1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 28 Jul 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 417       Contents:/ Re: "get" function in HP's sftp fails sometimes  Re: An opportunity for VMS( Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.6( Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.6( Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.6( Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.64 Re: Digital^H^H^H^H^H^H^H hp is a "Software" Company4 Re: Digital^H^H^H^H^H^H^H hp is a "Software" Company  How Do I Find The Root Directory$ Re: How Do I Find The Root Directory$ Re: How Do I Find The Root Directory$ Re: How Do I Find The Root Directory$ Re: How Do I Find The Root Directory Re: Mercury Interactive  Re: Mercury sell "TestDirector"  Mercury sell "TestDirector"  Re: Mercury sell "TestDirector"  MOPs+ page_setup and a signature 'font' on a dimm % Re: PIPE redirection as stream file ? % Re: PIPE redirection as stream file ? % Re: PIPE redirection as stream file ? ( Re: Tomcat user authentication question.( Re: Tomcat user authentication question.( Re: Tomcat user authentication question.  Re: Upgrading disks in Shadowset  Re: Upgrading disks in Shadowset+ [DCL] How to identify a EV6 or EV7 reliable   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 14:52:07 -02006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)8 Subject: Re: "get" function in HP's sftp fails sometimes, Message-ID: <44ca2497$1@news.langstoeger.at>  p In article <1154013798.506373.162320@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Palda" <jiri.pallich@logicacmg.com> writes:A >I have got the solution already. The error was caused by "ascii" H >transfer mode which does not work for HP's sftp client. The binary mode >works OK :)  ; Now that you found the solution, can you give more details? 8 Which (OpenVMS, TCPIP) version has which (SFTP) problem?  O In other words, do I need to upgrade to not hit this roadblock in the future...    TIA    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   Date: 28 Jul 2006 11:23:43 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)# Subject: Re: An opportunity for VMS + Message-ID: <4iuadvF5f70fU2@individual.net>   , In article <eacpt0$ogf$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>,! 	david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk writes:  > H > What is there to mine ? Think of the asteroid belt as a failed planet.  F Ah ha!!  There's the rub.  Is it a failed planet or an example of what6 awaits earth if "dark visitor" ever does show up.  :-)   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 02:54:36 -07001 From: "Bart.Zorn@gmail.com" <Bart.Zorn@gmail.com> 1 Subject: Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.6 C Message-ID: <1154080476.329332.152370@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Barry Kierstein wrote:G > The Availability Manager team is pleased to announce the Availability K > Manager Version 2.6.  This version includes updates to both Data Analyzer  > and Data Collector kits. > M > New features in the Availability Manager Version 2.6 include the following:  > < >     -  Support for OpenVMS V8.3, including 64 CPU support. > < >     -  System Overview window redone to look like DECamds. > K >     -  Additional Group Overview window and Single Group window for sites  >        with many groups. > B >     -  New Single Process views to view all information at once. > F >     -  New events added to detect high CPU usage on the primary CPU. >  > D > Problems corrected in Availability Manager Version 2.6 include the > following: > B >     -  Disk Status and Disk Volume filtering problems corrected. > J >     -  Disk free space collection corrected, occasionally reported stale	 > values.  > G >     -  Single process windows fixes - fixed hangs in data collection.  >  > L > The Availability Manager kits can be obtained from the following web site: > 8 >        www.hp.com/products/openvms/availabilitymanager >  > K > Thank you for using our products.  Let us know if you have any questions.  >  > The Availability Manager Team  > OpenVMS Engineering   C I must say, this is a big improvement! AM is now roughly functional : equivalent to AMDS. The fonts being used are ugly, though.  C That said, I still strongly believe that it is unacceptable that AM E runs slowly, using 40% of a DS25 CPU with 2 GB of memory (Java 1.5.0, 1 Fast VM), while AMDS uses 3% of a DS15 with 1 GB.   F AMDS should continue to be supported, which means supplying .LIB files  for all recent OpenVMS versions!   