1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 30 Jul 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 420       Contents:/ Re: "get" function in HP's sftp fails sometimes  Re: An opportunity for VMS Re: An opportunity for VMS Re: Cards supported by XP1000 4 Re: Digital^H^H^H^H^H^H^H hp is a "Software" CompanyP Re: Mercury Interactive (was: Re: Digital^H^H^H^H^H^H^H hp is a  "Software"Compa( Re: Tomcat user authentication question.( Re: Tomcat user authentication question.( Re: Tomcat user authentication question.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:09:47 -0400 ' From: Rich Whalen <whalenr@process.com> 8 Subject: Re: "get" function in HP's sftp fails sometimes8 Message-ID: <t7cnc2hgs1q08j2voiuepndpa24kuvdfsh@4ax.com>  / On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:01:34 GMT, Jack Patteeuw ! <jack.patteeuw@nospam.net> wrote:   > Protocol version 4 and later of the SSH File Transfer Protocol> includes a text/ascii mode.  Only of some of the products haveE upgraded to this (or a later) version of the protocol.  The ones that " I am familiar with are as follows:  @ MultiNet/TCPware/SSH for OpenVMS from Process Software version 4" SecureFX from VanDyke 			version 4 WinSCP					version 5   OpenSSH					version 3   ' TCP/IP Services SSH from HP			version 3   J >sftp (regardless of the OS) does not support "ascii" file transfer; only  >binary. > J >If you are using a VMS client sftp and you know the byte level format of I >the "ascii" file on the remote system (ie DOS or UNIX), then you should  I >be able to use SET FILE/ATTRIBUTE to "correct" the binary transfer into    >something that RMS understands. >  > 
 >Palda wrote:  >> Hi, >>  C >> I have got the solution already. The error was caused by "ascii" J >> transfer mode which does not work for HP's sftp client. The binary mode >> works OK :) >>   >> Regards,  >> Jiri  >>     ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:28:29 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: An opportunity for VMS , Message-ID: <44CBFD23.55F1D36B@teksavvy.com>  
 AEF wrote:F > Someone at Sky and Telescope wrote an opinion piece about it being aI > waste of money. We're talking 10's of billions of dollars here for lame  > experiments.      H People misunderstand the space station. The real experiments are not theC crews watching crystals grow in a test tube over 3 months. The real F experiments is debuigging and learning to fix the various systems thatG routinely fail on the station, and learning to design reliable systems.   H For instance, the russian O2 generator has had many many hiccups. And itG lacks some debugging sensors, and this requires a lot of disassembly to 
 check out.  C The USA just sent its version of an O2 generator, but NASA , in its D wisdom, won't turn it on for at least a year. What a mistake. You'llF have a stale system, and one less year of tests to evaluabel its MTBF.  H The station may be in orbit, but it is in 0g, and is the perfect testbed$ to evaluate MTBF of various systems.  G Consider that in a 2 year mission to mars and back, you'll need to have F a very good handle of the MTBF of any/all systems on board so that youB have have enough spare parts, and the tools needed to make all theE necessary fixes. And that is something you need to experiment with on  the station.  D NASA, has decided to move ahead some with research, so now, they areD sending out seeds for some weed to watch it grow. For Christ's sake,B send seeds for lettuce and tomatoes and try to grow them. There is* absolutely no point in watching weed grow.  F But despite that, the station itself is a huge advance in technoology,D and a HUGE step forward in multiple space agencies working together.G Learning how Russia works, what it can be relied upon and what it can't F is very important when the time comes to work together to build a marsH expedition ship (which will be a glorified space station with additional shielding and bigger engines).    D While it is correct to state that NASA's "experiments" division haveG grosly underused the station with very unimpressive research, there are 2 portion of teh station that do provide much value.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:42:47 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: An opportunity for VMS , Message-ID: <44CC007C.7CF94D55@teksavvy.com>  
