1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 22 Dec 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 703       Contents: Audio Cast #2 is now available Re: CSWB: open in THIS tab- GLIB 2.12.6 for OpenVMS Alpha 8.2 - GNV style , Re: Hobbyist PAK (whining, minor) complaints Re: lpr printer and Landscape 0 Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server0 Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server0 Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server- Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers , Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ?, RE: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ?- Re: VMS Alpha V8.3 v. USB flash storage gizmo - Re: VMS Alpha V8.3 v. USB flash storage gizmo  Re: Wiki server for VMS? Re: Wiki server for VMS?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2006 08:27:52 -0800) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> ' Subject: Audio Cast #2 is now available B Message-ID: <1166804872.186656.165310@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>  4 http://www.openvms.org/podcast/OWAU-2006-12-22-2.mp3  D The first audio cast had over 1010 down loads which does not include, the folks that copied it to their web sites.  
 Warm Regards,  Sue    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:09:35 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> # Subject: Re: CSWB: open in THIS tab 0 Message-ID: <4v2hulF1a7n5fU1@mid.individual.net>  F On 2006-12-22 15:14, "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" wrote:   > [...]  > & > Is there any way to do this in CSWB?  H I don't have a Mozilla installation currently running and the hint belowA is from SeaMonkey (v1.0.6) but the two programs seem to be _very_ + similar. (At least for the near future ...)   G > Another means to the same end would be to somehow get the browser to  7 > ignore the code specifying a new window to be opened.   D "Edit" -> "Preferences" -> "Navigator" -> "Tabbed Brwosing" -> "LinkI open behavior" has options for "Open links meant to open a new window..."    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:16:55 -0500 - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> 6 Subject: GLIB 2.12.6 for OpenVMS Alpha 8.2 - GNV style; Message-ID: <PJGdnRlT26WBmBHYnZ2dnUVZ_oOonZ2d@adelphia.com>   I This is a packaging and port of GLIB 2.12.6 built for use with GNV style  0   build environments and packaged in a PCSI kit.  G The 2.12.6 kit was released for other platforms on December 18th 2007,  ( and I downloaded it yesterday afternoon.   [from README.] GLib is the low-level coreD library that forms the basis for projects such as GTK+ and GNOME. ItA provides data structure handling for C, portability wrappers, and D interfaces for such runtime functionality as an event loop, threads,& dynamic loading, and an object system.   The official ftp site is:     ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk   The official web site is:     http://www.gtk.org/ [/from README]  G Glib is used for many programs including GTK+ 2.x, and at this time is  G licensed under the LGPL license which is less restrictive than the GPL   license.  I This library was built with _LARGEFILE support, and exact case universal  ) symbols in addition to uppercase symbols.   I A GLIB_STARTUP.COM file is put in the [VMS$COMMON.SYS$STARTUP] directory  I of the installation disk.  This file installs the shared images and sets  I up logical names for the GLIB library to work and also for the installed   utilities to work.  F This package depends on the GETTEXT package, and works best if the HP 1 I18N optional character set package is installed.   / Documentation is provided in HTML and manpages.   0 This package is at: ftp://encompasserve.org/gnv/  -     jem-axpvms-glib-a0212-6-1.pcsi_compressed !     jem-axpvms-glib-a0212-6-1.zip   E For Mozilla, I need to use the SAVE LINK TARGET AS menu option after   right clicking on the file.   E You may need to rename it to be pcsi$compressed after downloading it.   I The zip file will expand to a PCSI$COMPRESSED kit, if that is easier for   downloading.   Special notes:  I This library, like other UNIX code may generate filenames with non-ASCII  = characters using UTF-8 character encoding.  The HP CRTL will  E transparently handle UTF-8 format file specifications in UNIX syntax.   G However, some OpenVMS layered products will use VTF-7 encoding for the  G non-ASCII characters, and those products may have trouble finding file  2 specifications using UTF-8 character set encoding.  E VTF-7 file specifications can not be expressed in UNIX format unless  G they are translated to UTF-8.  