Regards,  	 Bart Zorn    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 14:59:52 -02006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)1 Subject: Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.6 , Message-ID: <44ca2668$1@news.langstoeger.at>  w In article <1154080476.329332.152370@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Bart.Zorn@gmail.com" <Bart.Zorn@gmail.com> writes: D >That said, I still strongly believe that it is unacceptable that AMF >runs slowly, using 40% of a DS25 CPU with 2 GB of memory (Java 1.5.0,2 >Fast VM), while AMDS uses 3% of a DS15 with 1 GB. > G >AMDS should continue to be supported, which means supplying .LIB files ! >for all recent OpenVMS versions!    I second this (again)    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:20:55 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 1 Subject: Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.6 ) Message-ID: <op.tdeh05qczgicya@hyrrokkin>   : On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 02:54:36 -0700, Bart.Zorn@gmail.com  =   <Bart.Zorn@gmail.com> wrote:   >  > Barry Kierstein wrote:I >> The Availability Manager team is pleased to announce the Availability=   F >> Manager Version 2.6.  This version includes updates to both Data  =   >> Analyzer  >> and Data Collector kits.  >>F >> New features in the Availability Manager Version 2.6 include the  =  
 >> following:  >>= >>     -  Support for OpenVMS V8.3, including 64 CPU support.  >>= >>     -  System Overview window redone to look like DECamds.  >>I >>     -  Additional Group Overview window and Single Group window for  =    >> sites >>        with many groups.  >>C >>     -  New Single Process views to view all information at once.  >>G >>     -  New events added to detect high CPU usage on the primary CPU.  >> >>E >> Problems corrected in Availability Manager Version 2.6 include the 
 >> following:  >>C >>     -  Disk Status and Disk Volume filtering problems corrected.  >>I >>     -  Disk free space collection corrected, occasionally reported st=  ale 
 >> values. >>I >>     -  Single process windows fixes - fixed hangs in data collection.=    >> >>I >> The Availability Manager kits can be obtained from the following web =   =   >> site: >>9 >>        www.hp.com/products/openvms/availabilitymanager  >> >>D >> Thank you for using our products.  Let us know if you have any  =  
 >> questions.  >>  >> The Availability Manager Team >> OpenVMS Engineering > E > I must say, this is a big improvement! AM is now roughly functional < > equivalent to AMDS. The fonts being used are ugly, though. > E > That said, I still strongly believe that it is unacceptable that AM G > runs slowly, using 40% of a DS25 CPU with 2 GB of memory (Java 1.5.0, 3 > Fast VM), while AMDS uses 3% of a DS15 with 1 GB.    Is Java the culprit? > I > AMDS should continue to be supported, which means supplying .LIB files=   " > for all recent OpenVMS versions! > 
 > Regards, >  > Bart Zorn  >    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 07:05:50 -07001 From: "Bart.Zorn@gmail.com" <Bart.Zorn@gmail.com> 1 Subject: Re: Announcing Availability Manager V2.6 C Message-ID: <1154095550.097412.103860@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>    Tom Linden wrote: 9 > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 02:54:36 -0700, Bart.Zorn@gmail.com  > <Bart.Zorn@gmail.com> wrote: >  > >  > > Barry Kierstein wrote:J > >> The Availability Manager team is pleased to announce the AvailabilityE > >> Manager Version 2.6.  This version includes updates to both Data 
 > >> Analyzer  > >> and Data Collector kits.  > >>E > >> New features in the Availability Manager Version 2.6 include the  > >> following:  > >>? > >>     -  Support for OpenVMS V8.3, including 64 CPU support.  > >>? > >>     -  System Overview window redone to look like DECamds.  > >>H > >>     -  Additional Group Overview window and Single Group window for
 > >> sites > >>        with many groups.  > >>E > >>     -  New Single Process views to view all information at once.  > >>I > >>     -  New events added to detect high CPU usage on the primary CPU.  > >> > >>G > >> Problems corrected in Availability Manager Version 2.6 include the  > >> following:  > >>E > >>     -  Disk Status and Disk Volume filtering problems corrected.  > >>M > >>     -  Disk free space collection corrected, occasionally reported stale  > >> values. > >>J > >>     -  Single process windows fixes - fixed hangs in data collection. > >> > >>I > >> The Availability Manager kits can be obtained from the following web 
 > >> site: > >>; > >>        www.hp.com/products/openvms/availabilitymanager  > >> > >>C > >> Thank you for using our products.  Let us know if you have any  > >> questions.  > >>" > >> The Availability Manager Team > >> OpenVMS Engineering > > G > > I must say, this is a big improvement! AM is now roughly functional > > > equivalent to AMDS. The fonts being used are ugly, though. > > G > > That said, I still strongly believe that it is unacceptable that AM I > > runs slowly, using 40% of a DS25 CPU with 2 GB of memory (Java 1.5.0, 5 > > Fast VM), while AMDS uses 3% of a DS15 with 1 GB.  >  > Is Java the culprit?  