 AEF wrote:I > Is this about the team that put a single human 62 miles above the Earth F > for a few seconds? That's not even a partial orbit around the Earth,H > much less the Moon or Mars. Well, why haven't they gotten to Mars yet?  E In fairness to tha Rutan project, while there are nowhere near "space F travel", they have developped a very cheap Mach 3 vehicle that runs on> nitrous oxide (laughing gas) and thus quite safe and cheap and re-usable.    E This should not be compared with shuttle or Soyuz (designed for space = travel) but rather to the old experimental X15 type vehicles.   E What is amazing about those vehicles is that they were developed with 3 budgets that would be just pocket change for NASA.    D *IF* for a tiny sum of money (relative to NASA), they could add heatC shields to their carbon fibre and fibre glass vehicle, perhaps they A woudl be able to increase speed to around mach 25 needed to reach D orbit,. and then come back and decelerate safely without burning up,* THEN that would be a huge accomplishement.  I But guess what: the heat shield issue is a major technological challenge.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:36:00 -0400 / From: "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> & Subject: Re: Cards supported by XP1000I Message-ID: <8660a3a10607291336x1455fc9awcb5bcaf9cd204859@mail.gmail.com>   M On 27 Jul 2006 19:19:28 GMT, healyzh@aracnet.com <healyzh@aracnet.com> wrote: $ > Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:D > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:29:18 -0700, <healyzh@aracnet.com> wrote: > 8 > > > I currently have the following in my "new" XP1000. > > >  > > > KZPSA (Wide Diff SCSI) > > > PowerStorm 300' > > > KZPCA (U2/LVD SCSI, 53C895 based)  > > > N > > > I need Narrow SCSI for the TLZ06 I use to transfer data to my PDP-11.  IN > > > have the following additional SCSI Cards.  I've heard there is a problemI > > > with the KZPAA in an XP1000, and I see David's site lists it as not 
 > > > working N > > > with 53C895 controllers.  As a result I'm guessing the KZPAA is out, but	 > > > can H > > > I use the KZPBA-CA for Narrow SCSI (at one point I was in my PWS). > : > > Yes, just get a 68 -> 50 pin adapter ( < $10 at Fry's) > L > I was actually thinking about using the Narrow connection on the KZPBA-CA.H > While it's not supported, it works (at least on the PWS).  If I go theN > 68->50 pin adapter route (one came with the system), I'll see about pluggingN > it into the SCSI on the mainboard.  This probably makes the most sense, as I& > have no other use for that SCSI Bus. > N > > > QLZ1041B).  In the long run I hope to add a GigE card (don't have that). > ; > > I have 3 DEGPA-SA  that I would be willing to part with  > M > Those are Fibre rather than CAT5, right?  I've been debating which would be N > cheaper, a way to connect a pair of GigE fibre cards into a 10/100/1000BaseTM > network, or to just get CAT5 cards.  In the long run I want to move both my M > XP1000 and SunBlade 1000 to GigE (VMS is most imporant), and in both cases, J > fibre cards are far cheaper.  I'm also tempted to try the HP NC7771 GigE3 > card, though I'm pretty sure that is unsupported.  >  >                 Zane >  >   4 Y'all need to be more precise with your terminology.  D Determining what is supported on the XP1000 merely requires a bit ofC online searching (or flipping through the proper S&O catalog if you 	 have it);   E Determining what works requires adding or removing hardware, followed A by the application of electricity and, in some cases, AUTOCONFIG.    Cheers,    WWWebb --   I'm job-hunting, folks. < Any leads or referrals would be most gratefully appreciated.1 Unsolicited commercial email, however, would not.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:35:54 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> = Subject: Re: Digital^H^H^H^H^H^H^H hp is a "Software" Company , Message-ID: <44CBFEE0.266150DF@teksavvy.com>   Robert Deininger wrote: J > Absolutely.  HP is spending $4.5 Billion for the sole purpose of getting > customers away from VMS.   Can we quote you on this ?  C Along with the statement from Hoff that HP has no plans to port VMS G beyond IA64 gives a lot of credence that HP is really intent on killing / VMS ;-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) ;-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:50:42 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Y Subject: Re: Mercury Interactive (was: Re: Digital^H^H^H^H^H^H^H hp is a  "Software"Compa , Message-ID: <44CC0257.6B50DF64@teksavvy.com>   Hoff Hoffman wrote: H >     Quantum Physics does theorizes that the flapping of the wings of aJ > butterfly in the Amazon will eventually provide fodder for postings here* > in the comp.os.vms newsgroup, after all.    