1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 28 Dec 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 714       Contents: Re: "Big Grey Wall" in Chicago RE: "Big Grey Wall" in Chicago" Re: Audio Cast #2 is now available" Re: Audio Cast #2 is now available" Re: Audio Cast #2 is now available0 Re: Cluster connection lost when one link fails? Re: Dec VWS Internals ? " DECterm special escape sequences ?& Re: DECterm special escape sequences ?$ Re: DSSI and cluster quorum question$ Re: DSSI and cluster quorum question, Re: Hobbyist PAK (whining, minor) complaints, Re: Hobbyist PAK (whining, minor) complaints, Re: Hobbyist PAK (whining, minor) complaints- Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers - Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers - Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers - Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers 4 Re: Relationship between node numbers, alloclass etc4 Re: Relationship between node numbers, alloclass etc Updating the logo on DS10Ls : Who's crazier, HP C V7.1-015 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 or I?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:17:19 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> ' Subject: Re: "Big Grey Wall" in Chicago 1 Message-ID: <emuulb$had$1@news-02.connect.com.au>   	 Hi Jason,   3 "Jason T." <uzinet@chickencow.com> wrote in message 4 news:rqmdnRgJVZYOkg_YnZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@comcast.com...H > I am currently being smothered under the weight of what I believe is a- > nearly-complete set of VAX/VMS 5.x manuals.   H Evidently, the Israelis just can't get enough of them; the weightier andJ more smother-inducing the better. Try setting them up between your nearest9 colleague and the canteen, to see if they'll pass muster.    Regards Richard Maher   3 "Jason T." <uzinet@chickencow.com> wrote in message 4 news:rqmdnRgJVZYOkg_YnZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@comcast.com...H > I am currently being smothered under the weight of what I believe is aJ > nearly-complete set of VAX/VMS 5.x manuals.  Core OS, extras, maybe someJ > hardware...it's a whole lotta books, about 14 medium moving boxes worth. > D > I collect vintage computing hardware, books and such, but I can noI > longer house these here.  Is there any interest in the VMS community in ? > such artifacts?  I'd like to trade them for something equally F > interesting but substantially smaller, but my first priority is justI > saving them from the landfill and, preferably, keeping them together as  > a set. > G > Naturally shipping would be pretty much out of the question, but some E > travel could be possible for the right trade.  I'm in the northwest  > suburbs of Chicago.  > 	 > Thanks!  >  > --   > jht    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:09:33 -0500 @ From: "Koska, John C. \(LNG-ALB\)" <John.C.Koska@lexisnexis.com>' Subject: RE: "Big Grey Wall" in Chicago T Message-ID: <D8D507FABDE21843BD4BD5791ADCB12A022F39A6@LNGALBEXCP01VA.legal.regn.net>  B Apparently if your life depends on using a given operating system,' well...I gueess you use OpenVMS or VMS.   	 :) jck=20    > -----Original Message-----= > From: Richard Maher [mailto:maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com]=20 , > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:17 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com ) > Subject: Re: "Big Grey Wall" in Chicago  >=20 > Hi Jason,  >=208 > "Jason T." <uzinet@chickencow.com> wrote in message=206 > news:rqmdnRgJVZYOkg_YnZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@comcast.com...@ > > I am currently being smothered under the weight of what I=20 > believe is a=20 / > > nearly-complete set of VAX/VMS 5.x manuals.  >=20? > Evidently, the Israelis just can't get enough of them; the=20 @ > weightier and more smother-inducing the better. Try setting=20? > them up between your nearest colleague and the canteen, to=20  > see if they'll pass muster.  >=20 > Regards Richard Maher  >=208 > "Jason T." <uzinet@chickencow.com> wrote in message=206 > news:rqmdnRgJVZYOkg_YnZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@comcast.com...@ > > I am currently being smothered under the weight of what I=20 > believe is a=20 J > > nearly-complete set of VAX/VMS 5.x manuals.  Core OS, extras, maybe=20@ > > some hardware...it's a whole lotta books, about 14 medium=20 > moving boxes worth.  > > I > > I collect vintage computing hardware, books and such, but I can no=20 A > > longer house these here.  Is there any interest in the VMS=20  > community=20G > > in such artifacts?  I'd like to trade them for something equally=20 : > > interesting but substantially smaller, but my first=20 > priority is just=20 B > > saving them from the landfill and, preferably, keeping them=20
