1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 04 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 126       Contents: Re: Special MARCH 06 Deal  Re: Special MARCH 06 Deal  Re: XMI-1 on XMI-2 bus - NOT Re: XMI-1 on XMI-2 bus - NOT  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:35:07 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> " Subject: Re: Special MARCH 06 Deal8 Message-ID: <4qni0257uvms1jbdr38nft2p1uhuj5m24g@4ax.com>  M On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 21:08:18 -0600 (CST), sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)  wrote:   >From: healyzh@aracnet.com > M >> I believe the IDE is ATA33, which translates to quite pathetic, especially L >> compared to something like an U160 SCSI Card.  OTOH, if you're still on aN >> Alphastation 200 4/233 with Narrow SCSI, then the bad IDE performance might >> not be quite so bad.  > G >   Of course, on the AlpSta 200 4/233, you could plug in a decent SCSI D >card _and_ a graphics card (unless you preferred 100MHz Ethernet). E >There were even more PCI slots (and better built-in SCSI) in the two F >667MHz XP1000 systems which just failed to get bids of $300 on Ebay. 3 >The DS10L is cute, but not the best choice for me.   M I'm amazed that the 667MHz XP1000 systems didn't reach $300. That's amazingly O cheap for such a nice machine. I guess this means that the three XP1000 systems L currently for sale on Ebay as 'Buy Now' items haven't a chance of selling at" $3080, $4480 & $1595 respectively.   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 06:52:47 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)" Subject: Re: Special MARCH 06 Deal2 Message-ID: <06030406524725_20331674@antinode.org>  ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>   	 > > [...] G > >There were even more PCI slots (and better built-in SCSI) in the two H > >667MHz XP1000 systems which just failed to get bids of $300 on Ebay. 5 > >The DS10L is cute, but not the best choice for me.  > O > I'm amazed that the 667MHz XP1000 systems didn't reach $300. That's amazingly   > cheap for such a nice machine.  D    I agree.  If I hadn't already invested my life savings ($500 plusE some memory and other junk) into my two 500MHz XP1000 systems, I'd've H been even more tempted to jump on one or more of those faster ones.  Now> I'm waiting for one of those $300 Integrity systems to appear.  3 >  I guess this means that the three XP1000 systems N > currently for sale on Ebay as 'Buy Now' items haven't a chance of selling at$ > $3080, $4480 & $1595 respectively.  H    Markets are funny things.  A week ago, someone bid $293 for an AlpStaB 200 4/233 with 96MB (6* 16MB) of memory, a couple of 4GB disks, anG RRD43, a floppy, an Ethernet card, and an S3 Trio graphics card.  And a ? power cord (but no key).  You tell me why.  Gob-smacking weird.   D    I could assemble one with twice the memory and at least one key. $ Cross my palm with silver, somebody.  D    Maybe it's that out-of-date-firmware message you get on an XP1000 running VMS V8.2.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:50:56 +0100& From: "H Vlems" <nospam@what.ever.com>% Subject: Re: XMI-1 on XMI-2 bus - NOT < Message-ID: <57c5d$4409632b$513b858e$12124@news.versatel.nl>  7 "Ian King" <iking@killthewabbit.org> schreef in bericht 5 news:4408ea61$0$56217$ae4e5890@news.nationwide.net... H > I finally got my VAX 6660 into the house, I finally got the 220v wiredJ > correctly for it, and I fired it up.  Lights flashed on, fans started upF > and I was elated - for about ten seconds.  Lights went off, but fans > stayed running.  > I > After poking around a bit, I see that LED 8 on the H7206B is lit (as is J > the +14v indicator).  According to the documentation, this means there'sJ > an "XMI-1 module in XMI-2 card cage".  I've checked carefully, and ain'tA > no such thing; there's a DWMBB, CIXCD and DEMNA, along with six H > processors and four memory boards.  Also, the DWMBB's red LED comes onG > before the power goes out.  I tried pulling the DWMBB and starting it ( > up, but I got exactly the same result. > I > Do I just have a bad DWMBB?  Or might there be something else going on? H >   Anyone know exactly what this indicator means?  What's it measuring? > 5 > Thanks for any advice you can offer.  Cheers -- Ian  >  > --   > It's not junk, it's history!& > iking (@t) kill the wabbit (d.t) org  I Remove all boards except one cpu and one memory and try again. If they're F both alright then you should be able to use the serial console and runH diagnostics. Add peripheral boards one by one. Did you reseat all boards before powering up?      Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 08:02:22 -0800 ( From: Ian King <iking@killthewabbit.org>% Subject: Re: XMI-1 on XMI-2 bus - NOT ; Message-ID: <4409ba89$0$56209$ae4e5890@news.nationwide.net>    H Vlems wrote:9 > "Ian King" <iking@killthewabbit.org> schreef in bericht 7 > news:4408ea61$0$56217$ae4e5890@news.nationwide.net...  > H >>I finally got my VAX 6660 into the house, I finally got the 220v wiredJ >>correctly for it, and I fired it up.  Lights flashed on, fans started upF >>and I was elated - for about ten seconds.  Lights went off, but fans >>stayed running.  >>I >>After poking around a bit, I see that LED 8 on the H7206B is lit (as is J >>the +14v indicator).  According to the documentation, this means there'sJ >>an "XMI-1 module in XMI-2 card cage".  I've checked carefully, and ain'tA >>no such thing; there's a DWMBB, CIXCD and DEMNA, along with six H >>processors and four memory boards.  Also, the DWMBB's red LED comes onG >>before the power goes out.  I tried pulling the DWMBB and starting it ( >>up, but I got exactly the same result. >>I >>Do I just have a bad DWMBB?  Or might there be something else going on? H >>  Anyone know exactly what this indicator means?  What's it measuring? >>5 >>Thanks for any advice you can offer.  Cheers -- Ian  >> >>--   >>It's not junk, it's history!& >>iking (@t) kill the wabbit (d.t) org >  > K > Remove all boards except one cpu and one memory and try again. If they're H > both alright then you should be able to use the serial console and runJ > diagnostics. Add peripheral boards one by one. Did you reseat all boards > before powering up?  >  >  > Hans >  >  Hans,   H Thanks for your reply.  Yes, reseated everything, including both boards D and cables.  I also tried your suggestion, and got the same result. B Just to be sure it wasn't a bad proc or memory card, I even tried E different cards as the "one of each" - no joy.  If I press the reset  G button on the H7206B, the lights come back on briefly (a few seconds),  G then they go away again and LED 8 is still shining.  I have a VT420 on   the console port - nothing.   H At this point I begin to wonder if it's likely a problem in the H7206B, I not the XMI cage.  Anyone have experience with this?  Or am I headed in,  # logic analyzer at hand?  TIA -- Ian    --   It's not junk, it's history!$ iking (@t) kill the wabbit (d.t) org   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.126 ************************