1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 06 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 130       Contents:% Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM % Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM  Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz9 Re: FW: Can you change the Ethernet Address of a DE500???  Re: help with print/page, Re: Loading Alpha-VMS from a VAX served CD ?, Re: Loading Alpha-VMS from a VAX served CD ?, Re: Loading Alpha-VMS from a VAX served CD ? Re: NFS issues on VMS 7.3-1 1 OpenVMS Web ring looking for someone to adopt it. 1 Re: Plain truth is that unix/linux is NOT secure! 0 so called IT pros looking for disaster recovery? Re: Special MARCH 06 Deal  Re: TCPIP configuration  Re: TCPIP configuration # Unacknowledged Freeware Submissions  yacc C code for openVMS  Re: yacc C code for openVMS  Re: yacc C code for openVMS  Re: yacc C code for openVMS   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 06:23:26 -0800 3 From: "Big John" <john.powers@airwidesolutions.com> . Subject: Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEMB Message-ID: <1141655006.468701.91220@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>  - Hey that will be fantastic. Just what I need.   2 I look forward to VMS v9.x with much anticipation.   and thanks for listening.    - John   Guy Peleg wrote:@ > "Big John" <john.powers@airwidesolutions.com> wrote in message? > news:1141395663.707692.199510@t39g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... I > > I notice Guy is often mooting improvements to us in this list, so let  > > me moot one back.  > > I > > How about enlarging the field sizes in SHOW SYSTEM. Look what I get..  > >  > > MON1->sho sys /proc=*eir* F > > OpenVMS V7.1-2  on node MON1   3-MAR-2006 15:06:57.83  Uptime  630 > > 04:40:37J > >   Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts	 > > Pages J > > 2060066D PDS_P0005_EIR   LEF      9*********   0 18:22:37.97      5556	 > >  2458 J > > 2060066E PDS_P0007_EIRI  LEF      4  2671179   0 00:00:00.23       336	 > >   259 
 > > MON1-> > > K > > The I/O figure is too big to fit in the current display!  A nice, quick H > > and easy way I like to use, to see what's going on in a system is to? > > run show sys occasionally and watch how the numbers change.  > > ( > > But ********* doesn't change at all! > > E > > I guess this layout was designed way back in the 70's when it was J > > inconceivable that anybody would do a gig of I/O without rebooting theG > > system (or, indeed that a system would stay up for 630 days without H > > needing a reboot). But that's the way things are now. Would it be anD > > easy job to change this?  Or maybe some means of customising the > > display in the command?  > G > The greatest challenge in this type of enhancements is avoid breaking I > compatibility with prior releases. Many people parse the output of SHOW G > SYSTEM, and it may break existing procedures. Another concern is that J > increasing the width of the field will result in the display not fitting > intoE > 80 characters wide terminals. Personally, I always work at 132 mode . > but again this is something we can't ignore. > > > how about adding a new qualifier /WIDTH and several keywords1 > allowing overriding some defaults, for example:  > & > $ SHOW SYSTEM/WIDTH=(IO=10,PAGES=10) >  > What say you?  >  > Guy  >  > > 
 > > - John > >    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 10:37:06 -0800 # From: "Galen" <gltackett@gmail.com> . Subject: Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEMC Message-ID: <1141670226.771869.261870@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Steve wrote:< > Just add /WIDTH to all the commands while you're in there.  C This should perhaps be qualified somewhat. Consider these cases :-)    $ LOGOUT/WIDTH=nD Does it reset your terminal width to n columns AFTER you log out, or what?    $ SET PROCESS/SUSPEND/WIDTH=n  ???   0 $ DEFINE/WIDTH=n logical_name equivalence_string ???    $ LICENSE DISABLE/WIDTH=n  ???    :)   All in the spirit of fun,    Galen    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:02:35 +01009 From: "Robert Trawinski" <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> ! Subject: Battery for DS10/466 MHz + Message-ID: <dugtrb$6hc$1@bozon2.softax.pl>   I Our client need to replace battery in DS10/466Mhz. What type they shuold  ( buy. Is it difficult to replace battery.   Thanks in advance    Robert     ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:29:40 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz 2 Message-ID: <8k_Of.4123$zH6.1511@news.cpqcorp.net>  g In article <dugtrb$6hc$1@bozon2.softax.pl>, "Robert Trawinski" <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> writes: J :Our client need to replace battery in DS10/466Mhz. What type they shuold ) :buy. Is it difficult to replace battery.   E   Contact HP Hardware services or your hardware services provider for )   assistance in replacing the NVRAM here.   