6 Subject: Re: OT: Loreena McKennitt has a new album out! Message-ID: <fWGuimstn60R@sinead>   { In article <8660a3a10612012329l5116c6b1p2d3a3add0243acd7@mail.gmail.com>, "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> writes:  [...] F > Okay , if you like fiddle music--Martin Hayes and Dennis Cahill "The > Lonesome Touch"  > , > and there's always The Battlefield Band. , >  > WWWebb > --    + Ah, yes, I kown Battlefied Band. Very Nice.   A I love fiddle music, especially Eileen Ivers and Alasdair Fraser.   8 I also love uileann pipe: Liam O'Flynn, Paddy Keenan ...  5 Other nice bands: Nightnoise, The Pentangle, Clannad.   @ One of my favorite bands was The Bothy Band (with Paddy Keenan).   Patrick  --O =============================================================================== N pmoreau@ath.cena.fr              ______      ___   _          (Patrick MOREAU)4 DSNA/DTI/SDER (ex CENA)         / /   /     / /|  /|J Athis-Mons France              / /___/     / / | / |   __   __   __   __  N BP 205                        / /         / /  |/  |  |  | |__| |__  |__| |  |N 94542 ORLY AEROGARE CEDEX    / /   ::    / /       |  |__| | \  |__  |  | |__|N http://www.ath.cena.fr/~pmoreau/              http://membres.lycos.fr/pmoreau/O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Dec 2006 10:00:19 -0800 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>" Subject: Re: recursive copy in VMSB Message-ID: <1165082419.214923.275610@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   JF Mezei wrote:  > AEF wrote:J > > What BACKUP command did you expect would restore a tree to a tree thatE > > didn't include the ellipsis wildcard (aside from BACKUP/IMAGE and   > > BACKUP/PHYSICAL, of course)? > L > The problem is that you need the ... at both ends, and that isn't natural.G > If you forget it in the destination, then you end up with a big mess.  > F > And if you do BACKUP [.recipes...]*.*  disk:[chocolate...]  it isn'tH > obvious if the tree will be replicated under [chocolate.recipes...] or > under [chocolate...]  & Actually, it is quite straightforward:    
 Example 1:  #     $ BACKUP [.RECIPES] [CHOCOLATE]   1 This copies files from [.RECIPES] TO [CHOCOLATE].     
 Example 2:  -     $ BACKUP [.RECIPES.CAKE] [CHOCOLATE.CAKE]   ; This copies files from [.RECIPES.CAKE] to [CHOCOLATE.CAKE].     
 Example 3:  )     $ BACKUP [.RECIPES...] [CHOCOLATE...]    This copies files #     from [.RECIPES] TO [CHOCOLATE], -          [.RECIPES.CAKE] to [CHOCOLATE.CAKE], ?          [.RECIPES.CAKE.FROSTING] to [CHOCOLATE.CAKE.FROSTING], 3          [.RECPIES.COOKIES] to [CHOCOLATE.COOKIES],      etc.  G So if you look at it this way, it's very simple! Note that the ellipsis B wildcard is more versatile than a simple recursion switch. You canA write things like [...*], [TOP...BOTTOM], [TOP...MIDDLE...], etc.   9 > This is stuff that a MAC used never has to worry about.   G You're not comparing dragging folders with typing commands, are you? If G you compare CLI to CLI, it's Unix on the MAC side (I don't know what it  was before OS-X!).   AEF    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 07:01:34 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 2 Subject: Sequenting of reboots after power failure8 Message-ID: <1407a$45716b20$cef8887a$30596@TEKSAVVY.COM>  J Damned, my long standing cluster uptime has been broken by the damned ice B storm followed by very strong wings. (lost 2 trees in backyard :-(  H When one has machines with disparate speeds, they all boot at their own I pace.  So if I want a specific (slower) node to get the cluster alias, I  G would have to get the other nodes to wait until they start their TCPIP  L software to ensure they don't get the cluster alias. But if the slower node K is truly down and not just behind, I would want one of the faster nodes to   get the cluster alias.    K One idea I have is to have a procedure invoked during SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM in  I various locations. It would draw a current list of nodes in the cluster,  K and then for each node check some logical name in LNM$SYSCLUSTER table (eg  K node_startup_progress ) Each software component would qadd a token to that  J logical name, so that other nodes could easily check to see if a node has H already started a certain software product. (and if the node is part of J cluster, but not yet added the desired token, then other nodes would then & wait until that token has been added).  J Any other ideas on how nodes could be synchronise reboots that were begun : at the same time but are progressing at different speeds ?   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Dec 2006 05:07:20 -0800 ! From: "Ian Miller" <gxys@uk2.net> 6 Subject: Re: Sequenting of reboots after power failureC Message-ID: <1165064840.277371.205840@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   
 use locks?2 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware80/lck/   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Dec 2006 08:04:18 GMT 2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>= Subject: Re: Thoughts on the book: DEC is dead, long live DEC ? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-0dYBihSd4ZT6@dave2_os2.home.ours>   2 On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:14:07 UTC, Stephen Hoffman ) <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org> wrote:    > Dave Weatherall wrote: > : > > ISTR hat Linux does DecNet - haven't tried it yet tho' > E >    Linux and various Unix systems have DECnet capabilities.  I was  C > dealing with a Sun SunOS box doing DECnet and even providing MOP  L > downloads for feeding bits into DECserver devices almost twenty years ago.  * Hm! must check if Solaris can still do it.   --   Cheers - Dave W.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:51:45 -0500 - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> B Subject: TIFF 3.8.2 for OpenVMS Alpha 8.2 - GNV style shared image; Message-ID: <pIqdnbjPks8Jv-zYnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@adelphia.com>   E This is TIFF 3.8.2 built using GNV and set up for use with GNV based  G builds.  It was built using the same configure and generated makefiles   that other platforms use.   H This build includes HTML documentation as well as utilities that can be  run from the bash shell.  I A TIFF_STARTUP.COM file is put in the [VMS$COMMON.SYS$STARTUP] directory  I of the installation disk.  This file installs the shared images and sets  . up logical names for the TIFF library to work.  H This must be installed on an ODS-5 volume, as it will create files with  multiple dots in their name.  < After installation, the HTML documentation can be viewed at:  7    file:///gnu/usr/share/doc/tiff-3.8.2/html/index.html     I This library was built with _LARGEFILE support, and exact case universal  ) symbols in addition to uppercase symbols.      Currently this package is at:   W http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~malmberg/gnv/JEM-AXPVMS-TIFF-V0308-2-1.PCSI$COMPRESSED   I This package requires the ZLIB and LIBPNG packages that I posted earlier.   Z http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~malmberg/gnv/JEM-AXPVMS-LIBPNG-V0102-13-1.PCSI$COMPRESSED  P http://encompasserve.org/~malmberg/GNV/JEM-AXPVMS-ZLIB-V0102-3-1.PCSI$COMPRESSED   -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    --  < Need a senior system engineer?  I am looking for employment.: http://encompasserve.org/~malmberg/MALMBERG_CS1_RESUME.TXT   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.663 ************************