/ INFO-VAX	Thu, 05 Jan 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 9       Contents:! Creating system wide DECW$DISPLAY % Re: Creating system wide DECW$DISPLAY  Re: DAT drive compatability  Re: Honeypot stats RE: Honeypot stats Re: Honeypot stats Re: IP stack for old VAX Re: IP stack for old VAX Re: IP stack for old VAX Re: IP stack for old VAX' Re: OT: Intel logo and branding changes ' Re: OT: Intel logo and branding changes ' Re: OT: Intel logo and branding changes  SFTP on Openvms 7.32 or 8.2  Re: SFTP on Openvms 7.32 or 8.2  Re: SFTP on Openvms 7.32 or 8.2  Re: SSH 5 TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface 9 Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface 9 Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface 9 Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:15:54 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> * Subject: Creating system wide DECW$DISPLAY, Message-ID: <43BC490A.74A58AAF@teksavvy.com>  F Is there a documented way to create a system-wide DEC$DISPLAY device ?  G $SET DISP/CREATE/EXEC/TRANSPORT=xxx/NODE=yyy creates a persistent WSAx: > device, but the logical is still created in the process table.  F Is there a magical incantation to cause it to be created in the system logical name table ?   Or it is a question of doing:   - $SET DISP/CREATE/EXEC/TRANSPORT=xxx/NODE=yyy  5 $DEFINE/SYSTEM DECW$DISPLAY 'F$TRNLNM("DECW$DISPLAY")     B Goal: have a node run most of the DECW applications and target theB display to the workstation by default and not have to create a new2 display everytime I start an application remotely.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:54:03 -0500* From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>. Subject: Re: Creating system wide DECW$DISPLAY* Message-ID: <43bc601d@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  B Follow it by doing a define/system of DECW$DISPLAY pointing to the( translation (the WSAn) you just created.  C All the client code does is effectively a getenv() for DECW$DISPLAY     : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message& news:43BC490A.74A58AAF@teksavvy.com...H > Is there a documented way to create a system-wide DEC$DISPLAY device ? > I > $SET DISP/CREATE/EXEC/TRANSPORT=xxx/NODE=yyy creates a persistent WSAx: @ > device, but the logical is still created in the process table. > H > Is there a magical incantation to cause it to be created in the system > logical name table ? >  > Or it is a question of doing:  > . > $SET DISP/CREATE/EXEC/TRANSPORT=xxx/NODE=yyy7 > $DEFINE/SYSTEM DECW$DISPLAY 'F$TRNLNM("DECW$DISPLAY")  >  > D > Goal: have a node run most of the DECW applications and target theD > display to the workstation by default and not have to create a new4 > display everytime I start an application remotely.   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2006 10:37:19 -0800 ( From: "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com>$ Subject: Re: DAT drive compatabilityC Message-ID: <1136399838.944891.154490@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   * TLZ04 - 60M (DDS-1), 1.2GB, no compression8 TLZ06 - 90M (DDS-DC), 2 GB, compression (4GB compressed)7 TLZ07 - 120M (DDS-2), 4GB, compression (8GB compressed) ? TLZ09 - 120M (DDS-2), 4GB, compression (8GB compressed), faster 	 mechanism   B Sony and a few others made original 90M drives without support forA compression.  I'm not familiar with your Python unit; some online B sources call it DDS-1 but using 90M tapes; thats inconsistent with anything I've seen before..   B Once thing you can try; do a sizeable backup of compressible stuff8 (text files/data files as opposed to images/binary) withD /media=compaction on both init and backup, and one without it.  TimeD them.  Compaction should run faster (at least it does on every otherB DAT drive I've ever used) because the compression performed by theF drive reduces writing time to tape, which is the bottleneck.  AssumingG of course you are not on an excessively slow SCSI controller; this test ! has worked on a MicroVAX 3100-30.   F If you have enough data to back up, you can also just try backing up >F 2GB to the tape and see if it fits; don't expect anything close to theD 4GB listed unless you're backing up very compressible stuff.  If you& get 2.2+ GB then its doing compaction.   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2006 16:05:40 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)  Subject: Re: Honeypot stats 3 Message-ID: <Q+Zia384KLrK@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <43BC1345.3BF5B00D@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > davidc@montagar.com wrote: > J > While on the surface, this true, this may not be because of VMS per say,1 > but rather the lack of new applications on VMS.   A    Bull.   It's because of the design and implementation quality.   