1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 07 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 131       Contents:% Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM % Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM % Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM % Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM % Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM  Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz CSWB is not "secure" Re: CSWB is not "secure" Re: CSWB is not "secure" Re: CSWB is not "secure" Re: CSWB is not "secure" Re: CSWB is not "secure" Re: CSWB is not "secure"' Documentation suggestion: product names + Re: Documentation suggestion: product names , Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure, Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure, Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure Re: help with print/page Marketing suggestion for VMS5 Re: OpenVMS Web ring looking for someone to adopt it.  Postgres Drivers for Cobol Re: READ /SYMBOL ???? , Re: Rich Marcello in VMS mention shocker :-), Re: Rich Marcello in VMS mention shocker :-)8 Run Program with Shareable Image in Non-Default Location< Re: Run Program with Shareable Image in Non-Default Location< Re: Run Program with Shareable Image in Non-Default Location4 Re: so called IT pros looking for disaster recovery?, Re: Suggestion: SET FILE/ATTRIB=FDL=filename  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:56:45 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda). Subject: Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM2 Message-ID: <06030612564518_20331674@antinode.org>  # From: "Galen" <gltackett@gmail.com>   > > > Just add /WIDTH to all the commands while you're in there.  E > This should perhaps be qualified somewhat. Consider these cases :-)  >  > $ LOGOUT/WIDTH=nF > Does it reset your terminal width to n columns AFTER you log out, or > what?  >  > $ SET PROCESS/SUSPEND/WIDTH=n  > ???  > 2 > $ DEFINE/WIDTH=n logical_name equivalence_string > ???  >  > $ LICENSE DISABLE/WIDTH=n  > ???   G    I figured that it would be more important to get the qualifier added H everywhere now.  Figuring out what it was supposed to do (or mean) could@ be left for a future "-n" release.  Think of the potential errorC messages.  I'm reminded (for no good reason, probably) of APL\1130, H which caused me to seek a dictionary one day (long ago) when it spewed aH "nonce error" at me.  I can see it now: "DCL-F-NONCE, hold your breath".  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:45:37 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> . Subject: Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM, Message-ID: <440C9159.B467AAB0@teksavvy.com>   "Steven M. Schweda" wrote: > > $ LICENSE DISABLE/WIDTH=n  > > ???  > I >    I figured that it would be more important to get the qualifier added  > everywhere now.   F But this qualifier may not be consistent across all commands, consider= the following example that GUY PELEG is currently working on:    PIZZA/ORDER/WIDTH=12"   9 In this case, it isn't about character width of a screen.   F and when they add /FONT to all the VMS commands, the width will becomeH pixels because when you start using proportional fonts, you can't reallyF talk about width in "number of characters". So if you implement /WIDTH< now, you should make provisions for /UNITS or something like< /WIDTH=(UNITS=ChAR,VALUE=80) /WIDTH=(UNITS=PIXELS,VALUE=600)  ) PIZZA/ORDER/WIDTH=(UNITS=INCHES,VALUE=12)    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 12:13:38 -0800  From: davidc@montagar.com . Subject: Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEMC Message-ID: <1141676018.346638.317590@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>    I like this.  @ While you're in there, one that might be beneficial (think about? AJAX-type applications monitoring a VMS system) would be a SHOW D SYSTEM/XML, which would output the information in an XML format, for" slicing and dicing however needed.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 16:16:34 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) . Subject: Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM3 Message-ID: <Eiem5AlhtgU7@eisner.encompasserve.org>   _ In article <06030612564518_20331674@antinode.org>, sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) writes:   I >    I figured that it would be more important to get the qualifier added J > everywhere now.  Figuring out what it was supposed to do (or mean) couldB > be left for a future "-n" release.  Think of the potential errorE > messages.  I'm reminded (for no good reason, probably) of APL\1130, J > which caused me to seek a dictionary one day (long ago) when it spewed aJ > "nonce error" at me.  I can see it now: "DCL-F-NONCE, hold your breath".  @    As seen in DEC C when I tried to compile source with some gnu    extensions in it.