 Of course!   > > J > > AMDS should continue to be supported, which means supplying .LIB files$ > > for all recent OpenVMS versions! > >  > > Regards, > > 
 > > Bart Zorn  > >    Bart   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Jul 2006 23:37:49 -0700 From: dooleys@snowy.net.au= Subject: Re: Digital^H^H^H^H^H^H^H hp is a "Software" Company C Message-ID: <1154068669.469596.294600@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:5 > In article <tExJPKUSE8YC@eisner.encompasserve.org>, 2 > 	Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:k > > In article <ea7hgd$o5e$1@news-02.connect.com.au>, "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:  > >> Hi, > >>? > >> So what if anything does it mean for VMS and hp direction?  > >>O > >> A quick flick suggests Mercury is better known for fiddling the books with H > >> dodgy share options than software - As much sense as buying Compaq? > >>2 > >> http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/060726/323/ghtqm.html > >> > >> Regards Richard Maher > > H > > What Richard was unwilling to summarize and thus insisted on wasting > > our lookup time with is: > > B > > 	Hewlett Packard is planning on purchasing Mercury Interactive > > 	for 4.5 billion dollars.  > 5 > Which, of course, still didn't answer the question: > >    "what if anything does it mean for VMS and hp direction?" > J > I didn't see any mention of VMS on their website, so is this yet another3 > HP product intended to lead people away from VMS?  > E The mercury products that I am familiar with are actually quite good! ? Winrunner - an automated testing tool for windows applications,  this is somewhat similar to DTM 3 (Disclaimer - I havn't used DTM for about 15 years, ! so I don't know how they compare) A Loadrunner - is a product for stress testing servers, so you know E that your system can support x concurrent users with y response time. > They have pre-built test environments for the big ERP systems,F which saves a lot of time in capacity planning and regression testing. Phil   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:36:50 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> = Subject: Re: Digital^H^H^H^H^H^H^H hp is a "Software" Company ; Message-ID: <42ec7$44c9f6d3$50db5015$24765@news.hispeed.ch>    William Webb wrote: @ > On 26 Jul 2006 04:17:05 -0700, Ian Miller <ijm@uk2.net> wrote: >> various other links >> http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/search/hewlett-packard/SIG=11v2lgtd2/*http%3A//www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1328575.html  >>> >> http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1328575.html >> >> and3 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Interactive  >>+ >> I can't see what they have that hp want.  >> >>J > Am I the only one who's never heard of these Mercury Interactive people? >   E I wasn't sure until I looked it up whether it was the same "Mercury"  G I've seen in connection with the Test Director product, but it appears   it is:  ? http://www.mercury.com/us/products/quality-center/testdirector/    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 05:43:21 -0700* From: "Chris Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com>) Subject: How Do I Find The Root Directory C Message-ID: <1154090601.650432.207540@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>   D How do I display the contents of the root directory in a useful way?  