4    There has been no business case at MS for either.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:21:24 -0500' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>  Subject: RE: Honeypot stats R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB7739CA@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----9 > From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com]=20  > Sent: January 4, 2006 1:26 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: Honeypot stats  >=20 > davidc@montagar.com wrote:@ > > Most of us that run OpenVMS are very security minded, and=20 > take pride of D > > the "Cool and UnHackable".   Long before Windows announced their1 > > security focus, OpenVMS was already doing it.  >=20 >=20@ > While on the surface, this true, this may not be because of=20 > VMS per say,1 > but rather the lack of new applications on VMS.  >=20   Nope. Nice try though.=20   ? What does new application availability have to do with platform  security?=20  A If implemented correctly, application issues should not result in ; elevated system priv's or kernel access by nasty end users.   # Check out this security whitepaper: 8 http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/4AA0-2896ENW.pdf  H Security needs to be planned into a platform from the beginning. TackingG security on later results in month security patches as can be seen with  other platforms.=20     
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:36:33 +1100 $ From: Phaeton <phaeton@iinet.net.au> Subject: Re: Honeypot stats J Message-ID: <43bc9441$0$15764$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>   Neil Rieck wrote: F >>I'll take Linux or just about any vendor's UNIX over Windows when itH >>comes to security and stability any day. Of course, I'll take VMS over	 >>either.  >> > N > If I was into tattoos, and my biceps were big enough, I have those 27 words  > done in ink.  B 	:-) Maybe you should consider another part of your anatomy, if it( 	was, khm... accommodating enough... :-)  2 	( Sorry, couldn't resist... I'll get my coat... )K                                                              Cheers,  Csaba   E --------------------------------------------------------------------- F   CSABA I. HARANGOZO  |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|  phaeton at iinet dot net dot auE --------------------------------------------------------------------- <     EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:39:37 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ! Subject: Re: IP stack for old VAX , Message-ID: <43BC1666.9264043A@teksavvy.com>   Bob Koehler wrote:@ >    OBTW, in case my other post didn't make it clear, login andB >    file moves are not what I need.  Socket level connections are >    closer to what I need.   A The plot thickens. You would then need to be aware of programming F interface for your applications. TCPIP and DECNET are different beastsF at the programming level. Are you converting existing apps from DECNET links to TCPIP links ?  = CMU did have a large book of documentation on its programming D interfaces. Not sure if I still have it (it was a .PS file printable from the kit).   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2006 16:09:51 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ! Subject: Re: IP stack for old VAX 3 Message-ID: <u2kFc7Ehl7Gv@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <43BC1666.9264043A@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Bob Koehler wrote:A >>    OBTW, in case my other post didn't make it clear, login and C >>    file moves are not what I need.  Socket level connections are  >>    closer to what I need. > C > The plot thickens. You would then need to be aware of programming H > interface for your applications. TCPIP and DECNET are different beastsH > at the programming level. Are you converting existing apps from DECNET > links to TCPIP links ?  @    No, I'm currently running only an old custom network.  I haveE    an IP<->old-net gateway that can help me with temporary but urgent G    distance issues.  I'd have to look at either using the gateway alone E    or replacing the old-net interfaces with sockets (this has already     been done on the other end).   H    Right now it looks like I need to determine whether scrounging up theH    parts to make another IP<->old-net gateway is going to be easier than*    finding media for an old network stack.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:28:56 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ! Subject: Re: IP stack for old VAX , Message-ID: <43BC4C18.EB79225E@teksavvy.com>   Bob Koehler wrote:J >    Right now it looks like I need to determine whether scrounging up theJ >    parts to make another IP<->old-net gateway is going to be easier than, >    finding media for an old network stack.    , CMU IP is available in the VMS freeware CDs.  4 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/cmuip/  E However, the readme does indicate that that version need VMS 5.2, but C there should be older versions available on the net somewhere. That C document does contain some ftp/web sites that used to have mirrors.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:45:58 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ! Subject: Re: IP stack for old VAX , Message-ID: <43BC5014.1BAA1AF9@teksavvy.com>  