This means that programs that expect to  H see UNIX format file specifications may not be able to access filenames  using VTF-7 encoding.   H Neither this port of GLIB or the HP CRTL currently will translate VTF-7 @ file specifications to or from UNIX format UTF-8 specifications,  C As ODS-5 can handle either VTF-7 or UTF-8 encodings, it can not be  G completely automatically determined by a program as to if a UTF-8 file  H specification should be translated to VTF-7 or simply passed through as  UTF-8.  G This is also something that who ever is maintaining ZIP/UNZIP or other  H UNIX programs on OpenVMS needs to take into account in order to provide  full EFS character set support.     I If you build this kit from source using the instructions provided, there  H are a number of LINK and SED failures.  This is from a recent change in C LIBTOOL which is dependent on GCC really being present, and always  I trying to collect some information from it that is not being used in the   OpenVMS build.    H The g_poll() function should support X11, sockets, terminals and pipes. H   Terminals and sockets have not yet been specifically tested.  The GTK I 2.X + demonstration programs (not provided with this kit) do verify that  " pipes and X11 event handling work.  F If porting a X-11 or DECWindows - MOTIF application, you need to make A sure that no socket, terminal, or pipe is assigned the same file  ; descriptor number as is used for the X-11 Motif event flag.   H It appears that this event flag may be numbered from 24 to 31.  Opening D a file descriptor to "NLA0:" and using dup2() to assign it to these G numbers should prevent conflicts.  This can be done with out modifying  I the common source code by using a wrapper to the main() function using a  . file included with the /first_include feature.  H The gspawn options are all implemented, and inside the OpenVMS specific G source code, it shows how to implement wrappers to poll() and select()  7 that work on terminals, pipes, X11 events, and sockets.      -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    --  < Need a senior system engineer?  I am looking for employment.: http://encompasserve.org/~malmberg/MALMBERG_CS1_RESUME.TXT   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2006 10:29:05 -0800 From: davidc@montagar.com 5 Subject: Re: Hobbyist PAK (whining, minor) complaints B Message-ID: <1166812145.642843.312470@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Steven M. Schweda wrote:G > 1.  E-mail response is slower than might be expected.  I put in about G > ten requests at one time.  The responses arrived over a span of about 0 > ten hours (local times are US CST = UTC-6:00): > 1 >       Arrived: 20-DEC-2006 17:23:17.31, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:22:59 -05001 >       Arrived: 20-DEC-2006 17:23:18.38, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:23:09 -05001 >       Arrived: 20-DEC-2006 18:53:49.68, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:23:27 -05001 >       Arrived: 20-DEC-2006 19:54:12.17, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:23:35 -05001 >       Arrived: 20-DEC-2006 22:24:35.78, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:23:41 -05001 >       Arrived: 20-DEC-2006 23:24:52.77, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:23:47 -05001 >       Arrived: 21-DEC-2006 01:25:17.36, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:24:30 -05001 >       Arrived: 21-DEC-2006 01:56:02.75, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:24:58 -05001 >       Arrived: 21-DEC-2006 01:56:03.51, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:24:38 -05001 >       Arrived: 21-DEC-2006 03:57:52.21, saying: P > Received: by montagar.com (MX V5.4) with SITE; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:26:59 -0500 > J >    So, it appears that all the messages were generated at about the sameG > time, but the e-mail forwarding from the birds (pelican.montagar.com, I > raven.montagar.com) was unreasonably retarded after the first couple of  > messages.   D Not sure what I can do about that.  I'm going to retire "the birds",G since they are being replaced by DS10L's.  That might help, but some of F the issue could be due to spam loading...  I had 27,000 spams rejected  by spamhaus.org yesterday alone.    @ >    2.  It would be nice if the comments ("COMPAQ HOBBY LICENSEJ > AGREEMENT", "LICENSE TERMS", and so on) were formatted so that the linesH > were shorter than, say, 73 characters.  (Is my punched card experienceF > showing?)  It would make editing a bit easier, and, as I recall, oneA > fellow recently had problems with an e-mail client wrapping the & > over-long lines in unfortunate ways.  