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:43:37 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>. Subject: Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM+ Message-ID: <440CC929.47814B27@comcast.net>    davidc@montagar.com wrote: >  > I like this. > B > While you're in there, one that might be beneficial (think aboutA > AJAX-type applications monitoring a VMS system) would be a SHOW F > SYSTEM/XML, which would output the information in an XML format, for$ > slicing and dicing however needed.   Oh, YES! I LIKE that idea!  D How 'bout in V8.4(?) or V9.1, provide via the common utility library either    4 /OUTPUT=([DESTINATION=]filespec[,FORMAT={PLAIN|XML})   ...or...  ' $ SET PROCESS/OUTPUT_FORMAT={PLAIN|XML}   3 ...which could be effective for PIPElined commands.   # (".0" "curse" tacitly acknowledged)    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:21:52 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz + Message-ID: <473k2mFdm6nlU1@individual.net>   * On 2006-03-06 18:29, "Hoff Hoffman" wrote:  i > In article <dugtrb$6hc$1@bozon2.softax.pl>, "Robert Trawinski" <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> writes: L > :Our client need to replace battery in DS10/466Mhz. What type they shuold %                               ^^^^^^^ + > :buy. Is it difficult to replace battery.  > G >   Contact HP Hardware services or your hardware services provider for + >   assistance in replacing the NVRAM here. %                                 ^^^^^   D An "NVRAM" with a "backup battery"?? Or are NVRAM, RTC _and_ batteryF moulded into a single case? (I'd consider a battery a "user replacableA part" of course -- whether Alkaline, Lithium, or NiCd accumulator  doesn't matter.)   > [...]    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 15:52:53 -0500C From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@icusc.com> % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz 6 Message-ID: <2a1Pf.1982$s8.367@bignews7.bellsouth.net>  : I am assuming this is the clock battery pn: DALLAS DS12887    We have them in stock for $19.95     + shipping of course   David      --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X252  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html   7 "If Progress is good for the people, what is Congress?" D "Robert Trawinski" <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> wrote in message% news:dugtrb$6hc$1@bozon2.softax.pl... J > Our client need to replace battery in DS10/466Mhz. What type they shuold* > buy. Is it difficult to replace battery. >  > Thanks in advance  >  > Robert >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:35:59 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz 2 Message-ID: <3s5Pf.4173$Y%6.3592@news.cpqcorp.net>  a In article <473k2mFdm6nlU1@individual.net>, Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> writes: E :An "NVRAM" with a "backup battery"?? Or are NVRAM, RTC _and_ battery  :moulded into a single case?  E   Most any of the current systems use one of several clock chips, and C   these have the console NVRAM and the battery on the same carrier. C   The 23-034V7-00 part number is (or once was) the correct part for *   this AlphaServer DS10 series clock chip.  E   This implementation -- combined with how the console type constants C   could have been allocated differently (in hindsight) -- is why a  E   failed battery on an Alpha system tends to causes both the loss of  E   system time *and* a reset over into the AlphaBIOS console *and* the D   loss of various other settings.  They're all protected by the same+   battery, and when it ergs out its last...   D   Most of these clock chips I'd worked with seem to be lithium-basedC   batteries, and these appear to have a lifetime of somewhat longer .   than about five years in typical operations.  F   The VAX systems tend to have external rechargable battery packs (andF   usually NiCd), but even a few of these VAX systems can use the clockH   chips.  The older battery packs could also fail, and could also becomeC   drained if the system was left unconnected for several weeks, the A   latter of which is a problem that the lithium cells don't have.    	--   F   If you are not familiar with anti-static and safe component handlingC   requirements, and with safe operations around potentially lethal  C   voltages, I recommend refering the service work to an individual  D   or organization that is familiar with and is trained for the task.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:46:33 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com> Subject: CSWB is not "secure" * Message-ID: <ZB5Pf.4797$sp4.4373@trnddc01>  B The "S" is supposed to stand for "Secure" and they make a big deal9 about how this means it supports SSL.  So WTF doesn't it?   @ I have never been able to get it to access any HTTPS sites (e.g. most shopping sites.)   ? I've read the F manuals.  