1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 28 Dec 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 715       Contents:& Re: DECterm special escape sequences ?& Re: DECterm special escape sequences ?5 How to find PIDs of processes listening on tcp ports? 9 Re: How to find PIDs of processes listening on tcp ports? - Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers - Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers . ODS5 question (number of dots in a filename ?)2 Re: ODS5 question (number of dots in a filename ?), Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ?, Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ?4 Re: Relationship between node numbers, alloclass etc+ Re: Renaming a root from [SYS0] to [SYS1] ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:40:49 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> / Subject: Re: DECterm special escape sequences ? 0 Message-ID: <4viakuF1c2mghU1@mid.individual.net>  & On 2006-12-28 06:20, "JF Mezei" wrote:   > [...]  > J > I tried google, and there are so many sites that list one or two espape N > sequence that it is nearly impossible to find out whether what I am looking  > for exists or not.  7 There are quite a lot of escape sequences documented in 4 <http://bjh21.me.uk/all-escapes/all-escapes.txt> ...   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:11:43 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) / Subject: Re: DECterm special escape sequences ? [ Message-ID: <rdeininger-2812061312160001@dialup-4.233.149.203.dial1.manchester1.level3.net>   0 In article <4viakuF1c2mghU1@mid.individual.net>,1 2006Q4.usenet.michaelunger@spamgourmet.org wrote:   ' >On 2006-12-28 06:20, "JF Mezei" wrote:  >  >> [...] >>  K >> I tried google, and there are so many sites that list one or two espape  O >> sequence that it is nearly impossible to find out whether what I am looking   >> for exists or not.  > 8 >There are quite a lot of escape sequences documented in5 ><http://bjh21.me.uk/all-escapes/all-escapes.txt> ...   E VMS users can look in SMGTERMS.TXT (in SYS$SYSTEM IIRC).  But I don't , think the DECterm special stuff is in there.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:47:52 +0000 (UTC) . From: Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com>> Subject: How to find PIDs of processes listening on tcp ports?, Message-ID: <en0sfo$7u5$1@reader2.panix.com>  7 How can I find the PIDs of processes that are listening 
 on tcp ports?    On Linux I can use	   lsof -i  or   netstat -tanp    On VMS I can say:    $ tcpip netstat -an 6 but I can't find a parameter that will also show which) process/PID is associated with each line.    We are running:    $ tcpip sho version 5     HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.5 /     on an AlphaServer DS25 running OpenVMS V8.2    --  7 Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com> (lose the Q's)    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:55:47 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)B Subject: Re: How to find PIDs of processes listening on tcp ports?2 Message-ID: <06122810554732_2020028F@antinode.org>  . From: Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com>  9 > How can I find the PIDs of processes that are listening  > on tcp ports?   A    I don't know of a simple command, but it should be possible to A process the output from "TCPIP SHOW DEVICE" to get the particular 1 "bgXXX" device, then 'f$getdvi( bg_name, "PID")'.   @    There's probably also a way to use F$DEVICE() and more cleverC F$GETDVI() things to avoid "TCPIP SHOW DEVICE" altogether, but that  might require actual thought.    > On Linux I can use >   lsof -i  > or >   netstat -tanp   <    So, just port "lsof" to VMS.  (How long could that take?)  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:40:35 +0000 # From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@vcn.com> 6 Subject: Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers3 Message-ID: <1167295318_10547@sp6iad.superfeed.net>       Jim Mehlhop wrote: J > This is why I use Multinet on my PWS500 for my home network DHCP server ; > and DNS server, then disable dhcp on my DSL modem/router.  >  > Jim  >   A I normally use a fixed address for the PWS but was trying out the B DHCP client stuff because of Ken's (and others) problems using it.2 I was (am) curious about how nicely it played. 8-)  B I hadn't thought about using the DHCP server for my home net since? the DSL router already does that ok for my windows PCs. The PWS F normally is configured with a fixed IP address outside of the router's