 Thank you, Christopher Lusardi    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 05:52:08 -0700) From: "Bob Gezelter" <gezelter@rlgsc.com> - Subject: Re: How Do I Find The Root Directory C Message-ID: <1154091128.197904.257740@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>    Chris,  G The OpenVMS file system is organized somewhat differently than the file  system on *IX systems.  6 There is no single equivalent to *IX's root directory.   What are you looking for?   $ - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:02:24 +0100 . From: "David Biddulph" <david@biddulph.org.uk>- Subject: Re: How Do I Find The Root Directory 1 Message-ID: <44ca081f$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net>   6 "Chris Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com> wrote in message = news:1154090601.650432.207540@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... F > How do I display the contents of the root directory in a useful way?   DIR [000000] ? --   David Biddulph     ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 06:12:05 -0700) From: "Bob Gezelter" <gezelter@rlgsc.com> - Subject: Re: How Do I Find The Root Directory B Message-ID: <1154092325.279972.35520@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>   David Biddulph wrote: 7 > "Chris Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com> wrote in message ? > news:1154090601.650432.207540@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... H > > How do I display the contents of the root directory in a useful way? >  > DIR [000000] ? > -- > David Biddulph David,  F With all due respect (WADU) , [000000] refers to the root directory OFC THE CURRENT DEVICE (or LOGICAL DEVICE). It is not the "root" of the @ entire file system as it is in a UNIX/LINUX/AIX... (which I have) started referring to as *IX) environment.   F It need not even be the root directory of a FILES-11 device, it may beD the highest level directory in a subtree respresented by a concealed
 logical name.   $ - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:48:21 +0100 . From: "David Biddulph" <david@biddulph.org.uk>- Subject: Re: How Do I Find The Root Directory 1 Message-ID: <44ca2101$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net>   5 "Bob Gezelter" <gezelter@rlgsc.com> wrote in message  < news:1154092325.279972.35520@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >  > David Biddulph wrote: 8 >> "Chris Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com> wrote in message@ >> news:1154090601.650432.207540@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...I >> > How do I display the contents of the root directory in a useful way?    >> DIR [000000] ?    > David, > H > With all due respect (WADU) , [000000] refers to the root directory OFE > THE CURRENT DEVICE (or LOGICAL DEVICE). It is not the "root" of the B > entire file system as it is in a UNIX/LINUX/AIX... (which I have+ > started referring to as *IX) environment.  > H > It need not even be the root directory of a FILES-11 device, it may beF > the highest level directory in a subtree respresented by a concealed > logical name.   < Agreed, but it wasn't entirely clear what the OP was asking. --   David Biddulph     ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:16:56 +0800 ) From: Tim Sneddon <tesneddon@bigpond.com>   Subject: Re: Mercury Interactive9 Message-ID: <44c99e87$0$30675$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>    Barratt, Chris (FMC) wrote: F > Knowing not much about Decset tools, I wonder whether they are toolsJ > purely for VMS based development, or whether you could use them also for* > Windows/ .NET or Java development also ?  A Not really sure about .NET and integration into the latest Visual C Studio range of products, though there are CMS and MMS clients for  C Windows. The CMS client seems to plug into Visual Studio 6 much the E same way Visual Source Safe does. There was also another package that = plugged into Visual Studio for CMS, I'm not sure if it was in E addition to the Windows CMS client or not (I do believe I have a copy C that I downloaded from the HP website around somewhere). I did look B at using the CMS client for a Windows project, but I got taken offC it before I could do anything with it (now I'm back on it again and ' moving most of the application to VMS).   E As far as Java goes...I've not really used any of the Java IDEs (like @ Netbeans or Eclipse, TECO does me just fine :-) but I do believe? there is some sort of integration for CMS and probably MMS too.   