There is nothing I can find that says 5 you have to do anything special to enable SSL in CSWB   ; I just tried upgrading SSL from V1.1-B to V1.2.  No change.   ? VMS V7.3-2, CSWB 1.7-11, SSL 1.1-B and SSL 1.2, TCPWare V5.6-2.   > Whenever I try to use anything the requires SSL, it puts up an Alert box that says:  D "Could not initialize browser's security component.  The most likelyA cause is problems with files in your browser's profile directory. H Please check that this directory has no read/write restrictions and yourH hard disk is not full or close to full.  It is recommended that you exitE the browser and fix the problem.  If you continue to use this browser @ session, you might see incorrect browser behavior when accessing security features."   B (Painfully typed in, since it won't let me cut and paste the box.)  C What profile directory?  sys$common:[cswb.defaults.profile]?  Or is B there supposed to be some parallel sub-directory under my personal. directory?  If so, it doesn't exist (why not?)  H Everything in [cswb...] is (RWED,RWED,RE,RE) except for some directoriesH are (RWE,RWE,RE,RE) and everything is owned by [SYSTEM].  There were two7 files that were (RWED,RWED,RE,) (i.e. no world access): 1    $1$DKC0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.CSWB.CHROME]CHROME.RDF  and 3    $1$DKC0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.CSWB.COMPONENTS]XPTI.DAT   * I changed both of these to w:re.  No help.  E Everything in my [._MOZILLA...] tree belongs to me and has reasonable  protection.   A Are they serious about *write* access to the system tree?  Sounds A totally bogus, but I crosses my fingers, knocked 3 times on wood, 3 gave myself BYPASS and tried again.  No difference.   E The system disk and my user disk both have more than 1,000,000 blocks F free.  No disk quotas.  This does not constitute "close to full" in my opinion.  < When I dismiss the "Alert" box, I get another one, typicallyA   "You cannot connect to www.amazon.com because SSL is disabled."  and I can't get in, of course.  4 I've enabled all the SSL stuff in "Edit/Preferences"  @ As far as I can tell, SSL and Mozilla are installed okay and are0 running fine otherwise (and SSL passed its IVP).   Has anyone ever seen this work?    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:20:23 +0000 7 From: David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> ! Subject: Re: CSWB is not "secure" * Message-ID: <440CEDE7.8050801@bigpond.com>  ! John Santos mentioned in passing: D > The "S" is supposed to stand for "Secure" and they make a big deal; > about how this means it supports SSL.  So WTF doesn't it?  > B > I have never been able to get it to access any HTTPS sites (e.g. > most shopping sites.)  > A > I've read the F manuals.  There is nothing I can find that says 7 > you have to do anything special to enable SSL in CSWB  > = > I just tried upgrading SSL from V1.1-B to V1.2.  No change.  > A > VMS V7.3-2, CSWB 1.7-11, SSL 1.1-B and SSL 1.2, TCPWare V5.6-2.  > 
 	[...snip...]  > ! > Has anyone ever seen this work?  >   A I am using VMS 7.3-2, CSWB 1.7-11, SSL 1.0-A and have no problems 7 also on VMS 8.0 with no SSL installed with no problems. < This looks like it is the same sort of problem that preventsA junk mail processing -- I logged a call on this back in September * last year and haven't had an answer (yet).   Regards, Dave --  B David B Sneddon (dbs) VMS Systems Programmer dbsneddon@bigpond.comB Sneddo's quick guide ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/B DBS freeware   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:10:57 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ! Subject: Re: CSWB is not "secure" + Message-ID: <440CEB90.150090C@teksavvy.com>    John Santos wrote:D > The "S" is supposed to stand for "Secure" and they make a big deal; > about how this means it supports SSL.  So WTF doesn't it?   1 You may be missing some logical name definition ?   H Have you tried to use SET WATCH FILE to figure out what that applicationE is trying to access ? It may give a clue on where it expects some SSL  shareable image to be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:39:59 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ! Subject: Re: CSWB is not "secure" ( Message-ID: <ops50xsx0rzgicya@hyrrokkin>  C On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:46:33 GMT, John Santos <john@egh.com> wrote:   ! > Has anyone ever seen this work?  > * You may wish to consider upgrading to WASD   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:59:12 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)! Subject: Re: CSWB is not "secure" 6 Message-ID: <00A524D8.853773EB@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  N In article <ops50xsx0rzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:D >On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:46:33 GMT, John Santos <john@egh.com> wrote: > " >> Has anyone ever seen this work? >>+ >You may wish to consider upgrading to WASD   I That's not really a responsive answer; CSWB is Mozilla, the browser; CSWS K (or just SWS now, I guess) is Apache, the server.  