F   Like most any other repairs that can be performed inside the chassisB   of a modern computer system, if these repairs should be handled E   incorrectly, you can potentially cause several or even fatal damage E   to yourself and/or to the AlphaServer DS10 series system.   Between G   the potential (no pun intended) for static dischages and the presence F   of 110V or 220V electricity, you don't want to try this if you don't/   have the appropriate training and experience.   F   HP Services has the skills and experience and the parts necessary toF   resolve this.  The replacement part is/was 23-034V7-00, though there/   may well be a newer part number assigned now.       N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:18:34 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) B Subject: Re: FW: Can you change the Ethernet Address of a DE500???2 Message-ID: <uhZOf.4114$zH6.3247@news.cpqcorp.net>  N In article <440A3865.6040109@comcast.net>, John <norad869@comcast.net> writes:J :A layered product makes use of the mac address of the ethernet interface  :for licensing.   H   I would hope that this is not an HP layered product, but a third-party   product.    E   I will assume the product uses the hardware ROM/NVRAM/PROM address.   J   FWIW, the LMF-related licensing tools -- specifically the PAK generationJ   (PAKGEN) license -- are freely available to DSPP members.  I do not knowI   if you can convince the vendor of the problems with the current scheme, I   and I also obviously do not know that what you are doing is permissible .   within the terms of any third-party license.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 06:57:04 -0600  From: briggs@encompasserve.org! Subject: Re: help with print/page 3 Message-ID: <DGrqJ7mOmZDN@eisner.encompasserve.org>   d In article <1141406906.940705.186320@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, tomarsin2015@comcast.net writes: > Thanks for replies.  > AFRICA> sqf laserjet5lC > Printer queue LASERJET5l, idle, on AFRICA::"10.120.201.200:9100",  > mounted form DEFAULT >   <laserjet 5l> ; >   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FORM=DEFAULT) Lowercase  > /OWNER=[SYSTEM] < >   /PROCESSOR=TCPIP$TELNETSYM /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) > 6 >   Entry  Jobname         Username     Blocks  Status6 >   -----  -------         --------     ------  ------7 >     103  TAPE0909        SYSTEM         3139  Holding H >          Submitted  3-MAR-2006 10:20:28.16 /FORM=DEFAULT /PRIORITY=100E >          File: _$2$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSMGR]TAPE0909.LIS;1 /PAGES=(1,1560) H > Since VMS is always in blocks is there a way to convert the block size > into pages?   B In general, no.  There is no way.  As a rule of thumb, I generallyE figure about 10 blocks per page.  132 column output with 60 lines per H page and little or no white space can hit 15 blocks per page.  80 columnC formatted text formatted with paragraphs will be more like 5 blocks 	 per page.    Your mileage may vary.   $ COPY /LOG TAPE0909.LIS NL:  J Get the record count and divide by 60.  That'll be a pretty good estimate.     > thanks	 > phillip  >    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 04:18:10 -0800  From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk5 Subject: Re: Loading Alpha-VMS from a VAX served CD ? C Message-ID: <1141647490.166385.112460@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   F Unless you already have a version of OpenVMS Alpha that the system canA boot from which is configured to let it join the cluster, I would 4 expect that the method you're suggesting won't work.F The CD release of OpenVMS doesn't have any knowledge of or license forE clustering, nor does it know what cluster to join or what the cluster F password would be.  It would need these in order to join said cluster.G The only way I could think of for doing this would be to connect a disk E up to the VAX, backup the Alpha CD to that disk and then transfer the % disk to the Alpha and work from that.   F In other words, get some version of VMS somehow onto a local disk.  Or buy a CD drive for the Alpha!    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 08:02:31 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 5 Subject: Re: Loading Alpha-VMS from a VAX served CD ? 3 Message-ID: <YLkFC702FB6e@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <440BCFB6.F67A49C2@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:F > If one gets a CD-less Alpha, is it possible to setup an Alpha system5 > disk on a VAX from which the alpha could MOP boot ?  > I > This way, the naked Alpha could join the cluster and then access the CD + > contents and install VMS on its own disk.  > E > Or is the Alpha Installation CD only usable when the Alpha node has  > booted from it ?  D   Yes, you can satellite boot an Alpha from a VAX if you have recent   versions of VMS.  F   You will need an Alpha system disk on the VAX, and I don't know how B   you're going to create it, but you may get by with only an image   restore of the .B saveset.  E   If you are running fairly recent versions of VMS you can set up the H   VAX to run the sasme services as an Infoserver, and the install VMS on@   the Alpha the same way you would with the CD on an Infoserver.        ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 15:22:45 +01003 From: "Gorazd Kikelj" <gorazd.kikelj@nospam.hp.com> 5 Subject: Re: Loading Alpha-VMS from a VAX served CD ? * Message-ID: <440c45b6@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  I "Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message  - news:YLkFC702FB6e@eisner.encompasserve.org... 8 > In article <440BCFB6.F67A49C2@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei ( > <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:G >> If one gets a CD-less Alpha, is it possible to setup an Alpha system 6 >> disk on a VAX from which the alpha could MOP boot ? > F >  You will need an Alpha system disk on the VAX, and I don't know howC >  you're going to create it, but you may get by with only an image  >  restore of the .B saveset.   4 No .B saveset on Alpha CD. It's a PCSI installation.  A Better use infoserver functionality or connect external CD drive. A On DS10(L) I successfuly use my old ide CD from PC. Not blazingly F fast ( I won't comment on that :-) ), but usable for V7.3-2 CD distro.  ; Have no success with 8.2 and was forced to use my old RRD42  (same speed as IDE :-(( )   
 Best, Gorazd     ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 08:54:34 -0800  From: kyle.barton@asg.com $ Subject: Re: NFS issues on VMS 7.3-1C Message-ID: <1141664074.539364.228340@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>   F Yes, and there are no problems with the server. The Solaris NFS is setF up with no client restrictions. I have verified this by taking the newA VMS machine offline and assigning its IP to another machine. That D machine could connect without problem. It does appear to be a client issue only.    Thanks, Kyle   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:29:44 -0800 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>: Subject: OpenVMS Web ring looking for someone to adopt it.0 Message-ID: <C0317948.1C60C%roktsci@comcast.net>  L I have just received notice that the OpenVMS Web Ring is looking for someoneK to adopt it. IF you have an OpenVMS related Web page, and are interested in $ managing the web ring, please go to:  ' http://www.webring.com/hub?ring=openvms     And select "Adopt this Web ring"   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:27:56 +0100( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>: Subject: Re: Plain truth is that unix/linux is NOT secure!3 Message-ID: <008901c640ef$7d3933a0$994614ac@wat153>    Hello,   Andrew (Ex Sun) Harrison wrote:  >>> G So VMS which essentially has two modes is also primitive and outdated !  <<<   F AFAIK since the first steps of [Open]VMS this OS will have four modes.> There was a big discussion about this four modes and the IntelH architecture. But for me the reason why OpenVMS is a modern OS, is: that@ it support asynchronous system traps. Polling is Stone Age. IMHOG descriptors are also a distinguishing mark of a modern OS. But the best D (and what the security pushes) is memory protection. From all the *XA variants, which I know, is only the secure version of BSD (newest H version, release date last year), which have competitive features. SinceH *X scrap becomes standard (also in OpenVMS, e.g. X11, C, LPD), there areC also leaks in a lot of *X application including buffer overrun. But A AFAIK, there is no way to get root rights, other then in Solaris. G OpenVMS was designed secure from the beginning. *X was build by hackers G and security becomes as an addon of the kernel. Are you able to set the E rights for user, host and protocol under Solaris Desktop (I know only  xhost + to add hosts).   Best regards R. Wingert    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 10:29:46 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com 9 Subject: so called IT pros looking for disaster recovery? C Message-ID: <1141669786.543615.224210@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   D have these people ever heard of OpenVMS clusters?  How did they ever get  the position they hold?     Z http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/recovery/story/0,10801,109198,00.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:20:55 +0000 D From: Tim ffrench-Lynch <tim-DOT-ffrench-HYPHEN-lynch@selex-sas.com>" Subject: Re: Special MARCH 06 Deal- Message-ID: <440C3737.743D64CE@selex-sas.com>    healyzh@aracnet.com wrote:L > I believe the IDE is ATA33, which translates to quite pathetic, especiallyK > compared to something like an U160 SCSI Card.  OTOH, if you're still on a M > Alphastation 200 4/233 with Narrow SCSI, then the bad IDE performance might  > not be quite so bad.  @ Using a DS10L 617MHz with twin 120GB IDE drives I run out of IDE< bandwidth at the figures below, with disk B limiting overall performance of the system.!   Disk A  1.6 MBytes/second write <   Disk B  1.6 MBytes/second read    0.55 MBytes/second writeC This is with around 30 files open for read/write on disk B, I might ) see what happens with fewer files in use.    