 > together=20 
 > > as a set.  > > 9 > > Naturally shipping would be pretty much out of the=20  > question, but some=20 J > > travel could be possible for the right trade.  I'm in the northwest=20 > > suburbs of Chicago.  > >  > > Thanks!  > >  > > -- > > jht  >=20 >=20   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:08:02 +0100 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> + Subject: Re: Audio Cast #2 is now available ; Message-ID: <6680a$459318f3$50db507e$16410@news.hispeed.ch>    healyzh@aracnet.com wrote:* > Sue <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> wrote: > 7 >> http://www.openvms.org/podcast/OWAU-2006-12-22-2.mp3  > G >> The first audio cast had over 1010 down loads which does not include / >> the folks that copied it to their web sites.  >  >> Warm Regards, >> Sue > M > Did anyone else have problems getting this to download?  I was finally able M > to get the complete file to download by pausing and restarting the download L > multiple times in Safari (Safari worked marginally better than Firefox forM > downloading it).  I downloaded the first on the night of 25th, and finished N > download of the second on the morning of 26th after letting it sit trying to > download all night.  >   0 It just downloaded OK here. 28-Jan-2007 2:00 CET   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:16:25 -0600 3 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> + Subject: Re: Audio Cast #2 is now available 0 Message-ID: <45933709.599E98E9@spam.comcast.net>   JF Mezei wrote:  > : > >>> http://www.openvms.org/podcast/OWAU-2006-12-22-2.mp3 > >>J > >>> The first audio cast had over 1010 down loads which does not include2 > >>> the folks that copied it to their web sites. > M > Shock, Horror, people downloading mp3s without paying for them... Watch for 6 > RIAA suing VMS customers who download those mp3s :-) > L > My impression is that it brings a sense of community with plenty of peopleH > who have a presence on c.o.v. speaking on the podcast.  And while thisK > doesn't let one put a face to a person's name, it does allow one to put a  > voice to his/her name !!!  > H > Is "myskwel" really the international pronounciation for MySQL ????? (> > always though it would be My S-Q-L.  Or is it a Hoffmanism ?   Some folks say, "my sequel".   > [snip]G > Another nitpick: sound volume wasn't quite the same from interview to * > interview. (This is tough to get right).   Say, "audio compander".    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2006 19:29:26 -0800; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> + Subject: Re: Audio Cast #2 is now available B Message-ID: <1167276566.560283.219390@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   healyzh@aracnet.com wrote:* > Sue <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> wrote: > 8 > > http://www.openvms.org/podcast/OWAU-2006-12-22-2.mp3 > H > > The first audio cast had over 1010 down loads which does not include0 > > the folks that copied it to their web sites. >  > > Warm Regards,  > > Sue  > M > Did anyone else have problems getting this to download?  I was finally able M > to get the complete file to download by pausing and restarting the download L > multiple times in Safari (Safari worked marginally better than Firefox forM > downloading it).  I downloaded the first on the night of 25th, and finished N > download of the second on the morning of 26th after letting it sit trying to > download all night.  >  > 		Zane  E I had no problem downloading it today (27-Dec-2006) using Firefox 2.0  on Mac OS X 10.4     John H. Reinhardt    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:22:08 -0700 1 From: "Jim Mehlhop (Parsec)" <mehlhop@parsec.com> 9 Subject: Re: Cluster connection lost when one link fails? ) Message-ID: <45930E30.3020209@parsec.com>   ( What version of VMS was this?  I forgot.     Volker Halle wrote:   