 Regards, Tim.    --  = Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com    ------------------------------   Date: 28 Jul 2006 11:57:34 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)( Subject: Re: Mercury sell "TestDirector"+ Message-ID: <4iucdeF5i98gU1@individual.net>   ; In article <10fe7$44c9fa06$50db5015$25302@news.hispeed.ch>, 2 	Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> writes: > Paul Sture wrote:  >> William Webb wrote:B >>> On 26 Jul 2006 04:17:05 -0700, Ian Miller <ijm@uk2.net> wrote: >>>> various other links >>>> http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/search/hewlett-packard/SIG=11v2lgtd2/*http%3A//www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1328575.html  >>>>@ >>>> http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1328575.html >>>> >>>> and5 >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Interactive  >>>>- >>>> I can't see what they have that hp want.  >>>> >>>>L >>> Am I the only one who's never heard of these Mercury Interactive people? >>>  >>  H >> I wasn't sure until I looked it up whether it was the same "Mercury" J >> I've seen in connection with the Test Director product, but it appears 	 >> it is:  >>  B >> http://www.mercury.com/us/products/quality-center/testdirector/ > K > To gauge how popular the product is, I just fed "Test Director" into the  < > job search at www.jobserve.com and got over 7,000 matches.  C Somehow, I doubt that any of those jobs has anything to do with the B Mercury products.  A "Test Director" is not necessarily even an IT job.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:50:29 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> $ Subject: Mercury sell "TestDirector"; Message-ID: <10fe7$44c9fa06$50db5015$25302@news.hispeed.ch>    Paul Sture wrote:  > William Webb wrote: A >> On 26 Jul 2006 04:17:05 -0700, Ian Miller <ijm@uk2.net> wrote:  >>> various other links  >>> http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/search/hewlett-packard/SIG=11v2lgtd2/*http%3A//www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1328575.html   >>> ? >>> http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1328575.html  >>>  >>> and 4 >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Interactive >>> , >>> I can't see what they have that hp want. >>>  >>> K >> Am I the only one who's never heard of these Mercury Interactive people?  >> > G > I wasn't sure until I looked it up whether it was the same "Mercury"  I > I've seen in connection with the Test Director product, but it appears   > it is: > A > http://www.mercury.com/us/products/quality-center/testdirector/   I To gauge how popular the product is, I just fed "Test Director" into the  : job search at www.jobserve.com and got over 7,000 matches.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:07:38 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> ( Subject: Re: Mercury sell "TestDirector": Message-ID: <a27b$44ca0c1c$50db5015$30676@news.hispeed.ch>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:= > In article <10fe7$44c9fa06$50db5015$25302@news.hispeed.ch>, 4 > 	Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> writes: >> Paul Sture wrote: >>> William Webb wrote: C >>>> On 26 Jul 2006 04:17:05 -0700, Ian Miller <ijm@uk2.net> wrote:  >>>>> various other links  >>>>> http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/search/hewlett-packard/SIG=11v2lgtd2/*http%3A//www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1328575.html   >>>>> A >>>>> http://www.newratings.com/analyst_news/article_1328575.html  >>>>> 	 >>>>> and 6 >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Interactive >>>>> . >>>>> I can't see what they have that hp want. >>>>>  >>>>> M >>>> Am I the only one who's never heard of these Mercury Interactive people?  >>>>I >>> I wasn't sure until I looked it up whether it was the same "Mercury"  K >>> I've seen in connection with the Test Director product, but it appears  
 >>> it is: >>> C >>> http://www.mercury.com/us/products/quality-center/testdirector/ L >> To gauge how popular the product is, I just fed "Test Director" into the = >> job search at www.jobserve.com and got over 7,000 matches.  > E > Somehow, I doubt that any of those jobs has anything to do with the D > Mercury products.  A "Test Director" is not necessarily even an IT > job. >   H I apologize; I burped with my search. putting "test director" in quotes A reveals only 354 jobs. Looking at that shows that there's a fair  + smattering of the Mercury product in there.   A I have actually enquired in the past about vacancies for a "Test  B Director" only to find out that Mercury Certification is required.   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 09:05:50 -0700 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk
 Subject: MOPs C Message-ID: <1154102750.356430.223400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   B Interesting that Hoff mentions MOP/LAD/LAST in his blog on systems management of VMS ( G http://h20325.www2.hp.com/blogs/hoffman/archive/2006/07/28/1396.html ). 5  Isn't MOP being missed out in the port to Integrity?    Steve    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 09:27:58 -0700 From: wilmesr@hotmail.com 4 Subject: page_setup and a signature 'font' on a dimmB Message-ID: <1154104078.511613.119630@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   hi,   6 We've purchased a dimm from HP with a signature on it.  E This is the current working escape sequence to print the signature on 0 the Laserjet 4000 that the dimm is installed in.  . <ESC>*p1500x2000Y<ESC>(1Q<ESC>(s1p36.0v0s0b0TS  F I can get the signature to print if I embed the escape sequence withinF the file being sent to the printer.  This will *probably* work to suit= our needs however I'd like to avoid mucking around within the 7 application that will ultimately be doing the printing.   