1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 16 Jun 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 333       Contents: DPMS X extension support? Re: Has any version of VMS ever received an A1 security rating? ? Re: Has any version of VMS ever received an A1 security rating? ? Re: Has any version of VMS ever received an A1 security rating? ? Re: Has any version of VMS ever received an A1 security rating? % Re: How can I read a locked VMS file? % Re: How can I read a locked VMS file? % Re: How can I read a locked VMS file? 0 Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down?0 Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down?0 Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down?0 Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down?0 Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down?0 Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down?$ Re: Pathworks authentication problem$ Re: Pathworks authentication problem. Re: Question about number of Vax System owners. Re: Question about number of Vax System owners$ Re: Sending HTML mail from VMS MAIL?$ Re: Sending HTML mail from VMS MAIL?
 VMS at ebay ?  Re: VMS at ebay ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:29:46 +0100 * From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>! Subject: DPMS X extension support 2 Message-ID: <e6uipa$4ja$1@blackmamba.itd.rl.ac.uk>  E Has anyone been able to talk to the DPMS X server extension from VMS? K For a number of displays, I'd like to do the equivalent of "xset -dpms" but = there doesn't seem to be any support, even at the Xlib level.  This is on OpenVMS/Alpha, 8.2.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:39:32 GMT , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>H Subject: Re: Has any version of VMS ever received an A1 security rating?1 Message-ID: <8Exkg.1970$sq1.279@news.cpqcorp.net>    Dan Foster wrote: L > In article <Fgpkg.1307$uz5.17@fe04.lga>, Z <SpamDumpst3r@yahoo.com> wrote:) >> Please help me settle a (virtual) bet.  > D > I seem to recall having heard of at least one customized [at greatC > expense] VAX/VMS version that achieved the Orange Book A1 rating.  >   I    The package that the paper is citing -- variously known as SVS, or as  H the VVAX Virtual VAX -- did not receive an A1 evaluation, and was never  released as a product.  =    http://doi.ieeecomputersociety.org/10.1109/RISP.1990.63834    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:10:17 -0600 6 From: "Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam>H Subject: Re: Has any version of VMS ever received an A1 security rating?, Message-ID: <Z4ykg.2$0_.335@news.uswest.net>     K The only OS I have ever heard of that received an A1 was at Boeing.  It was D a custom, from the ground up, development for internal Boeing use onF military projects.  I don't believe any commercial network OS has ever# received the Orange Book A1 rating.   
 Mike Ober.  - "Z" <SpamDumpst3r@yahoo.com> wrote in message " news:Fgpkg.1307$uz5.17@fe04.lga...( > Please help me settle a (virtual) bet. >    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:40:31 GMT , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>H Subject: Re: Has any version of VMS ever received an A1 security rating?0 Message-ID: <jxykg.1974$nt1.27@news.cpqcorp.net>   Michael D. Ober wrote: >   M > The only OS I have ever heard of that received an A1 was at Boeing.  It was F > a custom, from the ground up, development for internal Boeing use onH > military projects.  I don't believe any commercial network OS has ever% > received the Orange Book A1 rating.   I    It appears to be off-net right now, but the following is/was the site  ) with the list of NCSC evaluated products:   #    http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/   "    NCSC A1 ratings are quite rare.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:25:58 -0400   From: "DBT" <dbturner@icusc.com>H Subject: Re: Has any version of VMS ever received an A1 security rating?0 Message-ID: <1295jdq42vabhb6@news.supernews.com>  + Out of curiosity, WHO did get an A1 rating?    IBM?   --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X251  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html   - "Z" <SpamDumpst3r@yahoo.com> wrote in message " news:Fgpkg.1307$uz5.17@fe04.lga...( > Please help me settle a (virtual) bet.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jun 2006 06:28:50 -0700 From: StevensSpam@cfl.rr.com. Subject: Re: How can I read a locked VMS file?B Message-ID: <1150464530.890688.27230@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  G Wow, DUMP/ALLOCATED worked! I really doubted there would be a solution.  Thanks! You are amazing.     Thanks!!   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:40:06 GMT % From: Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com> . Subject: Re: How can I read a locked VMS file?E Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0606160933470.12331@localhost.localdomain>   J   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,K   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.   & --8323328-1317227818-1150472405=:12331; Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT   $ On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, JF Mezei wrote:   > John Santos wrote:? >> You will probably still end up with the EOF pointing to the  C >> beginning of the file (directory shows 0/xxx for the size), but  D >> BACKUP should copy whatever has actually been written to the disk >  > Can anyone confirm this ?   B I did some experiments with VMS/Alpha V7.1.  It appears that this * approach does not give the desired result.   This is what I did:     $ open/write/share f openlog.txt7 $ write f "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"   E I repeated the write statement until a $DIRECTORY command on another  G terminal showed that an extent had been added to the file.  Then I did  / the backup command, with the following results:   8 $ backup/ignore=interlock openlog.txt;0 copy.txt/log/newC %BACKUP-W-ACCONFLICT, DISK$8:[BROWN.TEMP]OPENLOG.TXT;2 is open for   write by another user 8 %BACKUP-S-CREATED, created DISK$8:[BROWN.TEMP]COPY.TXT;9$ $ dir/size=all/date openlog.txt,copy   Directory DISK$8:[BROWN.TEMP]   = OPENLOG.TXT;2              0/12       16-JUN-2006 09:30:50.51 = COPY.TXT;9                 0/12       16-JUN-2006 09:30:50.51  ... ' $ dump/allocated/block=count=1 copy.txt   E Dump of file DISK$8:[BROWN.TEMP]COPY.TXT;9 on 16-JUN-2006 09:32:35.25 9 File ID (28737,18,0)   End of file block 0 / Allocated 12   3 Virtual block number 1 (00000001), 512 (0200) bytes   <   0000A400 03000100 0000A500 0100054F O............. 000000 ...   E As you can see, it does not say "the quick brown fox" anywhere here.  E Doing a SET FILE/END COPY.TXT does not change anything.  The data is  
 not there.   :-(      --    B Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o m6 G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (780)438-9343 (voice)4 Edmonton                         (780)437-3367 (FAX)2                                   http://gmcl.com/  ( --8323328-1317227818-1150472405=:12331--   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:51:35 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> . Subject: Re: How can I read a locked VMS file?9 Message-ID: <vu2dnXURG58ZfQ_ZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@libcom.com>    Rob Brown wrote:& > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, JF Mezei wrote: >  >> John Santos wrote: J >>> You will probably still end up with the EOF pointing to the beginning H >>> of the file (directory shows 0/xxx for the size), but BACKUP should 7 >>> copy whatever has actually been written to the disk  >> >> Can anyone confirm this ? > D > I did some experiments with VMS/Alpha V7.1.  It appears that this , > approach does not give the desired result. >  > This is what I did:  > " > $ open/write/share f openlog.txt9 > $ write f "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"  > G > I repeated the write statement until a $DIRECTORY command on another  I > terminal showed that an extent had been added to the file.  Then I did  1 > the backup command, with the following results:  > : > $ backup/ignore=interlock openlog.txt;0 copy.txt/log/newK > %BACKUP-W-ACCONFLICT, DISK$8:[BROWN.TEMP]OPENLOG.TXT;2 is open for write   > by another user : > %BACKUP-S-CREATED, created DISK$8:[BROWN.TEMP]COPY.TXT;9& > $ dir/size=all/date openlog.txt,copy >  > Directory DISK$8:[BROWN.TEMP]  > ? > OPENLOG.TXT;2              0/12       16-JUN-2006 09:30:50.51 ? > COPY.TXT;9                 0/12       16-JUN-2006 09:30:50.51  > ... ) > $ dump/allocated/block=count=1 copy.txt  > G > Dump of file DISK$8:[BROWN.TEMP]COPY.TXT;9 on 16-JUN-2006 09:32:35.25 ; > File ID (28737,18,0)   End of file block 0 / Allocated 12  > 5 > Virtual block number 1 (00000001), 512 (0200) bytes  > = >  0000A400 03000100 0000A500 0100054F O............. 000000  > ...  > G > As you can see, it does not say "the quick brown fox" anywhere here.  K > Doing a SET FILE/END COPY.TXT does not change anything.  The data is not   > there. >  > :-(  >  >   E An interesting experiment, and not the results I would have expected.   F Are you running some type of caching product that does not do a write  through to disk?  I When a file extent is added, I would expect the cause would be a need to  F write (more) data to disk than there is currently allocated filespace.  9 The BACKUP >>should<< pick up all allocated disk storage.   / Regardless, your result overrides expectations.   H The 'proper' place to handle such is in the application writing the log  file.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:41:44 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 9 Subject: Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down? , Message-ID: <44924472.8BB30C1B@teksavvy.com>   David B Sneddon wrote:0 > Does anyone at management level within HP have7 > a f**king clue about anything?  How many times has it 1 > been stated here and in other places, and AFAIK 4 > letters have been sent to HP about the need for an2 > affordable small business system running OpenVMS  > with some decent applications.  D Perhaps we should be grateful that VMS hasn't officially been killedB yet. Since the murder of Alpha, VMS has gotten a free ride with PR$ dictating that HP couldn't kill it.   