 > Malcolm, > G > our IPMT has been closed by providing a new SYS$EWDRIVER_DE500BA.EXE, A > so the problem seems to have been in the underlying LAN driver.  >  > Happy New Year,  > 	 > Volker.  >      --  
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 roger ivie rivie@ridgenet.net   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:08:29 -0500 . From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>- Subject: Re: DSSI and cluster quorum question 8 Message-ID: <521b4$4592e0ec$cef8887a$13342@TEKSAVVY.COM>   Michael Moroney wrote:G > with your configuration.  I'd suggest giving each system 1 vote each, C > you'd have a functional cluster with any 2 nodes up.  Unless this ( > configuration is temporary, of course.    K Actually, this dates back to a 2 node cluster with VELO running everything  K important. So I could reboot the workstation without shutting down service   to web server, mail etc.  J And yes, the voting scheme will be revisited very shortly now that I will J have 2 alphas and one vax left. But during the transition, I'll have some  weird configs.  J And thanks to Volker for confirming that DSSI also carries SCS. I thought 
 otherwise.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:39:03 +0000 # From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@vcn.com> - Subject: Re: DSSI and cluster quorum question 2 Message-ID: <1167255626_7669@sp6iad.superfeed.net>   JF Mezei wrote:  > Michael Moroney wrote: > H >> with your configuration.  I'd suggest giving each system 1 vote each,D >> you'd have a functional cluster with any 2 nodes up.  Unless this) >> configuration is temporary, of course.  >  >  > B > Actually, this dates back to a 2 node cluster with VELO running K > everything important. So I could reboot the workstation without shutting  ' > down service to web server, mail etc.  > G > And yes, the voting scheme will be revisited very shortly now that I  G > will have 2 alphas and one vax left. But during the transition, I'll   > have some weird configs. > D > And thanks to Volker for confirming that DSSI also carries SCS. I  > thought otherwise.   JF,   @ I think you were thinking of the KFQSA DSSI QBUS interface whichB does not carry SCS traffic. The VAX 4000 series DSSI buses are the real deal.  8-)    Jeff      Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:49:41 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) 5 Subject: Re: Hobbyist PAK (whining, minor) complaints Z Message-ID: <rdeininger-2712061350120001@dialup-4.233.173.60.dial1.manchester1.level3.net>  H In article <458fa0d0$1@news.langstoeger.at>, peter@langstoeger.at wrote:  B >In article <458EAB9B.6E8101B4@spam.comcast.net>, David J Dachtera$ <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> writes:L >>I find it a convenient place to store the serial number, since that is notP >>always available to/from the o.s. Otherwise, I'd be looking at the back of the >>machine every year.  > . >$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$GETSYI ("SERIAL_NUMBER") > 9 >on an Alpha (and on Itanic I suppose) for many years now ; >(after you filled it into the SRM variable SYS_SERIAL_NUM)   H There's no such SRM environment variable on some older Alpha systems, so- this method only works on a subset of alphas.   > I can't think of any reason to expect this to work on Itanium.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:50:26 -0600 3 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> 5 Subject: Re: Hobbyist PAK (whining, minor) complaints 0 Message-ID: <459330F2.384A6FCA@spam.comcast.net>   Paul Sture wrote:  >  > davidc@montagar.com wrote: > > D > > I'll add in an extra week.  Some DCL to parse the output of SHOWI > > LICENSE would probably do the trick, since it displays the expiration 	 > > date.  > >  > C > I have a bit of DCL which produces a tab delimited listing of the > > license file, if that is enough to get someone kick-started. > * > http://www.sture.ch/vms/license_list.txt  K The re-licensing proc. I'm working on needs a newer WGET that supports POST O method. I'm having trouble getting that to work on V7.2-2, so I guess I'll have A to finally upgrade to V7.3-2, re-install Multinet and apply ECOs.