1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 02 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 121       Contents:0 Re: Blog Marketing - Affordable OpenVMS exposure0 Re: Blog Marketing - Affordable OpenVMS exposure; Re: ds10l typical power consumption, and any other opinions # Re: Home > Browse Topics > Software , HP embarrases self, should have had EV8 out! Re: OpenVMS screenshots?* OT: Where Information integration is going1 Re: Plain truth is that unix/linux is NOT secure! " Re: Python for Fortran programmers# Re: question about VMS732_LMF-V0200  Re: READ /SYMBOL ???? . Re: Regarding finding memory address using SDA. Re: Regarding finding memory address using SDA. Re: Regarding finding memory address using SDA2 Re: Rocky Mountain Local Users Group March Meeting2 Re: Rocky Mountain Local Users Group March Meeting+ Should Supervisor mode require privileges ? % Student doing paper on VMS needs help ) Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help ) Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help ) Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help ) Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help ) Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help ) Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help ) Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help B Sun says linux can't scale past 8 way, HP putting lipstick on pig!F Re: Sun says linux can't scale past 8 way, HP putting lipstick on pig!, Re: Version 8.2 and CREATE/MAILBOX/TEMPORARY, Re: Version 8.2 and CREATE/MAILBOX/TEMPORARY  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:50:46 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>9 Subject: Re: Blog Marketing - Affordable OpenVMS exposure + Message-ID: <44065D85.B4BB0515@comcast.net>    Ian Miller wrote:  >  > like" > http://www.hp.com/blogs/marcello! > http://www.hp.com/blogs/hoffman  >  > but different?  C Quite. The HP Corporate line isn't cutting it, and more of the same  isn't likely to, either.  D We need folks - lots o'folks - to talk up VMS in searched/searchableH blogs that rank high with the web crawlers. Then, when someone "Googles"D for VMS or OpenVMS they get pages of links to lots of VMS stuff from users, entrepreneurs, etc.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 00:25:46 -0500) From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn@gmail.com> 9 Subject: Re: Blog Marketing - Affordable OpenVMS exposure H Message-ID: <7dd80f60603012125q382a7d51uaf83bd5dbe429355@mail.gmail.com>  > On 3/1/06, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote: > Ian Miller wrote:  > >  > > like$ > > http://www.hp.com/blogs/marcello# > > http://www.hp.com/blogs/hoffman  > >  > > but different? > E > Quite. The HP Corporate line isn't cutting it, and more of the same  > isn't likely to, either. > F > We need folks - lots o'folks - to talk up VMS in searched/searchableJ > blogs that rank high with the web crawlers. Then, when someone "Googles"F > for VMS or OpenVMS they get pages of links to lots of VMS stuff from > users, entrepreneurs, etc.  4 Take a look at http://www.eight-cubed.com/index.html  C It was the 5th result when I did a google search for "openvms blog"    Ken    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Mar 2006 20:35:35 GMT  From: healyzh@aracnet.com D Subject: Re: ds10l typical power consumption, and any other opinions, Message-ID: <du50in016nn@enews4.newsguy.com>  4 Tom Garcia <tgarcia-REMOVE-THIS@hivemind.org> wrote:K > Thinking about using one for a home vms server, so was wondering what the I > typical power draw was on one of these things... please mention whether 5 > bare or with a number of drives or other expansion.   J > Any subjective comments on use of these boxes -- noise, reliability, etcH > -- would be welcome :-). As far as I'm aware, the two main gotchas areJ > broken USB (disabled for some reason in later firmware builds ?) and use > of nonstandard RAM.   H I'm told that a stock DS10L is quite noisy, but that you can replace theH fans and slow them down to make it quieter.  I believe the person that I> know that has done this, also cut a hole in top above the CPU.  H I've been quite tempted to pick one up to play with.  It would be fasterL than my PWS 433au, and really all I need is an external SCSI Array.  Plus ifK I got one, then I could turn my PWS 433au back into a nice VMS Workstation.   I My chief concerns are noise and heat, as it would be sitting in my Dining - room, and it can get quite hot in the summer.    		Zane   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 21:05:33 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>, Subject: Re: Home > Browse Topics > Software+ Message-ID: <440660FD.E5EA08D1@comcast.net>    Bob Koehler wrote: > R > http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/story/0,10801,97032,00.html  - Kind of old news, but thanx for the reminder.   