0 INFO-VAX	Fri, 06 Jan 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 12      Contents:* Re: Check whether a tape is loaded in DCL? Re: KVM Switches Re: MicroVAX II stuff ' Re: OT: Intel logo and branding changes 	 SSH login 
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 Re: SSH login 9 Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface 9 Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface 9 Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface 9 Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface ' Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System Console ' Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System Console ' WVNETcluster uptime reaches 10 years... + Re: WVNETcluster uptime reaches 10 years... + Re: WVNETcluster uptime reaches 10 years... + Re: WVNETcluster uptime reaches 10 years...   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:14:08 +0000  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> 3 Subject: Re: Check whether a tape is loaded in DCL? 4 Message-ID: <dplqf1$6bf$1$830fa7a5@news.demon.co.uk>   Christoph Gartmann wrote:  > Hello, > L > is it possible via DCL to check, whether a tape is present in a MK device?   Sorry for the late reply ...  A You can use the unsupported (but very useful) utility in Sys$etc:    $ rzt:=$sys$etc:rztools_alpha  $  $ rzt mka500:/tur   H Will return "Unit is Ready" if there's a tape in there, otherwise you'll" get "Drive not ready".  It's fast.  	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jan 2006 10:19:47 -0800 ; From: "vmsmangler@earthlink.net" <vmsmangler@earthlink.net>  Subject: Re: KVM Switches C Message-ID: <1136571587.090855.152140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    William Webb wrote: 8 > On 5 Jan 2006 13:26:22 -0800, vmsmangler@earthlink.net# > <vmsmangler@earthlink.net> wrote:  > >  > > Galen wrote:K > > > We have one kind of Belkin 2-port KVM switches here and another newer ( > > > switch from IOgear--model GCS612A. > > > K > > > With my particular LK461, both of them have the same minor problem if I > > > certain special keys are pressed repeatedly. The symptom is that it I > > > sort of freezes up until another special key is pressed. One of the J > > > keys with this problem happens to be PF3, which is a pain since it's. > > > used for searching in EDT-style editors. > > > K > > > I don't have another LK461 immediately available to determine whether K > > > the problem is in  the keyboard itself, or in the switches. I'll have B > > > to borrow one from another system when nobody's looking. :-) > > J > > Thanks for the information. I checked iogear's website and also called > > their technical people. J > > They claim to only support the 102 key keyboard so I am surprised that > > is supports a true DECK > > keyboard, e.g. LK461. From what I have determined from all responses is  > > that PC's keyboards G > > are scanset 2 while DEC keyboards are scanset 3. My 2 DPW 433/500au  > > workstations all have I > > keyboard detection problems during power-up testing by SRM. They also  > > have the error that $ > > scan code 0xfa is not supported. > >  > > Bill > >  > > Retired VMS Systems Manager  > >  > >  > G > I seem to recall that there is much anecdocal data on which KVMs work ? > with LK-style keyboards in the comp.os.vms historical record.  >  > WWWebb > --E > NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  > correspondence. E > All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for : > services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at% > http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/   = I have checked the historical records for KVM switches, LK46x E keyboards, etc. Wow! Lots of information and somewhat conflicting but 