 address pool.   > I may try playing with the TCPIP DHCP server this weekend. 8-)   Jeff     top post, no more    > Jeff Campbell wrote: >  >> Ken.and.Ann@gmail.com wrote:  >> >>> All, >>> J >>>    I've got a PWS 600au running VMS 7.3-1 and TCP/IP Services V5.3-ECO >>> 2, a hobbiest - >>> system I'm trying to put on the internet.  >>>  >> >> [large snip]  >>D >> (I've reposted this because the links I provided don't seem to be, >> working. Hopefully the news are correct.) >>I >> I too am running a PWS600au, VMS 7.3-1, TCPIP 5.3 ECO-2. I use a fixed C >> addresses on network 10 for the machine but over the weekend and H >> Christmas I tried using the DHCP client. My DSL router is a Zoom ADSL >> X6. >>G >> The problem I ran into is that the Zoom ADSL acts as a DNS relay. It J >> supplies it's own IP address as the name server address during the DHCPG >> configuration exchange. This address is obviously not the address of . >> the BIND server I want for my local domain. >>F >> When I configured the BIND resolver using TCPIP$CONFIG, I specifiedJ >> the localhost, 127.0.0.1, as the server since I intended (as I normallyE >> do) to run the BIND server locally. When I started TCPIP, the DHCP I >> client correctly picked up the leased IP address, the subnet mask, and D >> gateway address. It also picked up the domain and the name server >> IP address. >>) >> If you look at the log file I captured  >>* >> <http://as600.n8wxs.com/web/pass_2.txt> >>A >> you'll see (near the bottom 8-) that the DHCP client correctly C >> sets the node name, as600.n8wxs.com. Also the DHCP log file does 7 >> not complain about the BIND resolver being disabled.  >>@ >> But, a $TCPIP SHOW HOST does complain about not being able toC >> find the zone information (since of course the Zoom doesn't have  >> it!)  >> >> The log file  >>+ >> <http://as600.n8wxs.com/web/pass_2a.txt>  >>D >> shows what happens when the machine is rebooted and TCPIP started >> manually with no changes. >>E >> The DHCP client again sets sets the various IP addresses including B >> the name server address. But, this time the node name is set to? >> unknown.n8wxs.com, and the software complains about the BIND  >> resolver being disabled.  >>@ >> For both of these experiments 8-) I removed (by renaming) theA >> client.pcy file in SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$DHCP]. According to the @ >> fine manuals, the DHCP client will use default values for theE >> items requested in the client.pcy file if the file does not exist.  >>B >> Obviously, the node name "unknown" is not the default contained >> in the HOSTNAME. file!  >>B >> The TCPIP permanent configuration has my original assignment ofB >> the localhost as the bind server. The DHCP client replaces that* >> address with the Zoom supplied address. >>C >> Why doesn't the DHCP client *add* the Zoom's name server address B >> to the name server list instead of replacing the existing local >> host entry??  >>? >> Likewise, the Zoom has no idea of the Alpha's node name. The @ >> DHCP client does not send a host name to use to the Zoom. So,8 >> why didn't the DHCP client read the HOSTNAME. file in? >> SYS$SPECIFIC:[TCPIP$DHCP] as it did before? The Zoom did not B >> supply a hostname either time as can be seen in the DHCPSHOWDHC >> outputs.  >> >> Puzzled,   8-)  8-) >> >> Jeff  >> >> >> >> >> >> >>J >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet 
 >> News==---- C >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!   >> 120,000+ NewsgroupsI >> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption   >> =----      Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:41:51 +0000 # From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@vcn.com> 6 Subject: Re: Need help with DHCP Client & Name servers3 Message-ID: <1167295393_10549@sp6iad.superfeed.net>    David J Dachtera wrote:  > Jeff Campbell wrote: >  >>Ken.and.Ann@gmail.com wrote: >> >>>All,  >>> I >>>   I've got a PWS 600au running VMS 7.3-1 and TCP/IP Services V5.3-ECO  >>>2, a hobbiest, >>>system I'm trying to put on the internet. >>>  >> >>[large snip] >>C >>(I've reposted this because the links I provided don't seem to be + >>working. Hopefully the news are correct.)  >>H >>I too am running a PWS600au, VMS 7.3-1, TCPIP 5.3 ECO-2. I use a fixedB >>addresses on network 10 for the machine but over the weekend andG >>Christmas I tried using the DHCP client. My DSL router is a Zoom ADSL  >>X6.  >>C >>The problem I ran into is that the Zoom ADSL acts as a DNS relay.  >  >  > DNS proxy?  A Well, the Zoom CLI interface has commands for "dnsrelay". I think A it is acting as a proxy, mapping the requests and answers between = the DNS servers it knows about and the local nodes making the 	 requests.    >  >  >>ItI >>supplies it's own IP address as the name server address during the DHCP F >>configuration exchange. This address is obviously not the address of- >>the BIND server I want for my local domain.  >>[snip] >  > P > My approach was to set up a home.djesys.com sub-domain and make the Jensen theL > authoritative source for that. Then, I configure my ISP's name servers forO > forwarding requests that the Jensen can't resolve from its local information.  > R > So far, it works fine. Everything stays inside the Netgear FR314 firewall on the > 192.168.1.0/24 network.  > Q > I'm running Multinet V4.4 Rev A-X. Not sure how best to go about the same thing  > under UCX. >   D I don't have access to my ISP's name servers to do any configurationF on them. What I am doing is running the TCPIP BIND server for my localE net and letting it ask the root servers directly. 8-) The PCs use the G DLS router as their DNS server since they are configured with it's DHCP @ server. They don't try to access the n8wxs_com zone as the TCPIPG resolver appearently does, so don't care that the Zoom can't supply it.      