G Folks, we need to write letters / e-mails and get the trade rag writers G on board with us re: VMS. Gotta get the word out by hook or by crook or $ ... whatever it takes: VMS lives on.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Mar 2006 15:54:10 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com 5 Subject: HP embarrases self, should have had EV8 out! C Message-ID: <1141257250.462460.165710@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   F till itanium catches up which looks like maybe 5-10 more years at this rate ...  ) http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29972    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Mar 2006 06:25:04 GMT 2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>! Subject: Re: OpenVMS screenshots? ? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-2jMku5iX58KG@dave2_os2.home.ours>   2 On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 02:08:33 UTC, David J Dachtera " <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote:   > Michael Kraemer wrote: > > 
 ...Snip... > > ? > > You have asked a similar question on c.s.h.hpux and I think # > > there was also an answer to it. > > > VMS/alpha looks pretty much the same as any UNIX with CDE, > J > The caveat there is that on Alpha, at install time, you will be asked toH > install support for the traditional DECwindows desktop as well as CDE.  E Thank heavens, I prefer Motif as I don't need/like the eye-candy and  C clickable stuff. Workspaces are useful though. CDE needs plenty of  D memory tho'. Our AS200's came with 32MB :-) -  later doubled by DEC;   --   Cheers - Dave W.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:06:11 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 3 Subject: OT: Where Information integration is going , Message-ID: <440628DC.88A92EF8@teksavvy.com>  ? This is a flash animation. But a definite warning of where some F countries are heading with their goal to integrate all information and cross link databases.   + http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf    (Requires sound support).   E Those who think that the ACLU is an evil organisation need not bother  with this page.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:10:05 -0500 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> : Subject: Re: Plain truth is that unix/linux is NOT secure!0 Message-ID: <_JadnRsp5-oTbJjZRVn-gQ@comcast.com>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:  5 > In article <000201c63d0a$cecf7eb0$994614ac@wat153>, - > 	"Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> writes:  >  >>Hello, >>E >>the buffer overflow problem does still exists within all the TCP/IP H >>waste (also in OpenVMS). But other then in any *X and WindowsX flavor,G >>you would not get any additional rights under OpenVMS. Also remember, / >>the first virus was on BSD!! an UNIX flavor.   >  > B > I suggest you visit: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872842.htmlA > in order to get the facts straight.  The first virus it appears G > was on the Apple.  Followed very shortly my attacks on 360K floppies, E > command.com and then .exe files.  Doesn't look much like BSD to me. G > This is confirmed by wikipaedia.  Perhaps refering to the Morris Worm F > which didn't attack BSD, per se,  at all but was strictly a sendmail	 > attack.  >  > bill >   H The Robert Morris worm was more than a "sendmail" attack.  It exploited E the common use of about 500 English words as passwords, and a buffer  C overflow in the finger daemon as well.  I believe that the "Robert  @ Morris Password List" has been incorporated in the VMS password @ dictionary for many years now; ordinary users can't use them as D passwords though I believe SYSTEM can if the System Manager is both  stubborn and stupid enough.   F And almost twenty years later, viruses and worms are still exploiting H buffer overflows in Windows!!!!!  Some people are slow learners!!!!!!!!!   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:08:02 GMT & From: claird@lairds.us (Cameron Laird)+ Subject: Re: Python for Fortran programmers & Message-ID: <amuhd3-3ek.ln1@lairds.us>  B In article <1141256768.887882.69200@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,  <mtobis@gmail.com> wrote: 			. 			. 			.E >That said, I eagerly await a Fortran with a C interoperability mode, F >because Python is implemented (usually) as a perfectly ordinary pieceG >of C code, so with F03, Python/Fortran interoperability will return to ! >the level it has with F77 codes.  >  >mt  >   > ... or, the VMS troglodytes remember, what was common in 1985.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:38:19 -0700 # From: Jim Mehlhop <jim@mehlhop.org> , Subject: Re: question about VMS732_LMF-V0200/ Message-ID: <MKmNf.24$KI6.6322@news.uswest.net>    Stanley F. Quayle wrote:  ? > On 24 Feb 2006 at 18:22, Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTH wrote:  > F >>By the way, has it been decided yet whether 7.3 will remain the last >>version of VMS for VAX?  >  > D > It was decided some time ago that 7.3 is the last VAX version.  