/ INFO-VAX	Sun, 01 Jan 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 1       Contents: Re: DUMP/OUTPUT strangeness  Re: MicroVAX II stuff  Re: MicroVAX II stuff  Re: MicroVAX II stuff  Re: MicroVAX II stuff I Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) I Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) I Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) I Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) P Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...)..P Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...)..P Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...)..P Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...)..P Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...).. Re: Simh VMS-simulation  Re: Simh VMS-simulation # Using VT420 as Alpha System Console ' Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System Console ' Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System Console ' Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System Console  Re: vms smtp problem  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:09:57 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)$ Subject: Re: DUMP/OUTPUT strangeness$ Message-ID: <dolnl5$i1q$1@online.de>  5 In article <43ADBF24.7891B9FA@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei ' <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:    1 > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  > >    $ DUMP *.HTML/OUTPUT=X.X  > > > > > then X.X contains only the dump of the last file.  If I do > J > If you do DUMP X.X , does it truly contain only the last file's result ?   Yes.  J > Also, add /STAT and you'll be able to see if SEARCH actually finds stuff > in the other files.    I wasn't using SEARCH at all.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:43:24 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: MicroVAX II stuff, Message-ID: <43B6D146.747E1944@teksavvy.com>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:C > plan on acquiring any new ones.  Speaking of which, I have an HDA F > and a couple of spare logic boards from drives around here somewhere > too.    H I used logic boards from RA drives to make a panel to cover the sides of a naked 19" enclosure...  E And I used the HDAs as stands for my Bike. They could also be used as  boat anchors I guess.   H The HDAs do have interesting servos. You can plug them into your stereo,G boost volume quite a bit and hear music through the servos that vibrate  to the tune of your stereo :-)  F I have a 1/3 HP motor from RA drives along with its brake. (yes, those( motors had a friction braking mechanism.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:51:39 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: MicroVAX II stuff, Message-ID: <43B6D335.D76C1B79@teksavvy.com>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:J > Oh yeah.  Were you offering to trade?  I cold likely use a KLESI or two.  H The one I have is for a VAX 4000 enclosure with the metal "lid" with theF levers to secure it into the Qbus. Once secured with the levers, thereF are also screws to secure the lid onto the cabinet.  I guess you couldD always tear the rivers and extract the card from the "cab kit" if it doesn't fit.   I also have DSV11 card.    ------------------------------   Date: 31 Dec 2005 19:07:23 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: MicroVAX II stuff, Message-ID: <41o37bF1fqmviU1@individual.net>  , In article <43B6D146.747E1944@teksavvy.com>,0 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote:D >> plan on acquiring any new ones.  Speaking of which, I have an HDAG >> and a couple of spare logic boards from drives around here somewhere 	 >> too.    > J > I used logic boards from RA drives to make a panel to cover the sides of > a naked 19" enclosure... > G > And I used the HDAs as stands for my Bike. They could also be used as  > boat anchors I guess.  > J > The HDAs do have interesting servos. You can plug them into your stereo,I > boost volume quite a bit and hear music through the servos that vibrate   > to the tune of your stereo :-) > H > I have a 1/3 HP motor from RA drives along with its brake. (yes, those* > motors had a friction braking mechanism.  C And yet, I had someone drive several hundred miles to get my old RA C disks.  And I had someone from even further away (over 8 hours) who 8 was also interested in case the first deal fell through.  