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:15:53 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)5 Subject: Re: Hobbyist PAK (whining, minor) complaints 2 Message-ID: <06122722155325_2020028F@antinode.org>  3 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net>   M > The re-licensing proc. I'm working on needs a newer WGET that supports POST Q > method. I'm having trouble getting that to work on V7.2-2, so I guess I'll have C > to finally upgrade to V7.3-2, re-install Multinet and apply ECOs.   G    I'd be (mildly) interested in what fails (and how).  The easy remedy G (if it hasn't already been tried and found wanting) might be to install 3 a modern C compiler, and follow the instructions in C SYS$LIBRARY:DECC$CRTL.README.  Actual complaints should include the 0 output from an executable built from DECC_VER.C.  A    Wget versions 1.9.* and up should, so far as I know, offer the F command-line options --post-data and --post-file.  Thus "a newer WGET" would be newer than mid-2004.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:26:30 +0000 # From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@vcn.com> 6 Subject: Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers2 Message-ID: <1167254873_7665@sp6iad.superfeed.net>   Ken.and.Ann@gmail.com wrote: > All, > H >    I've got a PWS 600au running VMS 7.3-1 and TCP/IP Services V5.3-ECO > 2, a hobbiest + > system I'm trying to put on the internet.  >    [large snip]  A (I've reposted this because the links I provided don't seem to be ) working. Hopefully the news are correct.)   F I too am running a PWS600au, VMS 7.3-1, TCPIP 5.3 ECO-2. I use a fixed@ addresses on network 10 for the machine but over the weekend andE Christmas I tried using the DHCP client. My DSL router is a Zoom ADSL  X6.   D The problem I ran into is that the Zoom ADSL acts as a DNS relay. ItG supplies it's own IP address as the name server address during the DHCP D configuration exchange. This address is obviously not the address of+ the BIND server I want for my local domain.   C When I configured the BIND resolver using TCPIP$CONFIG, I specified G the localhost, 127.0.0.1, as the server since I intended (as I normally B do) to run the BIND server locally. When I started TCPIP, the DHCPF client correctly picked up the leased IP address, the subnet mask, andA gateway address. It also picked up the domain and the name server  IP address.   & If you look at the log file I captured  ' <http://as600.n8wxs.com/web/pass_2.txt>   > you'll see (near the bottom 8-) that the DHCP client correctly@ sets the node name, as600.n8wxs.com. Also the DHCP log file does4 not complain about the BIND resolver being disabled.  = But, a $TCPIP SHOW HOST does complain about not being able to @ find the zone information (since of course the Zoom doesn't have it!)   The log file  ( <http://as600.n8wxs.com/web/pass_2a.txt>  A shows what happens when the machine is rebooted and TCPIP started  manually with no changes.   B The DHCP client again sets sets the various IP addresses including? the name server address. But, this time the node name is set to < unknown.n8wxs.com, and the software complains about the BIND resolver being disabled.  = For both of these experiments 8-) I removed (by renaming) the > client.pcy file in SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$DHCP]. According to the= fine manuals, the DHCP client will use default values for the B items requested in the client.pcy file if the file does not exist.  ? Obviously, the node name "unknown" is not the default contained  in the HOSTNAME. file!  ? The TCPIP permanent configuration has my original assignment of ? the localhost as the bind server. The DHCP client replaces that ' address with the Zoom supplied address.   @ Why doesn't the DHCP client *add* the Zoom's name server address? to the name server list instead of replacing the existing local  host entry??  < Likewise, the Zoom has no idea of the Alpha's node name. The= DHCP client does not send a host name to use to the Zoom. So, 5 why didn't the DHCP client read the HOSTNAME. file in < SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$DHCP] as it did before? The Zoom did not? supply a hostname either time as can be seen in the DHCPSHOWDHC  outputs.   