John's problems are with 8 the browser; replacing his server won't do much for him.  G (Nothing against WASD, which I think is great - it's just an irrelevant  suggestion here.)    -- Alan    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:34:56 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ! Subject: Re: CSWB is not "secure" ( Message-ID: <ops500ciwuzgicya@hyrrokkin>  I On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:59:12 GMT, Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing   ' <winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> wrote:   J > In article <ops50xsx0rzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  	 > writes: F >> On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:46:33 GMT, John Santos <john@egh.com> wrote: >># >>> Has anyone ever seen this work?  >>> - >> You may wish to consider upgrading to WASD  > K > That's not really a responsive answer; CSWB is Mozilla, the browser; CSWS J > (or just SWS now, I guess) is Apache, the server.  John's problems are   > with: > the browser; replacing his server won't do much for him. > I > (Nothing against WASD, which I think is great - it's just an irrelevant  > suggestion here.)   J My fault, carelessness, I thought I saw CSWS, and obviopusly didn't read   the text
 carefully. > 	 > -- Alan  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:27:02 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>! Subject: Re: CSWB is not "secure" * Message-ID: <qY7Pf.4827$sp4.1429@trnddc01>   Tom Linden wrote: K > On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:59:12 GMT, Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing   ) > <winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> wrote:  > 9 >> In article <ops50xsx0rzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden"   >> <tom@kednos.com>  writes: >>G >>> On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:46:33 GMT, John Santos <john@egh.com> wrote:  >>> $ >>>> Has anyone ever seen this work? >>>>. >>> You may wish to consider upgrading to WASD >> >>L >> That's not really a responsive answer; CSWB is Mozilla, the browser; CSWSF >> (or just SWS now, I guess) is Apache, the server.  John's problems  >> are  with; >> the browser; replacing his server won't do much for him.  >>J >> (Nothing against WASD, which I think is great - it's just an irrelevant >> suggestion here.) >  > F > My fault, carelessness, I thought I saw CSWS, and obviopusly didn't  > read  the text > carefully. >  >>
 >> -- Alan   It's getting late :-)   G A bit of progress.  Several people responded offline (is that the right C term, by email rather than on the newsgroup.)  Mostly to say it was ? working for them.  One said I must be special.  (Ralph Wiggum?)   G Anyway, it inspired me to keep plugging away, and I discovered it isn't C a system thing; other accounts on the same Alpha can do Mozilla SSL 
 just fine.  E (As an aside, does SWB even use the SSL package, or is its SSL linked A in?  I.E. is the SSL package the server side, as would be used by @ SWS, WASD, etc., or both the server and client side, which a web browser would need?)  C Someone whose initials are almost SWS suggested playing around with E profiles (under the Tools menu), and I made a new profile which seems E to work fine.  I did lose all my saved mail, newsgroup settings, etc. @ (all still there under the old profile, so I haven't really lostH anything), but this is major progress.  Each profile seems to correspondE to a directory tree under SYS$LOGIN:[._MOZILLA]  Maybe a corrupt file A in the old tree, or maybe some odd setting somewhere.  (If it's a : preference setting, it sure is a bad way of reporting it.)     --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:34:07 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 0 Subject: Documentation suggestion: product names, Message-ID: <440C9CB3.F8C58215@teksavvy.com>  G Is it really necessary to prefix the manual name with this week's owner 	 of VMS ?    C Not only must this be a headache when you have manuals that are DEC F Compaq and now HP, but it also messes up alphabetical listings. If youD are looking for the C compiler, is it under DECC, Compaq C or HP C ?  @ And some products names such as DCPS (DeC Print Supervisor) willE probably retain the "DEC" name. Obviously DECNET won't become HPNET.    D Or is this an omen for which products HP intends to continue ? ThoseG without the HP branding are slated for "mature/retured" status and only = those with the HP branding are to continue to be developped ?    ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:18:16 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)4 Subject: Re: Documentation suggestion: product names$ Message-ID: <dui8un$811$1@online.de>  5 In article <440C9CB3.F8C58215@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei ' <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:    I > Is it really necessary to prefix the manual name with this week's owner  > of VMS ?    = Not just the manual name, but the name of the product itself.   E > Not only must this be a headache when you have manuals that are DEC H > Compaq and now HP, but it also messes up alphabetical listings. If youF > are looking for the C compiler, is it under DECC, Compaq C or HP C ?   Indeed.   B > And some products names such as DCPS (DeC Print Supervisor) willG > probably retain the "DEC" name. Obviously DECNET won't become HPNET.   > F > Or is this an omen for which products HP intends to continue ? ThoseI > without the HP branding are slated for "mature/retured" status and only ? > those with the HP branding are to continue to be developped ?    I'm reminded of this gem:   K http://groups.google.de/group/comp.os.vms/msg/f60919f4f830fcf9?dmode=source    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 11:19:42 -0800 1 From: "pcoviello@gmail.com" <pcoviello@gmail.com> 5 Subject: Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure B Message-ID: <1141672782.484669.65460@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>  F ok I followed your post above with some mods ( single quotes around P1 & P2)  but now I'm getting this    thanks Paul   $ @test 01-oct-2005 01-nov-2005 A $ if P1 .eqs. "" then Inquire start_date "Please Enter Start Date  dd-mmm-yyyy"= $ if P2 .eqs. "" then Inquire end_date "Please Enter End Date  dd-mmm-yyyy"; $ start_date = f$cvtime(01-OCT-2005, "comparison", "date" ) = %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling   \OCT\9 $ end_date = f$cvtime(01-NOV-2005, "comparison", "date" ) = %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling   \NOV\   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:13:29 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>5 Subject: Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure + Message-ID: <440CC219.C0615189@comcast.net>    "pcoviello@gmail.com" wrote: > H > ok I followed your post above with some mods ( single quotes around P1! > & P2)  but now I'm getting this  >  > thanks > Paul > ! > $ @test 01-oct-2005 01-nov-2005 C > $ if P1 .eqs. "" then Inquire start_date "Please Enter Start Date  > dd-mmm-yyyy"? > $ if P2 .eqs. "" then Inquire end_date "Please Enter End Date  > dd-mmm-yyyy"= > $ start_date = f$cvtime(01-OCT-2005, "comparison", "date" ) ? > %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling  >  \OCT\; > $ end_date = f$cvtime(01-NOV-2005, "comparison", "date" ) ? > %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling  >  \NOV\  H Try using P1 amd P2 as per the original post. The fact that the contentsD of those symbols are appearing indicates that you may be doing this:  3 $ start_date = f$cvtime('p1, "comparison", "date" ) 1 $ end_date = f$cvtime('p2, "comparison", "date" )    ...instead of this:   2 $ start_date = f$cvtime(p1, "comparison", "date" )0 $ end_date = f$cvtime(p2, "comparison", "date" )   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:40:09 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) 5 Subject: Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure 2 Message-ID: <Zv5Pf.4174$Y%6.1366@news.cpqcorp.net>  v In article <1141672782.484669.65460@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, "pcoviello@gmail.com" <pcoviello@gmail.com> writes: ..  :$ @test 01-oct-2005 01-nov-2005B :$ if P1 .eqs. "" then Inquire start_date "Please Enter Start Date
 :dd-mmm-yyyy" > :$ if P2 .eqs. "" then Inquire end_date "Please Enter End Date
 :dd-mmm-yyyy"  ..    I   INQUIRE is a strange and powerful DCL command, and one best left to DCL F   Wizards -- I'd recommend using READ/PROMPT, at least until you fullyI   understand the strange powers of INQUIRE.  (And once you understand the H   full power, you'll probably then want to use READ/PROMPT.  I certainlyI   avoid INQUIRE, myself.)  INQUIRE is locked out in certain DCL contexts, :   too, simply because of what the command can actually do.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:55:47 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>! Subject: Re: help with print/page + Message-ID: <440CCC03.54FAC4CC@comcast.net>    tomarsin2015@comcast.net wrote:  >  > Thanks for replies.  > AFRICA> sqf laserjet5lC > Printer queue LASERJET5l, idle, on AFRICA::"10.120.201.200:9100",  > mounted form DEFAULT >   <laserjet 5l> ; >   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FORM=DEFAULT) Lowercase  > /OWNER=[SYSTEM] < >   /PROCESSOR=TCPIP$TELNETSYM /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) > 6 >   Entry  Jobname         Username     Blocks  Status6 >   -----  -------         --------     ------  ------7 >     103  TAPE0909        SYSTEM         3139  Holding H >          Submitted  3-MAR-2006 10:20:28.16 /FORM=DEFAULT /PRIORITY=100E >          File: _$2$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSMGR]TAPE0909.LIS;1 /PAGES=(1,1560)   H Ah! Apparently, this long-standing bug in the TELNET symbiont has yet toA be corrected. AFAIK, this goes all the way back to the V4.1 days,  possibly earlier.   