I ! > suspect that decision is final.  >  > --Stan Quayle  > Quayle Consulting Inc. >  > ----------: > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX5 > 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 2 > stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com+ > "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option"  > G I have heard un-officially that they expect at some time to have a VAX   VMS 8.x    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:45:51 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: READ /SYMBOL ????, Message-ID: <44066A57.FCE2B656@teksavvy.com>   David J Dachtera wrote: . > Hate to do this, but what's the VMS version?   7.2     = > See also: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/4038/sld025.htm   2 OK seems the lengths have been increased on alpha.  A However, for the OSU server, the documentation states that with a G <DNETARG> you get the full arguments line but that DCL can only get the G first 256 bytes. With <DNETARG2> the web server automatically truncates  it to 256 to fit DCL records.   B I used <DNETARG> but it only gave one record of about 256. So I amE puzzled as to why there would be such a limit. It is a DCL limitation ! when reading from a decnet link ?    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Mar 2006 14:16:03 -0500 . From: brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks)7 Subject: Re: Regarding finding memory address using SDA , Message-ID: <8jrB6BaV$L4l@cuebid.zko.hp.com>  " VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:2 > brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes: >>N >>As has been mentioned before, please use all internal HP resources availableN >>to you before posting in a public forum.  If you aren't aware of the various: >>resources, please contact me at the below email address. >  > Translation: > L > Use the web based, user hostile, non-VMS-system accessible ITRC instead ofL > comp.os.vms.  You'll help to bolster the coffers of the starving Billzebub% > & Co. and insure the demise of VMS. C 	Quite wrong -- VMS Engineering relies quite heavily on NOTES-based 0 conferences for internal discussion and support.  L > Sorry Rob but what is wrong with him asking questions of this nature here?K > This has been the forum for VMS questions for a lot longer than that ITRC K > thing and nobody here contracts hogwarts like they would using ITRC.  The L > postings here are archived and searchable with google and other net search
 > engines.  ( I'm no fan of the ITRC forum whatsoever!  C It's highly likely that his questions will be quite specific to our G build environment.  It's also an issue of making sure that the offshore A engineers are better integrated with the rest of VMS engineering.    --    L Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.hp.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:25:39 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG7 Subject: Re: Regarding finding memory address using SDA 0 Message-ID: <00A520C4.7A63CE65@SendSpamHere.ORG>  ] In article <8jrB6BaV$L4l@cuebid.zko.hp.com>, brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:  >  > # >VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: 3 >> brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:  >>> O >>>As has been mentioned before, please use all internal HP resources available O >>>to you before posting in a public forum.  If you aren't aware of the various ; >>>resources, please contact me at the below email address.  >>   >> Translation:  >>  M >> Use the web based, user hostile, non-VMS-system accessible ITRC instead of M >> comp.os.vms.  You'll help to bolster the coffers of the starving Billzebub & >> & Co. and insure the demise of VMS.D >	Quite wrong -- VMS Engineering relies quite heavily on NOTES-based1 >conferences for internal discussion and support.  > M >> Sorry Rob but what is wrong with him asking questions of this nature here? L >> This has been the forum for VMS questions for a lot longer than that ITRCL >> thing and nobody here contracts hogwarts like they would using ITRC.  TheM >> postings here are archived and searchable with google and other net search  >> engines.  > ) >I'm no fan of the ITRC forum whatsoever!  > D >It's highly likely that his questions will be quite specific to ourH >build environment.  It's also an issue of making sure that the offshoreB >engineers are better integrated with the rest of VMS engineering.  2 Ah... VMS engineering was outsourced to India?  :)     --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:52:51 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>7 Subject: Re: Regarding finding memory address using SDA + Message-ID: <44065E03.DB5E081A@comcast.net>   ! VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > _ > In article <8jrB6BaV$L4l@cuebid.zko.hp.com>, brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:  > >  > > % > >VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: 5 > >> brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:  > >>> Q > >>>As has been mentioned before, please use all internal HP resources available Q > >>>to you before posting in a public forum.  