F The best solution would be to have the print queue print the signatureD at the given location on every page that it recieves (i can dedicate+ the queue for these particular print jobs).   C I created a control library and inserted the module with the escape D sequence then created a form that uses the module as the page_setup.E Doing this I can get the signature on every page but because I didn't E reset the font none of the text printed.  I updated the module with a E 'reset to default' directly after the font selection escape sequence.   4 <ESC>*p1500x2000Y<ESC>(1Q<ESC>(s1p36.0v0s0b0TS<ESC>E  G The thought was that the page_setup would load the signature then reset F to the default font and the printer would accept and print the rest of the incoming data on that page.     No joy.   Any thoughts anyone ?  Bueller?    Thanks in advance! RW   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 07:35:56 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org. Subject: Re: PIPE redirection as stream file ?3 Message-ID: <Nrm8l3Jw1Buk@eisner.encompasserve.org>   m In article <Pine.LNX.4.61.0607271646170.32335@localhost.localdomain>, Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com> writes: $ > On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote: >  >>> /* File vms_1st_inc.h */ >>> #include <stdio.h>4 >>> #define fopen(a, b, c) fopen(a, b, c, "ctx=stm") >>E >> would that works on stdout, especially when redirected in a PIPE ?   J [I'm seeing Pierre's posts come in rather late, so piggy-backing on Rob's]  E No, that does not work on stdout when redirected in a PIPE.  At least  not when I tested it.    #include <stdio>    int main(int argc,char argv[]) { 	FILE * output_file; 	char string[]="foo\n";    	int i;   =         output_file = fopen ( "SYS$OUTPUT", "w", "ctx=stm" ); +         i = fwrite(string,1,4,output_file);          return 1;  }  $ dele foo.dat;*  $ pipe r test /nodebug > foo.dat $ dir /fu foo.dat   - Directory EISNER$DRA3:[DECUSERVE_USER.BRIGGS]   > FOO.DAT;1                     File ID:  (103554,2731,0)        ... G Record format:      VFC, 2 byte header, maximum 0 bytes, longest 1 byte / Record attributes:  Print file carriage control  ...  Total of 1 file, 1/3 blocks. $ dump foo.datH Dump of file EISNER$DRA3:[DECUSERVE_USER.BRIGGS]FOO.DAT;1 on 28-JUL-2006; File ID (103554,2731,0)   End of file block 1 / Allocated 3   3 Virtual block number 1 (00000001), 512 (0200) bytes   <  00000003 006F0000 00030066 00010003 ....f.....o..... 000000<  00000000 00000000 FFFF0000 0002006F o............... 000010  ; That's a byte count of 3 bytes for the first record (0003), 9 carriage control information of 0001 in the VFC field and = record contents of 66 ("f"), one null byte of record padding, = byte count of 3 bytes for the second record, carriage control ; information of 0000, record contents of 6F ("o"), null pad, B byte count of 3 bytes for the third record, null carriage control,@ record contents of 64 ("o"), null pad, byte count of 2 bytes for; the third record, carriage control information (line feed), ? no record contents and a sentinel byte count of FFFF indicating  end of file.  @ Further testing seems to indicate that ctx=stm does not work for VFC format files.   ; The symptoms I get are that ctx=stm is ignored for PPFs and ? that ctx=stm makes the fopen fail for VFC format files that are 	 not PPFs.   @ The behavior when ctx=stm works is that the record attributes ofB the target file are ignored and the raw stream of bytes is sprayed into the file.  F > Dunno.  The real question is "can you change the characteristics of H > stdout?"  Would closing it and then open it as above do what we want? I > Hardly transparent at the source level, but you could bracket in a #IF   > VMS or something.   F A serious problem that you have with SYS$OUTPUT (which is, by default,E mapped as stdout) is that it is most often opened by DCL as a process C permanent file.  That means that it is opened as an RMS file in the A supervisor.  You can open and close it all day in a C program but = all you're opening and closing is a pointer to the underlying  permanently open record stream.   F You are restricted in the funny games you can play with the SYS$OUTPUTG logical name because DCL monitors it.  After every command, it looks to E see if SYS$OUTPUT has been changed and, if so, it automatically opens E up whatever is pointed to as a process permenant file and stashes the ! resulting name+IFI in SYS$OUTPUT.   E A more serious problem that you have with SYS$OUTPUT is that if it is E a PPF open on a disk file, it is _always_ a disk file with VFC record = attributes.  (I've never understood DCL's obsession with VFC)    $ create foo.dat $ open q foo.dat /read /write  $ define sys$output q , %DCL-E-OPENOUT, error opening Q:.; as output% -RMS-F-RAT, invalid record attributes  $ define sys$output foo.dat;1 T %DCL-E-OPENOUT, error opening EISNER$DRA3:[DECUSERVE_USER.BRIGGS]FOO.DAT;1 as output/ -RMS-E-FEX, file already exists, not superseded   E And since you can't get "CTX=stm" to take on a VFC file, you're stuck D in terms of redirection in a PIPE or by supervisor mode redefinition of SYS$OUTPUT.  E If you want stdout to map to SYS$OUTPUT and you want SYS$OUTPUT to be J defined from the command line, $ DEFINE /USER appears to be the way to go.  K You may get some success doing a reopen on stdout if it has been redirected  in this manner.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:05:01 GMT , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>. Subject: Re: PIPE redirection as stream file ?1 Message-ID: <hQoyg.1236$jl3.183@news.cpqcorp.net>   