 very usefull.   G I am curious if Ken Fairfield ever got the Belkin switch to work with a 6 true Alpha running VMS and using a LK46 type keyboard.   Bill   Ritired VMS System Manager   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:13:24 -0700 # From: Jim Mehlhop <jim@mehlhop.org>  Subject: Re: MicroVAX II stuff. Message-ID: <9ryvf.47$sr3.344@news.uswest.net>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:  - > Anybody here in need of MicroVAX II pieces?  >  > I currently have:  >    M7600 AC       KA630  >    M7600 AF       KA630  >    M7608 AF       2M Memory  >    M7608 AH       2M Memory + >    M7608 BP       4M Memory  (2 of these)  > K > They could use a new home.  Free for the asking, but I wouldn't turn down K > some nice QBUS trinket in exchange.  Looking for RL Controllers, KLESI or J > any kind of third-party controller that used IDE disks (were there any?) > J > Oh yeah.....  I also still have something labeled Option: VAX U.B.A.  It< > appears to be some kind of a backplane and is brand new.    - Unibus adapter probably for a VAX 11/780(785)      Surely there is J > someone out there that knows what it is and needs it.  even if only as aK > spare part for a currently running system.  At least, tell me what it is!  >  > bill >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:06:47 -0700 # From: Jim Mehlhop <jim@mehlhop.org> 0 Subject: Re: OT: Intel logo and branding changes* Message-ID: <43BEB1B7.1040706@mehlhop.org>   LOL     VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  ^ > In article <43BC3594.FCB1E0AD@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >  >>; >>The new Intel Logo  was unveiled yesterday in Lost Wages.  >>0 >>http://news.com.com/2300-1006_3-6016382-1.html >>. >>(Also, the term "Pentium" is being dropped). >  > H > It won't be dropped completely!  The old "intel inside" will still be < > retained on the toilet seat cover in the VAXman household. >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:34:41 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: SSH login( Message-ID: <ops2yqv306zgicya@hyrrokkin>  ? tcpip 5.4 on 7.3  added a new user account, but unable to login ; via ssh, can do so with telent or set host.  I don't recall 9 having done anything specific before to enable ssh login.  Clues? Tom    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:04:11 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: SSH login2 Message-ID: <06010610041147_20331674@antinode.org>  # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>   A > tcpip 5.4 on 7.3  added a new user account, but unable to login = > via ssh, can do so with telent or set host.  I don't recall ; > having done anything specific before to enable ssh login.    > Clues?  E    I don't see any.  Perhaps you could show us what "unable to login"  means.  F    Does anything appear at an operator terminal when the login failure occurs?   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:58:35 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: SSH login( Message-ID: <ops2yrzxjezgicya@hyrrokkin>  < On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:04:11 -0600 (CST), Steven M. Schweda   <sms@antinode.org> wrote:   G >    I don't see any.  Perhaps you could show us what "unable to login"  > means.G >   Does anything appear at an operator terminal when the login failure 	 > occurs? % Sorry, should have been more precise.    login as: george george@freja's password:
 Access denied   - As I said, this works with SET HOST or telnet    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:32:03 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: SSH login2 Message-ID: <06010610320372_20331674@antinode.org>  # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>   I > >   Does anything appear at an operator terminal when the login failure  > > occurs?    > login as: george > george@freja's password: > Access denied   H    Perhaps it would be useful to know how that started, and on what.  MyF experience is limited, but I've never seen an "ssh" session start like that.  "ssh -d"?  <    Can you "ssh" from the VMS system to itself as that user?  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:17:29 -0700  From: Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net>  Subject: Re: SSH login7 Message-ID: <1136567321_4023@spool6-east.superfeed.net>    Tom Linden wrote: A > tcpip 5.4 on 7.3  added a new user account, but unable to login = > via ssh, can do so with telent or set host.  I don't recall ; > having done anything specific before to enable ssh login.  > Clues? > Tom   + Can you log in using SSH as any other user?   / Have you configured/enabled SSH on the machine?   Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:31:32 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: SSH login( Message-ID: <ops2ywaun6zgicya@hyrrokkin>  < On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:32:03 -0600 (CST), Steven M. Schweda   <sms@antinode.org> wrote:    >> login as: george  >> george@freja's password:  >> Access deniedI >   Perhaps it would be useful to know how that started, and on what.  My H > experience is limited, but I've never seen an "ssh" session start like > that.  "ssh -d"? This was from PuTTY = >   Can you "ssh" from the VMS system to itself as that user?   G Yes, and it revealed that the password had expired (even though a new    account,H I guess it needs to be changed after first login)  however, even after  