H Try another poster's suggestion about selecting a limited range near BOFH and see how you fare. As Hoff and others suggest, there is often a greatG disagreement between the content of the file, the settings on the print A form - even the file's attributes - that can prevent the expected  results from occuring.  F In my PPF.BAS (http://www.djesys.com/freeware/vms/ppf012.zip), I triedE to discern whether the file to be sent to the terminal's printer port > contains embedded carriage control and have the program behave6 accordingly. I'm sure my success was limited, at best.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:14:51 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> % Subject: Marketing suggestion for VMS , Message-ID: <440C8A25.82E2D8FB@teksavvy.com>  < HP could remarket allmighty Microvax II's with this slogan :  < "Compile your program in less than 30 minutes or it is free"   :-) ;-) ;_) ;-) ;-) :-) :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:10:44 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> > Subject: Re: OpenVMS Web ring looking for someone to adopt it., Message-ID: <440C892E.A5207891@teksavvy.com>   Jeff Cameron wrote:  > N > I have just received notice that the OpenVMS Web Ring is looking for someoneM > to adopt it. IF you have an OpenVMS related Web page, and are interested in & > managing the web ring, please go to: > ) > http://www.webring.com/hub?ring=openvms  > " > And select "Adopt this Web ring"  H BTW, I had extracted the web ring links some time ago and put them up onB my web site for easier access that doesn't require javascript etc.* http://www.vaxination.ca/vms/webring.html   E A few days ago, I generated a list of those sites which are no longer F reacheable or which have changed location but haven't gotten around to fixing them yet.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 12:13:58 -0800 ! From: "James" <horn.jt@gmail.com> # Subject: Postgres Drivers for Cobol B Message-ID: <1141676037.943140.85560@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>  E We have a large number of programs that need to be able to make calls G to a postgres database from HP Cobol. Any ideas where I might find some  drivers like this?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:22:46 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: READ /SYMBOL ????+ Message-ID: <440CC446.5451A761@comcast.net>   / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  > > > In article <44066056.B4BA6696@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera% > <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:  >  > > JF Mezei wrote:  > > > B > > > WRITE has had /SYMBOL to allow the writing of large symbols. > > > N > > > What restrictions does READ have with regards to reading large records ? > > > M > > > Seems to be a limit of near 256 bytes. (Am trying to read raw data from $ > > > DECNET fed by the web server). > > > L > > > Why is there not a READ/SYMBOL to allow the reading of large records ? > > > I > > > HELP READ doesn't seem to specify any limits. HELP WRITE mentions a B > > > default limit of 1024, expandable to 2048 when using /SYMBOL > > 0 > > Hate to do this, but what's the VMS version? > C > With 7.X (I don't recall now what X was), several DCL limits were  > increased.  B See the URL referenced in my reply to JF's post. The string-length. limits change very nicely in V7.3-2 and later.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:19:29 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>5 Subject: Re: Rich Marcello in VMS mention shocker :-) + Message-ID: <440CC381.C0016A31@comcast.net>   ( "AlexNOSPAMDaniels@themail.co.uk" wrote: > 7 > "Bill Gunshannon" <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote in message ' > news:46kdmiFb9062U1@individual.net... - > >  I doubt Bill Gates gives a rats patootie 7 > > about VMS.  Assuming he even knows it still exists.  > I > He does know it exists, here are a few of his more public references to  > it.  > E > http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/industry&tech/uexpo.asp C > http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/2004/03-29Gartner.asp D > http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/2005/10-13Waterloo.asp >  > Alex  ; Naturally, none of those pages work with an older Netscape.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 22:58:32 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 5 Subject: Re: Rich Marcello in VMS mention shocker :-) 3 Message-ID: <gYZT0zLIuVDr@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <440CC381.C0016A31@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:* > "AlexNOSPAMDaniels@themail.co.uk" wrote: >>  8 >> "Bill Gunshannon" <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote in message( >> news:46kdmiFb9062U1@individual.net.... >> >  I doubt Bill Gates gives a rats patootie8 >> > about VMS.  