If you aren't aware of the various = > >>>resources, please contact me at the below email address.  > >> > >> Translation:  > >>O > >> Use the web based, user hostile, non-VMS-system accessible ITRC instead of O > >> comp.os.vms.  You'll help to bolster the coffers of the starving Billzebub ( > >> & Co. and insure the demise of VMS.L > >       Quite wrong -- VMS Engineering relies quite heavily on NOTES-based3 > >conferences for internal discussion and support.  > > O > >> Sorry Rob but what is wrong with him asking questions of this nature here? N > >> This has been the forum for VMS questions for a lot longer than that ITRCN > >> thing and nobody here contracts hogwarts like they would using ITRC.  TheO > >> postings here are archived and searchable with google and other net search 
 > >> engines.  > > + > >I'm no fan of the ITRC forum whatsoever!  > > F > >It's highly likely that his questions will be quite specific to ourJ > >build environment.  It's also an issue of making sure that the offshoreD > >engineers are better integrated with the rest of VMS engineering. > 4 > Ah... VMS engineering was outsourced to India?  :)  . Have you tried calling for VMS support lately?   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:36:00 -0700 # From: Jim Mehlhop <jim@mehlhop.org> ; Subject: Re: Rocky Mountain Local Users Group March Meeting * Message-ID: <4405F7A0.4040604@mehlhop.org>  - David Turner, Island Computers US Corp wrote: @ > I heard they'll be serving Rocky Montain Oysters at luncheon ! >  > ;0)  > $ If you come eat them I'll make them!   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:38:21 +1100 $ From: Phaeton <phaeton@iinet.net.au>; Subject: Re: Rocky Mountain Local Users Group March Meeting J Message-ID: <44064c89$0$21902$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>   Jim Mehlhop wrote:/ > David Turner, Island Computers US Corp wrote:  > A >> I heard they'll be serving Rocky Montain Oysters at luncheon !  >> >> ;0) >>& > If you come eat them I'll make them!  : 	http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/RockyMtnOyster.htm  + 	:-)  One learns something new every day... B                                                              Csaba  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- F   CSABA I. HARANGOZO  |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|  phaeton at iinet dot net dot auE --------------------------------------------------------------------- <     EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:  =   Rectitude (n.), the formal, dignified demeanor assumed by a 5      proctologist immediately before he examines you.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:23:35 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 4 Subject: Should Supervisor mode require privileges ?, Message-ID: <44068139.7B5AAAEB@teksavvy.com>  H In DCL, an unprivileged user can act in supervisor mode (OPEN and CLOSE,4 defining logicals, and defining global symbols etc).  F Is there a logical/security reason why an application needs to go into< CMEXEC in order to then call something in supervisor mode ?   F What vulnerabilities would appear if unprivileged images could specifyG supervisor mode in system calls without having to call CMEXEC or having  special privileges ?   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:02:52 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com>. Subject: Student doing paper on VMS needs help< Message-ID: <wdmNf.48176$no3.32082@tornado.southeast.rr.com>  M Just got this email.  Normally I would respond to requests like this but I'm  , too busy today and she needs it by tomorrow.  L Anyone want to take a stab?  I'll check in during the course of the day and J send her any responses.  I'll add my response tonight to whatever someone 
 writes today.        Information regarding OpenVMS   -----------------------------  M Hello I am a student doing research on "OpenVMS", please provide me with the  ! following information as follows:    1. History of OpenVMS 8 2. Architecture (what kind of computer it is running on) 3. Price, licensing $ 4. User friendliness, user interface 5. Security issues.   L If possible could you provide me with the requested information by tomorrow  as the paper is due on Friday!!   ) Thanks a million and await your response.    Sincerely yours,