G Okay, I can look at that.  I think it was originally within 80 columns, : but adding the "$! " comment pushed a couple of lines out.  G >    3.  I miss the /HARDWARE_ID=serial_number qualifier in the LICENSE F > REGISTER commands.  I have a bunch of these things to deal with, andA > that made it easier to keep them straight without making me add  > comments.   D Is that missing?  It should be in the Base O/S PAK's but the LayeredB Products can be loaded on any system/cluster for all participating nodes and have no hardware id.  I >    4.  The /TERMINATION dates keep marching backward from year to year, H > because the PAKs are dated exactly one year fron issuance, and I don'tI > like to wait until the last day to request a fresh set.  I've gone from D > 15-FEB-2002 to 16-FEB-2003 (oops) to 11-FEB-2004 to 23-JAN-2005 toC > 24-DEC-2005 (that was a mistake, as I discovered a year later) to B > 25-DEC-2006 (oops, again) to 20-DEC-2007.  If the exact one-yearG > interval were boosted a bit, perhaps to 54 weeks or so, it might help - > avoid marching back into a holiday (again).   F Reasonable...  I'll look into extending the date a couple of weeks.  I0 don't think there will be any complains from HP.  = >    Yes, if I were clever, I'd have a procedure checking for H > soon-to-expire PAKs, but it'd still be nice to get a whole year plus a > bit before death sets in.   D As David D. pointed out, a wget command could do this, or lynx.  YouF can use "GET" or "POST" method, but you could script out the post dataD into a series of files, and do "lynx --post-data" in a command file.  J >    I can't think of anything else at the moment, but there could be someJ > IA64-specific problems which aren't likely to affect me for a long time.6 > Some other whiner will need to complain about those.  / So far, I haven't gotten any IA64 complaints...    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:30:58 GMT % From: Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com> & Subject: Re: lpr printer and LandscapeD Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0612221127410.4188@localhost.localdomain>  , On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, David J Dachtera wrote:   > Rob Brown wrote: >>D >> I don't know how "lpr printer" fits into all of this, but "forms @ >> and libraries" is the way to give you landscape and portrait ? >> capabilities. On my system here, I have the following forms   >> defined:  >> >> $ sho que/form  > A > Try adding /FULL, then post the new output. That would be more   > illustrative.    OK.    $ sho que/form/full 9 Form name                            Number   Description 9 ---------                            ------   ----------- J HP_L10 (stock=DEFAULT)                    4   HP LaserJet Landscape 10 CPII      /LENGTH=66 /MARGIN=(BOTTOM=6) /SETUP=(HP_LANDSCAPE10) /STOCK=DEFAULT       /TRUNCATE /WIDTH=106   J HP_L12 (stock=DEFAULT)                    5   HP LaserJet Landscape 12 CPII      /LENGTH=66 /MARGIN=(BOTTOM=6) /SETUP=(HP_LANDSCAPE12) /STOCK=DEFAULT       /TRUNCATE /WIDTH=132   O HP_L16 (stock=DEFAULT)                    6   HP LaserJet Landscape 16.66 CPI 8 2                                                LPII      /LENGTH=66 /MARGIN=(BOTTOM=6) /SETUP=(HP_LANDSCAPE16) /STOCK=DEFAULT       /TRUNCATE /WIDTH=176   I HP_P10 (stock=DEFAULT)                    1   HP LaserJet Portrait 10 CPI H      /LENGTH=66 /MARGIN=(BOTTOM=6) /SETUP=(HP_PORTRAIT10) /STOCK=DEFAULT      /TRUNCATE /WIDTH=80  I HP_P12 (stock=DEFAULT)                    2   HP LaserJet Portrait 12 CPI H      /LENGTH=66 /MARGIN=(BOTTOM=6) /SETUP=(HP_PORTRAIT12) /STOCK=DEFAULT      /TRUNCATE /WIDTH=102   P HP_P16 (stock=DEFAULT)                    3   HP LaserJet Portrait 16.66 CPI 8 L1                                                PI H      /LENGTH=66 /MARGIN=(BOTTOM=6) /SETUP=(HP_PORTRAIT16) /STOCK=DEFAULT      /TRUNCATE /WIDTH=136    --    B Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o m6 G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (780)438-9343 (voice)4 Edmonton                         (780)437-3367 (FAX)2                                   http://gmcl.com/   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:00:18 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com 9 Subject: Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server 0 Message-ID: <87ejqs13x9.