Assuming he even knows it still exists. >>  J >> He does know it exists, here are a few of his more public references to >> it. >>  F >> http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/industry&tech/uexpo.aspD >> http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/2004/03-29Gartner.aspE >> http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/2005/10-13Waterloo.asp  >>   >> Alex  > = > Naturally, none of those pages work with an older Netscape.   : They work for me with Netscape Communicator 4.75-20000815.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 16:57:56 -0800 ( From: "Craig Dedo" <Dedo.Craig@mayo.edu>A Subject: Run Program with Shareable Image in Non-Default Location C Message-ID: <1141693075.951444.318040@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>   F How do you get an executable program to run properly when it is linked> with a shareable image in a non-default location, i.e., not in SYS$SHARE nor in SYS$LIBRARY?   C As part of our programming conventions, we create our site-specific F shareable images in places other than SYS$SHARE and SYS$LIBRARY, e.g.,! in site-specific directory trees.   E I can link the shareable image and put it in its proper site-specific F location.  I can link the executable program and include the shareableG image.  Both of these operations do not produce any warnings or errors.   ; However, when I run the linked program, I get this message:   > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SHARE_ALL_CTS_MESSAGES% -CLI-E-IMAGEFNF, image file not found < DSA5012:[SYS7.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SHARE_ALL_CTS_MESSAGES.EXE;  @ The directory referenced in the message equates to SYS$SHARE and SYS$LIBRARY.   How do I get around this?   A I looked in the OpenVMS Programming Concepts Reference and in the D OpenVMS Linker Reference and I could not find anything about finding shareable images at run time.   D FWIW, I am not using a GSMATCH directive in the Linker options file. Do I need one?  
 Sincerely, Craig T. Dedo, VMS Consultant $ Mayo Central Lab for Clinical Trials& Superior Drive Support Center 2-110-26 200 1st Street SW  Rochester, MN   55905  Voice Phone:  (507) 538-4636 Fax Phone:    (507) 284-0615 Mobile Phone:  (414) 412-5869  E-mail:  <Dedo.Craig@mayo.edu>   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:19:20 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) E Subject: Re: Run Program with Shareable Image in Non-Default Location 2 Message-ID: <I46Pf.4175$C_6.1143@news.cpqcorp.net>  n In article <1141693075.951444.318040@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>, "Craig Dedo" <Dedo.Craig@mayo.edu> writes:G :How do you get an executable program to run properly when it is linked ? :with a shareable image in a non-default location, i.e., not in  :SYS$SHARE nor in SYS$LIBRARY?     With:   :   $ DEFINE shrimgnam ddcu:[dir]othershareimagefilename.exe  D   If the executable image is installed, you will need to install the@   shareable image components, and you will need to use a trustedA   logical name table and trusted logical name mode to redirect to    another image:  B   $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXECUTIVE shrimgnam ddcu:[dir]othershrimgnam.exe  E :FWIW, I am not using a GSMATCH directive in the Linker options file.  :Do I need one?   K   If you want to be able to upgrade your upward-compatible shareable images 3   without relinking everything, then typically yes.   H   Do see the Shareable Image Cookbook (referenced in the OpenVMS FAQ andM   available at the Ask The Wizard area <http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/wizard>, H   as a start.  Look in the left navigation for the link to the cookbook.  = :DSA5012:[SYS7.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SHARE_ALL_CTS_MESSAGES.EXE;   C   The OpenVMS message files -- it is obviously not certain what you D   have in this image -- are handled a little differently, if you areB   using those constructs -- which message you get and how it works@   depends heavily on the particular sequence of MESSAGE and LINK?   commands that you have used.  (If this SHARE_ALL_CTS_MESSAGES B   image is NOT an OpenVMS message file, then this does not apply.)  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:15:16 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>E Subject: Re: Run Program with Shareable Image in Non-Default Location * Message-ID: <U06Pf.9726$eP4.6979@trnddc05>   JF Mezei wrote:  > Craig Dedo wrote:  > = >>However, when I run the linked program, I get this message:  >>@ >>%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SHARE_ALL_CTS_MESSAGES' >>-CLI-E-IMAGEFNF, image file not found > >>DSA5012:[SYS7.