H The irony is that one person who did save VMS from premature euthansia ,E Marcello, is the one who bragged about being the one who decided that D IA64 should be restricted to high end only, sealing VMS's fate to an0 ever dwindling smaller and smaller market niche.    D I think that those who from HP who participate here have sent a very@ clear message. The policy is: unless you can show hard cash, VMSF management won't lift a finger to change the current situation.  There< is no room for vision, no room for growth, no room for risk.  F Whether this is HP corporate or VMS management's fault, I do not know.A But whenever someone at the VMS level comes out and says that the C current situation is fine and that current customers are happy with H where VMS is going, it completely deflates any balloon those who wish to+ see VMS expand had been trying to inflate.    A Until VMS level employees start to agree that VMS should again be B scalable from workstation to datacentre, until they agree that theF highest growth segemnt is small/medium business, then there isn't muchF that we can do from out end to convince the powers that be of the needB to fully leverage VMS' potential and re-enter marketplaces left on purpose by previous management.   F And yes, doing so takes leadership, vision and ability to take a risk.C VMS management seems to have the attitude of: if they come, we will ? build it. What is needed is "if you build it , they will come".    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:19:33 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) 9 Subject: Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down? [ Message-ID: <rdeininger-1606060719320001@dialup-4.233.173.202.dial1.manchester1.level3.net>   8 In article <dt339292hsnp1dvvfhod68mkq9cfkt5jue@4ax.com>, support@mandala.ca wrote:   - >On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:24:59 GMT, you wrote:  >  >>Mandala support wrote:0 >>> Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down? >> >>J >>   I might well reverse the question/request, and ask for what specific H >>feature(s) you need to sell products into your target market(s).  And G >>yes, you obviously need to make a profit selling the boxes into your  H >>customers (as does HP), and you need to have a value-add of some sort. >  >Thanks Hoff for reading.   7 Feel free to post here, particularly to blow off steam.   J But realize that comp.os.vms is NOT a reliable way to communicate your VMSG needs to VMS product management.  None of them read this newsgroup, and J none are likely to return here in the current environment.  (The number ofF abusive kooks is high enough to push the newsgroup well into "waste ofG time" territory.)  Well-intended nonsense and/or outright lies will not 0 draw an official response from any VMS managers.  H The VMS product managers are always interested in hearing from customersI and potential customers about VMS business opportunities.  Priorities are G based on demand, and if they don't hear about your needs, your favorite 2 project is unlikely to get any engineering effort.  C If there's a hole in the VMS product offerings, and you think it is J excluding you from a market, contact VMS product management directly.  TryJ to explain your problem in a straightforward way.  (Your sarcastic opening, to this thread is the wrong approach, IMHO.)  D >I have no influence in selling or choosing a directon for OpenVMS.   E Nothing posted here has any influence, except for rare accidents when G someone notices a legitimate problem and passes it to the right person.   J I won't bother to name the dozen or so posters who have earned comp.os.vmsH its reputation as a nuthouse.  They know who they are, and I assume they7 do it intentionally in an attempt to destroy the forum.     H On the other hand, the technical information exchanged here (if you have/ the patience to find it) it usually quite good.    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:47:39 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk9 Subject: Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down? ) Message-ID: <e6u5or$j9f$1@news.mdx.ac.uk>    In article <rdeininger-1606060719320001@dialup-4.233.173.202.dial1.manchester1.level3.net>, rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) writes: 9 >In article <dt339292hsnp1dvvfhod68mkq9cfkt5jue@4ax.com>,  >support@mandala.ca wrote: > . >>On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:24:59 GMT, you wrote: >> >>>Mandala support wrote: 1 >>>> Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down?  > F >Nothing posted here has any influence, except for rare accidents whenH >someone notices a legitimate problem and passes it to the right person. > K >I won't bother to name the dozen or so posters who have earned comp.os.vms I >its reputation as a nuthouse.  They know who they are, and I assume they 8 >do it intentionally in an attempt to destroy the forum. > L Please do name them. I for one am fed up of hearing such disparaging remarksK about comp.os.vms posters which cannot be verified or gainsayed because the 1 poster won't identify who they are talking about.   K I for one don't equate disagreeing with where Compaq and HP have taken VMS  $ with wanting to destroy this forum.     