 going through L what you see below, but still can't get in from PuTTY, as I can with other   accounts   FREJA> ssh -v -l george freja I debug: Ssh2/SSH2.C:1448: CRTL version (SYS$SHARE:DECC$SHR.EXE ident) is    V7.3-0 debug: hostname is 'freja'. & debug: Unable to open ssh2/ssh2_config& debug: connecting to freja, port 22... debug: entering event loop3 debug: ssh_client_wrap: creating transport protocol G debug: SshAuthMethodClient/SSHAUTHMETHODC.C:145: Added "publickey" to    usable methods. F debug: SshAuthMethodClient/SSHAUTHMETHODC.C:145: Added "password" to   usable methods. > debug: Ssh2Client/SSHCLIENT.C:1356: creating userauth protocolL debug: Ssh2Common/SSHCOMMON.C:517: local ip = xxx.xx.xxx.xxx, local port =   49180 L debug: Ssh2Common/SSHCOMMON.C:519: remote ip = xxx.xx.xxx.xxx, remote port   = 220 debug: SshConnection/SSHCONN.C:2092: Wrapping...C warning: Warning: Need basic cursor movement capablity, using vt100 H debug: Ssh2Transport/TRCOMMON.C:643: Remote version: SSH-2.0-2.4.1 SSH   Secure Shell OpenVMS V1.0 D debug: Ssh2Transport/TRCOMMON.C:1167: c_to_s: cipher 3des-cbc, mac   hmac-sha1, compression none D debug: Ssh2Transport/TRCOMMON.C:1170: s_to_c: cipher 3des-cbc, mac   hmac-sha1, compression none @ debug: Ssh2Client/SSHCLIENT.C:508: Host key found from database.K debug: Ssh2Common/SSHCOMMON.C:321: Received SSH_CROSS_STARTUP packet from    connection protocol.I debug: Ssh2Common/SSHCOMMON.C:371: Received SSH_CROSS_ALGORITHMS packet     from connection protocol.) debug: Unable to open ssh2/identification B debug: Ssh2AuthClient/SSHAUTHC.C:347: Method 'publickey' disabled.J debug: Ssh2AuthPasswdClient/AUTHC-PASSWD.C:197: Starting password query... george's password:J debug: Ssh2AuthPasswdClient/AUTHC-PASSWD.C:291: Starting password change   query...  @ Your password has expired; you must set a new password to log in    
 New password:   
 Verification: L debug: Ssh2Common/SSHCOMMON.C:289: Received SSH_CROSS_AUTHENTICATED packet    from connection protocol. Authentication successful.5 debug: Ssh2Common/SSHCOMMON.C:722: num_channels now 1 0 debug: DISPLAY not set; X11 forwarding disabled.  I Now, from another cluster node it worked debug login session  ending with   7 debug: server offers auth methods 'publickey,password'. F georges's password: ent/AUTHC-PASSWD.C:249: Starting password query...  L debug: Ssh2Common/SSHCOMMON.C:314: Received SSH_CROSS_AUTHENTICATED packet   from connection protocol.A debug: SshReadLine/SSHREADLINE.C:3717: Uninitializing ReadLine...  Authentication successful.5 debug: Ssh2Common/SSHCOMMON.C:856: num_channels now 1 > debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.& debug: Failed to get local xauth data. $     B So trying again from PuTTY still no luck, so tried from Tru64 5.0B! bash-2.03$ ssh -v -l george freja  debug: hostname is 'freja'. 6 debug: Unable to open /usr/users/tom/.ssh2/ssh2_config& debug: connecting to freja, port 22... debug: entering event loop3 debug: ssh_client_wrap: creating transport protocol G debug: SshAuthMethodClient/sshauthmethodc.c:141: Added "publickey" to   + usable met                            hods. F debug: SshAuthMethodClient/sshauthmethodc.c:141: Added "password" to  + usable meth                            ods. > debug: Ssh2Client/sshclient.c:1217: creating userauth protocolL debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:513: local ip = 206.55.236.253, local port =   2598L debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:515: remote ip = 206.55.236.242, remote port   = 220 debug: SshConnection/sshconn.c:1878: Wrapping...H debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:613: Remote version: SSH-2.0-2.4.1 SSH  5 Secure Sh                            ell OpenVMS V1.0 D debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:1132: c_to_s: cipher 3des-cbc, mac  7 hmac-sha1, co                            mpression none D debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:1135: s_to_c: cipher 3des-cbc, mac  7 hmac-sha1, co                            mpression none @ debug: Ssh2Client/sshclient.c:461: Host key found from database.K debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:317: Received SSH_CROSS_STARTUP packet from   0 connec                            tion protocol.I debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:367: Received SSH_CROSS_ALGORITHMS packet   6  from con                            nection protocol.9 debug: Unable to open /usr/users/tom/.ssh2/identification B debug: Ssh2AuthClient/sshauthc.c:320: Method 'publickey' disabled.J debug: Ssh2AuthPasswdClient/authc-passwd.c:107: Starting password query... langstoeger's password: L debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:285: Received SSH_CROSS_AUTHENTICATED packet    from connection protocol. Authentication successful.5 debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:718: num_channels now 1 > debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.   $   ' Trying again from PuTTY, it now worked!    Odd!   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:47:33 GMT 0 From: "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@hp.com>B Subject: Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface> Message-ID: <pgpvf.196617$V7.64443@news-server.bigpond.net.au>   Hi JF,  K Whilst I believe you are referring to V5.3 on VAX, to which there has been  L many excellent responses, I thought I would chime in with the state of this 6 technology as it was enhanced starting in TCP/IP V5.4.  ; "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message  & news:43BC258B.964050C9@teksavvy.com...C >I have tried to find information on how the cluster alias in TCPIP 7 > Services works. All I could find is how to set it up.   K Starting in TCP/IP V5.4, the cluster alias has been superseded by failSAFE  D IP.  There is a great deal of information on failSAFE in the TCP/IP @ management guide as well as the OpenVMS Technical Journal V2 at:  ? http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/journal/v2/articles/tcpip.pdf    > C > This is for a cluster behind a NAT router. The router works by IP E > adress. So DNS based solutions for load balancing are not workable.   K OK, so I guess you have just one public IP address which you would like to   be the failSAFE address?   > I > The only information I could find is that the first node to start TCPIP F > Services assumes the cluster alias. If that node is taken out of the9 > cluster, some other node will assume the cluster alias.   J With failSAFE IP, it will also detect failures on the NIC or switch.  The J failSAFE address can be configured on multiple NICs on the same system as  well as across cluster members.    > 2 > Is there any documentation on how this is done ?   Distributed Lock Manager.    > I > Are there ways to force a node to relinquish its cluster alias "master" $ > so that another node can take it ?  : With failSAFE IP, you can force an interface to fail with:  1     $ define/sys tcpip$failsafe_failed_<ifname> 1    > J > How quickly does another node assume the cluster alias after the current > alias impersonator crashes ?  K Assuming a healthy cluster, it is immediate (in the order of milliseconds).    > I > When there is a change in which node assumes the cluster alias IP, does J > the new node send out some magic broadcast to invalidate ARP caches ? OrD > would one need to wait for the router to timeout the bad ARP entryH > before seeking an update on which ethernet address is in charge of the > cluster alias IP ?  M Whenever an IP address is configured on an interface it generates gratuitous  M arp packets.  All hosts on the LAN will update their arp caches accordingly.  G In this way, the hosts/routers on the LAN will know how to find the IP    address at its new MAC location.   >  > J > On the backup nodes, is there a way for an application to be notified if1 > that node has become the cluster impersonator ?   G It's on the requirements list.  At the moment, you have to use polling  K techniques.  Also, when failSAFE IP detects a failed interface, it invokes  I tcpip$syfailsafe which may be used to help alert an application that the   address has left.   G It doesn't directly solve the problem of finding where the address has  K landed, but your tcpip$syfailsafe procedure may then use "ifconfig'P1'" to  M determine where the address has become active.  It's a little ugly, since it  G involves parsing the output from a command, and we all know that these  $ things can change from time to time.   > I > For instance, BIND doesn't work in a cluster with dynamic updates. (not G > on VAX anyways). So if the node running BIND crashes, the backup node 6 > would want to be told so it could start the service. > I > Alternatively, is there a way to configure TCPIP Services (5.3) so that I > a service is started only on-demand and not when the stack is started ? J > (this was the behaviour prior to 5.3). This way, I could define the BINDH > service on all nodes but not start it, and then if a packet comes intoH > port 53, it would indicate that the cluster alias has been enabled forF > that node and the BIND server could then start, using the last saved > version of the databases.    Matt.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:24:55 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> B Subject: Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface, Message-ID: <43BE291C.CDCCCE89@teksavvy.com>   Matt Muggeridge wrote:M > many excellent responses, I thought I would chime in with the state of this 8 > technology as it was enhanced starting in TCP/IP V5.4.  E But since it is unlikely to make it to VAX, I'll have to stick to the H cluster alias :-( Your article provides a good overview for the failsafeA , but brings nothing new to me with regards to cluster alias. :-(   < > With failSAFE IP, you can force an interface to fail with: > 3 >     $ define/sys tcpip$failsafe_failed_<ifname> 1   E What about with the cluster alias ? I'Md like to dynamically move the M cluster impersonator without having to crash a node and drop its TCPIP stack.   N > Whenever an IP address is configured on an interface it generates gratuitousN > arp packets.  All hosts on the LAN will update their arp caches accordingly.  C Thanks for this information. This is very valuable information. (It F should have been n the documentation BTW. I assume that with Failsafe,H the same happens when a new host and/or NIC takes over abnd IP address ?     Happy surfing.   JF   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:28:16 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> B Subject: Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface, Message-ID: <43BE29E5.14707CD9@teksavvy.com>  F OH, BTW, I found out how to make applications behave properly. (Thanks to Dave Jones).   E If an application specifies an interface of 0.0.0.0, it automatically H gets inbound calls from all interfaces in that machine. (netstat shows a? *.port instead of host.port where the listening is being done).   > I have tested this with a OSU web server "localaddress 0.0.0.0D www.chocolate.com"  and it seems to work. however, since I don't yetC know how to cause the cluster impersonator to change, I haven't yet G tested how well it works when the backup node desides to get control of  the cluster IP address.    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 10:30:08 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)B Subject: Re: TCPIP Services: management of cluster alias interface$ Message-ID: <dplgrg$a06$2@online.de>  5 In article <43BE29E5.14707CD9@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei ' <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:    H > OH, BTW, I found out how to make applications behave properly. (Thanks > to Dave Jones).  > G > If an application specifies an interface of 0.0.0.0, it automatically J > gets inbound calls from all interfaces in that machine. (netstat shows aA > *.port instead of host.port where the listening is being done).   3 Is this general, or specific to the OSU web server?   @ > I have tested this with a OSU web server "localaddress 0.0.0.0F > www.chocolate.com"  and it seems to work. however, since I don't yetE > know how to cause the cluster impersonator to change, I haven't yet I > tested how well it works when the backup node desides to get control of  > the cluster IP address.   / Why not TCPIP SET [CONFIG] INTERFACE/NOCLUSTER?    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Jan 2006 15:49:21 -0800 . From: "Schnootling" <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>0 Subject: Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System ConsoleC Message-ID: <1136504961.100649.321260@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Hello Everyone,   B I haven't been able to work on this problem for the past couple ofB days. I hope to have some time tonight to experiment. (I'm at work right now.)   
