1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 20 Dec 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 699       Contents: Re: 2006 Budget ending?  Re: DFU  Re: DFU 7 ERRFMT encountered fatal errors and is deleting itself. ) Re: GB Ethernet card for AlphaServer 1200 ) Re: GB Ethernet card for AlphaServer 1200 G Re: Grooming is a crime in the UK you Sicko! (Was Re: The Evil within!)   Re: Internet Explorer 7 Released0 Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server0 Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server- Re: Open sourced  VMS as a business concept ? , Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ?, Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ?, Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ? Re: The Hole in Cerner's Logic* Re: Tools to rebuild corrupt indexed files* Re: Tools to rebuild corrupt indexed filesC Re: Yours for the asking: Digital Storage Technology Handbook, 1989   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:54:07 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>   Subject: Re: 2006 Budget ending?9 Message-ID: <t72dndgV4e5nOB7YnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@libcom.com>    JF Mezei wrote: 2 >> "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" wrote:8 >> Complete VMS compatible systems starting at only $189 >  > A > This isn't just for an end of year budget issue. It is also for < > christmas gifts to yourself or another VMS bigot you know. > G > I strongly suggest you look at the front page of the www.islandco.com ( > web site. Don't miss this opportunity. >  >  > I > DISCLAIMER: I got a free system from them back in september, but was so < > impressed by their service I purchased a second one today.  4 Are you going to void the warranty on that one also?   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:48:07 +0100 4 From: Jur van der Burg <"vdburg at hotmail dot com"> Subject: Re: DFU4 Message-ID: <458906dd$0$334$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>  L Don't use DFU from the freeware cd or the HP website as it's not up to date.    Get the latest one from my site:   http://www.digiater.nl/dfu   Jur.     Gremlin wrote:K > Many thanks to all - for some reason (brain freeze?), when I googled all  B > I saw was the index/abstracts, not the ftp link.  Thanks to all! >  > Gremlin wrote:	 >> Hi All  >>H >> Apart from downloading/extracting the whole Freeware v7 CD, is there J >> any other location (Google didn't work for me), that I can download an ! >> AXP version of the latest DFU?  >>	 >> Cheers    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:14:05 +0100 4 From: Jur van der Burg <"vdburg at hotmail dot com"> Subject: Re: DFU4 Message-ID: <45896154$0$323$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>  A It's located at my home, and as far as I know it's about 100% up. ! If you have an issue let me know.    Jur.    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:m > In article <458906dd$0$334$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, Jur van der Burg <"vdburg at hotmail dot com"> writes: O >> Don't use DFU from the freeware cd or the HP website as it's not up to date.  >># >> Get the latest one from my site:  >> >> http://www.digiater.nl/dfu  > / > But this is not up all the time (as I noted).  > Is this a home system?- > Or do you have problems with your ISP, too?  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:40:47 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)@ Subject: ERRFMT encountered fatal errors and is deleting itself.2 Message-ID: <06122001404685_2020028F@antinode.org>  G    As the results of a Google search for this problem left something to 4 be desired, I'm submitting this note for the record.  
    E-mail:  < From:   ALP::SYSTEM       "ERRFMT - I bring you bad news..." To:     SYSTEM CC: ? Subj:   ERRFMT encountered fatal errors and is deleting itself.    [No message text.]    -    OPCOM messages (SYS$MANAGER:OPERATOR.LOG):   8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-DEC-2006 00:48:58.10  %%%%%%%%%%% Message from user SYSTEM on ALP ' ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE " %RMS-E-EXT, ACP file extend failed  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-DEC-2006 00:53:13.45  %%%%%%%%%%% Message from user SYSTEM on ALP ' ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE " %RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed* %SYSTEM-F-EXDISKQUOTA, disk quota exceeded  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-DEC-2006 00:53:13.76  %%%%%%%%%%% Message from user SYSTEM on ALP   ERRFMT - DELETING ERRFMT PROCESS ERROR LOG FILE UNWRITABLE ; TO RESTART ERRFMT PROCESS, USE "@SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP ERRFMT"     C    After applying a remedy for the original disk quota problem, the / suggested restart command seems to have worked.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:30:05 -0500 > From: "Island Computers, D B Turner" <dturner-at-islandco.com>2 Subject: Re: GB Ethernet card for AlphaServer 12000 Message-ID: <12oien4drdigu7d@news.supernews.com>   Apologies for spelling. I was typing on a laptop with a mangled wrist.     --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 x201# Mail: dturner-atnospam-islandco-com % (You know what to do with the dashes) I "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote in : message news:Zf1ih.1867$3v6.1678@bignews8.bellsouth.net...' > they lookk for the specific degpa ide - > tried generic dell version of the same card  > does not work  >  > dt > 4 > "Rick Jones" <rick.jones2@hp.com> wrote in message. > news:3F0ih.3724$t77.1274@news.cpqcorp.net...I > > David Turner, Island Computers US Corp <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote:  > >> in this case yes ! G > >> compaq only manufactured (or had manufactured) a certain amount of  cards  > >> DEGPA-xx. > > 3 > > Those were the old Tigon2-based beasties right?  > > F > >> Problem is that in most cases if running older versions of VMS orA > >> Tru64, or on older systems, only the older cards (DEGPA) are  > >> supported.  > > F > > I take it the VMS drivers, like the HP-UX drivers, are a bit picky > > about subvendor IDs? > > D > >> They are in such masssively short supply that market conditions= > >> apply...  demand outweights supply ergo prices go crazy.  > > 0 > > I was wondering if that might be part of it. > >  > > rick jones > > --  F > > No need to believe in either side, or any side. There is no cause.I > > There's only yourself. The belief is in your own precision.  - Jobert J > > these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :)H > > feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:04:57 -0800 4 From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet02_REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com>2 Subject: Re: GB Ethernet card for AlphaServer 1200$ Message-ID: <1166634256.91132@smirk>  - David Turner, Island Computers US Corp wrote:   M > Keep in mind people that you can keep a whole spare system in a stock room  C > for often less than 12 months of a maintenance contract from the   > manufacturer. 2 > And no 4 hour (right!?!?) wait for the engineer.  : I did exactly that for a client a few weeks ago.   It took9 less than an hour to get the spare server out of off-site 8 storage, swap a few cards into it, swap the StorageWorks disk drives, and reboot.  9 I then explained (again) the benefits of a VMS Cluster to 8 the client, and how it would have kept the downtime to a8 few seconds.   This time they got the message and agreed: to make it part of their 2007 upgrade plans.   A few years6 ago, a day-long outage was only a minor inconvenience.' Today it is a business-critical crisis.    Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 05:59:22 -0800) From: "WWWebb" <William.W.Webb@gmail.com> P Subject: Re: Grooming is a crime in the UK you Sicko! (Was Re: The Evil within!)B Message-ID: <1166623162.565593.225940@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Main, Kerry wrote: > > -----Original Message-----< > > From: Richard Maher [mailto:maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com]# > > Sent: December 19, 2006 7:38 AM  > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > > > Subject: Grooming is a crime in the UK you Sicko! (Was Re: > > The Evil within!)  > >  >  > Have a nice day. > 	 > Regards  >  > Kerry Main > Senior Consultant  > HP Services Canada > Voice: 613-592-4660  > Fax: 613-591-4477  > kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom > (remove the DOT's and AT)  >   G Google groups gives you targeted advertisements based on the content of 7 what you're reading- sometimes they get quite humorous.   C When reading this thread I got this interesting combination of ads:    Sponsored Links  MLM Software Developer" Customized MLM Software $4000 & Up# Experienced Professional Developers  mvisolutions.com   Dog Grooming Top 6 Websites For Dog Grooming www.ez4results.com   Senior SAP Consultant  Experienced Project Manager  PM / MM Expertise  www.signiainc.com     WWWebb  6 > OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 08:53:37 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ) Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 Released 3 Message-ID: <WDUAJhR$38Ks@eisner.encompasserve.org>   u In article <1166547053.969005.200000@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>, "Downloadhub" <priyank.narvekar@gmail.com> writes:  > " > With enhanced security features   
    ROTFLOL   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 01:34:15 -0800) From: "Bob Gezelter" <gezelter@rlgsc.com> 9 Subject: Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server B Message-ID: <1166607255.535961.187890@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>  / On Dec 19, 6:05 pm, dool...@snowy.net.au wrote:  > mooneydl wrote: J > > We have a VMS server located in the U.S. Eastern Time zone (GMT-05:00)J > > hosting an application used in the U.S., Switzerland (GMT+01:00),  andJ > > Japan (GMT+09:00). Some dates and times need to be shown in the user'sJ > > local time zone. What libraries can be used to take a date and time asF > > expressed in one time zone and express it in a different time zoneF > > while accounting for the different starting and ending periods for3 > > daylight saving time in the various time zones?  >  > > Thanks, M > > DanSearch this newsgroup for a thread posted on 4 April 2001 on "datesim"  > Phil   Phil,   F Needless to say, it is important to ensure that the application itself@ keeps its internal information (e.g., transaction times, journalB records, audit trails) in a standard time zone (often, I recommendF UTC/Zulu/GMT). You can use a local time, but within a data collection, it must be consistent.  ? The original posting mentioned a common application, but it was G ambiguous as to whether the databases were shared between the different  groups.   $ - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 08:51:49 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 9 Subject: Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server 3 Message-ID: <+xsAfw0yL3u7@eisner.encompasserve.org>   k In article <1166545625.506816.94300@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>, "mooneydl" <mooneydl@hotmail.com> writes: H > We have a VMS server located in the U.S. Eastern Time zone (GMT-05:00)H > hosting an application used in the U.S., Switzerland (GMT+01:00),  andH > Japan (GMT+09:00). Some dates and times need to be shown in the user'sH > local time zone. What libraries can be used to take a date and time asD > expressed in one time zone and express it in a different time zoneD > while accounting for the different starting and ending periods for1 > daylight saving time in the various time zones?   E    The is built into the C run time library.  See the C RTL utilities     manual for starters.    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 11:16:10 +0100C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) 6 Subject: Re: Open sourced  VMS as a business concept ?2 Message-ID: <45890d6a$1@merkur.rz.uni-konstanz.de>  A In article <d023b$45873c5d$cef8887a$20091@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei ' <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes: J >With a larger-than-expected number of VMS engineers no longer working forI >>the current owner of VMS, but apparently still controlling some of the  K >source they contributed,  isn't this a low process of open sourcing VMS to 