 More info:  ; The version of CMU IP that works with VMS 4.4->4.7 is V 6.3    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:52:47 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 0 Subject: Re: OT: Intel logo and branding changes, Message-ID: <43BC3594.FCB1E0AD@teksavvy.com>  9 The new Intel Logo  was unveiled yesterday in Lost Wages.   . http://news.com.com/2300-1006_3-6016382-1.html  , (Also, the term "Pentium" is being dropped).   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:05:09 -0800% From: DeanW <dean.woodward@gmail.com> 0 Subject: Re: OT: Intel logo and branding changesI Message-ID: <3f119ada0601041405t7c8c836ds3b8ec28ff9329125@mail.gmail.com>   9 On 1/4/06, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote: ; > The new Intel Logo  was unveiled yesterday in Lost Wages.  > 0 > http://news.com.com/2300-1006_3-6016382-1.html  L Imagine my amusement to find that the link first shows and avert for AMD64.= .    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:50:07 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG0 Subject: Re: OT: Intel logo and branding changes0 Message-ID: <00A4F4F0.87111935@SendSpamHere.ORG>  \ In article <43BC3594.FCB1E0AD@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >  > : >The new Intel Logo  was unveiled yesterday in Lost Wages. > / >http://news.com.com/2300-1006_3-6016382-1.html  > - >(Also, the term "Pentium" is being dropped).   F It won't be dropped completely!  The old "intel inside" will still be : retained on the toilet seat cover in the VAXman household.   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:25:49 -0500 + From: Chuck Aaron <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu> $ Subject: SFTP on Openvms 7.32 or 8.25 Message-ID: <dph7g5$lpt$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------0301020609030600060803039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   E Is anyone using sftp can you tell me how to use it (syntax, etc....).     & --------------030102060903060006080303) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   ? <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">  <html> <head>I   <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">    <title></title>  </head> ' <body bgcolor="#339999" text="#ffffff"> I Is anyone using sftp can you tell me how to use it (syntax, etc....).<br>  <br> </body>  </html>   ( --------------030102060903060006080303--   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jan 2006 21:07:16 +0100 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)( Subject: Re: SFTP on Openvms 7.32 or 8.2* Message-ID: <43bc3904@news.langstoeger.at>  c In article <dph7g5$lpt$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu>, Chuck Aaron <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu> writes: F >Is anyone using sftp can you tell me how to use it (syntax, etc....).   $ sftp
 sftp> help SFTP client Sftp2 @  Copyright 1976, 2003 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.  D Type 'help <topic>', where <topic> is one of the following commands:  B open            lopen           close           quit            cdC lcd             pwd             lpwd            ls              lls B get             mget            put             mput            rmF lrm             mkdir           lmkdir          rmdir           lrmdirG rename          lrename         readlink        lreadlink       symlink F lsymlink        ascii           binary          auto            setextD getext          lsroots         debug           verbose         help   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:29:32 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) ( Subject: Re: SFTP on Openvms 7.32 or 8.22 Message-ID: <g%Xuf.1206$6k4.1187@news.cpqcorp.net>  c In article <dph7g5$lpt$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu>, Chuck Aaron <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu> writes:   F :Is anyone using sftp can you tell me how to use it (syntax, etc....).  D   In addition to sftp> help (which is the best spot to start), there/   are a few other related discussions around...   K http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=985928   = ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/layered_products/alpha/ &   DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP_ECO-V0504-155-4.txt  A   In general, it's basically a straight port -- so most any sftp  &   documentation around should suffice.  @   Getting it set up is the most interesting part, but that's the   norm for these protocols.   J http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=61461  H   Also log in on the deathrow.vistech.net cluster (username and passwordE   are posted there) and note 151.* in the VMS notes conference there. E   (That discussion is related to MultiNet, but might be useful here.)    	--   D   ps: Please turn off MIME within your client when posting.  Thanks.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Dec 2005 14:13:39 +0100K From: pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.68.40)  Subject: Re: SSH! Message-ID: <eh2N$KziOnvj@sinead>   R In article <43B3E10A.6030605@comcast.net>, BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net> writes: > Patrick MOREAU wrote: 
 >> Hi all, >>  @ >> Is there a way to install TCPIP 5.4 under VMS 7.2-1 (Alpha) ? > J > Is the home system a hobbyist system?  If so, you are not tied to using ? > TCP/IP Services; you can use either TCPware or Multinet from  E > process.com.  Both offerings work under V7.2-1, and offer superior  # > functionality to TCP/IP Services.   N Yes, it is an hobbyist system. I know there are alternatives to DEC TCPIP (logM time ago I was using Wollongong on VAXes) but I'm used to DEC TCPIP and leter % versions are not bad (OK for my use).    Thanks for the reply.    Patrick  --O =============================================================================== N pmoreau@ath.cena.fr              ______      ___   _          (Patrick MOREAU)4 DSNA/DTI/SDER (ex CENA)         / /   /     / /|  /|J Athis-Mons France              / /___/     / / | / |   __   __   __   __  N BP 205                        / /         / /  |/  |  |  | |__| |__  |__| |  |N 94542 ORLY AEROGARE CEDEX    / /   ::    / /       |  |__| | \  |__  |  | |__|N http://www.ath.cena.fr/~pmoreau/              http://membres.lycos.fr/pmoreau/O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:44:19 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> > Subject: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface, Message-ID: <43BC258B.964050C9@teksavvy.com>  B I have tried to find information on how the cluster alias in TCPIP5 Services works. All I could find is how to set it up.   A This is for a cluster behind a NAT router. The router works by IP C adress. So DNS based solutions for load balancing are not workable.   G The only information I could find is that the first node to start TCPIP D Services assumes the cluster alias. If that node is taken out of the7 cluster, some other node will assume the cluster alias.   1 Is there any documentation on how this is done ?    G Are there ways to force a node to relinquish its cluster alias "master" " so that another node can take it ?  H How quickly does another node assume the cluster alias after the current alias impersonator crashes ?  G When there is a change in which node assumes the cluster alias IP, does H the new node send out some magic broadcast to invalidate ARP caches ? OrB would one need to wait for the router to timeout the bad ARP entryF before seeking an update on which ethernet address is in charge of the cluster alias IP ?    H On the backup nodes, is there a way for an application to be notified if/ that node has become the cluster impersonator ?   G For instance, BIND doesn't work in a cluster with dynamic updates. (not E on VAX anyways). So if the node running BIND crashes, the backup node 4 would want to be told so it could start the service.  G Alternatively, is there a way to configure TCPIP Services (5.3) so that G a service is started only on-demand and not when the stack is started ? H (this was the behaviour prior to 5.3). This way, I could define the BINDF service on all nodes but not start it, and then if a packet comes intoF port 53, it would indicate that the cluster alias has been enabled forD that node and the BIND server could then start, using the last saved version of the databases.    ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:01:14 +0000 (UTC)- From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) B Subject: Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface. Message-ID: <dphgja$5oh$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes in article <43BC258B.964050C9@teksavvy.com> dated Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:44:19 -0500: C >I have tried to find information on how the cluster alias in TCPIP 6 >Services works. All I could find is how to set it up. > B >This is for a cluster behind a NAT router. The router works by IPD >adress. So DNS based solutions for load balancing are not workable.  I The TCPIP cluster alias feature does not do load balancing.  At least, it  didn't used to.   