 Amy Vansen Tourism Management Student University of Belize Belize City, BELIZE        Ken   % _____________________________________  Kenneth Farmer <>< 336-736-7376 3 www.OpenVMS.org | dba.OpenVMS.org | dcl.OpenVMS.org  HP OpenVMS News and Info   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Mar 2006 19:19:25 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)2 Subject: Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help+ Message-ID: <46madtFbobfkU1@individual.net>   < In article <wdmNf.48176$no3.32082@tornado.southeast.rr.com>,9 	"Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com> writes: O > Just got this email.  Normally I would respond to requests like this but I'm  . > too busy today and she needs it by tomorrow. > N > Anyone want to take a stab?  I'll check in during the course of the day and L > send her any responses.  I'll add my response tonight to whatever someone  > writes today.  >  >  >  > Information regarding OpenVMS   > ------------------------------ > O > Hello I am a student doing research on "OpenVMS", please provide me with the  # > following information as follows:  >  > 1. History of OpenVMS : > 2. Architecture (what kind of computer it is running on) > 3. Price, licensing & > 4. User friendliness, user interface > 5. Security issues.  > N > If possible could you provide me with the requested information by tomorrow ! > as the paper is due on Friday!!  > + > Thanks a million and await your response.  >  > Sincerely yours, > Amy Vansen > Tourism Management Student > University of Belize > Belize City, BELIZE  >   F Yeah, everybody pitch in and do the kids homework for her.  Of course,F being a typical college student we also waited till the last minute to start.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 1 Mar 2006 15:58:31 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com 2 Subject: Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs helpB Message-ID: <1141257510.992491.72490@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  ( number 5 is easy ... just write NONE! :)   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Mar 2006 16:18:02 -0800   From: "Eddie" <blokey@gmail.com>2 Subject: Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs helpA Message-ID: <1141258682.053684.8340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   3 Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Mar 2006 00:41:25 GMT  From: healyzh@aracnet.com 2 Subject: Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help, Message-ID: <du5evl11s1u@enews2.newsguy.com>  J > Hello I am a student doing research on "OpenVMS", please provide me with' > the following information as follows:    > 1. History of OpenVMS : > 2. Architecture (what kind of computer it is running on) > 3. Price, licensing & > 4. User friendliness, user interface > 5. Security issues.   H OK, I can understand asking for help on #3 and #4, but realistically the( rest should simply take a little effort.  N > If possible could you provide me with the requested information by tomorrow ! > as the paper is due on Friday!!   + > Thanks a million and await your response.   J My response would be said student should try putting forth a little effort< rather than trying to get other people to do her assignment.   > Sincerely yours, > Amy Vansen > Tourism Management Student > University of Belize > Belize City, BELIZE   L Why on earth would a "Tourism Management" student need to know about OpenVMSC anyway?!?!  Give this information question #4 seems downright mean.    		Zane   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:08:22 -0500 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> 2 Subject: Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help: Message-ID: <orqdndK3-awb2JvZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com>   Kenneth Farmer wrote:   O > Just got this email.  Normally I would respond to requests like this but I'm  . > too busy today and she needs it by tomorrow. > N > Anyone want to take a stab?  I'll check in during the course of the day and L > send her any responses.  I'll add my response tonight to whatever someone  > writes today.  >  >  >  > Information regarding OpenVMS   > ------------------------------ > O > Hello I am a student doing research on "OpenVMS", please provide me with the  # > following information as follows:  >  > 1. History of OpenVMS : > 2. Architecture (what kind of computer it is running on) > 3. Price, licensing & > 4. User friendliness, user interface > 5. Security issues.  > N > If possible could you provide me with the requested information by tomorrow ! > as the paper is due on Friday!!  > + > Thanks a million and await your response.  >  > Sincerely yours, > Amy Vansen > Tourism Management Student > University of Belize > Belize City, BELIZE  >  >  >  > Ken  > ' > _____________________________________ ! > Kenneth Farmer <>< 336-736-7376 5 > www.OpenVMS.org | dba.OpenVMS.org | dcl.OpenVMS.org  > HP OpenVMS News and Info >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > D She needs more than a little help!   She needs to learn not to wait F until 48 hours (or less) before the paper is due.   She also needs to C learn to do a least a little of her own research!  She hasn't even  ! learned what hardware it runs on!   H Last time I looked, the VMS Docs were all available on-line.  It's been - a while so that might not be true any longer.