 Some answers: E 1) Hans ("can you use the VT420 to log on ?") - No. I get no response B when pressing Return/Enter. I don't know which terminal device theE VT420 is attached/assigned to other than saying the VT420 is attached  to the Alpha at serial port 1.E 2) Steven - ("Is it 'On Line' ? If the data-in and data-out lines are G connected together, can it talk to itself ?") - The VT420 is plugged in B through a connection I had built for me by a firm back east (U.S.)> which makes custom MMJ-serial connections for connecting VTxxxF terminals to PCs and other platforms: The MMJ connector is on one end,@ and there's a serial-male connector on the other. This then goesC through a serial-converter plug/attachment to leave a serial-female G connector for plugging onto the Alpha 4100. I don't understand what you F mean by "data-in and data-out lines are connected together". Does thisF mean attaching the MMJ ends so that one goes in COMM1 and the other in COMM2 ? G 3) Hoff - ("Make sure you have the right session on the right port".) - G After all my fiddling, I put the MMJ connection back onto port 1. I had E set the VT420 is set to SESSION-1 on COMM1. I'll re-verify it and the $ Alpha SRM COM1_BAUD setting tonight.  G After trying some more tonight, I'll let y'all know how it went. By the C way, my eBay-bought LA75 arrived last night. I hope to set it up to : talk over the parallel port sometime in the next few days.    Thanks again for the assistance, Chuck    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:29:47 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)0 Subject: Re: Using VT420 as Alpha System Console2 Message-ID: <06010608294789_20331674@antinode.org>  . From: "Schnootling" <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>  G > 2) Steven - ("Is it 'On Line' ? If the data-in and data-out lines are I > connected together, can it talk to itself ?") - The VT420 is plugged in D > through a connection I had built for me by a firm back east (U.S.)@ > which makes custom MMJ-serial connections for connecting VTxxxH > terminals to PCs and other platforms: The MMJ connector is on one end,B > and there's a serial-male connector on the other. This then goesE > through a serial-converter plug/attachment to leave a serial-female I > connector for plugging onto the Alpha 4100. I don't understand what you H > mean by "data-in and data-out lines are connected together". Does thisH > mean attaching the MMJ ends so that one goes in COMM1 and the other in	 > COMM2 ?   ,    See how easy it is to assume the obvious?  F    I lack VT420 documentation, but the VT220 "Set-Up Directory" screenD includes an "On Line" (or "Local") field.  In "Local" mode, keyboardH data are sent directly to the display (which makes a nice test).  In "OnH Line" mode, keyboard data are sent to the serial port data-out line, andF data from the serial port data-in line are sent to the display.  ThereE should also be something like a "Communications Set-Up" screen, where B the serial port should be set to something like "Data Leads Only",+ rather than something like "Modem Control".   C    Assuming that the terminal is "On Line" and not expecting proper F modem control signals, and that the serial port itself is ok, the nextF question is the (mystery) cable.  On a modern 9-pin serial port (which< differs from one on an old MicroVAX), wired as Data TerminalG Equipment (DTE, as opposed to Data Communications Equipment (DCE), like  a modem) the pins are:  !       1  DCD  Data carrier detect        2  RXD  Receive data       3  TXD  Transmit data !       4  DTR  Data terminal ready        5  GND  Ground       6  DSR  Data set ready       7  RTS  Request to send        8  CTS  Clear to send        9  RI   Ring indicator  D Pins 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, and 9 are the modem control lines.  Pins 2 and 3D (with 5) carry the data.  If, instead of connecting the cable to theA computer, you take some small metal tool and connect pins 2 and 3 E together, then the terminal should act as it it were in "Local" mode, B that is, keyboard data should appear on the display.  If not, thenH either the cable or the terminal is bad.  A similar loopback test can beG done directly on the MMJ connector of the terminal, but it's physically H more difficult to make the connection on that sort of connector, and youB may need to make two connections there.  The standard MMJ loopback connector looks like:          +--------------+       |  +--------+  |       |  |  +--+  |  |       |  |  |  |  |  |       1  2  3  4  5  6  H but the 1-6 connection is for modem control, so it should not be needed.  =    Google can find lots of info on a search for "mmj pinout".   