Puzzled,   8-)  8-)    Jeff              Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:54:19 -0700 & From: Jim Mehlhop <Mehlhop@parsec.com>6 Subject: Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers5 Message-ID: <459307b2$0$3570$815e3792@news.qwest.net>   H This is why I use Multinet on my PWS500 for my home network DHCP server 9 and DNS server, then disable dhcp on my DSL modem/router.    Jim      Jeff Campbell wrote:   > Ken.and.Ann@gmail.com wrote: >  >> All,  >>I >>    I've got a PWS 600au running VMS 7.3-1 and TCP/IP Services V5.3-ECO  >> 2, a hobbiest, >> system I'm trying to put on the internet. >> >  > [large snip] > C > (I've reposted this because the links I provided don't seem to be + > working. Hopefully the news are correct.)  > H > I too am running a PWS600au, VMS 7.3-1, TCPIP 5.3 ECO-2. I use a fixedB > addresses on network 10 for the machine but over the weekend andG > Christmas I tried using the DHCP client. My DSL router is a Zoom ADSL  > X6.  > F > The problem I ran into is that the Zoom ADSL acts as a DNS relay. ItI > supplies it's own IP address as the name server address during the DHCP F > configuration exchange. This address is obviously not the address of- > the BIND server I want for my local domain.  > E > When I configured the BIND resolver using TCPIP$CONFIG, I specified I > the localhost, 127.0.0.1, as the server since I intended (as I normally D > do) to run the BIND server locally. When I started TCPIP, the DHCPH > client correctly picked up the leased IP address, the subnet mask, andC > gateway address. It also picked up the domain and the name server 
 > IP address.  > ( > If you look at the log file I captured > ) > <http://as600.n8wxs.com/web/pass_2.txt>  > @ > you'll see (near the bottom 8-) that the DHCP client correctlyB > sets the node name, as600.n8wxs.com. Also the DHCP log file does6 > not complain about the BIND resolver being disabled. > ? > But, a $TCPIP SHOW HOST does complain about not being able to B > find the zone information (since of course the Zoom doesn't have > it!) >  > The log file > * > <http://as600.n8wxs.com/web/pass_2a.txt> > C > shows what happens when the machine is rebooted and TCPIP started  > manually with no changes.  > D > The DHCP client again sets sets the various IP addresses includingA > the name server address. But, this time the node name is set to > > unknown.n8wxs.com, and the software complains about the BIND > resolver being disabled. > ? > For both of these experiments 8-) I removed (by renaming) the @ > client.pcy file in SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$DHCP]. According to the? > fine manuals, the DHCP client will use default values for the D > items requested in the client.pcy file if the file does not exist. > A > Obviously, the node name "unknown" is not the default contained  > in the HOSTNAME. file! > A > The TCPIP permanent configuration has my original assignment of A > the localhost as the bind server. The DHCP client replaces that ) > address with the Zoom supplied address.  > B > Why doesn't the DHCP client *add* the Zoom's name server addressA > to the name server list instead of replacing the existing local  > host entry?? > > > Likewise, the Zoom has no idea of the Alpha's node name. The? > DHCP client does not send a host name to use to the Zoom. So, 7 > why didn't the DHCP client read the HOSTNAME. file in > > SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$DHCP] as it did before? The Zoom did notA > supply a hostname either time as can be seen in the DHCPSHOWDHC 