 Pierre wrote:   E > the shell which runs the examples that serve a validation runs uses  > idioms like: > / > xmlstarlet --some-params 2>/etc/nul ; echo $?  >  > one converted to DCL into  > ? > $ PIPE ( xmlstarlet --some-params 2> NLA0: ; write sys$output  > $STATUS.and.%X0FFFFFFF )  I    Use GNV, and use the shell.  Run it where it expects to be run.  That  0 has a shot of working as this test tool expects.  C    This existing code is obviously completely system-specific, and  F you're likely going to be chasing differences for a while here as you  try to go fully native.   F    Perl or php would be a far more portable approach than using shell G scripts -- if I were seeking to fix this, I'd fix it such that the fix  H entirely replaces the existing platform-dependence and not to add a new G and different platform-dependence into the code base.  There are other  E testing tools around that deal with this more directly, and that use  I Perl or other such portable languages for this processing.  If the shell  H code goes away, everybody is likely just as happy, and the code is more 	 portable.   I The other obvious option (for a direct and platform-specific port) is to  C use the lib$spawn or similar such mechanism, as this allows you to  F redirect the output into NLA0:, and to acquire the final status back. H Directly.  (I'm here assuming that something in the test suite is using G system() to invoke a sequence of commands.  This approach replaces all  F the PIPE stuff, since it appears all that matters is the exit status.)   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:50:40 GMT % From: Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com> . Subject: Re: PIPE redirection as stream file ?D Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0607280830550.9639@localhost.localdomain>  " On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote:   >  > Rob Brown wrote:  % >> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Pierre wrote:   G >> Dunno.  The real question is "can you change the characteristics of  C >> stdout?"  Would closing it and then open it as above do what we  G >> want? Hardly transparent at the source level, but you could bracket   >> in a #IF VMS or something.  > C > the real-real question (related to the title of my original post  D > "PIPE redirection as stream file ?") is how to make PIPE have its ! > input/output be stream "files".   D I disagree that this is the real-real question.  But since you ask, E the way to make PIPE have its input be a stream file is to give it a  G stream file as input.  There is no way to make PIPE have its output be   a stream file.  F Your original complaint was that there were empty lines in the output G from the pipe.  We have demonstrated that converting the file you have  D to a stream file retains the empty lines and shown that your sample E code explicitly puts empty lines if the file not a stream file.  And  G we have seen that the empty lines are present even if there is no pipe  	 involved.   D It has been suggested that if the application explicitly opened the < output as a stream file, then you might not get empty lines.  C There is no syntax to change the file type of the input to a pipe.  A The input is what is given to it.  If you need the input to be a  E stream then you have to give it a stream.  Hence the suggestion that  ; you experiment with changing the characteristics of stdout.    JMO      --    B Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o m6 G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (780)438-9343 (voice)4 Edmonton                         (780)437-3367 (FAX)2                                   http://gmcl.com/   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:06:42 +0200 2 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jean-Fran=E7ois_Pi=E9ronne?=1 Subject: Re: Tomcat user authentication question. 4 Message-ID: <44c9c59a$0$847$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr>   Arne Vajhj a crit :  > Jean-Franois Pironne wrote:  >  >> Arne Vajhj wrote:  >>? >>> Considering that Tomcat is *not* a web server but a servlet 9 >>> container, then I doubt that WASD would do much good.  >> >>H >> but Webware + WASD can do this and more (running the server under the >> authenticate user account). >  > , > Webware is not a servlet container either. >   ( Webware is a Python servlet container...   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:11:08 +0200 1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Fran=E7ois_Pi=E9ronne?= 1 Subject: Re: Tomcat user authentication question. 