 Go figure.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 31 Dec 2005 19:13:25 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: MicroVAX II stuff, Message-ID: <41o3ilF1fqmviU2@individual.net>  , In article <43B6D335.D76C1B79@teksavvy.com>,0 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote:K >> Oh yeah.  Were you offering to trade?  I cold likely use a KLESI or two.  > J > The one I have is for a VAX 4000 enclosure with the metal "lid" with theH > levers to secure it into the Qbus. Once secured with the levers, thereH > are also screws to secure the lid onto the cabinet.  I guess you couldF > always tear the rivers and extract the card from the "cab kit" if it > doesn't fit.  J Actually, I have a couple of 4000's as well.  I have biven some thought toI building a PDP in one of the enclosures.  But I could use an interface to % my TU81+ drives from the VAX as well.  >  > I also have DSV11 card.   H Can't hink of much use for a sync card.  Although I suppose if you had a: couple of them you could always run DECNET over them.  :-)   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 31 Dec 2005 19:54:45 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)R Subject: Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...), Message-ID: <41o605F1fns05U1@individual.net>  , In article <41o4sgF1ec6sbU1@individual.net>,) 	Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch> writes:  > Bill Gunshannon wrote:/ >> Do you honestly think a bunch of whining web N >> users are going to unseat Microsoft from it's position of world domination? > I > Yes, sort of. Just in the last week or so I heard a comment that a team H > was using memory sticks to transfer data between systems because they H > were finding corporate transfers awkward. Real echoes of floppies and L > "sneakernet", when small departments forsook the benefits of corporate IT. > L >> I didn't vote them into that position and I don't  have the power to vote >> them back out.  >>   > H > Non, nein, nyet. If educated and well informed people don't bother to 3 > vote, it's left to the ignorant and uneducated...   K You misundersdtood that one.  The people I didn't vote in was Microsoft and K IE.  The comment Dave made was about our state legislature that voted them- L selves a hefty pay raise and then quickly changed their minds when it becameH obvious that anyone who didn't vote to cancel it was commiting politicalJ suicide.  That might work in government, but nobody voted MS in and nobodyK can vote them back out.  So there really is no threat that can be held over J their heads to change things.  Ms holds the majority of desktops, IE comesK with MS, webpage writers need only be concerned with supporting that model. K Afterall, how many times have VMS users here complained about HP's webpages % being IE specific.  And they own VMS.    >  > Happy New Year, Bill   The same to you, naturally.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 31 Dec 2005 22:33:10 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)R Subject: Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...), Message-ID: <41of96F1fp1nrU1@individual.net>  0 In article <11re0lg1uui0o4d@corp.supernews.com>,* 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote: > / >> Do you honestly think a bunch of whining web N >> users are going to unseat Microsoft from it's position of world domination?L >> I didn't vote them into that position and I don't  have the power to vote >> them back out.  > K > No, but web sites could be convinced to run their stuff through that web  4 > site that checks html for conforming to standards.  F Where is the incentive?  They alreadfy meet the industry standard, IE.   bill    --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 31 Dec 2005 21:00:16 -0800; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> R Subject: Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...)C Message-ID: <1136091616.753455.282330@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:J > you can complain to has no control over it.  That's reality.  The choiceJ > of IE support to the detriment of all other browsers is as much industryI > standard as the x86 architecture, that's reality.  Squeek all you want, J > this is yert another place where MS has won and all the squeeking in theH > world won't change it until MS is supplanted as the industry standard.  ? But Bill, how can MS be supplanted if nobody squeeks?   Without C squeeking the corporations don't know people can't access their web B sites.  If corporations don't know then their web site consultantsF can't be directed to change the sites.  If the sites don't change thenG MS wins and is NEVER supplanted.  The trick is to get the critical mass G of squeekers so the corporations do something.  Your way just keeps the  status quo.    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Jan 2006 05:10:38 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)R Subject: Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...), Message-ID: <41p6idF1g3m48U1@individual.net>  C In article <1136091616.753455.282330@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > 	"johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> writes: >  > Bill Gunshannon wrote:K >> you can complain to has no control over it.  That's reality.  The choice K >> of IE support to the detriment of all other browsers is as much industry J >> standard as the x86 architecture, that's reality.  Squeek all you want,K >> this is yert another place where MS has won and all the squeeking in the I >> world won't change it until MS is supplanted as the industry standard.  > A > But Bill, how can MS be supplanted if nobody squeeks?   Without E > squeeking the corporations don't know people can't access their web D > sites.  If corporations don't know then their web site consultantsH > can't be directed to change the sites.  If the sites don't change thenI > MS wins and is NEVER supplanted.  The trick is to get the critical mass I > of squeekers so the corporations do something.  Your way just keeps the 