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  5 David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> writes:    > davidc@montagar.com wrote:    >> mooneydl wrote:  K >> > We have a VMS server located in the U.S. Eastern Time zone (GMT-05:00) K >> > hosting an application used in the U.S., Switzerland (GMT+01:00),  and K >> > Japan (GMT+09:00). Some dates and times need to be shown in the user's K >> > local time zone. What libraries can be used to take a date and time as G >> > expressed in one time zone and express it in a different time zone G >> > while accounting for the different starting and ending periods for 4 >> > daylight saving time in the various time zones?   H >> Look at the SYS$TIMEZONE* logical names.  Although they are typicallyH >> set in the SYSTEM table, you might be able to set them in the PROCESS* >> or JOB tables to localize the timezone.  Q > When I read the o.p., the first thought through my head suggested new fields in M > the UAF record: UAF$TZ_mumble so that the RTLs could be adjusted to display R > system time in the user's timezone while still storing UTC values. Lacking this,: > the default would, of course, be the SYS$TIMEZONE* data.  D BZZZT wrong!. I can be in another timezone in a few minutes. I fact,= with a small application of perversity I could be in multiple  timezones at once.  D It is much more likely that the terminal/keyboard is not going to beF roaming so. TZ<mumble> would be better living off/in the terminal UCB.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2006 09:27:25 -0800- From: "Doug Phillips" <dphill46@netscape.net> 9 Subject: Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server C Message-ID: <1166808445.428671.315660@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    prep@prep.synonet.com wrote:7 > David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> writes:  >  > > davidc@montagar.com wrote: >  > >> mooneydl wrote: > M > >> > We have a VMS server located in the U.S. Eastern Time zone (GMT-05:00) M > >> > hosting an application used in the U.S., Switzerland (GMT+01:00),  and M > >> > Japan (GMT+09:00). Some dates and times need to be shown in the user's M > >> > local time zone. What libraries can be used to take a date and time as I > >> > expressed in one time zone and express it in a different time zone I > >> > while accounting for the different starting and ending periods for 6 > >> > daylight saving time in the various time zones? > J > >> Look at the SYS$TIMEZONE* logical names.  Although they are typicallyJ > >> set in the SYSTEM table, you might be able to set them in the PROCESS, > >> or JOB tables to localize the timezone. > S > > When I read the o.p., the first thought through my head suggested new fields in O > > the UAF record: UAF$TZ_mumble so that the RTLs could be adjusted to display T > > system time in the user's timezone while still storing UTC values. Lacking this,< > > the default would, of course, be the SYS$TIMEZONE* data. > F > BZZZT wrong!. I can be in another timezone in a few minutes. I fact,? > with a small application of perversity I could be in multiple  > timezones at once. > F > It is much more likely that the terminal/keyboard is not going to beH > roaming so. TZ<mumble> would be better living off/in the terminal UCB. >   F You are absolutely correct. The user can move easier than the terminal1 --- except now many traveling users have laptops.   E Identifying the physical terminal isn't that easy these days. So many A different kinds of access.  Strict rules have to be followed when G setting up new terminal devices or chaos soon takes over. Even a simple B TELNET access from one station can be setup to show a static IP, aG changing IP, a unique node/station name, a shared node/station name, or E nothing static or unique, and probably other combinations of things I F haven't remembered. Then, factor all of the other types of connections6 and what was once simple, now seems nearly impossible.  C So, until each station or user gets a GPS chip, there is no perfect D solution. And, I can think of a few folks here who wouldn't go along with a GPS solution.   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2006 12:32:35 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 9 Subject: Re: Multiple time zones from a single VMS server 3 Message-ID: <wYl760h12xkt@eisner.encompasserve.org>   f In article <458C153A.86E12CE5@spam.comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> writes:  N > The fields in the UAF are, as always, only login-time defaults and should beQ > changeable using SET PROCESS[/TIMEZONE=mumble] (should probably be an AUDITable 	 > event).   H I see no reason to audit something that is merely a user display assist.; File metadata should be in a constant timezone (I use GMT).  --  N ==============================================================================0 DoD Instruction 8500.2 field test sites wanted -- 	http://www.LJK.com/LJK/8500_2_fieldtest.html N ==============================================================================   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:16:50 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>6 Subject: Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers* Message-ID: <SvMih.4109$Iy5.3552@trnddc01>   JF Mezei wrote:  > Ken.and.Ann@gmail.com wrote: > I >>    Very similar to the thread  "DHCP client - Help configuring.", from  >  >  > The short answer:  > I > -make your VMS machine a fixed IP machine. And forget about DHCP. That  	 > simple.  >  > step:  > ' > DELETE/CONFIRM SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$*.DAT  > H > It should delete the following files: (some of those may not exist on  > your system yet: >  > Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]  > > > TCPIP$CONFIGURATION.DAT;1               TCPIP$HOST.DAT;1     > TCPIP$NETWORK.DAT;1 = > TCPIP$PROXY.DAT;1   TCPIP$ROUTE.DAT;1   TCPIP$SERVICE.DAT;1  > 0 > This zaps your TCPIP configuration completely. > * > Choose a private IP subnet for your LAN. >  > Your choises are in:E > 10.0.0.0/8      (aka: 10.*.*.*  with only first 8 bits significant)  > 172.16.0.0/12  > 192.168.0.0/16 >   E I have the same model Linksys (actually, there were multiple hardware ? versions, and at some point, I think the firmware was no longer @ compatible, but all the BEFSR41s are pretty similar) and VerizonB DSL, and all my VAXes work okay through it, so the problems should be solvable.  : The Linksys router defaults to 192.168.1.1 (IIRC, or maybeB 192.168.0.1).  If you hard-code some other address into your AlphaD in that subnet, the Linksys should route for it, and the DHCP serverH in the Linksys should notice that something on the LAN is using whateverD address you chose for your Alpha, and not try to serve it to anotherC client.  (At least, that's the impression I got one time when I had D bollixed it up, and it continued to work better than I could explainD otherwise.  Other evidence:  I have my LAN set to run on 192.168.5.0F for various reasons, but a couple of times when updating the firmware,I the LINKSYS reset itself to the factory defaults and I had to reconfigure D it.  This meant it was back to 192.168.1 (0?).1 and DHCP-serving theC whole subnet, and I couldn't get into it to change things back, but D by reseting the IP address on one of my computers to another addressD in that LAN, I could browse to the Linksys and fix it.  It was happyD to talk to the browser despite the fact it hadn't served the address the browser was using.)     @ One way to determine the address being used by the Linksys is to> ping 192.168.0.0 and 192.168.1.0 and see if anything responds.? The Linksys router should respond with the .1 address on one of A these subnets.  (Most hosts will respond to a broadcast ping, and ? the ping program will display all the responses, so its an easy > way of inventorying a LAN.  You can't tell what the hosts are,= but you can tell how many of them and what addresses they are  using.)     F > (I think there are a couple others but those are the main IP blocks ) > reserved for private use within a LAN).  >  > K > The last one seems to be the most common for consumer routers's defaults   > IPs. > H > Your router's documentation should provide you with the default IP of K > your router. Lets assume for a minute that it is 192.168.0.1 for safe of  K > discussion.  a 16 bit subnet means a 255.255.0.0 network mask. (first 16   > bits set to 1).  >   H The Linksys uses 255.255.255.0 (/24).  I think it's 192.168.1.1, but I'm not certain.    I > With this in mind, let say you choose 192.168.0.23 for your VMS host's   > primary IP interface.  > 4 > You already know 2 IPs for your ISP's DNS service.+ >  >   Servers:    220.233.0.4, 220.233.0.3  > M > With this information, you are reading to go into @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$CONFIG   A Before zapping all the config files, and re-running TCPIP$CONFIG, C did you already run it the first time?  Lots of TCPIP configuration B problems seem to be from people installing it and then diving into= the various configuration stuff without first running through @ TCPIP$CONFIG, which seems to set up some things that there is noA other way of initializing.  In particular, I think it creates the E config files JF mentions above.  It also creates various VMS accounts E used by some (but not all) of the TCPIP clients and servers.  I don't D think the DNS client (resolver) needs a special VMS account, but the DNS server definitely does.   @ Anyway, the error message about insufficient date to enable BIND> (which is the DNS server) leads me to think it hasn't been set> up with TCPIP$CONFIG, so I would walk through it and make sureA all the needed server and client components have been configured. ? If your not sure about something, you can enable it (which also ? creates the accounts, directories, etc. when done for the first @ time), and then disable it (which leaves around the accounts and= directories in case they are needed later.)  Particularly the  DNS client and the DNS server.   > + > and then configure your core environment: ? > domain: chocolate.com (or anything you want that makes sense)  > * > Configure your primary interface to haveJ > IP: 192.168.0.23   with a /16 CIRD network or 255.255.0.0 network mask ) >   H I'm 99.99% sure this should be 255.255.255.0 for the Linksys, only about 65% sure it's 192.168.1.*   H > It may also prompt you for a host name. For instance "pastry". (which M > will be pastry.chocolate.com as fully qualified host name) inside your LAN)  >  > J > For routing,  choose NO for ROUTED or GATED routing. You can then enter G > a default route (gateway in PC parlance), and give the ip address of  - > your router. (192.168.0.1 in this example).  >  >    Check.  I > You then define the bind resolver. You can then enter the two IPs from  H > your ISP as bind servers. It may prompt you for host names (which get @ > defined in the hosts database to point to those IP addresses). >   A Don't remember if it asks for host names.  It might, but they are @ definitely not needed for name resolution.  In fact, it *has* to@ use the IP addresses, because if it only knew the host names, it4 couldn't resolve them to locate the name servers :-)   > G > You should then have enough configured to have a working TCPIP stack.  >  > Once the start has started:  > E > @SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$DEFINE_COMMAND  defines a whole bunch of "unix"   > commands.  > 9 > ifconfig -a   (lists your IP interfaces (IP addresses).  > ping <ip address> & > traceroute <ip address or host name> > & > Some additional things you could do: > + > TCPIP SET HOST ROUTER/ADDRESS=192.168.0.1  > I > This way, you can "telnet ROUTER" or "telnet router.chocolate.com" and   > you connect to that router.   ? My Linksys doesn't talk telnet, just HTTP as far as I can tell.   G BTW, when you become able to talk to the Linksys, be sure to change its F password and disable remote administration.  (I think they changed the5 default from "enabled" to "disabled", but make sure!)      > J > NOte that in all of the above, you have not configured a BIND *SERVER*, E > only a bind resolver.  The TCPIP SET NAME command can be confising  G > because some qualifiers apply to a configured bind server while most   > apply to the bind resolver.  >   E Do you have one of the newer, "smart" DSL modems?  The old ones, like J the Westell I have, didn't do PPTP so I had to set that up in the Linksys,J but it sounds like your past that point.  The newer ones (Actiontec, whichG has a built-in wireless router, and the newer small non-wireless one my I mom has (which may also be a Westell, or maybe a different brand, I can't E remember), can be configured to act like the older Westells (where it J just forwards its LAN-side ethernet to the DSL, so the PPTP authenticationG has to be done by a host or router on the LAN), or can be configured to F function both as a DSL modem and as a single-port router, and does theD PPTP for you.  When I set up my mom's DSL, she had only a Mac, whichE the Verizon-supplied CD doesn't support, so I called the installation H help 800 number, and they walked me through connecting to the DSL modem/K router and switching it to the right mode, and setting up the PPTP username D and password.  Took just a minute.  I don't know why they don't just> include the instructions in the paperwork, it was easy enough.  A (One of the two modes I describe above it called bridge mode, the B first one, I think, which should be a useful term for Googling...)  E Anyway, if you are using one of the newer "smart" modems, the Linksys E should work fine (it will acquire its WAN IP address from the modem's B DHCP server), and will properly forward packets both ways, but youC won't be able to get to the modem for managing it, especially if it C chose the same 192.168.*.0 subnet that the Linksys uses by default. A To fix this, probably the best thing is to connect to the Linksys G (once you've got it working), and change its LAN address to a different D subnet.  This will break your connection to it, and you will need to? reset the address on your Alpha to something in the new subnet. @ Connect back to the Linksys and enable forwarding to the modem's@ subnet.  Since it is also a 192.168.