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 21:07:56 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>2 Subject: Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help+ Message-ID: <4406618C.BF3A94EF@comcast.net>    "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote:  >  > Kenneth Farmer wrote:  > P > > Just got this email.  Normally I would respond to requests like this but I'm0 > > too busy today and she needs it by tomorrow. > > O > > Anyone want to take a stab?  I'll check in during the course of the day and M > > send her any responses.  I'll add my response tonight to whatever someone  > > writes today.  > >  > >  > > ! > > Information regarding OpenVMS " > > ------------------------------ > > P > > Hello I am a student doing research on "OpenVMS", please provide me with the% > > following information as follows:  > >  > > 1. History of OpenVMS < > > 2. Architecture (what kind of computer it is running on) > > 3. Price, licensing ( > > 4. User friendliness, user interface > > 5. Security issues.  > > O > > If possible could you provide me with the requested information by tomorrow # > > as the paper is due on Friday!!  > > - > > Thanks a million and await your response.  > >  > > Sincerely yours, > > Amy Vansen > > Tourism Management Student > > University of Belize > > Belize City, BELIZE  > >  > >  > >  > > Ken  > > ) > > _____________________________________ # > > Kenneth Farmer <>< 336-736-7376 7 > > www.OpenVMS.org | dba.OpenVMS.org | dcl.OpenVMS.org  > > HP OpenVMS News and Info > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > > E > She needs more than a little help!   She needs to learn not to wait G > until 48 hours (or less) before the paper is due.   She also needs to D > learn to do a least a little of her own research!  She hasn't even# > learned what hardware it runs on!  > I > Last time I looked, the VMS Docs were all available on-line.  It's been / > a while so that might not be true any longer.     http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:47:42 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 2 Subject: Re: Student doing paper on VMS needs help, Message-ID: <44066AC6.9DA37873@teksavvy.com>   David J Dachtera wrote: K > > Last time I looked, the VMS Docs were all available on-line.  It's been 1 > > a while so that might not be true any longer.  > " > http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc       No !   it is  		http://www.hp.com/go/vms/doc    B Much shorter to type. And better reflects the real name of the OS.   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Mar 2006 15:55:35 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com K Subject: Sun says linux can't scale past 8 way, HP putting lipstick on pig! C Message-ID: <1141257334.970887.171840@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   ) http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29989    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Mar 2006 00:34:38 GMT  From: healyzh@aracnet.com O Subject: Re: Sun says linux can't scale past 8 way, HP putting lipstick on pig! , Message-ID: <du5eiu01s1u@enews2.newsguy.com>   bob@instantwhip.com wrote:+ > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29989    Troll,K Kindly take a look at SGI's product offerings.  The Altix 4700 supports 512  CPU's and runs Linux.     8 Do you ever post anything that is actually constructive?   		Zane   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:21:01 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 5 Subject: Re: Version 8.2 and CREATE/MAILBOX/TEMPORARY , Message-ID: <44061E4C.893BC398@teksavvy.com>   Guy Peleg wrote:H > to the temproary mailbox created to make sure it will not go away whenG > CREATE.EXE is being run down...we assign a channel in EXEC mode hence  > the CMEXEC requirements.    > Why isn't there a "CHANGEMODE TO SUPERVISOR"  system service ?  C Isn't it correct to state that if you were to define the mailbox in 5 supervisor mode, it would survive the image rundown ?    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:57:18 +02007 From: "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_header@hp.com> 5 Subject: Re: Version 8.2 and CREATE/MAILBOX/TEMPORARY * Message-ID: <44066d22@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message& news:44061E4C.893BC398@teksavvy.com... > Guy Peleg wrote:J > > to the temproary mailbox created to make sure it will not go away whenI > > CREATE.EXE is being run down...we assign a channel in EXEC mode hence  > > the CMEXEC requirements. >  > > > Why isn't there a "CHANGEMODE TO SUPERVISOR"  system service > E > Isn't it correct to state that if you were to define the mailbox in 7 > supervisor mode, it would survive the image rundown ?    Yes !    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.121 ************************                                                                                                                                        g֓v
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