B Any chance that this butterfly's flapping of wings might get HP to= change its mind about refusing to have plans to port VMS to a  viable/succesful platform ?    :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:54:47 -0400 7 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> 1 Subject: Re: Tomcat user authentication question. . Message-ID: <ChNyg.72345$fG3.29006@dukeread09>   Jean-Franois Pironne wrote:  > Arne Vajhj a crit : - >> Webware is not a servlet container either.  > * > Webware is a Python servlet container...  , So I rephrase: Webware is not a Java servlet
 container.  1 So what can the original poster use Webware for ?    Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:59:43 +0200 2 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jean-Fran=E7ois_Pi=E9ronne?=1 Subject: Re: Tomcat user authentication question. 5 Message-ID: <44cbcc4a$0$1022$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr>    Arne Vajhj a crit :  > Jean-Franois Pironne wrote:  >  >> Arne Vajhj a crit : >>. >>> Webware is not a servlet container either. >> >>+ >> Webware is a Python servlet container...  >  > . > So I rephrase: Webware is not a Java servlet > container. > 3 > So what can the original poster use Webware for ?  >   
 reply offline    > Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:07:12 +0930 * From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@vsm.com.au>1 Subject: Re: Tomcat user authentication question. 0 Message-ID: <12cnopnsih0g1f9@corp.supernews.com>   Jean-Franois Pironne wrote:  > Arne Vajhj a crit :  >  >>Jean-Franois Pironne wrote:  >> >> >>>Arne Vajhj a crit : >>>  >>> . >>>>Webware is not a servlet container either. >>>  >>> + >>>Webware is a Python servlet container...  >> >>. >>So I rephrase: Webware is not a Java servlet >>container. >>3 >>So what can the original poster use Webware for ?  >> >  >  > reply offline   E Considering the marginal relevance of much of the discussion in this  G forum on occasion (just PPO) I'd rather have seen a (perhaps shortish)  E discussion about the utility of Python as an application development   environment for VMS on-line.  E Obviously the nitty-gritty of developing under Python is a topic for  > other fora (VMS-specifics aside) but the availability of such H cross-platform tools as Python, PHP, Perl, etc., provides a significant I layer of functionality and ready-made applications.  In a period where a  H Web/browser interface to many applications is required the availability G of RAD environments such as [insert-one-of-the-above] Server Pages and  C the likes of Webware on VMS, is something that should receive more  
 attention.  I In contrast to Java applications, which in my experience while generally  I portable and widely supported are fatally resource-hungry on VMS, Python  E (for example) is significantly more light-weight and I'd say just as  	 portable.   F In the opinion of some I know who have developed significant software I systems in both (not on VMS and not JFP), Python projects seem easier to  C manage and developer productivity greater.  This suggests that for  G one-off, in-house, 'extreme programming' or highly dynamic development  G environments, and when developing for a niche (read small) market such  - as VMS, Python would be a justifiable choice.   E Often there is also functionality available not present in any other  D general way on VMS (e.g. MIME, SGML, all sorts of application-level F network protocols, etc.)  In addition the OS-specific modules for VMS G (e.g. systems services and products such as RDB) made available by JFP  E allow a substantial level of VMS-specific functionality where needed.    >  >>Arne   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.420 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        UF-ؒUFA6#>q[<Ĳt-1d:h`GC갥d>JcKCdI<62NfoeؒڛNtض$V-ؒtN강~r/*_"Gb4Jn*4#ZM5;5nQhFg%Ʀɝ?.$Hpbu\S!9NrTNll&|. 5E>*UTUFjBBˏ V:Lꪞ}ܬZܛk{fvfOv5z~r3uڟszdjzNQ9א =XpU:y{PhmqGkx{lrXh,5ۂF*.ekYж&.<fuiIOaA۪9x{q:;۱oOW7Ѷ%"<ӒͶ =)ͶMgضЙeͶ =hugFl{FΓM癖5ۂͶJ&]#M ymiRdTa><l҃UqIͶ3Mc!s{☋q<ӒӚmAzжŜ'ٖmms tiION-H<z556fs} =r5$TZ*)mcWYs =hJӢog^;zXLWqdm:ϴW-Hڶhm6'ww.m.
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