*.0 subnet, forwarding to itA is disabled by default, along with all the other private subnets. @ I don't recall the procedure to enable forwarding, maybe all you? need to do is explicitly define a static route to it on the WAN  interface in the Linksys.   E Then you should be able telnet or http to the modem as well as to the ? router.  (The modem should still block 192.168.*.* packets from + getting past it and out onto the Internet.)    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:37:33 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)5 Subject: Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ? $ Message-ID: <emgjid$iol$2@online.de>  G In article <4v0rooF19qcqbU1@mid.individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill  Gunshannon) writes:   E > But my point was to show that no one has offered a Hobbyist Program E > that comes close to what we have with VMS. Most proprietary OSes do E > not allow Hobbyist use under any circumstances.  If you want to run C > it, buy a commercial license (as has been pointed out in a recent C > discussion in the PDP groups and for a while, cross-posted here.) G > Others, even though no longer offered for sale commerically are still J > specifically prohibited from hobbyist use (Primos).  Legitimate Hobbyist@ > use is extremely rare and we have the best there is to offer!!  & One has to agree with that, of course!   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:40:34 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> 5 Subject: RE: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ? T Message-ID: <FA60F2C4B72A584DBFC6091F6A2B868401F191AA@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----; > From: healyzh@aracnet.com [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com]=20 ! > Sent: December 21, 2006 2:46 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 7 > Subject: Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ?  >=20+ > Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote: 3 > > In article <emdd38$jsq$03$1@news.t-online.com>, 6 > >         Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer@gsi.de> writes: >=20& > > > RMS, that's Stallmann, I guess ?: > > > Come on, you're taking that much too serious. Relax. >=20  
 [snip ...]  H > > Sound like anyone else we know?  And people say proprietary OSes are > > a bad thing!!  >=20> > The problem is the people that write most of the code are=20 > familiar with two ? > OS's, Linux and Windows.  Most have probably never touched=20  > another OS.=20A > Personally, most things I write these days need to run on at=20 
 > least three  > different operating systems. >=20 > 		Zane >=20  D Well, imho, the larger issue is the growing disconnect between thoseA writing applications and the various internal groups that need to . support them i.e. Operations, QA, Testing etc.  ; How many of those writing applications these days take into  consideration:  < - monthly security patching which means re-testing importantA applications with these security patches. How many App developers C actually even worry about OS or App security patches as that is the  "Operations" group worry?   G - massive server consolidation initiatives which means longer distances E (latency, bandwidth issues etc) between end users and the servers new 
 target sites.   0 - much higher security and regulatory influences  E - how to backup their applications in rapidly shrinking maint windows D e.g. lottieries and exchanges and other Internet global apps heading3 towards 24x7x365 operations so App can not go down.   E - How to ensure their Application does not call any HW specific calls F like time, physical devices etc that would make it extremely difficult  to virtualize their application?  G - How to ensure their app is cluster aware so that multi-site solutions A can be easily implemented to handle their companies exponentially ! increasing DT/DR/BC requirements.   B Imho, the truly well designed app's of the future can no longer beD designed in a vacuum. They must take all of the above Operations andF Infrastructure issues into consideration. Unfortunately this will alsoE require much closer communications between the various groups and for ' many companies that is a big challenge.   D Btw, while Open Source and free OS's will continue to play a role inC some environments, I am also seeing a new trend developing in large H accounts where Senior Managers do not want their Technical staff playingE in the OS weeds every month, but rather spending more time talking to H the BU's and business groups to better understand their requirements and: communicate how IT can add value to their bottom lines.