Jeff    Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:40:26 -0500 . From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>7 Subject: ODS5 question (number of dots in a filename ?) 8 Message-ID: <40715$4593d77b$cef8887a$25761@TEKSAVVY.COM>   Alpha VMS 8.3, on an ODS5 disk.   ' $ create c2900xl-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC9.bin J %DCL-W-PARMDEL, invalid parameter delimiter - check use of special charac= ters   \.BIN\  H $ create =E9cole.txt.bin    WORKS. (the =E9 proves this is an ODS5 disk)  C $create =E9cole.txt.chocolate.bin FAILS  (same as first line above)   J I was under the impression that under ODS5, one could have as many dots a= s=20J you wished in a file name with only the last one being used to get the fi= le=20  type ?     Help filespec says nothing.   D Help extended_file_spec says nothing about what is permitted or not.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:12:41 -0500 ) From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn@gmail.com> ; Subject: Re: ODS5 question (number of dots in a filename ?) H Message-ID: <7dd80f60612280712y43f33e9cid2860807ff408ac4@mail.gmail.com>  ) ------=_Part_133833_8937066.1167318761355 ; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline   < On 12/28/06, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > ! > Alpha VMS 8.3, on an ODS5 disk.  > ) > $ create c2900xl-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC9.bin D > %DCL-W-PARMDEL, invalid parameter delimiter - check use of special > characters
 >   \.BIN\ > J > $ create =E9cole.txt.bin    WORKS. (the =E9 proves this is an ODS5 disk) > E > $create =E9cole.txt.chocolate.bin FAILS  (same as first line above)     J You can only use more than the traditional one dot in a filename if you've+ set your process parse style to  "extended"    Do a   $ show  process/parse    to see what it's set to    Do a   $ set process/parse=3Dextended   and then your create will work.    Ken   ) ------=_Part_133833_8937066.1167318761355 + Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline   L <br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 12/28/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sen=L dername">JF Mezei</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca">=L jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gma=L il_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0=" pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">L Alpha VMS 8.3, on an ODS5 disk.<br><br>$ create c2900xl-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC9.=L bin<br>%DCL-W-PARMDEL, invalid parameter delimiter - check use of special c=L haracters<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;\.BIN\<br><br>$ create =E9cole.txt.bin&nbsp;&nbsp;=8 &nbsp;&nbsp;WORKS. (the =E9 proves this is an ODS5 disk)L <br><br>$create =E9cole.txt.chocolate.bin FAILS&nbsp;&nbsp;(same as first l=L ine above)</blockquote><div><br>You can only use more than the traditional =L one dot in a filename if you&#39;ve set your process parse style to&nbsp; &= quot;extended&quot; L <br><br>Do a<br><br>$ show&nbsp; process/parse<br><br>to see what it&#39;s =L set to<br><br>Do a<br><br>$ set process/parse=3Dextended<br><br>and then yo=8 ur create will work.<br><br>Ken <br></div><br></div><br>  + ------=_Part_133833_8937066.1167318761355--    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:30:49 +0100 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> 5 Subject: Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ? ; Message-ID: <5d237$45939cda$50db507e$16767@news.hispeed.ch>    healyzh@aracnet.com wrote: > M > Linux has been suffering from *MAJOR* bloat for at least 10 years.  The GUI F > environment is defintely the biggest culprit.  I'm running a copy ofK > Afterstep that is one of the pre-V1 beta's.  I grabbed the source-code 10 M > years ago to run on AIX 3.2, and amazingly it still builds on current Linux I > builds.  Even Motif is lightweight compared to current Window managers!  >   H I'll agree on the GUI bloat in Linux. I used to have a dual boot system H with NT and Linux. The NT box was happy with 64 MB, better with 128 MB, G but to get a decent response from Linux I upgraded to 192 MB. This was  . 7-8 years ago when RAM still cost quite a lot.   > M > Since IRIX is basically a dead platform now, Solaris is my Unix platform of M > choice.  Though these days I mainly use it to exercise scavanged HD's prior & > to installing them on my VMS server. > M > I don't consider Mac OS X to be Unix, or even very efficient, however, I am J > grateful for the Unix layer and X-Windows, as it keeps me from having to& > turn on a Unix box most of the time. >   I Mac OS X also loves plenty of RAM. From what I others have said, if your  G budget for a Mac system is limited, given the choice between 2 closely  G systems, carefully consider the one where you can afford plenty of RAM.   H MS X may not be a "proper" Unix, but I've personally found it an easier & introduction to that world than Linux.   ------------------------------   Date: 28 Dec 2006 13:59:41 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)5 Subject: Re: Open sourced VMS as a business concept ? 