H >The only information I could find is that the first node to start TCPIPE >Services assumes the cluster alias. If that node is taken out of the 8 >cluster, some other node will assume the cluster alias.  K That matches what I have observed and read in the docs.  You can also cause ; a node to relinquish the cluster alias without rebooting.     2 >Is there any documentation on how this is done ?   J It's pretty obvious it uses the lock feature of VMS, much-trumpeted by DEC for failover use.   H >Are there ways to force a node to relinquish its cluster alias "master"# >so that another node can take it ?   F "UCX SET INTER WE0 /NOCLUS" I think.  But that risks breaking existing connections.  I >How quickly does another node assume the cluster alias after the current  >alias impersonator crashes ?   L Pretty much immediately, but I wonder if there's an issue with ARP timeouts.  I >On the backup nodes, is there a way for an application to be notified if 0 >that node has become the cluster impersonator ?  & Hmmmm, polling the lock table maybe...  H >For instance, BIND doesn't work in a cluster with dynamic updates. (notF >on VAX anyways). So if the node running BIND crashes, the backup node5 >would want to be told so it could start the service.  > H >Alternatively, is there a way to configure TCPIP Services (5.3) so thatH >a service is started only on-demand and not when the stack is started ?I >(this was the behaviour prior to 5.3). This way, I could define the BIND G >service on all nodes but not start it, and then if a packet comes into G >port 53, it would indicate that the cluster alias has been enabled for E >that node and the BIND server could then start, using the last saved  >version of the databases.  K I haven't grappled with this but given (for example) CSWS starts separately F from (but after) TCPIP you should be able to do it for BIND somehow.    H Another idea -- write software to control the NAT router's forwarding of that port as appropriate.   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:18:58 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> B Subject: Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface, Message-ID: <43BC49C2.E2FB2444@teksavvy.com>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: G > I'm assuming you have a dynamic WAN IP.  If so, what do you gain from  > running a BIND server?  E Actually i have fixed WAN IP. But bind server serves my intranet with F intranet node names and intranet IPs. So when I type www.vaxination.caF intrenally, it points to the intranet IP address instead of the publicC WAN IP. And it lets me define nodes that aren't accessible from the  outside world.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:07:10 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> B Subject: Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface, Message-ID: <43BC7124.E8BE3FF7@teksavvy.com>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: ! > > Actually i have fixed WAN IP.  >   > How much extra does that cost?  C The smaller ISPs  charge $4.00 to $10.00. The big ISPs , wanting to B protect the milking of business customers, only offer fixed IPs onA business services which are much much more expensive.  A bit like E Digital that crippled low end machines to prevent rich customers from  using cheaper machines.       G > For that, I just use the local hosts table.  Since the internal names D > and addresses don't change that often, I maintain it on all nodes.  F Fair enough. But my bind server also serves lan originated requests toI the outside world.  Besides, it is the best way to learn the technology.        / BTW, I stumbled on the following in the manual:      ##H 6. Set the cluster timer with the SET COMMUNICATION or SET CONFIGURATION COMMUNICATION command.    For example, enter:* TCPIP> SET COMMUNICATION /CLUSTER_TIMER=30  @ 7. Optionally, direct traffic to a specific host by entering the following command:) TCPIP> SET COMMUNICATION /CLUSTER_TIMER=0   K The host owns the cluster alias as long as there are active TCP connections L using the alias until you either bring down the system or delete the network
 interface. ##   The on-line help says:            /CLUSTER_TIMER=n   E        Optional. Default: 5 minutes. (If set to 0, the host holds the H        cluster host name until you either stop TCP/IP Services or delete        the interface.)  D        Specifies the maximum time given for a node to respond to the        cluster name.   ##    F So, it isn't quite clear to me what the cluster timer really does. AllG it *seems* to say is that if I issue SET COMM/CLUSTER_TIMER=0 on nodeA, B then NodeA will assume the cluster IP (and I would assume tell theE current cluster IP holder to go get lost). But I have no clue on what 1 the difference between 5 and 30 minutes would be.     + Is there additional documentation on this ?    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.009 ************************