 > outputs. >  > Puzzled,   8-)  8-)  >  > Jeff >  >  >  >  >  >  > I > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet   > News==----K > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+   > NewsgroupsM > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:11:59 -0600 3 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> 6 Subject: Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers0 Message-ID: <459335FF.E10CBDFE@spam.comcast.net>   JF Mezei wrote:  >  > David J Dachtera wrote: R > > My approach was to set up a home.djesys.com sub-domain and make the Jensen theN > > authoritative source for that. Then, I configure my ISP's name servers forQ > > forwarding requests that the Jensen can't resolve from its local information.  > M > I did that at first. Then, one day, my ISP's DNS servers were on the fritz, H > so I removed the "forwarders" in the BIND server config and let my DNS@ > server act like the big boys and go to the root all by itself. > I > Never bothered going back to having my DNS server use forwarders again.  > M > And the advantage of that setup is a LAN issued DNS request for your domain M > gets resolved locally and you feed it the local LAN side IP addresses.  And L > you can have plenty of extra definitions that you don't want to be public.% > (for instance, my SWITCH's IP etc).   ; Care to share the relevant portion of your named.conf file?    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:49:16 -0500 . From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>6 Subject: Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers7 Message-ID: <eec62$45933eda$cef8887a$3029@TEKSAVVY.COM>    David J Dachtera wrote: = > Care to share the relevant portion of your named.conf file?   G I don't have a named.conf file, but I do have a tcpip$bind.conf one ...    (my LAN's subnet is 10.*.*.* )  H And this is with the VAX BIND server (BIND 8). When I migrate to my new 0 alpha, I may consider converting this to bind 9.  E So basically, if I do a requests for  *.chocolate.ca , it goes to my   chocolate_ca.db.  K If i do a request for *.chocolate.dyndns.org , it goes to my dyndns_org.db.   I If I do a request for vanilla.dyndns.org, it goes out to the internet to  9 have it resolved by whoever is responsible for dyndns.org   H So i basically setup mini zone files for any domain who is hosted on my I machine. This way, when I make requests for such a domain, my DNS points  K back to my machines instead of going onto the net to have it resolved. (My  D routed doesn't look back when someone on the lan tries to access my  internet IP address).   L The "allow update" is so that teh DHCP server on my machines (when started) L can update the dns database with any guest's machine name onec they've been  granted a lease.    0 acl internal { 10.0.0.0/8 ; 206.248.136.122; } ;  	 options { '          directory "TCPIP$BIND_COMMON";           forward first;           };    zone "CHOCOLATE.CA" in {          type master;            file "CHOCOLATE_CA.DB";$          allow-update {  10.0.0.10 ;$                          10.0.0.11 ;                       } ;  };    zone "CHOCOLATE.DYNDNS.ORG" in {          type master;           file "DYNDNS_ORG.DB"; };     zone "10.IN-ADDR.ARPA" in {           type master; #          file "10_IN-ADDR_ARPA.DB"; $          allow-update {  10.0.0.10 ;$                          10.0.0.11 ;                       } ;  };  
 zone "." in {           type hint;           file "ROOT.HINT"; };   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:53:08 -0600 3 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> = Subject: Re: Relationship between node numbers, alloclass etc 0 Message-ID: <45933194.8DAE567E@spam.comcast.net>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  > B > In article <c76d9$458e9c26$cef8887a$1921@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei) > <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:  >  > > It is well known that the 8 > > SCSSYSTEMID = DECNET AREA*1024 + DECNET NODE NUMBER. > > E > > But the rest seems to be at the discretion of the system manager.  > > K > > Is is worth the trouble of trying to synchronise the DECNET node number  > > with the TCPIP address ? > > 8 > > (eg: decnet node 1.10, TCPIP would be xx.xx.xx.10 ?) > > O > > Is it also worth trying to synchronise the ALLOCLASS with a node number for  > > each node ?  > ' > I think that makes sense.  Let's see:  >  >    DECnet address/SCSSYSTEMID  >    allocation class  >    TCPIP address6 >    volume label (why not? DISK$ALPHASYS_133 anyone?) >    system root > H > Be careful since some of these are octal and the ranges are different.   The boot root is Hex, isn't it?    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:54:41 -0600 3 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> = Subject: Re: Relationship between node numbers, alloclass etc 0 Message-ID: <459331F1.722B9198@spam.comcast.net>   Michael Moroney wrote: > 2 > Ken Robinson <k_n_b_s_@nospam.rbnsn.com> writes: > " > >Michael Moroney wrote (n part): > E > >> $42$DKA0: on a second bus between nodes 2 and 4, etc.)  But with H > >> fibrechannel, alloclasses 1 (and 2 for tapes) probably shouldn't be