Tim    ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 07:10:27 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)  Subject: Re: TCPIP configuration$ Message-ID: <dugn92$i58$1@online.de>  5 In article <440B8B25.A26E5877@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei ' <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:    ; > DEFINE/SYSTYEM  TCPIP$SMTP_POSTMASTER_ALIAS  "postmaster"   E OK, this weekend is documentation weekend.  Until then, is there any  E harm possible by issuing the above command without changing anything   else?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:51:48 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>   Subject: Re: TCPIP configuration, Message-ID: <440BEA07.4E9E27EA@teksavvy.com>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:   = > > DEFINE/SYSTYEM  TCPIP$SMTP_POSTMASTER_ALIAS  "postmaster"  > F > OK, this weekend is documentation weekend.  Until then, is there anyF > harm possible by issuing the above command without changing anything > else?    you also want to do:  , MAIL> SET FORWARD/USER="postmaster" USERNAME  0 where "USERNAME" is a valid vmsmail destination.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:11:26 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) , Subject: Unacknowledged Freeware Submissions1 Message-ID: <OaZOf.4112$zH6.470@news.cpqcorp.net>   G   If you have not received an acknowledgement for your OpenVMS Freeware F   web site submission and you submitted it prior to Friday, 3-Mar-2006C   -- prior to the opening of active Freeware V8.0 solicitations --  '   please consider resubmitting the kit.   E   There existed a silent problem with the forwarding for the Freeware E   submission notifications, and some number of submissions made prior H   to 3-Mar-2006 likely did not make it through.   Based on email trafficF   since 3-Mar-2006 and the opening of solicitations for Freeware V8.0,/   the submissions are now arriving as expected.      The submission URL:   (   http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/freeware/    1   Submissions for Freeware V8.0 close 1-May-2006.     N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 00:53:21 -0800 & From: "aks" <puneettandon84@gmail.com>  Subject: yacc C code for openVMSB Message-ID: <1141635201.479545.63080@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>  6 where could i get the Yacc C source code for openVMS..   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 12:08:08 +0100 ( From: JOUKJ <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl>$ Subject: Re: yacc C code for openVMS3 Message-ID: <440C1818.3000106@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl>   
 aks wrote:8 > where could i get the Yacc C source code for openVMS.. >   / Bison for VMS can be found on the freeware CD : =     http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware40/bison-a2_3/ E Bison is a yacc replacement and is supposed to be compatible with it.   
       Jouk   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 08:04:14 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) $ Subject: Re: yacc C code for openVMS3 Message-ID: <DqeE7sErdfwx@eisner.encompasserve.org>   k In article <1141635201.479545.63080@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, "aks" <puneettandon84@gmail.com> writes: 8 > where could i get the Yacc C source code for openVMS.. > G    You can get gnu bison from your favorite web site and use it as your     yacc.  4    You can also get gnu flex and use it as your lex.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:29:30 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) $ Subject: Re: yacc C code for openVMS2 Message-ID: <KrZOf.4116$zH6.3624@news.cpqcorp.net>  k In article <1141635201.479545.63080@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, "aks" <puneettandon84@gmail.com> writes: 7 :where could i get the Yacc C source code for openVMS..   E   Sources of software -- including flex and bison, which are versions I   of lex and yacc -- are listed in the OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions E   (FAQ) document.  There are large sections around locating software.   D   For OpenVMS, you can also load gnv package, an HP-provided packageC   which includes a large number of tools -- GNV provides tools, and &   it makes porting other tools easier.  C   You'll also find a PCSI installation kit containing Bison on the  E   Spring 2004 VMS / Languages & Tools SIG Tapes -- these are kits are E   available at various sites, including at the Encompass/DECUS sites. #   (The kit I located requires GNV.)      Some URLs I located:  %     http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq/ 8     http://h71000.www7.hp.com/OpenSource/opensource.html=     http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=04/03/17/2541005   F   If you or someone else do port across current lex and yacc versions E   (to GNV or to full native OpenVMS), do let me know and I'll toss it C   onto the next OpenVMS Freeware distribution, licenses permitting.   *     http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/freeware/    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.130 ************************