 > status quo.   I The Linuxoids have been squeeking for more than a decade.  What's on your  office desktop?    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:35:43 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>Y Subject: Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...).. , Message-ID: <41o4sgF1ec6sbU1@individual.net>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:. > Do you honestly think a bunch of whining webM > users are going to unseat Microsoft from it's position of world domination?   G Yes, sort of. Just in the last week or so I heard a comment that a team F was using memory sticks to transfer data between systems because they F were finding corporate transfers awkward. Real echoes of floppies and J "sneakernet", when small departments forsook the benefits of corporate IT.  K > I didn't vote them into that position and I don't  have the power to vote  > them back out. >   F Non, nein, nyet. If educated and well informed people don't bother to 1 vote, it's left to the ignorant and uneducated...    Happy New Year, Bill   Bonne Anne  's Guetes Neues 
 Nguete Rutsch    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:10:26 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Y Subject: Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...).. , Message-ID: <43B6E5A7.6EE09E71@teksavvy.com>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:L > suicide.  That might work in government, but nobody voted MS in and nobody > can vote them back out.   D MS lives by marketing/image. The more people announce that they haveD stopped using IE, the more millions are announced to have downloadedH Firefox, the greater the chance of a trend away from MS to take hold and> gain momentum. MS will be destroyed the same way it was built.        M > with MS, webpage writers need only be concerned with supporting that model. M > Afterall, how many times have VMS users here complained about HP's webpages ' > being IE specific.  And they own VMS.     @ Google announced some time ago that they would start adhering toB w3.org's HTML standards. I think that Yahoo did the same. The moreB people annouce they are going to adhere to the standards, the lessG influence MS will have and the more pressure there will be to have MS's ) Frontpage produce HTML compliant source.    E One person cannot overturn Microsoft alone. But if everyone sits down @ and says that nothing can be done, then nothing will be done. IfG everyone does their small bit to point to various webmasters the errors F in tehir web sites, then over time, the trend will be to adhere to the> standards and Microsoft will be forced to adhere to standards.  B MS had a policy of shoving its product down people'e throaths withH marketing. And it had a policy of ensuring competing products could take> any market share (or lost their market share as in teh case ofF netscape). However, this is no longer really working for Microsoft. DoD you still see people lining up late at night to get a new version of Word or Windows ?   E Microsoft will , more and more, have to justify and actively sell its C products. People will not upgrade for the sake of upgrading. The PC E market is maturing and people are sick and tired of upgrading all the F time. And that is why Gates is scrambling to find a new business modelH for Microsoft. (Implemening sofware to force people to pay for upgrades,' sellin software over the net etc etc).    G The 64 bit 8086 is in many ways, the next windows 95 and Y2K golden egg ? for MS and Intel. Once MS produces 64-bit only software that is F invomaptible with 32 bit legacy Windows, people will upgrade their PCs: and that means a new version of Windows sold with that PC.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:15:49 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> Y Subject: Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...).. 0 Message-ID: <11re0lg1uui0o4d@corp.supernews.com>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:2 > In article <11rdiu5s9n1v2da@corp.supernews.com>,, > 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: >  >>Bill Gunshannon wrote: >>3 >>>In article <11rcjfeob81pu40@corp.supernews.com>, - >>>	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:  >>>  >>>  >>>>Bill Gunshannon wrote: >>>> >>>>- >>>>>In article <43B5B9F7.70401@comcast.net>, - >>>>>	BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net> writes:  >>>>>  >>>>>  >>>>>  >>>>>>Rich Jordan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Happiness is...J >>>>>>>   three different coworkers coming to my little cube and asking meK >>>>>>>nicely if they might use my Alphastation to do some browsing; due to K >>>>>>>the research going on they have to visit some oddball sites and just J >>>>>>>didn't feel comfortable doing it on their fancy peecees just now...K >>>>>>>(and no its not porn, but some searches lead to eastern European and  >>>>>>>Asian sites). >>>>>>> H >>>>>>>   Now at least two of them want to try Firefox after exposure toN >>>>>>>Mozilla ;)  They know its not a security cure-all but the tabs sure are >>>>>>>nice... >>>>>>L >>>>>>It continues to amaze me that so many people have not heard of (or do @ >>>>>>not use) Mozilla/Firefox - people who consider themselves N >>>>>>"internet-savvy".  It sure makes surfing easier and safer.  I guess too L >>>>>>many folks are used to beating themselves over the head with Internet A >>>>>>Exploder, and have gotten used to the dull ache of Windows.  >>>>>  >>>>> K >>>>>It could also be because so many sites are programming to the IE model K >>>>>and other browsers just don't work.  And, like it or not, the job must G >>>>>get done and if it requires IE, well that is what you have to use. 1 >>>>>Not saying it's right or wise, just reality.  >>>>I >>>>Some of the solution to that is for every user that has a problem to  J >>>>complain to the webmaster or whoever.  Enough squeeky wheels and some  >>>>lube may become available. >>>> >>>  >>> G >>>Like I said above, reality check time. The university has contracted I >>>it's web design out to a third party.  Users on the web have no access H >>>to (or even the ability to identify) this entity.  So the only personK >>>you can complain to has no control over it.  That's reality.  The choice K >>>of IE support to the detriment of all other browsers is as much industry J >>>standard as the x86 architecture, that's reality.  