 > >> used. > B > >When using an EVA for storage the allocation class is always 1. > H > ...which is why I said alloclass 1 (and 2) probably shouldn't be used.  : Quite. DGAs are always $1$DGAx:. MGAs are always $2$MGAx:.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:56:23 -0500 . From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>$ Subject: Updating the logo on DS10Ls7 Message-ID: <c01fe$45934085$cef8887a$3903@TEKSAVVY.COM>   J With the hundreds of thousands of VMS hobbyists who have purchased DS10Ls  recently from Island:   L You can remove the red "Compaq" word on the faceplate of the machine. On my J first machine, I use some graphite lubricant to "paint" over it. (more or ! less same grey as the faceplate).   K On my second machine, I went all out and used ACETONE.  Used a Qtip dipped  H in acetone and gently slit it over the area where the despised "Compaq" K word was printed. Initially, no real effect, but within a few seconds, you  0 start seeing some red rubbing off onto the qtip.  7 You can then remove all traces of red from the plastic.   I Beware that you don't want too much acetone. It melts the pastic. So you  K need to be gentle. And once the red is removed, you need to let the plstic  G "dry" off (aka: let acetone in it evaporate to resolidify the softened  J plasti on surface). The finish isn't the "pearl" finish and is a bit more G glossy, and there may still be able to see some shapes of the now gone  ) letters, but from afar, it looks perfect.   K You can remove the faceplate prior to this cosmetic surgery by lifting the  L cover off and then using a small screwdriver to pus 2 pins out (towards the H front) which pushes the nameplate off. You just need to push it back in  once you are done.  F Now, I have to figure out how to make red Digital logos that could be  transfered onto the plastic :-)    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:43:45 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)C Subject: Who's crazier, HP C V7.1-015 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 or I? 2 Message-ID: <06122717434514_2020028F@antinode.org>  E    So there I was, building happily, when I got these unexpected LINK  complaints:   % %LINK-W-NUDFSYMS, 1 undefined symbol: ) %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         bz_internal_error ? %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol bz_internal_error referenced  [...]   G    Being confused, I changed a CC command to provide a source listing.  G This cured the LINK problem.  I was mystified.  I remain mystified.  An H actual listing file does not seem to be needed, but something does.  For example:  > ALP $ cc /include = ([], [.vms]) /define=(MODERN, USE_BZIP2) -%        /OBJ=ubz2err.AXP_obj ubz2err.c   J ALP $ pipe anal /obje ubz2err.AXP_obj | search sys$input bz_internal_error+                 symbol: "BZ_INTERNAL_ERROR"   > ALP $ cc /include = ([], [.vms]) /define=(MODERN, USE_BZIP2) -3        /OBJ=ubz2err.AXP_obj ubz2err.c /show = brief 3                                       =============   J ALP $ pipe anal /obje ubz2err.AXP_obj | search sys$input bz_internal_error+                 symbol: "bz_internal_error"   H    Note the case difference: "BZ_INTERNAL_ERROR" v. "bz_internal_error".  F    So far I haven't been able to create a trivial test case.  I assumeD that I can package a fairly small one, but I'd be happier if someoneD could save me the effort by explaining how this is all my fault.  MyF usual analysis tool (/LIST) seems to perturb the system too much to be@ useful.  Compiler bug, subtle feature, or moron at the keyboard?  A    I suppose that I already have a work-around, but it's not very - satisfying.  (Of course, they often are not.)   & ALP $ show symb cc   !!! So don't ask.= %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling    ALP $ cc /vers% HP C V7.1-015 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.714 ************************