1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 24 Jun 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 348       Contents: Re: charon-vax on linux - Re: console message involving RUN/STOP switch  Re: InfoServer 100 trouble Re: Intel selling Itanium?3 Re: multiplatform (Alpha/Itanium) SWS configuration 3 Re: multiplatform (Alpha/Itanium) SWS configuration  Re: Results of my straw poll.  Re: TELNET PERFORMANCE OVER WAN  Re: TELNET PERFORMANCE OVER WAN   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:09:26 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>  Subject: Re: charon-vax on linux< Message-ID: <449BF616.10487.1E6934CB@squayle.insight.rr.com>  8 On 23 Jun 2006 at 9:48, michael.belyaev@gmail.com wrote:E > if any you use(d) charon-vax on linux in production or in the know, G > can you tell me if: in the Linux commercial version (if there's any),  > can you create disks > 2Gb?   > The freeware version is not for commercial use.  Since it has C extremely limited performance, I hope no one's using in production.   A > - the freebie version (dated sometime last year) only allows to  > create 2 Gb disks;  A The full CHARON-VAX product supports disks much larger than 2 GB.   I > can you create/add/change disks on the fly (like via charons.ini file)?   D The full version supports adding USB or similar disks on the fly as  removable disk packs.   @ > what is the top for RAM for Linux version (or top VAX series)?  F The full version in the 66x0 series currently emulates a maximum of 2 
 GB of RAM.  6 For more details on the real product, please refer to:  &   http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html  
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------8 Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA < stan-at-stanq-dot-com   http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html) "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option"    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:03:48 +0200 , From: "Reinhard Eigner" <antispam@garnix.de>6 Subject: Re: console message involving RUN/STOP switch/ Message-ID: <e7hkvg$jtq$02$1@news.t-online.com>   M "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>  5 schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:e79j1v$tqe$1@online.de... G > I'm testing out some old hardware, an ALPHAserver 2100.  It powers up - > fine, the console sees all the devices etc.  > 8 > I wanted to boot it off of a CD, but I get the message > L >   dka600.6.0.1 has no media present or is disabled via the RUN/STOP switch >   failed to open dka600.6.0.1  >   	 Hi there,   J I get the same error message on my DS10, when there's *NO* CD in the driveF during the init phase of the system (power on). The drive works normal+ but I don't know why this message comes up. F When I leave a CD in the drive, no error message is on the SRM screen.7 The drive is the standard IDE CD-ROM drive from Compaq.      cheers	 Reinhard     ------------------------------    Date: 23 Jun 2006 12:48:37 -0700 From: "Verne" <verne@wvnet.edu> # Subject: Re: InfoServer 100 trouble C Message-ID: <1151092117.917440.304300@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    phil@rephil.org wrote: > gl@decadence.it wrote: > 0 > > unfortunately, I don't have the VAX CONDIST.0 > > I'm looking for the software on bootable CD.+ > > I'm sure I'll find in a way or another.  > H > If memory serves, it's on VMS Freeware, either v3, 4, or 5.  If not, I > might be able to dig it up.  > 	 > Cheers,  > Phil M    @ Once I heard a rumor that with a secret incantation  :-)  at theC console, any MicroVAX 3100 could successfully boot InfoServer code.   E That is, no you cannot turn a real InfoServer into a fully functional E 3100, but yes you can turn a fully functional 3100 into an InfoServer E (of course you still must have the proper distribution and install it  onto a hard drive).   F With both the InfoServer and the whole 3100 line long out of the sales@ channels, does anyone know the >>> commands to make this happen?   Verne    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:38:51 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: Intel selling Itanium? , Message-ID: <449C3539.C15D51DF@teksavvy.com>   Keith Parris wrote:  > G > The Inquirer is (reluctantly) reporting that Itanium is safe from the M > knife as Intel makes cost reductions: http://theinquirer.net/?article=32416   F That is unfortunate but understandable. Intel and HP have altready setH out their IA64 retirement roadmap and they areen't ready yet to announceD it. And Intel can probably justify the waste of money because HP has8 sent wads of cash over to Intel to subsidize this loser.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:16:17 -0500 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>< Subject: Re: multiplatform (Alpha/Itanium) SWS configuration@ Message-ID: <craigberry-E48FAE.14161623062006@free.teranews.com>  6 In article <00A579DA.63CB0BE2@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>,H  winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)   wrote:    > VMSers --  > K > So I'd like to run as identical an Apache configuration as possible on my G > Alpha and Itanium cluster members, which would ideally let me use the   > apache$common:[conf]httpd.conf > @ > The problem I have is that modules are included explicitly, egB > mod_auth_openvms.exe_alpha   - while the I64 version of that is  > mod_auth_openvms.exe > 9 > I know how to get around this, but it's a little yucky:  > 2 > include /apache$specific:[conf]auth_openvms.conf > D > and then call out the architecture specific version of the module. > @ > I don't like this because the apache$specific is per-node, notL > per-architecture, which means I'd have to replicate all my clever includesN > for every node.  (Not a big problem right now with three nodes, but it still2 > seems like there ought to be a way around this.) > + > What's recommended for dealing with this?   < Do logical names work?  Can you define MOD_AUTH_OPENVMS_EXE E appropriately for each system and then reference the logical name in   the configuration file?    --  = Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:28:23 -0700 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com>< Subject: Re: multiplatform (Alpha/Itanium) SWS configuration+ Message-ID: <e7hit7$nqt$1@news01.intel.com>   C On 6/22/2006 11:16 PM, Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote:  > VMSers --  > K > So I'd like to run as identical an Apache configuration as possible on my G > Alpha and Itanium cluster members, which would ideally let me use the   > apache$common:[conf]httpd.conf > @ > The problem I have is that modules are included explicitly, egB > mod_auth_openvms.exe_alpha   - while the I64 version of that is  > mod_auth_openvms.exe  I     Alan, can apache$common be a search-list?  If so, I'd use a variation C of a technique I used at SLAC in our mixed-architecture VAX & Alpha  cluster.  I     However apache$common is defined, create another pair of directories, B e.g., apache$alpha and apache$i64.  Place the executables in theirF respective architecture-specific directories, e.g., apache$alpha:[bin]C (or [conf], or wherever they live a the moment), but name them both  ".exe", not ".exe_<arch>".  G     In the Apache startup files, define apache$common as a search list, E similar to the way SYS$SYSROOT is defined, but with the architecture- * specific directory first.  Something like:  D   $ Define/System/Exec apache$alpha dev:[alp-dir.]/Trans=(conc,term)D   $ Define/System/Exec apache$i64   dev:[i64-dir.]/Trans=(conc,term)D   $ Define/System/Exec apache$cmn   dev:[cmn-dir.]/Trans=(conc,term)   $ If arch.Eqs."Alpha"    $ ThenI   $   Define/System/Exec apache$common dev:[alp-dir.]/trans=(cons,term),- 2                                        apache$cmn:   $ ElseI   $   Define/System/Exec apache$common dev:[i64-dir.]/trans=(cons,term),- 2                                        apache$cmn:	   $ Endif   I      The two gotcha's I can see with this are that any _new_ file created C in apache$common (1) will be written to the 1st member in the list, E e.g., alpha$i64, which is probably not where you want it, and (2) the H whole directory structure under apache$cmn must be present on apache$alp. and apache$i64 or you get a file create error.  G      OTOH, if you reverse the order in the search list, with apache$cmn F first, doing, e.g., a directory on a file that doesn't exist will give? a FNF (or directory not found) error indicating _apache$i64_ or G _apache$alp_, not apache$cmn nor apache$common, which can all be rather ? confusing...  [Note that with a modified SYS$SYSROOT, where the = cluster-common directory/locical name is "sandwiched" between ; SYS$SPECIFIC and SYS$COMMON, none of these problems occur.]        Anyway, just an idea...    	-Ken  --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------   Date: 23 Jun 2006 22:36:44 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)& Subject: Re: Results of my straw poll., Message-ID: <4g38nrF1kv0ovU1@individual.net>  / In article <e6cuhe$dj2$02$1@news.t-online.com>, + 	Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer@gsi.de> writes:  > Bill Gunshannon schrieb: >>  C >> Looking at the next two, choice of Unix appears to be based on a C >> lack of knowledge or a misconception.  And 4th had little to say D >> except that they would prefer VMS (Note the constant reference toD >> "VAX" which shows how long since he actually used it on a regular	 >> basis.  >>  D >> Looks to me like if HP actually wanted it they could have the EDU >> market again. >>   >> Comments? > , > well, you could do an experiment, sort of.1 > Let the former VMS enthusiasts know, that their . > favorite OS still is available at your site.* > If they are serious about their opinion,$ > and if VMS really still is viable,4 > they should flock back in droves, shouldn't they ? >   3 I'm not sure three people would constitute a drove.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:03:41 +0000 (UTC) . From: klewis@LUMINA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis)( Subject: Re: TELNET PERFORMANCE OVER WAN. Message-ID: <e7hkvd$t3g$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes in article <449AF8A5.9697D9F4@teksavvy.com> dated Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:08:15 -0400: E >If you are on a PC or worstation, try to reduce the key repeat rate. C >Perhaps below a certain threshold, the telnet client won't see any ; >opportunities to optimiza many bytes into a single packet.   I Reduce the repeat rate, making the editing even slower -- his users would 
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