 David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University       > I >On the other hand, the technical information exchanged here (if you have 0 >the patience to find it) it usually quite good.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jun 2006 05:10:54 -0700 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk9 Subject: Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down? B Message-ID: <1150459854.557284.31820@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  B The thing that people forget is that customers, now, buy solutionsA first, applications second and operating systems last.  If I want F email, I buy an email solution.  Most vendors that sell them will sell- me an Exchange solution and Outhouse clients.   D My employers are in the position of offering a solution that, at the- moment, runs on VMS so we have VMS customers.    Steve    Robert Deininger wrote: : > In article <dt339292hsnp1dvvfhod68mkq9cfkt5jue@4ax.com>, > support@mandala.ca wrote:  > / > >On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:24:59 GMT, you wrote:  > >  > >>Mandala support wrote:2 > >>> Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down? > >> > >>K > >>   I might well reverse the question/request, and ask for what specific I > >>feature(s) you need to sell products into your target market(s).  And H > >>yes, you obviously need to make a profit selling the boxes into yourJ > >>customers (as does HP), and you need to have a value-add of some sort. > >  > >Thanks Hoff for reading.  > 9 > Feel free to post here, particularly to blow off steam.  > L > But realize that comp.os.vms is NOT a reliable way to communicate your VMSI > needs to VMS product management.  None of them read this newsgroup, and L > none are likely to return here in the current environment.  (The number ofH > abusive kooks is high enough to push the newsgroup well into "waste ofI > time" territory.)  Well-intended nonsense and/or outright lies will not 2 > draw an official response from any VMS managers. > J > The VMS product managers are always interested in hearing from customersK > and potential customers about VMS business opportunities.  Priorities are I > based on demand, and if they don't hear about your needs, your favorite 4 > project is unlikely to get any engineering effort. > E > If there's a hole in the VMS product offerings, and you think it is L > excluding you from a market, contact VMS product management directly.  TryL > to explain your problem in a straightforward way.  (Your sarcastic opening. > to this thread is the wrong approach, IMHO.) > E > >I have no influence in selling or choosing a directon for OpenVMS.  > G > Nothing posted here has any influence, except for rare accidents when I > someone notices a legitimate problem and passes it to the right person.  > L > I won't bother to name the dozen or so posters who have earned comp.os.vmsJ > its reputation as a nuthouse.  They know who they are, and I assume they9 > do it intentionally in an attempt to destroy the forum.  >  > J > On the other hand, the technical information exchanged here (if you have1 > the patience to find it) it usually quite good.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:01:18 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 9 Subject: Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down? 9 Message-ID: <NvadnWyYt-5Wfw_ZnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@libcom.com>    david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote:  > In article <rdeininger-1606060719320001@dialup-4.233.173.202.dial1.manchester1.level3.net>, rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) writes: ; >> In article <dt339292hsnp1dvvfhod68mkq9cfkt5jue@4ax.com>,  >> support@mandala.ca wrote: >>0 >>> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:24:59 GMT, you wrote: >>>  >>>> Mandala support wrote: 2 >>>>> Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down?H >> Nothing posted here has any influence, except for rare accidents whenJ >> someone notices a legitimate problem and passes it to the right person. >>M >> I won't bother to name the dozen or so posters who have earned comp.os.vms K >> its reputation as a nuthouse.  They know who they are, and I assume they : >> do it intentionally in an attempt to destroy the forum. >>N > Please do name them. I for one am fed up of hearing such disparaging remarksM > about comp.os.vms posters which cannot be verified or gainsayed because the 3 > poster won't identify who they are talking about.  > M > I for one don't equate disagreeing with where Compaq and HP have taken VMS  & > with wanting to destroy this forum.   2 Well, that probably just put you on the list.  :-)  I I assume I'm one of the 'kooks' since I no longer have anything to offer  F what the VMS management seems to desire, sales.  I'm in that position F due to (in part) the (in my judgement) bad decisions by the owners of D VMS.  I have only one VMS customer left, an ISV who keeps asking me ) silly questions such as "how about java?"   H All I can tell this last customer is that he'd spend much money on what F would at best be a lateral move, and most likely a downward move.  As ? long as VMS is available, use it.  Anything else is just 'self   fulfilling prophacy'.    > David Webb > Security team leader > CCSS > Middlesex University >  >  > K >> On the other hand, the technical information exchanged here (if you have 2 >> the patience to find it) it usually quite good.     --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:10:13 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 9 Subject: Re: Just Ask The Vendor: Can OpenVMS Scale Down? 9 Message-ID: <ld6dnX2FnP9_eQ_ZnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@libcom.com>    Bob Koehler wrote:a > In article <1150459854.557284.31820@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk writes: E >> The thing that people forget is that customers, now, buy solutions D >> first, applications second and operating systems last.  If I wantI >> email, I buy an email solution.  Most vendors that sell them will sell 0 >> me an Exchange solution and Outhouse clients. > I >   That depends on the customer.  In my business customers sometimes buy # >   solutions, sometimes platforms.  >   + The world has changed in the last 35 years.   H At one time the majority of customers purchased platforms and developed  their applications.   H I don't know the numbers, but I'd be real interested in what percentage E of customers still have anything to do with the development of their  
 solutions.  I I think that some of the packaged solutions available do not provide the  H same service to the users as a custom solution would.  Some do.  Office * automation fits into this second category.  I I'm pretty sure that the popularity of packaged solutions is in part due  G to the beancounters in charge of companies not understanding that many  > times their company knows it's business better than a generic H application vendor, and therefore force such generic solutions onto the > company.  There are also plenty of arguments against in-house & development, some of which have merit.  I If the decision is to do custom development, VMS used to be far ahead of  F any other platform in terms of a robust development environment.  The  gap has narrowed some.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jun 2006 07:40:33 -07000 From: "Pfleging, Michael" <pfleging.lka@ekkw.de>- Subject: Re: Pathworks authentication problem C Message-ID: <1150468833.666440.218890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   D Pathworks 7.4 (Client Software) is running on Windows XP and WindowsE Server 2000, but definitly not on Windows Server 2003 (see also SPD). G Until there is no new version of Pathworks you can only replace your NT : 4 with Windows Server 2000 (DECnet and LAT is functioning)  $ Nice feature on Windows Server 2000:C If you have a 2000 Terminal Server and/or Citrix you can connect to C VT320.EXE (in unsupported/i386 on Pathworks CD) from everywhere (if  allowed) with RDP and/or ICA. E Just copy the content of directory VT320 on Patworks CD to C:\PW32 on F Windows 2000 Server before you install Pathworks network connectivity.A Then you have a secure gateway from RDP or ICA to DECNET and LAT. $ (Powerterm is working also with LAT)G I have not yet tested if NFTW32.EXE (Decnet file transfer) also accepts B mapped (from Citrix or Terminal Server) drives from the RDP or ICA client.    Michael    mcbill20@yahoo.com schrieb:   I > Anyone out there using Pathworks DECnet client on Win 2003? I am having  > an authentication problem. >  > Here's the layout: > G > We have an NT 4.0 domain that unfortunately has to stay NT 4 forever. H > We had one fileserver that was also NT 4 but I just replaced it with aH > new one with Win 2003 Server. We have a building full of VAXen that doG > automatic DECnet file copies to the windows file server, which is the H > reason for the Pathworks client. Since it's not working yet on the newI > server, I still have the DECnet node name and address on the old server 6 > and the new server has a temporary name and address. > @ > Everything works fine in talking to the old server. I can do aI > directory from the VAXen to the NT 4 machine (1.1004) and it works fine C > but I get an authentication error when I try it to the new server  > (1.1011).  >  > Here's the output: >  > $ d 1011"user password":: E > %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening 1011"user password"::*.*;* as input 1 > -RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed > > -SYSTEM-F-INVLOGIN, login information invalid at remote node > F > The username I am using is a domain user, which is supposed to work.C > I've tried logging in to the server (windows login) with the same H > username and it works fine.  I don't see anything in the windows event% > viewer or the Pathworks log viewer.  > F > The VMS machines are running 5.5-2 and 7.2. The Pathworks version on8 > the NT machine is 7.2 and 7.4 on the Windows 2003 box. >  > Any ideas? > 	 > Thanks.  > Bill   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:02:04 GMT & From: "PEN" <paul.nunez.nosp@m.hp.com>- Subject: Re: Pathworks authentication problem 2 Message-ID: <MJzkg.1980$Gt1.1842@news.cpqcorp.net>   Hi Michael,   < "Pfleging, Michael" <pfleging.lka@ekkw.de> wrote in message = news:1150468833.666440.218890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... F > Pathworks 7.4 (Client Software) is running on Windows XP and WindowsG > Server 2000, but definitly not on Windows Server 2003 (see also SPD).  >  [snip]  K That's incorrect; the SPD clearly states Windows 2003 is supported by v7.4  & (perhaps you were thinking of v7.3)...  J I believe Bill's issue has been resolved (by granting the Windows account ' the user right "Logon as a batch job").    Paul     ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:51:37 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)7 Subject: Re: Question about number of Vax System owners $ Message-ID: <e6u2fp$hi4$3@online.de>  H In article <e6su2h03oe@enews4.newsguy.com>, healyzh@aracnet.com writes:   + > Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer@gsi.de> wrote:  > > DBT schrieb:@ > > > I am curious how many Vax users there are still out there.M > > > We are looking at offering Vax systems and Vax based hardware solutions  > 6 > > well, prepare to support a future hobbyist market. > J > How much of a VAX Hobbyist market is there?  Of that what percentage areL > Unix users with some strange fixation on VAX hardware and how many are VMS > users?  Just curious.   L > I get the impression that the Hobbyists running VAXen are looking to spendH > far less money on it than I am (and definitely less than I have in theM > past).  While David does support the Hobbyist market (I purchased parts for K > my current system from him years ago), I can't see VAXen being an area he , > can afford to support the normal hobbyist.  D I don't know, but my guess is that most hobbyist systems are VAXen, G simply because they have been available for free for a longer time.  A  F reasonably fast VAX, such as a VAXstation 4000/90, a VAX 4000/105A, a F VAX 4000/100A or even a VAXstation 4000/60 has more than enough power C for most things except serious number crunching or running a super  E modern web browser, and also does so with very little consumption of  C power or space.  My own experience is that the old VAX hardware is  + somewhat more reliable than ALPHA hardware.    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Jun 2006 07:21:49 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 7 Subject: Re: Question about number of Vax System owners 3 Message-ID: <f8cbqdXHq8z3@eisner.encompasserve.org>   G In article <e6su2h03oe@enews4.newsguy.com>, healyzh@aracnet.com writes: + > Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer@gsi.de> wrote:  >> DBT schrieb: ? >> > I am curious how many Vax users there are still out there. L >> > We are looking at offering Vax systems and Vax based hardware solutions > 5 >> well, prepare to support a future hobbyist market.  > J > How much of a VAX Hobbyist market is there?  Of that what percentage areL > Unix users with some strange fixation on VAX hardware and how many are VMS > users?  Just curious.  >   D    I don't think there's a lot of attraction to running UNIX on slowE    hardware.  I know of exactly one fellow who might be interested in B    having a VAX running Ultirx just so he can say he does.  