C    If the loopback test succeeds, you could still have pins 2 and 3 F reversed at the 9-pin connector.  A voltmeter could tell you which pinH carries the Transmit Data signal (on the terminal side, and the computerB side).  A 9-pin-to-9-pin "null modem" adapter should reverse those connections, if that's needed.  C    Note that the computer and terminal are both wired as DTE.  This E means that to connect the two, a null modem cable is required, as one G man's In is another man's Out, and connecting TXD to TXD and RXD to RXD < (instead of TXD to RXD and RXD to TXD) does not promote good@ communication.  (If you lack a voltmeter, you could just run the7 experiment and swap pins 2 and 3 to see if that helps.)   H    If your mystery cable is straight-through instead of null-modem, thenF that could also explain a failure.  The male gender suggests that your: MMJ adapter cable is _not_ a null-modem cable, and if your: "serial-converter plug/attachment" is a (straight-through)G gender changer instead of a (wire-crossing) null modem, then that could  be the problem.   E    So, do a loopback test to check the cable.  If that passes, try to G determine if pins 2 and 3 are connected properly or need to be swapped. D _Then_ you can start to worry about all the rest of the stuff in the previous discussions.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:11:00 +0000 7 From: David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> 0 Subject: WVNETcluster uptime reaches 10 years...( Message-ID: <43BE1804.70801@bigpond.com>  @ http://uptimes.hostingwired.com/account.php?op=details&hid=13922   Regards, Dave --  B David B Sneddon (dbs) VMS Systems Programmer dbsneddon@bigpond.comB Sneddo's quick guide ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/B DBS freeware   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:53:11 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com>4 Subject: Re: WVNETcluster uptime reaches 10 years...9 Message-ID: <Xfxvf.3003$iQ.1619@tornado.southeast.rr.com>   E "David B Sneddon - bigpond" <dbsneddon#bigpond.com> wrote in message  " news:43BE1804.70801@bigpond.com... > B > http://uptimes.hostingwired.com/account.php?op=details&hid=13922 > 
 > Regards, > Dave > --  D > David B Sneddon (dbs) VMS Systems Programmer dbsneddon#bigpond.comD > Sneddo's quick guide ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/D > DBS freeware   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm    H That's impressive.  Is there any way those stats can be smudged by OSes?   Ken   % _____________________________________  Kenneth Farmer <>< 336-736-7376   # OpenVMS.org: http://www.OpenVMS.org ' dba.OpenVMS.org: http://dba.OpenVMS.org ' dcl.OpenVMS.org: http://dcl.OpenVMS.org    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 18:15:08 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>4 Subject: Re: WVNETcluster uptime reaches 10 years..., Message-ID: <427mssF1gu5p1U1@individual.net>   Kenneth Farmer wrote: G > "David B Sneddon - bigpond" <dbsneddon#bigpond.com> wrote in message  $ > news:43BE1804.70801@bigpond.com... > B >>http://uptimes.hostingwired.com/account.php?op=details&hid=13922 >>
 >>Regards, >>Dave >>--  D >>David B Sneddon (dbs) VMS Systems Programmer dbsneddon#bigpond.comD >>Sneddo's quick guide ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/D >>DBS freeware   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm >  >  > J > That's impressive.  Is there any way those stats can be smudged by OSes? >    Yes:  , http://uptimes.hostingwired.com/protocol.php   <scroll to bottom of page>   Faking  G Now that you know the protocol, it's easy to write a client that fakes  I its uptime. Personally, I think hosts running FreeBSD 4.6.2 with uptimes  D over 3 years are pretty stupid. Maybe you think differently. In any F case, hosts with fake uptimes will be marked bogus and ignored in the ; statistics, so there's really no point in wasting your time    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Jan 2006 10:18:12 -0800 $ From: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org>4 Subject: Re: WVNETcluster uptime reaches 10 years...B Message-ID: <1136571492.848285.39350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    David B Sneddon - bigpond wrote:B > http://uptimes.hostingwired.com/account.php?op=details&hid=13922  F VERY impressive.  I'm coming up to 8 years so I know the challenges...  % Tybalt> say f$getsyi("cluster_ftime")  30-MAY-1999 07:28:07.05   ! I'm number 2 on the uptimes site.   ! Congrats on the 10th anniversary! 	    .../Ed    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.012 ************************                                                                                                    W+;Zы+p
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