0 Message-ID: <4vi0udF1cclgtU2@mid.individual.net>  ; In article <5d237$45939cda$50db507e$16767@news.hispeed.ch>, 2 	Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> writes: > healyzh@aracnet.com wrote: >>  N >> Linux has been suffering from *MAJOR* bloat for at least 10 years.  The GUIG >> environment is defintely the biggest culprit.  I'm running a copy of L >> Afterstep that is one of the pre-V1 beta's.  I grabbed the source-code 10N >> years ago to run on AIX 3.2, and amazingly it still builds on current LinuxJ >> builds.  Even Motif is lightweight compared to current Window managers! >>   > J > I'll agree on the GUI bloat in Linux. I used to have a dual boot system J > with NT and Linux. The NT box was happy with 64 MB, better with 128 MB, I > but to get a decent response from Linux I upgraded to 192 MB. This was  0 > 7-8 years ago when RAM still cost quite a lot.  G Well, let's be fair, the GUI is not really part of Linux. And it is the I same one that is used by the BSD's.  Which brings us back to the question F "Why do the BSD's run so much better than Linux?"  Guess the GUI isn't' the core of the problem after all.  :-)    >  >>  N >> Since IRIX is basically a dead platform now, Solaris is my Unix platform ofN >> choice.  Though these days I mainly use it to exercise scavanged HD's prior' >> to installing them on my VMS server.  >>  N >> I don't consider Mac OS X to be Unix, or even very efficient, however, I amK >> grateful for the Unix layer and X-Windows, as it keeps me from having to ' >> turn on a Unix box most of the time.  >>   > K > Mac OS X also loves plenty of RAM. From what I others have said, if your  I > budget for a Mac system is limited, given the choice between 2 closely  I > systems, carefully consider the one where you can afford plenty of RAM.  > J > MS X may not be a "proper" Unix, but I've personally found it an easier ( > introduction to that world than Linux.  G OS X is Unix.  The only thing it offers of it's own is a Window Manager J that looks like theold Mac GUI.  Everything else is and has been available; for other Unixes long before OS X decided to join the club.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 28 Dec 2006 04:19:37 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk= Subject: Re: Relationship between node numbers, alloclass etc @ Message-ID: <1167308377.361021.8210@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>  F Cluster password was stated somewhere to be the deciding factor, but IC have seen a situation with a SCSI bus shared between two nodes in a @ LAVC where the systems would join a cluster WITHOUT andy cluster authorization file.  Weird.  B There is also the wriggle that you have to change both SCSSYSTEMIDF _and_ nodename so that it appears as a different node to the remainingF cluster members.  Otherwise, the cluster shouldn't allow it back in asC it would potentially corrupt views of the cluster held by the other 
 systems IIRC.    Steve   6 Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote/quoted: > > N > > If I change the SCSYSTEMID on node VELO and then reboot that node, will it& > > be allowed back into the cluster ? > ) > LAVC, right?  Cluster password decides.  > K > > Is it correct to state that allocation class doesn't matter for cluster 1 > > membership, it only is used to name devices ?  >  > Yes, I'm pretty sure.    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Dec 2006 04:26:57 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk4 Subject: Re: Renaming a root from [SYS0] to [SYS1] ?C Message-ID: <1167308817.667989.173840@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   2 Rename SYS0 on the _running_ system to be SYS1 ???  G Be interested to know the results (if VMS lets you, whether things then A break, etc) but I suspect that the only safe way to do this is to G reboot from another disk (whether a minimum environment on another disk @ or via a CD) and rename the system-specific directory from that.   Steve    JF Mezei wrote: 8 > Node BIKE is now in [SYS0] of a system disk for Alpha. > P > Node GEAR is just a concept. (big debate between CHAIN and GEAR for the name). > " > What I would like to do is this; > I > on BIKE, rename [SYS0] to [SYS1], then create a new SYS0 root for GEAR.  > L > And from then on, BIKE would boot with the boot flags set to look for root' > "1" while GEAR would look for root 0.  > L > GEAR can then do an integral copy of BIKE's system disk onto its own.  AndK > it then remains faily easy to keep both system disks in synch, as well as G > make it possible for either node to act as a boot node for the other.  >  > Question:  > P > If I rename the disk:[000000]SYS0.DIR to [000000]SYS1.DIR on a running system, > K > Will redefining SYS$SYSROOT and SYS$COMMON to use SYS1 instead of SYS0 be I > enough to continue to function at the DCL level ? (aka, make use of the L > sys$manager:makeroot.com to create the new root and populate it with infor > for my new GEAR node ) ? > H > I realise that BIKE will need to reboot to get a properly defined rootJ > pointing to SYS1. But if I can hav it reboot after GEAR has been able toM > copy the disk and be self-sustaining and participate to keep cluster quorum 5 > then loss of BOKE while it reboots wouldn't be bad.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.715 ************************