In theD    home/hobbyist market most folks are much more likely to pick up aH    cheap PC and load Linux if they're looking for a UNIX-ish experience.  G    People looking for a "real" UNIX home system are much more likely to F    pick up a cheap used SPARC than a similarly priced VAX.  No need to    be patient.   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:47:02 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)- Subject: Re: Sending HTML mail from VMS MAIL? $ Message-ID: <e6u276$hi4$2@online.de>  : In article <1293fe9ocrkohe7@corp.supernews.com>, "Syltrem"# <syltremzulu@videotron.ca> writes:    O > I think it's doable, if the message if formatted appropriately (I dunno much  9 > about mime or html) and possibly sent with MAIL/FOREIGN  >  > Can someone give me hints? > K > I'd like to send a mail in HTML so if someone could give an example of a   > minimal email message. > O > I can send attachments with mime-encoded messages, but I just don't know how  
 > to do html.   A SFF.  You can (however you choose) create a file with the proper  1 contents (HTML) and proper headers, then send it.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:02:55 -0400 * From: "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca>- Subject: Re: Sending HTML mail from VMS MAIL? 0 Message-ID: <1295htpth61sf18@corp.supernews.com>  ? "Peter Weaver" <newsonly@weaverconsulting.ca> wrote in message  " news:e6ucpj$7ll$1@nntp.aioe.org...8 > "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca> wrote in message , > news:1293fe9ocrkohe7@corp.supernews.com... >>... L >> I'd like to send a mail in HTML so if someone could give an example of a  >> minimal email message.  >>...  > L > Just a few days ago I had the same question and a google search turned up * > some code that went something like this; >  > $!F > $!      Neat little trick to send HTML mail from VMS, hope this does+ > $!      not break in some future upgrade.  > $! > $ cr[0,8]=13 > $ lf[0,8]=107 > $ subject="[BACKUP] VMS Backup Summary" + cr + lf + - 2 >                "Mime-Version: 1.0" + cr + lf + -* >                "Content-Type: text/HTML"4 > $ mail/sub="''subject'" 'summary_file support_dist > $! > L > I don't know who wrote it originally but my customer is now using this to H > read in the logs from 19 different VMS systems and send out a summary. > / > The file that is mailed is created like this;  > 3 > $ summary_file = "sys$scratch:backup_summary.txt"  > $!C > $ open/write outfile 'summary_file /error=error_open_summary_file  > $! > $ write outfile "<html>" > $ write outfile "<head>" > $ write outfile "<h1>" > $ write outfile "<center>"J > $ write outfile "VMS Backup Summary for ''F$CVTIME(,"ABSOLUTE","DATE")'" > $ write outfile "</center>"  > $ write outfile "</h1>"  > $ write outfile "<br>" > $ write outfile "</head>" $ > $ write outfile "<table border=1>" > $ write outfile "<tr>  >    That works great !   Thanks Peter   Styltrem   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:30:52 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: VMS at ebay ?+ Message-ID: <44924FF3.D91544A@teksavvy.com>   A Got a legitimate email from ebay and two words flashed out of the  headers: Communigate Pro  F one node on *.corp.ebay.com is running Communigate Pro.  It is howeverG on an intranet with unroutable addresses so it is unreacheable from the 	 outside.    G Does anyone know if this is a VMS based ?  This would be an interesting > win from a customer that was so visibly all "Sun" in the past.  G And BTW, someone at ebay is a Star Trek fan. The two machines currently # accepting inbound emails are named   		data and lore  (.ebay.com)   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:24:47 +0800 ) From: Tim Sneddon <tesneddon@bigpond.com>  Subject: Re: VMS at ebay ?8 Message-ID: <44924f31$0$3584$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>   JF Mezei wrote: C > Got a legitimate email from ebay and two words flashed out of the  > headers: Communigate Pro > H > one node on *.corp.ebay.com is running Communigate Pro.  It is howeverI > on an intranet with unroutable addresses so it is unreacheable from the  > outside.   > I > Does anyone know if this is a VMS based ?  This would be an interesting @ > win from a customer that was so visibly all "Sun" in the past. >   D I doubt it very much. Communigate Pro is supported on a rather large@ number of platforms. OpenVMS is in that list, and so is Solaris.   Regards, Tim   --  = Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.333 ************************