 >>hobbyists ?  > J >Perhaps a plan might be for HP to keep the core kernel, and then give allD >>the rest to former engineers/hobbyists ?   Consider long forgotten
 >products H >like TPU that might finally get some additions should they be given to J >hobbyists. But with reduced engineering, the remaining engineers can onlyI >>sprou out new versions of VMS if they only touch more and more limited   >areas of the kernel.  >   : Did someone ever heard what the Turin University produced:  4 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/news/ospp_turin.html  ????   Eberhard   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 06:43:23 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 5 Subject: Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ? 3 Message-ID: <Xm8e4kEger+b@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <458923e5$0$140$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" <spam@dweeb.net> writes: > Rob Brooks wrote:   G >> Most of those above components (DECnet, WANDD, Motif, CDE), while at E >> one time *maintained but not owned* by EDS under contract with us, " >> are now maintained by us again. > = > Really ?!?!?!  That is news.  So what does EDS still have ?   6 XD-Ada - http://www.swep-eds.com/XD%20Ada/Xd%20ada.htm   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 04:55:57 -0800! From: "Ian Miller" <gxys@uk2.net> 5 Subject: Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ? B Message-ID: <1166619357.839615.295530@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>  * The HP EDS contract ended over a year ago.  F XD-ADA was jointly developed by EDS and Digital and is still supported7 and developed by EDS. A port to Itanium is in progress.   B They have various other products, and announced that their CORAL66" compiler is ported to Itanium VMS.  9 http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=06/04/04/7269448    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 06:22:17 -0800! From: "Ian Miller" <gxys@uk2.net> 5 Subject: Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ? C Message-ID: <1166624537.019641.265990@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   # ACMS is now supported by a HP team.    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 08:46:52 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ' Subject: Re: The Hole in Cerner's Logic 3 Message-ID: <CgsnC$GJ1jJt@eisner.encompasserve.org>   i In article <c7a30$45886b6b$cef8887a$23947@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:  > Bob Koehler wrote:G >>    To meet the spec, they must prove that the design is appropriate. : >>    You can't meet the spec if your system doesn't work. >  > N > Lets remember that Windows powered  military ship that was immobilised when  > windows crashed. >   C    I don't think the government specified Windows on that one.  The G    system clearly didn't meet any reasonable spec.  I do know of places E    where the government specs MS.  The results of those specs are the     government's fault.   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 01:38:23 -0800! From: "Ian Miller" <gxys@uk2.net> 3 Subject: Re: Tools to rebuild corrupt indexed files B Message-ID: <1166607503.058207.147960@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>  * DIX may also be useful to look at the file http://oooovms.dyndns.org/dix/   See also8 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware60/rms_tools/   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:48:18 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>3 Subject: Re: Tools to rebuild corrupt indexed files G Message-ID: <0e2dne_-3pTO9BTYnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>    JF Mezei wrote: I > What tools exist on VMS to traverse and extract records from a corrupt   > indexed file ?  
 RMS, for one.   I If you can't read the file sequentially beyond some point, start probing  G randomly beyond that key range (possibly aided by the information from  A ANALYZE) until you reach a portion that's readable, read forward  I sequentially as far as you can, rinse, repeat.  (I forget whether RMS-32  I will read *backward* in primary-key order, but if there's only one range  F of unreadable primary data-level buckets to work around that would do I the job too.)  If there's corruption in the primary index levels as well  G as the primary data level but there's an alternate index to work with,  G use that to probe for primary data-level buckets that aren't otherwise  G reachable.  If it's important enough, you might even be able to kludge  G up RMS RFAs from the ANALYZE output and use those to reach uncorrupted  < primary data-level buckets that weren't otherwise reachable.   - bill   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Dec 2006 08:11:12 -0800# From: "Galen" <gltackett@gmail.com> L Subject: Re: Yours for the asking: Digital Storage Technology Handbook, 1989A Message-ID: <1166631072.839838.80100@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>   % And the winner of the free book is...    Robert Gezelter!   Thanks for playing, Bob.  8 On Dec 19, 8:31 pm, "Galen" <gltack...@gmail.com> wrote:F > Sorry that message got cut off. If you're interested in this sort ofI > thing, you probably already know what's in the book anyway. Let me know $ > here if you want more information. > K > > You can read in it about Digital Storage Architecture (DSA) ESE20 solid J > > state disks, RA90, RZ55, TUA81, and TK70 drives. There's also material > > on old SDI and   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.699 ************************