4 Message-ID: <44c9c6a4$0$840$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr>   Neil Rieck a crit :F > "Jean-Franois Pironne" <jf.pieronne@laposte.net> wrote in message 0 > news:44c89061$0$895$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr... >  >>Arne Vajhj wrote: >  > [...snip...] >  >>G >>but Webware + WASD can do this and more (running the server under the  >>authenticate user account).  >> >>JF >  > & > Under the authenticate user account? >  > Could you expand on this?  >   G WASD can start a process under the authenticate user, and Webware which E is a Python application server can run under the user account, and as F Webware use much less ressources than a Tomcat type server you can runE multiple instances of the server without any problem, also WASD has a > throttling mechanism wich allow to serve sequentially multiple9 simultaneous request.  I know sites which are doing this.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:09:42 GMT , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>1 Subject: Re: Tomcat user authentication question. 1 Message-ID: <GUoyg.1237$xo3.108@news.cpqcorp.net>    Jean-Franois Pironne wrote:   * > Webware is a Python servlet container...  /    Which replaces the canary cummerbund carafe? 2    %SYSTEM-F-BFOVRF, buzz-phrase overflow detected9    -SYSTEM-I-NNTPDEOF, unexpected end of posting detected     [no carrier]       :-)   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 02:36:32 -0700 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk) Subject: Re: Upgrading disks in Shadowset C Message-ID: <1154079392.344984.221960@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>   > I used to agree with the disk to disk is faster, no questions.G However, having been on site with a colleague doing a data copy for one ( of our clients, I'm no longer convinced.  G Scenario was an Ultrium 460 tape drive and various RAIDed disk volumes, E each of less than the capacity of a 146GB disk that we had spare.  We F had assumed that the backup to tape and restore from tape would be the; slower method so started an image backup from disk to disk.   G The backup from disk to disk was horrendously slow compared to the tape F - we managed to do the tape backups and restores for the other volumesE in the time that one disk-to-disk backup took.  We abandoned the disk  backup in the end.  E Hardware was (IIRC) as DS20E with two 833 EV68 processors in it.  The " JBOD target was in the host shelf.   Steve    Richard Brodie wrote: 6 > "Dave Froble" <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in message5 > news:6ZmdnSWokOPFsVTZnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@libcom.com...  > > etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk wrote:  > [ > > Interesting observation, and I'm not challenging it.  However, using tape, it's two (2) \ > > copy operations, not one.  I'd be surprised if this is faster.  Possibly you're claimingL > > that the copy to tape is faster than the copy to disk.  Can you clarify? > C > Copy to tape is often way faster than copy to disk, especially if ? > you have no write cache. You keep having to write and rewrite < > file system metadata, with associated seeks. Using DDS/DVE > saves you this pain.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:52:31 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> ) Subject: Re: Upgrading disks in Shadowset ; Message-ID: <36605$44ca0890$50db5015$30159@news.hispeed.ch>    etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk wrote: @ > I used to agree with the disk to disk is faster, no questions.I > However, having been on site with a colleague doing a data copy for one * > of our clients, I'm no longer convinced. > I > Scenario was an Ultrium 460 tape drive and various RAIDed disk volumes, G > each of less than the capacity of a 146GB disk that we had spare.  We H > had assumed that the backup to tape and restore from tape would be the= > slower method so started an image backup from disk to disk.  > I > The backup from disk to disk was horrendously slow compared to the tape H > - we managed to do the tape backups and restores for the other volumesG > in the time that one disk-to-disk backup took.  We abandoned the disk  > backup in the end. >   @ I'm going many years to slow hardware with this, but it's worth " mentioning if you have slow tapes.  : If you are doing disk to disk then back again (e.g. for a I reinitialization of the original disk with new parameters), you can save   time by doing:  ; backup/image disk 1 to saveset on disk 2 as the first step.   G This means that you are doing sequential writes on the backup and then    sequential reads on the restore.   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2006 19:23:32 -02006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)4 Subject: [DCL] How to identify a EV6 or EV7 reliable, Message-ID: <44ca6434$1@news.langstoeger.at>  G Does anyone know, if there is a reliable/documented way to identify the  processor class of an Alpha?  J Say I want to identify an EV6[|7|8] vs. an EV5[|A] without eg. listing allH known EV5 systems model numbers vs. listing all known EV6 model numbers.  * (I think, I should RTFM and the FAQ again)   TIA    -EPLAN   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.417 ************************