Squeek all you want,K >>>this is yert another place where MS has won and all the squeeking in the I >>>world won't change it until MS is supplanted as the industry standard.  >>>  >>>bill  >>>  >>I >>There are many things in this world where people may feel that nothing  L >>can be done.  However, consider the following, "PA legislature pay raise". >  > H > Trust me, they'll get their money before their done.  That's politics.J > But the only reason they backed down was the threat of the loss of their > very lucrative positions.   I One of the locals tried to convince people that it would cost more if he  F was voted out of office.  He'd get his pension, and the new guy would  also get paid.  . > Do you honestly think a bunch of whining webM > users are going to unseat Microsoft from it's position of world domination? K > I didn't vote them into that position and I don't  have the power to vote  > them back out. >  > bill   >   I No, but web sites could be convinced to run their stuff through that web  2 site that checks html for conforming to standards.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:50:43 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Y Subject: Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...).. , Message-ID: <43B70B3B.F7B40820@teksavvy.com>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:L > > No, but web sites could be convinced to run their stuff through that web6 > > site that checks html for conforming to standards. > H > Where is the incentive?  They alreadfy meet the industry standard, IE.    F Lets say 10% of population doesn't use microsoft. Would you be willingH to make your web site microsoft-specific and reduce your sales by 10%? ?  E Once upper management realise that the coding of their web site turns H away a significant proportion of customers, they will want to tell theirL marketing people to adhere to standards so that all customers can be served.    E Look at HP'sd web site where the web people insist on using a 1 pixel H GIF image to slowly paint a white background instea of simply specifyingD a background of white.  How did this stupidity come about ? ProbablyF because Front page doesn't know about color tag in HTML and decides toH do all colours as 1 pixel GIF images and use the bacgground tag instead.  H And once it is done, it is very hard to convince HP that such a practice: is absolutely ludicrous. The people who approved those webF designs/standards at HP aren't about to admit that they approved sillyC practices. In the case of HP, it is even harder to convicne them of G their errors since HP is a slave to Microsoft and uf they stopped using D non-compliant Microsoft tools, it would anger the gods at Microsoft.  F But for busines in a real business, once you tell them how to simplyfyH their web design to be compliant and faster to load, do they really have an excuse not to do it ?  H Consider the load on your web server. Serving those silly 1 pixel imagesH takes additional juice from the server. Yet, people continue to use that ludicrous practice.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:08:29 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>Y Subject: Re: OT: Mozilla/Firefox (was:Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...) ...).. G Message-ID: <1rudnU3IpaBD7CrenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>    johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com wrote:  > Bill Gunshannon wrote: > J >>you can complain to has no control over it.  That's reality.  The choiceJ >>of IE support to the detriment of all other browsers is as much industryI >>standard as the x86 architecture, that's reality.  Squeek all you want, J >>this is yert another place where MS has won and all the squeeking in theH >>world won't change it until MS is supplanted as the industry standard. >  > 7 > But Bill, how can MS be supplanted if nobody squeeks?   G Not a problem:  people are squeaking enough already - over 10% Firefox  B penetration in just a couple of years, and most Web sites started B attempting to avoid losing such a non-trivial percentage of their > clientele quite a while ago (especially since it's arguably a F disproportionally important 10+%).  It is *very* rarely that I notice H any difficulty using Firefox on any site these days (except, of course, H Microsoft's Update site which relies heavily upon ActiveX - though most ( other Microsoft sites work well enough).  G Bill can choose to be a part of that, or not, without making a whit of   difference.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:53:13 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>  Subject: Re: Simh VMS-simulation, Message-ID: <41o2cqF1empbnU1@individual.net>   Steven M. Schweda wrote:* > From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) >  > & >>Your welcome and Gelukkig Nieuw Jaar >  > I >    Stick to Dutch.  You're English needs work.  But dont worry.  Its' a , > problem for alot of people whoo post hear. >    Now _that_ is funny. Thanks.   Wishing you anappy newyear   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Dec 2005 11:38:31 -0800, From: "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com>  Subject: Re: Simh VMS-simulationC Message-ID: <1136057911.533180.309570@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    SIMH list is at   9 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit 7 	http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Dec 2005 16:29:11 -0800. From: "Schnootling" <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>, Subject: Using VT420 as Alpha System ConsoleC Message-ID: <1136075351.697148.325740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   	 Hi Folks,    Quick question: B I've got a failing monitor and a healthy VT420 (powers up and saysB "VT420 OK"). The monitor is attached to the monitor slot/plug. The- VT420 is attached to the COM-1/Serial-1 plug.   D 1) I powered up VT420. Verified, several times, that VT420 is set to	 9600 8N1. + 2) I did a SET CONSOLE SERIAL at SRM prompt < 3) and BOOTed. System still tried to use monitor as console.E 4) I pressed the VT420's Enter/Return key a lot more than a couple of  times.  B Should I (have to) unhook the monitor to get the system to use the VT420 as a system console ?   
