0 INFO-VAX	Sun, 29 Jan 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 58      Contents: Re: FOR070.DAT files appearing: Re: HP, Intel becoming laughing stock of computer industry: Re: HP, Intel becoming laughing stock of computer industry& Re: Intel/Hp spend $10 billion on IA64# Re: Looking for .ISO files for SIMH   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:07:49 -0800 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>' Subject: Re: FOR070.DAT files appearing 0 Message-ID: <C0023665.1AF62%roktsci@comcast.net>   On 1/28/06 1:15 AM, in articleL 1138439739.901412.91720@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, "dooleys@snowy.net.au" <dooleys@snowy.net.au> wrote:    >  > Jeff Cameron wrote: H >> On 1/26/06 1:38 PM, in article 7IOdnQ_Gm8z63ETeRVnyrA@brightview.com,  >> "Eccles" <nospam@home> wrote: >>  J >>> I've tried to see who the file creator is but the file ownership takes* >>> the default ownership of the directory >>  K >> This particular aspect of your problem indicates that the creator of the N >> file (or the image if it is installed as a global section) used a privilegeO >> (probably BYPASS) to create the file in the directory that it normally would 9 >> not be allowed to do so because of protections/rights.  > Not necessarily...G > I think it is common practice to define your directory security using  > ACLs& > so that file ownership is inherited.D > In this case the user might be shown by using dir/sec on the file. > Phil > H While that is true, it is not likely the situation in this case, as most3 people do not put such an ACL on their directories.    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jan 2006 07:26:00 -0800, From: "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com>C Subject: Re: HP, Intel becoming laughing stock of computer industry C Message-ID: <1138548360.018354.309660@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   F Well all I know if we have  an entry level I64 running OpenVMS 8.2 andC used for development purposes, and it runs circles around the other C development systems ( a Vax 4000 and a dual processor Alpha 2100A). G Based on that, they needed to retire the Alphas and come up with a more C modern design...whether they did it correctly by "rolling their own E unique processor design" is the BIG question...the answer to which is - starting to look all too obvious I am afraid.   E A pity since the Itanium does seem to be a real speedy little box....    ------------------------------   Date: 29 Jan 2006 16:24:14 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)C Subject: Re: HP, Intel becoming laughing stock of computer industry * Message-ID: <4448heF9cusU1@individual.net>  C In article <1138548360.018354.309660@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, / 	"rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com> writes: H > Well all I know if we have  an entry level I64 running OpenVMS 8.2 andE > used for development purposes, and it runs circles around the other E > development systems ( a Vax 4000 and a dual processor Alpha 2100A).   @ Gee, I'll bet it's faster than my PDP-11/73 too.  Heck, I'll bet6 it's even fater than the 80486 I threw aeay on Friday.  I > Based on that, they needed to retire the Alphas and come up with a more E > modern design...whether they did it correctly by "rolling their own G > unique processor design" is the BIG question...the answer to which is / > starting to look all too obvious I am afraid.   D Or it could mean you probably should have compared it to something aC little less long in the tooth.  Just out of curiosity, what did the E Itanium cost?  I have a 4 CPU 2100A in mt basement and it cost $0.00. E I have VAXen considerably larger than your 4000 that also cost $0.00.    > G > A pity since the Itanium does seem to be a real speedy little box....   E Yeah, and that 486 I threw away was a real screamer next to the PC/XT  that went out with it.  I In case you haven't figured it out, your argument is rather unconvincing.    bill      --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 29 Jan 2006 05:13:34 -0800 From: bob@instantwhip.com / Subject: Re: Intel/Hp spend $10 billion on IA64 C Message-ID: <1138540414.919472.138210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   $ why should vms depend on a chip that' could not beat EV79 and certainly would  never beat EV8?   ( The trouble with itanium is everyone who) is on alpha knows itanium still is not on / the level of alpha ... can you tell me it does?   ' Can it beat the x86 opteron alpha clone  boat anchor?  + And here is what is really stupid, spending ( 10B for a chip design that DEC engineers) told us was flawed from the start instead * of just a few hundred million a year for a, proven design in alpha that has been already) designed to compete for the next 20 years ) and would trounce every other alpha clone  chip out there!   * Now that is a brilliant business decision!  + If itanium fails, then vms better be ported - or sold or HP will fail, and we will lead the  way on the boycott!    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:43:00 +0300 # From: "work" <work@informchaos.com> , Subject: Re: Looking for .ISO files for SIMH/ Message-ID: <drho62$srm$1@alpha2.radio-msu.net>   - Well I know how to make .ISO file from CD:)))  I don't have the CD itself:((   1 Many thanks to everybody who let me download 7.2. $ I already installed it - works fine.K Lets me TELNET and FTP from the host system but DECWINDOWS only from other  
 computers.  H My target is to emulate VAXCLUSTER with several SIMH nodes under VMWARE  under XP on my Athlon.    @ "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message % news:43DC3127.A62965CA@comcast.net...  > rcyoung wrote: >>B >> I took a VMS 6 and a VMS 7 install CD, and used the Mac/X "diskC >> utility" to make a disk image (compression off). SIMH on Mac and J >> windows had no problem with the resulting file.  I was able to boot and >> install VMS.  > & > An alternate method for VMS systems: >   > 1. MOUNT the CD drive /FOREIGN+ > 2. COPY from the CD drive to a disk file. > >    The COPY will complete with an illegal block number errorC >    (trying to read past the end of the physical medium); however, 0 >    the image file will be complete and intact.8 > 3. FTP the image file as binary to the target machine. >  > --   > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > ( > Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page# > http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/  > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/  > $ > Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/  > + > Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: % > http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/     ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.058 ************************