=20     Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:51:59 GMT , From: Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com>6 Subject: Re: VMS Alpha V8.3 v. USB flash storage gizmo& Message-ID: <458C0773.F53B0A65@hp.com>   Steven  7 	To state the obvious what you are trying to do is not  C supported and will never be officially supported by HP.  OK, I had   to say that.  A 1) In theory what you are tryihg to do should work.  But USB mass E    devices are all different.  It appears that you particular memory  F    stick is not happy or not providing some data our USB mass storage D    driver wants.  If you want to send me the device I will see what F    the issue is an crank that into the driver and get you a new image.  D 2) Unplugging the device even if it is stuck in mount verify should E    not crash the system.  If you can get me the dump I will look into     getting that fixed as well.     Forrest Kenney HP OpenVMS group   "Steven M. Schweda" wrote: > I >    I've loaded VMS V8.3 (thanks for the download kit) and VMS83A_UPDATE H > V1.0 onto my spare/experimental XP1000 with its cheap Chinese USB card/ > (NEC chip).  There is no USB-related stuff in I > SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$USER_CONFIG.DAT.  I'm not trying to use the built-in USB G > chip.  When I plug in my Kingston USB flash memory gizmo (512MB), the I > UCM shows the event, and creates a DN device for it (all very much more , > convenient than the old days, by the way). > G >    Sadly, when I attempted to MOUNT /NOASSIST /FOREIGN the DN device, I > the process hung (for at least an hour with no sign of activity).  When J > (while the MOUNT was hung) I pulled the gizmo so I could try it on a MacB > (where it seemed to work just fine), the system crashed, with an8 > INVEXCEPTN ("exception while above ASTDEL") complaint. > J >    Am I missing some crucial bit of software, or should this be working?H > Anyone who's interested in additional data is welcome to request them.F > (Anyone who says that it'll never work on an XP1000 is welcome to my > undying enmity.) > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 5 >    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 6 >    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818 >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:50:02 -0800 ' From: David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu> 6 Subject: Re: VMS Alpha V8.3 v. USB flash storage gizmo+ Message-ID: <emh2bq$cp4$1@naig.caltech.edu>    Steven M. Schweda wrote:I >    I've loaded VMS V8.3 (thanks for the download kit) and VMS83A_UPDATE H > V1.0 onto my spare/experimental XP1000 with its cheap Chinese USB card > (NEC chip).   D Did you verify that the USB card works by plugging it into a PC and F testing it there?  I've used several similar NEC cards and while they D typically "just work" sometimes you'll hit a bad one.  In this case,& on VMS, that's one too many variables.   Regards,   David Mathog   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2006 01:09:42 -08009 From: "singhal.rishi@gmail.com" <singhal.rishi@gmail.com> ! Subject: Re: Wiki server for VMS? A Message-ID: <1166778582.747963.39410@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>    Hi Rich,  " I am running tiki (a wiki softwareB http://sourceforge.net/projects/tikiwiki/) on an OpenVMS V 8.3 I64 system.   B Apache, MySql & PHP should be installed on the system to run tiki.F After little modification of some config files we were finally able to make the wiki running.     Hope this helps, Rishi    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:34:53 -0800 % From: DeanW <dean.woodward@gmail.com> ! Subject: Re: Wiki server for VMS? H Message-ID: <3f119ada0612220934k1e0cfcb4r2adeb2e961e6984@mail.gmail.com>  F On 21 Dec 2006 08:08:59 -0800, Rich Jordan <jordan@ccs4vms.com> wrote:E > Has anyone gotten an open source Wiki running under VMS/Apache?  Is G > this something like other PHP (or Perl?) packages that can almost run 0 > without any modifications?  Database required?  B www.qwikiwiki.com- 100% PHP (no database required) running on WASDF with the WASDPHP kit. (IA64 / 8.3). No database required, so it likelyF won't scale up to wikipedia sizes, but for fast & light, I think it'll do fine.  F The goods: easy to modify the "get an account scheme" so that not just: anyone can apply for and immediately get write permission.  E The gotchas: I had to hard-code some path elements (PATH_INFO came up A null) to get it to install, and had to create it's subdirectories E manually. Spent some time closing down the permissions a little more. ? Knowing what I do now, I duplicated the install in ~15 minutes- ! including setting up PHP on WASD.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.703 ************************