 Curious Chuck    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Dec 2005 16:34:51 -0800; From: "vmsmangler@earthlink.net" <vmsmangler@earthlink.net> 0 Subject: Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System ConsoleC Message-ID: <1136075691.478381.217860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Schnootling wrote: > Hi Folks,  >  > Quick question: D > I've got a failing monitor and a healthy VT420 (powers up and saysD > "VT420 OK"). The monitor is attached to the monitor slot/plug. The/ > VT420 is attached to the COM-1/Serial-1 plug.  > F > 1) I powered up VT420. Verified, several times, that VT420 is set to > 9600 8N1. - > 2) I did a SET CONSOLE SERIAL at SRM prompt > > 3) and BOOTed. System still tried to use monitor as console.G > 4) I pressed the VT420's Enter/Return key a lot more than a couple of  > times. > D > Should I (have to) unhook the monitor to get the system to use the > VT420 as a system console ?  >  > Curious Chuck   < I think you need to do an INIT after you SET CONSOLE SERIAL.   Bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:29:53 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 0 Subject: Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System Console( Message-ID: <ops2obn3bkzgicya@hyrrokkin>  9 On 31 Dec 2005 16:34:51 -0800, vmsmangler@earthlink.net   ! <vmsmangler@earthlink.net> wrote:    >  > Schnootling wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> Quick question:E >> I've got a failing monitor and a healthy VT420 (powers up and says E >> "VT420 OK"). The monitor is attached to the monitor slot/plug. The 0 >> VT420 is attached to the COM-1/Serial-1 plug. >>G >> 1) I powered up VT420. Verified, several times, that VT420 is set to  >> 9600 8N1.. >> 2) I did a SET CONSOLE SERIAL at SRM prompt? >> 3) and BOOTed. System still tried to use monitor as console. H >> 4) I pressed the VT420's Enter/Return key a lot more than a couple of	 >> times.  >>E >> Should I (have to) unhook the monitor to get the system to use the  >> VT420 as a system console ? >> >> Curious Chuck > > > I think you need to do an INIT after you SET CONSOLE SERIAL. >  > Bill > B Also, if you happen to use window you will find it far more useful8 to connect the cable to the PC and connect via hyperterm   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Dec 2005 20:47:57 -0800; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> 0 Subject: Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System ConsoleB Message-ID: <1136090877.694347.36700@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Schnootling wrote: > Hi Folks,  >  > Quick question: D > I've got a failing monitor and a healthy VT420 (powers up and saysD > "VT420 OK"). The monitor is attached to the monitor slot/plug. The/ > VT420 is attached to the COM-1/Serial-1 plug.  > F > 1) I powered up VT420. Verified, several times, that VT420 is set to > 9600 8N1.   F You should probably verify that the SRM serial port is also set to theB same.  It should be by default, but you never know what a previous owner might have done.    - > 2) I did a SET CONSOLE SERIAL at SRM prompt > > 3) and BOOTed. System still tried to use monitor as console.  E Unless you have the BOOT_RESET variable set to TRUE then the previous F value of CONSOLE will still be in effect.  If BOOT_RESET is FALSE then! do an INIT first before you boot.   G > 4) I pressed the VT420's Enter/Return key a lot more than a couple of  > times. > D > Should I (have to) unhook the monitor to get the system to use the > VT420 as a system console ?   E No. What matters is the keyboard.  Since you set the CONSOLE variable C to SERIAL then SRM should try the serial port first.  If it sees no A action there AND detects a keypress on the keyboard input it will   likely use the graphics console.   >  > Curious Chuck      John H. Reinhardt    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:54:08 -0500 ' From: "Yi Jiang" <y.jiang@sympatico.ca>  Subject: Re: vms smtp problem 9 Message-ID: <tlBtf.2836$Yk2.431939@news20.bellglobal.com>    You are great!   I tried it. It woks!  J It has been bother me almost one year. 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