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SHARE_ALL_CTS_MESSAGES.EXE; >  > N > $DEFINE SHARE_ALL_CTS_MESSAGES  $disk:[dir.subdir]SHARE_ALL_CTS_MESSAGES.EXE > H > Note that there are some security implications to this if any user canL > redefine the logical to point to a fake copy copy of your shareable image. > J > Some applications ensure they access only system/wide logicals, and someA > go one step further by requiring the logical be defined /EXEC.  F > (Question: can this be achieved with LINK or only through the use of > LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL ?)  H If the program calling the shareable image is installed with privileges,D then the logical name pointing to the shareable image must be /EXEC.= (I think it used to also have to he /SYSTEM, but I think this D requirement has been relaxed.)  This certainly applies to executableG images linked with shareable images.  I don't think you can bypass this 4 with LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL, but I've never tried it.  A The users can't wreak any havoc with non-privileged programs that D they couldn't do anyway with simple DCL access, so this isn't reallyG an issue.  If you are just trying to keep them from shooting themselves B in the foot, then you probably can't trust them in DCL and so theyE should be CAPTIVE.  (If your app won't define arbitrary logical names C for them on demand, and they are captive, they can't subvert this.)   A You could always install the calling program with /PRIV=TMPMBX or B something else everyone has anyway, to enforce the /EXEC-mode only rule if you want.   D BTW, to answer the snipped question, GSMATCH is usually a good idea,E but not a requirement.  It does allow you to make backward-compatible A changes to the shareable image without having to re-link all your A executable images.  Increment the minor level in the GSMATCH when B you change the shareable, and this will prevent new programs whichB require the new feature(s) from running with an old version of theD shareable image, but will continue to allow old programs which don'tB require the new features, but don't care about them one way or the- other to continue to work without re-linking.   E This is especially useful for bug-fixes in the shareable image.  If a F bug requires a change to both the caller (in the executable image) andE the called routine (in the shareable image), then increment the major F level in the GSMATCH and it will force a re-link of everything.  Won'tF guarantee the bug is fixed on both sides, but it will at least prevent1 you from running something without looking at it.   B If you don't use GSMATCH, the linker essentially produces a randomD GSMATCH value, forcing a re-link of all the executables any time the shareable is re-linked.    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 16:19:45 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) = Subject: Re: so called IT pros looking for disaster recovery? 3 Message-ID: <PPgcyI9gGpwY@eisner.encompasserve.org>   _ In article <1141669786.543615.224210@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, bob@instantwhip.com writes: F > have these people ever heard of OpenVMS clusters?  How did they ever > get  > the position they hold?   2    By learning from other self-proclaimed experts.  B    OBTW, you can make a lot of money teaching as a self-proclaimedD    expert if you can get past the initial load of getting someone to    listen to you.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:35:39 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>5 Subject: Re: Suggestion: SET FILE/ATTRIB=FDL=filename + Message-ID: <440CC74B.6AFA47FF@comcast.net>    JF Mezei wrote:  > D > It would be nice to be able to use SET FILE/ATTRIB to set a file's  > attribute based on a template. > G > Since the FDL format exists already, I would thefore suggest that one E > should be able to use SET FILE/ATTRIB and have the command read the G > attributes from an FDL file (and ignore items that are not applicable  > such as allocation). >  > eg:  > ) > ANA/RMS/FDL=template.fdl chocolate.cake  > C > SET FILE chocolate.cake/attr=(rfm:UDF,LRL:32768,RAT=NONE,ORG:IDX)  >  > <play with the file> > / > SET FILE CHOCOLATE.CAKE/attr=FDL=TEMPLATE.FDL  > < > back to the original file with all the orginal attributes.  A Another thought might be to code this up as either an open-source F utility or possibly part of a product for sale, and make it "portable"C all the way back to the earliest VMS supported by the freeware FILE 	 utility.    > Maybe REFILE would be a good name. How about "DFAU": Disk FileC Attributes Utility. Dunno what Ton Dorland is doing these days, but ? maybe a good candidate for expanded functionality in DFU, also.   E I'd add in some informational messages about setting, say, an indexed E file to Fixed-512 (and/or vice-versa), for instance, or other changes ) that may be valid but perhaps unexpected.    Just a suggestion...   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.131 ************************